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For you information sir, the post which you just neg repped me, was to illustrate that anybody can pull something off a blog and say that it relates to a Tea Party movement or whatever. At least the post I posted had something to do with the Tea Party message. But you no doubt missed that. Which doesn't surprise me.
But thanks for the neg rep. I'm sure it was heartfelt.
From Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels' Diary
April 13, 1926
"Hitler was there. Tall healthy and vigorous." "I like him. He puts us to shame with his kindness." "We met. We asked questions. He gave brilliant replies." "I love him."
"The social issue, completely new insights. He has it all thought out." Hitler's ideal: "a mixture of collectivism and individualism. Production must remain a matter for individuals, big corporations, trusts, etc, all to be nationalized. This is what we discuss."
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I'm watching the documentary: The Goebbels Experiment. I got to thinking about the correlations between the Nazi's in Germany and the Conservatives in America.
Before using the Tea Party name, as a name for a movement, took hold in the imagination of the popular right wing nutso-sphere---Dale Robertson was using Tea Party dot org, as a name in September of 2004 (as far as I can tell).
Who is Dale and what why do I and others call him a leader and founder of the Tea Party movement?
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There is no denying Dale was using the name Tea Party, and calling for conservatives to take back the GOP. Dale is a lair, and a propagandist. There is no denying Dale Robertson was involved with starting and helping tom organize Tea Party rallies in Texas, before they got scared with him and his racist ideology. There is no denying the right is distancing themselves from Robertson with deceit and deception as to how he is connected to them. Dale is at Tea Party events in 2009.
In a brief bio on his website, he lies about his military career. According to the website,
Dale served his nation first as a U.S. Marine. After completing his duties with the Corps, he reenlisted into the U.S. Navy and became a U.S. Naval Officer. During his distinguished time of service, Dales Battle Group was first to the scene on 9/11 as well as first to launch an offensive in Afghanistan. He was stationed on the USS Sacramento which was the life blood of the Battle Group. He faithfully served our nation with Honor and Integrity, retiring after 22 years.
But a Freedom of Information Act request by blogger Jonn Lilyea at This Ain't Hell reveals that Robertson was discharged from the U.S. Marine Corps Reserves after serving less than a year. That is quite an embellishment from the record he claims on his website. Robertson's statement is, in fact, riddled with falsehoods.
Read more: STORY RETRACTED | Fake Tea Partier Also a Phony Soldier | NewsBusters.org
I post a few links from the right wing blowhardo-sphere and others.
N-Word Sign Dogs Would-Be Tea Party Leader The Washington Independent
STORY RETRACTED | Fake Tea Partier Also a Phony Soldier | NewsBusters.org
'Warning: Tea Party In Danger': Leader Slams Palin As 'Wolf In Sheep's Clothing' | TPMMuckraker
Tea Partier Tells Mediaite Racist Sign Was Forged; We Have Him On Record Defending Its Use Alan Colmes' Liberaland
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back to the Nazi Party/Tea Party correlations.
Bush was the GOP and conservative pick to lead the nation. What did Bush do in 2008? He all but nationalized the banks as he called for individual responsibilities, etc.
Sound familiar? What did Hitler call for? (see above quote from the diary of Joseph Goebbels)
We have Tea Party people speaking about how they view the nation. How they view fellow citizens as outsiders. We have Tea Party rallies where people speak openly about challenging the will of the Republic (the vote) with armed insurrection.
there's lots more...
I'll be back.
dD
As amusing as the turnabout on incendiary language may be, I can't say that it is particularly accurate.
April 13, 1926
"Hitler was there. Tall healthy and vigorous." "I like him. He puts us to shame with his kindness." "We met. We asked questions. He gave brilliant replies." "I love him."
"The social issue, completely new insights. He has it all thought out." Hitler's ideal: "a mixture of collectivism and individualism. Production must remain a matter for individuals, big corporations, trusts, etc, all to be nationalized. This is what we discuss."
more from Dr. Goebbels' Diary (substitute a few terms 1917/2008---Jews/Democrats or socialists, Cologne/Washington)...
"Then 1917 (2008), and a painfully hungry year we get through it somehow." "Banking and the Stock Exchange, Industry and Market Capital...Jews (Democrats, Scialists, Leftists, Progressives), I reflect on my finacial predicament. Spiritual illumination."
"I am overwhelmed. The Revolution is inside me. But I remain pessimistic about everything. I loathe Cologne (Washington); ...a waste of time. My salary next to nothing, and I can't bear it any more. So I decide to..."
i've had domain names registered since the early 90s. wanna buy one?
how the hell does registering a domain name become part of some nazi conspiracy?
I'll lay it out in simpleton terms for you...
follow the thread.
Tea Party ideals and propaganda/Hitler's ideals and propaganda.
We have Tea Party people speaking about how they view the nation (substitute Nazi for Tea). How they view fellow citizens as outsiders. We have Tea Party (Nazi/Tea) rallies where people speak openly about challenging the will of the Republic (the vote) with armed insurrection.
there's lots more...
Nazi Party/Tea Party correlations.
The Tea Party is a front for a takeover of the government by conservative radicals who are stoking public discontent. Like the Nazis, the GOP conservative radical movement today has been shown to be bankrupt---all about power over nation---and even over ideology, when it comes to keeping power.
Bush was the GOP and conservative pick to lead the nation. What did Bush do in 2008? He all but nationalized the banks as he called for individual responsibilities, etc.
