Swine Flu Internment Camp Documents Revealed: Refuse quarantine? It's off to camp FEM

the bills have been written..




It's a medical RECOMMENDATION not a legal mandate. :rolleyes:



Use of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine


Flu Facts: What You Need to Know


And there are preparations in place for pandemic flu.


SECTION 10
- LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR PANDEMIC INFLUENZA -
The Legal Considerations Section includes the following subsections:
• Legal Issues
Describes substantive legal issues that are likely to arise in a pandemic and how they are being addressed.
• Legal Resources
Lists available legal resources and indicates where they may be found. These include model documents such as legal orders that the Commissioner might issue; background documents on websites; etc.
• Partnerships and Outreach
Describes committees and advisory groups that have legal components and/or are addressing legal issues.
• Training
Describes past, current and future training programs on legal issues.
• Other Agencies
Lists legal issues that are the responsibility of other state agencies.
• Miscellaneous
Addresses additional minor legal issues.
LEGAL ISSUES
1. Emergency Declarations
There are two statutes in Massachusetts that allow the Governor to declare an emergency.
Public Health Emergency. Under M.G.L. c. 17, § 2A, if the Governor declares that an emergency exists which is detrimental to the public health, the DPH Commissioner may, with the approval of the Governor and the Public Health Council, “take such action and incur such liabilities as he may deem necessary to assure the maintenance of public health and the prevention of disease.” In addition, with the approval of the Public Health Council, the Commissioner may “establish procedures to be followed during such emergency to insure the continuation of essential public health services and the enforcement of the same.”
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Pandemic Period: The Commissioner and senior DPH staff will be in continuous close touch with the Governor’s office. If the Commissioner determines that the situation warrants a declaration of public health emergency based on epidemiological information, speed of disease spread, etc., he would request that the Governor issue such a declaration. Once the declaration is made, the Commissioner would have all necessary authority to issue orders; waive statutes and regulations that impede emergency response; seize property if necessary, etc.

State of Emergency. Under Chapter 639 of the Acts of 1950, the Governor may declare a state of emergency due to (among other circumstances) “the occurrence of any disaster or catastrophe resulting from attack, sabotage or other hostile action; or from riot or other civil disturbance; or from fire, flood, earthquake or other natural causes.” Because an influenza pandemic can be considered a catastrophe resulting from natural causes, the Governor might decide to declare a state of emergency concurrent with declaring a public health emergency, or without declaring a public health emergency.
By the terms of the statute, a state of emergency confers upon the Governor extraordinary powers to protect the lives and property of the citizens of the Commonwealth and to enforce the laws. In practice, if a state of emergency were declared during a pandemic, MEMA would activate the State Emergency Operations Center and DPH would be a crucial participant in emergency response under ESF-8. It is expected that the Governor would delegate broad health-related powers to the DPH Commissioner, with the result that there would be little if any practical difference between a declared public health emergency and a declared state of emergency.
DPH legal counsel are familiar with the powers available under both types of emergency declarations, and would advise policy makers on appropriate legal means to achieve policy goals.
2. Restrictions on Personal Liberty
Isolation and Quarantine. Legal preparations have been and are continuing to be made to isolate or quarantine individuals or groups of people, should DPH policy makers decide that such measures are necessary to protect the public health during the Pandemic Alert Period and/or the Pandemic Period.
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Massachusetts statutes and regulations authorize isolation and quarantine for diseases dangerous to the public health.
Legal materials for isolation and quarantine of individuals, originally developed for SARS, have been modified for pandemic flu. These are complied into a set of documents known as “Legal Nuts and Bolts of Isolation and Quarantine,” available from the DPH Office of General Counsel and the Health Education Unit, Division of Epidemiology and Immunization. They include documents that state and local health authorities would use for stepwise enforcement of isolation and quarantine, beginning with letters requesting voluntary cooperation, up to court pleadings and related documents to compel isolation.
Due process protections have been considered in drafting these documents, guided by the principle that whatever measure is used should be the least restrictive of personal liberty while protecting public health. Non-custodial orders (e.g. home isolation) may be appealed by a telephone call to a health official, while custodial measures (e.g. isolation in a hospital) would in most cases require a court order. Efforts will be made to ensure that people who are subject to court proceedings for mandatory isolation or quarantine have access to attorneys. Judges may be contacted at any time, day or night, through the State Police.
Other Restrictions on Personal Liberty. It is possible that a wide variety of other measures might become necessary to protect the public health during a Pandemic Alert Period or Pandemic Period, some of which impose certain restrictions on personal liberty. Examples include requiring people to self-monitor for medical conditions; requiring medical evaluations and/or vaccinations, prophylaxis, or medical treatment; closing businesses, public transportation; etc.
Templates have been drafted for orders that the DPH Commissioner could issue during a public health emergency, and additional templates are in process. The templates include findings or statements that the measures being ordered are the least restrictive alternative or the most reasonable way to address the threat to public health.
Influenza Pandemic Preparedness Plan





