SURPRISE!!...better be sitting down...Iran backs out of "Framework" "Deal"

[Nutz]

What are we going to do? Go to war??? Get another 10,000, 50,000 or 100,000 American soliders killed and another 5 trillion more spent on nation building.

Let's not and lets spend it on ourselves!!! Lets spend it on infrastructure, science, r&d and education! War is dumb!

100,000 soldiers, vs 10 million civilians. Which is smaller?

So you want 100,000 soldiers to die because we have a black President. WTF is the matter with you. Iran has been 6 months away from bulding a nuclear weapon for the last 2 decades...did you want to kill off 100K American troops then?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

On the other hand, Iran says that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only, so the country's nuclear facilities might not be covered by the statement byAyatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Iran was going to nuke Detroit or Baltimore but they said, Fuck it, the Democrats already wiped those targets out

 

[BlindBoo]

...and just like so many said here, and were berated by Obama followers for saying so - Iran's Ayahtolla states he will not support any deal that includes UN inspections of nuke sites....which means of course he will support no deal at all.

Shocked, shocked I say!!!

Iran s leader says no to military inspections - CNN.com

Iran s leader rejects foreign access to military sites scientists Fox News

Did you actually read your own link?

(CNN)Iran's Supreme Leader has said the country will not allow any inspections of its military facilities, the official state news agency reported Wednesday.

On the other hand, Iran says that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only, so the country's nuclear facilities might not be covered by the statement by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader.​

Not allowing UN inspectors on military bases has nothing at all to do with inspecting nuclear plants.

Once again the rabid right grasps at straws!

It's the eye-yah-told-ya giving some red meat to his rabid followers much like Boss Limbaugh feeds his ditto-heads. They wont know the difference.

 

[Claudette]

I'm not at all surprised. After all Iran never abides by any agreements it makes.

It gets sanctions lifted and goes right on doing what it wants to do with it Nuclear program.

Too bad Obama and Kerry weren't up on the history of Iran and Agreements. Bet those two jackasses are still congratulating themselves about how great they are to be able to get that agreement.

Idiots.

 

[BlindBoo]

On the other hand, Iran says that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only, so the country's nuclear facilities might not be covered by the statement byAyatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader.

You do realize that was a quote from the link you posted, right?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

It's the eye-yah-told-ya giving some red meat to his rabid followers much like Boss Limbaugh feed his ditto-heads. They wont know the difference.

Uh - no...it's not.
Rush Limbaugh is a fathead radio commentator.
The Ayatollah is the supreme leader who can, and often does, give the final say on anything whatsoever.
Pretty huge difference.

 

[westwall]

What are we going to do? Go to war??? Get another 10,000, 50,000 or 100,000 American soliders killed and another 5 trillion more spent on nation building.

Let's not and lets spend it on ourselves!!! Lets spend it on infrastructure, science, r&d and education! War is dumb!

100,000 soldiers, vs 10 million civilians. Which is smaller?

So you want 100,000 soldiers to die because we have a black President. WTF is the matter with you. Iran has been 6 months away from bulding a nuclear weapon for the last 2 decades...did you want to kill off 100K American troops then?

Nope. I don't want any of our soldiers to die. We have plenty of friends over there who can do a bang up job if we would only let them.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

On the other hand, Iran says that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only, so the country's nuclear facilities might not be covered by the statement byAyatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader.

You do realize that was a quote from the link you posted, right?

Yes I do, but anyone who knows even the slightest information about their program knows that part of the problem is they hide military grade in standard facilities. That is what everything is about. Everytime someone has accused a site of pursuing military grade material - they simply say it is only a power station.

Good God.

 

[BlindBoo]

It's the eye-yah-told-ya giving some red meat to his rabid followers much like Boss Limbaugh feed his ditto-heads. They wont know the difference.

Uh - no...it's not.
Rush Limbaugh is a fathead radio commentator.
The Ayatollah is the supreme leader who can, and often does, give the final say on anything whatsoever.
Pretty huge difference.