Sound familiar? What did Hitler call for? (see above quote(s) from the diary of Joseph Goebbels)
What kind of socialists were the Nazi leaders when they praise the middle class lifestyle as "engagingly bourgeois"
Actually I'm not seeing any emphasis on 'class' among any of the Tea Party demonstrations. I am seeing a lot of emphasis on personal accountability, individual responsibility, and freedom from oppressive government that interferes with both. I don't think Tea Partiers are concerned with age or race or ethnicity or religion or political affiliation or any kind of social or political class but are rather focused on ideals that transcend all.
It was a Nazi thing to focus on all that other stuff.
So I'm not seeing a correlation there.
Substitute "race or ethnicity" with "leftists, liberals, Democrats, progressives, socialists"
the terms themselves are irrelevant when drawing correlations.
Political affiliation? Hello, Tom Delay was a funder (offering support) as were other prominent GOP officials past and present.
Goebbels spoke of transcendence as did Hitler.
I don't think it's a stretch at all.
Do you ever tire of the 'they did/do it too' arguments/defense of the wingnut set, or tire of the "moral relativism" arguments?I don't think there is any transcendence. I do think Obama and his disciples are fixated on race, partisanship, anyone who would presume to criticize them, class envy, and moving more and more power to government.
That sounds a whole lot more Nazi-ish to me than anything I've heard coming from the Tea Partiers.
And the fact that those who speak at Tea Party events are affiliated with a political party is not an issue. Tea Partiers are made up of Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Greens, Libertarians, and various others or people of no affiliation at all. If you are going to condemn them for not inviting only people with no political affliation to speak, do you hold those on your side to that same standard?
And the fact that those who speak at Tea Party events are affiliated with a political party is not an issue. Tea Partiers are made up of Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Greens, Libertarians, and various others or people of no affiliation at all. If you are going to condemn them for not inviting only people with no political affliation to speak, do you hold those on your side to that same standard?
Do you ever tire of the 'they did/do it too' arguments/defense of the wingnut set, or tire of the "moral relativism" arguments?I don't think there is any transcendence. I do think Obama and his disciples are fixated on race, partisanship, anyone who would presume to criticize them, class envy, and moving more and more power to government.
That sounds a whole lot more Nazi-ish to me than anything I've heard coming from the Tea Partiers.
And the fact that those who speak at Tea Party events are affiliated with a political party is not an issue. Tea Partiers are made up of Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Greens, Libertarians, and various others or people of no affiliation at all. If you are going to condemn them for not inviting only people with no political affliation to speak, do you hold those on your side to that same standard?
Does your conspiracy argument negate the one I make?
If you really think this...how on earth did you ever bring yourself to vote McCain/Palin?
I try not to view the opposition as the enemy?If you really think this...how on earth did you ever bring yourself to vote McCain/Palin?
If you really think this...how on earth did you ever bring yourself to vote McCain/Palin?
Believe me I had to hold my nose. But as bad as they were, Obama/Biden was by far the worse option.
I try not to view the opposition as the enemy?If you really think this...how on earth did you ever bring yourself to vote McCain/Palin?
Because I thought McCain would have made a decent President, decent being the operative word. My principles dictate that we keep one party from ruling both branches of government under most circumstances.
I was a Democrat for Kerry-Healy over Deval Patrick. I campaigned for her as well. Look what Patrick has done to the Massachusetts Democratic Party. The Democrats get most of the blame for things passed with Mitt Romney, because there has been no GOP power in MA. I never did mind saying "I told you so"
Now the GOP is making gains. Then there was the corruption of Democrats on the state level whom I once admired---absolute power corrupts...
Since Obama was untried and inexperienced I figured he would not do as well as Clinton would have, she at least would not have made the same rookie mistakes and I think she would have fought harder for Health Care.
anyway, I left the Democratic party in MA. to the Progressives with their intolerance and small mindedness.
I didn't so much vote for McCain as I voted to have two parties share the power and blame and credit for what was on the horizon. seems I can say "I told you so" here too.
I suppose. But it is surprising that you couldn't see McCain's choice of Palin for what it was. And she is the leader of the tea party, no matter how much the "independents" claim otherwise.
I laid out the correlations I see between the Nazi Party and the Tea Party. You say there is no correlation, yet you do not refute ones I drew upon. You make a statement as a refutation with no claims to back it up? There is a name for that.I don't have a conspiracy argument nor did I make one. I commented on my observations about what the Nazis were all about and what I know the Tea Partiers are all about.
There is no correlation between the Tea Partiers and Nazi-ism. The only thing they have in common is that crowds gather to promote the ideals of each. The ideals themselves are very different.
So what I am negating is that your whole supposition is that the Tea Partiers are like the Nazi movement is flawed from the get go. And yeah, you'll probably neg rep me for saying that too.
Main Entry: correlation
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: equating, equivalence
Synonyms: alternation, analogue, complement, correspondence, correspondent, counterpart, interaction, interchange, interconnection, interdependence, interrelation, interrelationship, match, parallel, pendant, reciprocity, relationship
One lunatic fringe (the uber-Christians) to another (the uber-Patriots).
The GOP never really changes.
calling the opposition homos and Bolsheviks? sound familiar?October 26, 1928. I have no friends and no wife. I seem to be going through a major spiritual crisis. I still have the same old problems with my foot, which gives me incessant pain and discomfort. And then there are the rumors, to the effect that I am homosexual.