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LEGAL RESOURCES
1. Model Documents
During the Pandemic Period and possibly during the Pandemic Alert Period, it may become necessary for the Commissioner to issue various orders to protect the public health. Various templates for such orders have been drafted, which are located in the DPH Office of General Counsel.
2. Documents for Isolation and Quarantine
The “Legal Nuts and Bolts of Isolation and Quarantine” package includes model health letters, health orders, court pleadings, and related documents. It is available from the DPH Office of General Counsel and the Health Education Unit, Division of Epidemiology and Immunization.
3. Other Legal Information
A summary document and PowerPoint presentation dealing with liability protections for Massachusetts health care volunteers responding to a disaster may be found at Emergency Preparedness - Health and Human Services
Additional legal resources and tools include:
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Draft Model State Emergency Health Powers Act www.publichealthlaw.net/MSEHPA/MSEHPA2.pdf
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Emergency Management Assistance Compact as adopted in Massachusetts CHAPTER 339 OF THE ACTS OF 2000 MA INFLUENZA PANDEMIC PREPAREDNESS PLAN October 2006
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International Emergency Management Assistance Memorandum of Understanding as adopted in Massachusetts
CHAPTER 300 OF THE ACTS OF 2002 (See section 58)
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Model Memorandum of Understanding for Establishment of Local Public Health Mutual Aid and Assistance System www.publichealthlaw.net/Resources/ResourcesPDFs/MOU.pdf
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American Bar Association Draft Checklist for State and Local Government Attorneys to Prepare for Possible Disasters Welcome to the Center for Law and the Public's Health
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CDC: Legal Authorities for Isolation and Quarantine (links to information on federal authority for isolation and quarantine) CDC | Legal Authorities for Isolation and Quarantine
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Quarantine and Isolation: Lessons Learned from SARS (A report to CDC) http://www.louisville.edu/medschool/ibhpl/images/pdf/SARS REPORT.pdf
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Checklists on Legal Preparedness for Bioterrorism and other Public Health Emergencies (from the Center for Law and the Public’s Health at Georgetown and Johns Hopkins Universities) Welcome to the Center for Law and the Public's Health
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Legal Materials Related to Public Health Legal Preparedness from CDC’s Public Health Law Program Public Health Legal Response and Preparedness - CDC
Additional materials and resources may be posted at Public Health Law
 
so, what do you think are her reasons for avoiding the flu vaccine?

i mean, you can try to defend her all you want, but she's just gonna come here and prove me right and claim people in the US die from the flu vaccine all the time. :lol:
 
Ass-achusetts voted on a law that was passed a few months ago. It's called get the flu shot or we come into your house and give it to you!!!!! Look it up obamaloonies!!!! Deval patrick gov of mass is obama's butt buddy!! He follows hussein's advice on everything!! First liberal loonie state to order people to get the swineflu shot!!!! Ass-achusetts sucks!!!!!!!!! Can't wait to get out!!!!!!!

You can't be a real poster - you must be a joke.

No one uses that many exclamation points and is a serious poster.