Propaganda is propaganda.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

If anyone ever needed proof that liberals are stupid, all they need to do is read this thread.

I can't argue with that. I don't normally call people stupid, but Jesus...they are really grasping for straws here.

 

[Coyote]

What are we going to do? Go to war??? Get another 10,000, 50,000 or 100,000 American soliders killed and another 5 trillion more spent on nation building.

Let's not and lets spend it on ourselves!!! Lets spend it on infrastructure, science, r&d and education! War is dumb!

Seems to me the OP is a strawman.

 

[The Rabbi]

The only surprise is that anyone is surprised. This was a foregone conclusion. To recap: Obama is desperate to get an agreement of any kind. He will let the Iranians do, say, and get away with anything in order to trumpet his "success." Never mind that any agreement is a sham. Never mind the Iranians have zero intention of following through on it. Obama is getting played big time. And that's the most charitable explanation.

 

[The Rabbi]

What are we going to do? Go to war??? Get another 10,000, 50,000 or 100,000 American soliders killed and another 5 trillion more spent on nation building.

Let's not and lets spend it on ourselves!!! Lets spend it on infrastructure, science, r&d and education! War is dumb!

Seems to me the OP is a strawman.

YOu ought to review what the term "strawman" means.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

What are we going to do? Go to war??? Get another 10,000, 50,000 or 100,000 American soliders killed and another 5 trillion more spent on nation building.

Let's not and lets spend it on ourselves!!! Lets spend it on infrastructure, science, r&d and education! War is dumb!

Seems to me the OP is a strawman.

Explain, specifically. How could one provide a strawman argument, before there was an argument??

 

[rightwinger]

Obama offered continued sanctions or this deal

Iran chose continued sanctions

Their loss not ours

 

[Misty]

...and just like so many said here, and were berated by Obama followers for saying so - Iran's Ayahtolla states he will not support any deal that includes UN inspections of nuke sites....which means of course he will support no deal at all.

Shocked, shocked I say!!!

Iran s leader says no to military inspections - CNN.com

Iran s leader rejects foreign access to military sites scientists Fox News

Did you actually read your own link?

(CNN)Iran's Supreme Leader has said the country will not allow any inspections of its military facilities, the official state news agency reported Wednesday.

On the other hand, Iran says that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only, so the country's nuclear facilities might not be covered by the statement by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader.​

Not allowing UN inspectors on military bases has nothing at all to do with inspecting nuclear plants.

Once again the rabid right grasps at straws!

Unless the military facilities are where they are creating nuclear weapons.

 

[Coyote]

What are we going to do? Go to war??? Get another 10,000, 50,000 or 100,000 American soliders killed and another 5 trillion more spent on nation building.

Let's not and lets spend it on ourselves!!! Lets spend it on infrastructure, science, r&d and education! War is dumb!

Seems to me the OP is a strawman.

Explain, specifically. How could one provide a strawman argument, before there was an argument??

Good point, I stand corrected. It's simply dishonest.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The only surprise is that anyone is surprised. This was a foregone conclusion. To recap: Obama is desperate to get an agreement of any kind. He will let the Iranians do, say, and get away with anything in order to trumpet his "success." Never mind that any agreement is a sham. Never mind the Iranians have zero intention of following through on it. Obama is getting played big time. And that's the most charitable explanation.

But Obama is not getting played.
He is the player. Playing, quite easily, right into his supporters hands.
First, simply sitting at a table with Iran expecting anything other than parlor tricks and smoke and mirrors is complete folly.
Secondly, he never really cared if there was a deal. All he cared about was the appearance of a deal because that is all it takes to satisfy liberals - just the notion of something, you don't actually have to do it.

 

[Kosh]

Obama offered continued sanctions or this deal

Iran chose continued sanctions

Their loss not ours

So did Arafat, but the far left still honored him with a Nobel peace prize..