Discussion in 'Middle East - General' started by Adam's Apple, Dec 5, 2005.
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Once again, there's no media conspiracy to undermine President Bush's "noble" war effort.
Haven't you ever considered the possibility that media reports from and about Iraq are negative because negative things are happening there?
Reporters aren't making this stuff up you know. Tom Lasseter, who is an Iraq war correspondent for the NYT came to speak in my ethics class a few weeks ago. He refused to give his opinion on the politics of the war, but from what he said, Iraq is about as close to hell as you can get.
You need to be posting political cartoons making fun of war supporters for looking at the world through rose-colored glasses, not berating the media for doing their jobs.
Actually the bulk of what they dont report is the problem. They paint a negative picture due to their LACK of reporting. Take this for example.
You'd do yourself some good if you actually cared about what the military and iraqis think as opposed to what the media feeds you. Then maybe you could form an honest opinion. If you still come up with the same conclusion that this war is completely wrong, then at least its an opinion formed knowing all the facts and not just the side someone wants you to hear.
I am sure Dan Rather and the reporters who have been caught making things up at the New York Times totally agree with you.
Now what you need to do is have your professor invite Senator Joe Lieberman to come address your class. He's made four trips to Iraq at different periods of time, and he has quite a different viewpoint on how things are going. It's true that Iraq is a dangerous place; afterall, there's a war going on there--or "hell" as you call it--but progress is being made, and Iraqis are a lot better off today than they were under Saddam's regime.
The sad fact is that the MSM picks and chooses what they want to report on Iraq, and we get only the picture they want us to have. How is that any different from making things up?
I personally would not believe too much having to do with politics that is printed in the NYT. The newspaper has lost all objectivity in that area. There's a good reason there are two or three different organizations in existence for the sole purpose of trying to keep the Times' reporting honest.
there is no such thing as a liberal bias in the media....
there is no terrorist threat....
there were no communists in high levels of government during the FDR and Truman years....
and there is no Mafia, either!!!!!!
P.S. as much as I disagree with Senator Joe Lieberman on some issues, I admire and respect him for his position on the Iraq war. There's a liberal who isn't afraid to break ranks with the DNC... and, as an Orthodox Jew, he observes his religion faithfully.... if only there were more liberals like him!
Have you ever considered alot of positive things are happening there.?
Of course its not a conspiracy, they didnt have to PLAN anything, its just happening.
Its really quite hilarious how the MSM anti war reporters continuously defend their actions by claiming, "we need to present a well rounded view of what is going on and make sure everything is reported no matter how ugly or unpopular"
Yet it is these same liars who refuse to print the positive things that are going on.
FACT is the elections and new Constitution of Iraq deserve as much celebration and is as newsworthy as the symbolic tearing down of the Berlin wall. Yet on the days of these occasions, often papers did not lead with these stories, instead insisting on continuing their five part story on the new fad of pink sweaters for pit bulls.
Some will argue the constitution and elections in Iraq are meaningless, but I would remind you that the actual tearing down of the Berlin wall was also meaningless, it was PURELY symbolic. It wasnt the wall that prevented Germans from crossing, it was the barbed wire, the closed gates, the bullets that would tear into Germans who tried to cross, the guards, the guns, the POLICY of the communists...their desire for power and control, and not allow liberation of children, women and peace loving men.
so it is with Iraq, the constitution, which in time may prove to be a much more formidable weapon for democracy than the Berlin wall was ever for communism, it also is a light in a darkened cavern, a way out for millions, a torch that shines the light on the evil of the terrorists, it is humanity in its highest form
and for the mass media of the west to basically ignore it is liberalism at its lowest, darkest hour. It exposes liberalism to its true god, themselves, their desire for power, their hatred of many things that are good, noble and virtuous, their own egos, NOT the liberation of women, children and peace loving men,(hmmm, sounds alot like the description of the communists) peace on earth and good will to men, not for those things that the one true GOD wishes upon us all. PEACE AND FREEDOM.
(they really need one of those smilies that shows the author of a post getting off his or her soapbox ) insert here!
funny, witty, clever,,,, but most importantly, unlike the funny, witty, and clever stuff that comes from the left, ITS TRUE!
Yeah, out of the thousands of professional journalists around the globe, the three or four that were caught being unethical last year are totally representative of the MSM as a whole. I guess you'd agree that because some doctors commit malpractice, some policemen are corrupt and some business men are unethical, doctors, police and businessmen can't be trusted either. Hell, under your logic, nobody can be trusted because there are criminals in every profession!
Look, everybody's happy that the water is running in some places in Iraq and that a soldier handed a teddy bear to an Iraqi child and that the Kurds and Shiites and some Sunnis agreed on a tentative constitution. That's all well and good and those stories do get reported on--but none of those things overshadow the reality that people are still being blown into smitherines and that the Sunni insurgency shows no signs of weakening and that the majority of Sunnis either did not vote on or voted against the Constitution and that people are being tortured daily.
Like you said, it's a warzone. There are atrocities being committed on both sides everyday. It's the journalists' job to report what is happening so that we can make informed decisions. You can't just listen to what the President says--like all politicians, he's got an agenda--he doesn't want us to hear bad news about his policies. Take your head out of the sand and pay attention to what the reporters are reporting to you. It's their job to report to you what is going on. Ever heard the old saying, "don't kill the messenger"? Reports from Iraq are negative for a reason. Negative events are occurring daily. Sugar coating it doesn't make it not so.
If Iraq is such a wonderful, progressive place full of business opportunities and budding freedom, ask yourself why nobody wants to go there.
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