Of course they can. Why we have one guy who likes to post single sentences like paragraphs and randomly capitalizes words and he is a serious.........wait, scratch that. Nevermind.
 
come on, not even Beck is touching this one
that should tell you SOMETHING

There are only so many on the air hours in a day and he has to pick and chose which crazy, off the wall, sensational conspiracy theory he is going to promote on any given day. :lol:
is it an insane conspiracy theory if he turns out to be right?

Hmmmmmmm? Noooooo........but so far his track record isn't looking so good.
 
There are only so many on the air hours in a day and he has to pick and chose which crazy, off the wall, sensational conspiracy theory he is going to promote on any given day. :lol:
is it an insane conspiracy theory if he turns out to be right?

Hmmmmmmm? Noooooo........but so far his track record isn't looking so good.
he's got a few things right
at least based on some of the liberals whines on here
 
so, what do you think are her reasons for avoiding the flu vaccine?

i mean, you can try to defend her all you want, but she's just gonna come here and prove me right and claim people in the US die from the flu vaccine all the time. :lol:
she stated her reasons
drug interactions
 
which is taking what she said WAY out of context

Actually no, it's not. We're talking about the benefits of getting flu shots and she states "anything you inject straight into the blood stream has a higher risk of killing you. Vaccines can kill you as well". Not only did she think you inject a flu shot into the blood (again, you need to put this IN context of the discussion), but claimed it can kill you. When I pointed this out in subsequent posts in relation to the flu shot, she didn't even bother to clarify, refute, or otherwise correct her original inaccuracies.
and some people have died from vaccines
nothing she said was as extreme as you are claiming

Yes, it was, dive.
 
Actually no, it's not. We're talking about the benefits of getting flu shots and she states "anything you inject straight into the blood stream has a higher risk of killing you. Vaccines can kill you as well". Not only did she think you inject a flu shot into the blood (again, you need to put this IN context of the discussion), but claimed it can kill you. When I pointed this out in subsequent posts in relation to the flu shot, she didn't even bother to clarify, refute, or otherwise correct her original inaccuracies.
and some people have died from vaccines
nothing she said was as extreme as you are claiming

Yes, it was, dive.
no it wasnt, moron
 
it's cute that you're defending her, but she pretty thoroughly made a fool of herself in that thread by claiming
1) flu shots are given in your bloodstream
2) the FDA doesn't test drugs
3) the risks of getting a flu shot are larger than the benefits
4) most people should not get flu shots
5) we have no clue what is in a flu shot

you can keep defending her if you like tho - puppy love is always cute. :)
 
it's cute that you're defending her, but she pretty thoroughly made a fool of herself in that thread by claiming
1) flu shots are given in your bloodstream
2) the FDA doesn't test drugs
3) the risks of getting a flu shot are larger than the benefits
4) most people should not get flu shots
5) we have no clue what is in a flu shot

you can keep defending her if you like tho - puppy love is always cute. :)
and you are taking what she said WAY out of context
 
1) Not even in the US
2) Still not from flu shots

Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America


By Jo Macfarlane
Last updated at 11:05 PM on 15th August 2009



A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter.
The letter from the Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, has been leaked to The Mail on Sunday, leading to demands to know why the information has not been given to the public before the vaccination of millions of people, including children, begins.

It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the vaccine.
GBS attacks the lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal.

The letter, sent to about 600 neurologists on July 29, is the first sign that there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself could cause serious complications.
It refers to the use of a similar swine flu vaccine in the United States in 1976 when:

More people died from the vaccination than from swine flu.
500 cases of GBS were detected.
The vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times.
The vaccine was withdrawn after just ten weeks when the link with GBS became clear.
The US Government was forced to pay out millions of dollars to those affected.
Concerns have already been raised that the new vaccine has not been sufficiently tested and that the effects, especially on children, .


Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America | Mail Online
 
Ass-achusetts voted on a law that was passed a few months ago. It's called get the flu shot or we come into your house and give it to you!!!!! Look it up obamaloonies!!!! Deval patrick gov of mass is obama's butt buddy!! He follows hussein's advice on everything!! First liberal loonie state to order people to get the swineflu shot!!!! Ass-achusetts sucks!!!!!!!!! Can't wait to get out!!!!!!!

I'll bet they would pay you to leave.
 
1) Not even in the US
2) Still not from flu shots

There is no denying that this flu is highly contageous. People will not only feel too ill to go to work but they will be required to stay home by their employers (at least mine has already said so). For those people who have no benefits and are paid by the hour, losing an entire week's pay could be devastating, so there WILL be many people who will go to work anyway, thereby exposing others to it. Even if it isn't a killer, just the possibility of loss of production on a huge scale would be highly detrimental to an already shaky economy.

Any failsafe programs that the government puts in place should be embraced, not criticized, and even if that means some method of quartantine, so be it.

We should not even be having this debate.
 
They would first have to declare several differnt things before they could enforce any thing and if they quarantine you, if you refuse to remain so they legally can take action to prevent you from spreading a known contagious disease.

Nothing new with that at all.

Ding ding ding.
 
1) Not even in the US
2) Still not from flu shots

There is no denying that this flu is highly contageous. People will not only feel too ill to go to work but they will be required to stay home by their employers (at least mine has already said so). For those people who have no benefits and are paid by the hour, losing an entire week's pay could be devastating, so there WILL be many people who will go to work anyway, thereby exposing others to it. Even if it isn't a killer, just the possibility of loss of production on a huge scale would be highly detrimental to an already shaky economy.

Any failsafe programs that the government puts in place should be embraced, not criticized, and even if that means some method of quartantine, so be it.

We should not even be having this debate.

GOD ..I hope this is satire...you cant be for real
 
1) Not even in the US
2) Still not from flu shots

There is no denying that this flu is highly contageous. People will not only feel too ill to go to work but they will be required to stay home by their employers (at least mine has already said so). For those people who have no benefits and are paid by the hour, losing an entire week's pay could be devastating, so there WILL be many people who will go to work anyway, thereby exposing others to it. Even if it isn't a killer, just the possibility of loss of production on a huge scale would be highly detrimental to an already shaky economy.

Any failsafe programs that the government puts in place should be embraced, not criticized, and even if that means some method of quartantine, so be it.

We should not even be having this debate.

GOD ..I hope this is satire...you cant be for real
does your mind even have the ability to grasp a "worst case scenario"?
 
it's cute that you're defending her, but she pretty thoroughly made a fool of herself in that thread by claiming
1) flu shots are given in your bloodstream
2) the FDA doesn't test drugs
3) the risks of getting a flu shot are larger than the benefits
4) most people should not get flu shots
5) we have no clue what is in a flu shot

you can keep defending her if you like tho - puppy love is always cute. :)
and you are taking what she said WAY out of context
No. no it's not. I can quote where she claimed all of those things. She said the FDA does not test drugs. Flat out. How does anyone take that out of context? She flat out said we have no clue what is in a flu shot. Again: how do you take that out of context?

Please, don't try to defend her ignorance.

That was OVER THREE DECADES ago. Medicine has... ya know.... improved just a wee bit. In fact, we've more than doubled the amount of time we've researched the influenza virus since it was first discovered compared to that incident.

Again, I encourage you to find a death that resulted from a flu shot in the US in the past decade.
 
it's cute that you're defending her, but she pretty thoroughly made a fool of herself in that thread by claiming
1) flu shots are given in your bloodstream
2) the FDA doesn't test drugs
3) the risks of getting a flu shot are larger than the benefits
4) most people should not get flu shots
5) we have no clue what is in a flu shot

you can keep defending her if you like tho - puppy love is always cute. :)
and you are taking what she said WAY out of context
No. no it's not. I can quote where she claimed all of those things. She said the FDA does not test drugs. Flat out. How does anyone take that out of context? She flat out said we have no clue what is in a flu shot. Again: how do you take that out of context?

Please, don't try to defend her ignorance.

That was OVER THREE DECADES ago. Medicine has... ya know.... improved just a wee bit. In fact, we've more than doubled the amount of time we've researched the influenza virus since it was first discovered compared to that incident.

Again, I encourage you to find a death that resulted from a flu shot in the US in the past decade.

this is an experimental drug ...that is just about to be unleashed on a mass scale starting with pregnant woman and children
 

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