Student Suspended For Sexual Harrassment - Wearing A Costume To Another School's Prom

[insein]

wonderful insight as to my physic...have a nice night!

Physic? Did you mean physique as in your physical build of your body or perhaps you meant physics in that your a physics teacher and she was commenting on your teaching skill? :alco:

IMO, i think you meant to type psyche as in your mental makeup but it was fun thinking up those other things.

 

[archangel]

Physic? Did you mean physique as in your physical build of your body or perhaps you meant physics in that your a physics teacher and she was commenting on your teaching skill? :alco:

IMO, i think you meant to type psyche as in your mental makeup but it was fun thinking up those other things.

have a nice night too!

 

[dilloduck]

Boy are you in left field, glad I don’t live in a village. I think maybe you should ask yourself about that fantasy world, Dillo.

This is where it all falls apart for you Mr. P. You are dependent on others in the world for you to keep up your life style and survive. I know you can't stand it but it's the truth.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Originally Posted by ScreamingEagle
This is the difference between a conservative and a libertarian:

you guys think we should live in a pigsty.

Nahhhh…it’s more like a pasture. Some parts have nice lush green grass and other parts have poop. Ya just gotta learn where to step. Just don't tell me where to step, and I won't tell you. Simple, it really is, I think we call it Freedom.
There’s a place for everyone.

Mr. P, have you ever tried to run through a field full of cow patties? Some Freedom.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Quit going to "R" rated movies, invest in a CD player so you can decide what music comes out of your speakers, use the V-chip in your TV, home school your kids, and don't go into the porn shops...take responsibility for what you and your family are exposed to and quit trying to remove my right of choice in matters of entertainment. I also hear that they have whole communities in PA that you might feel more comfortable with...you might try moving.

Obviously you don't mind living in a pigsty.
You just think the rest of us should put on waders and blinders.
If you don't think porn hurts people, read this:

The following is from Dr. James Dobson, noted Christian psychologist and author and member of the Pornography Commission: But why should criminal laws against pornography be enforced? Why should government object if some people want to amuse themselves with explicit materials? Is obscenity really a threat to society and to the individuals within it? You will hear those questions posed by television and newspaper reporters who clearly resent the work of our Commission. Let me respond for the record. Throughout this past year we have heard testimony from police officers, social scientists and concerned parents. Many of these witnesses have described the multiple harms associated with sexually explicit material. Let me list just a few of the pervasive dangers emerging from the evidence:

1. Depictions of violence against women are related to violence against women everywhere. The most cursory examination of the material being marketed today makes it clear why that is true. I could not describe the offensiveness of these publications without being pornographic even in this context. Violent pornography also contributes to the so-called "rape-myth," leading men to believe that women really want to be abused even when they vigorously deny it.

2. The use of pornography seems to be addictive and progressive in nature. That is, those who get hooked on sexually explicit material tend to become obsessed by their need. It also interferes with the normal sexual relationship between husbands and wives.

3. The river of obscenity which floods our homes has reached the eyes and ears of children! Boys and girls are finding and viewing their parents’ X-rated videos and magazines. They are also being bombarded by vile lyrics in rock music on radio, television and videos. Their morals are being corrupted by R-rated movies which dangerously link sex and violence. They are being shocked and titillated by obscenity on dial-a-porn phone lines. And on and on it goes. As a direct consequence, psychotherapists are seeking increasing numbers of disturbed young patients who may never enjoy healthy attitudes about sex.

4. Pornography is degrading and humiliating to women. They are shown being beaten, handed from trees, smeared with feces, urinated upon, and or course, deprived of dignity and modesty. Men and boys are the purchasers of this material, using it primarily for masturbatory purposes. The entire female gender has reason to feel used and abused by this industry.

5. Pornography is often used by pedophiles it softens children’s defenses against sexual exploitation. They are shown nude pictures of adults, for example, and told, "See, this is what mommies and daddies do." They are then stripped of innocence and subjected to brutalities that will be remembered for a lifetime.

6. Outlets for obscenity are magnets for sex-related crimes. When an adult bookstore moves into a neighborhood, an array of "support services" typically develops around it. Prostitution, narcotics and street crime proliferate. Ask anyone who lives near a sex shop. You hear an immediate protest.

7. So-called adult bookstores often become cesspools of disease and homosexual activity. The tiny video booths in these shops are used for private sexual behavior and become filthy beyond imagination. Holes in the walls between booths are provided for anonymous sexual encounters between adult males, etc. In this day of concern over AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases, it is difficult to understand why local health departments have refused to close down these foul businesses.

8. Finally, pornography is damaging to the family in countless ways. We are sexual creatures, and the physical attraction between males and females provides the basis for every dimension of marriage and parenthood. Thus, anything that interjects itself into that relationship must be embraced with great caution. Until we know that pornography is not addictive and progressive, until we are certain that the passion of fantasy does not destroy the passion of reality, until we are sure that obsessive use of obscene materials will not lead to perversion and conflict between husbands and wives, then we dare not adorn them with the crown of respectability. Society has an absolute obligation to protect itself from material that crosses the line established objectively by its legislature and court system. That is not sexual repression; that is self-preservation.

http://www.baptistpillar.com/bd0404.htm

 

[ScreamingEagle]

First of all, the people who cry about christmas and other christian things are the same as those that are christian and cry about pornographic things. they are a very small minority of people trying to control other people's lives.

Porn is something that i dare say 75% of ALL adults use whether they admit it or not. My parents are avid catholics. Goto church every weekend. Sent me and my sister to catholic school. Still they had pornographic material in the house. They simply TRIED to hide it from their kids (which obviously i found anyway when i was young as most normal adolescent boys do). Does that make them horrific people? Does it make anyone who looks at porn wrong and those that dont righteous?

So then we must eliminate every bad influence in the world because no kid throughout the history of this country or time has had to deal with bad influences in their lifetime. Come on, dillo. They are bad things out there. To shield your kids in a bubble and pretend that they dont exist is not only naive but its dangerous to the kid. As a parent its not your job to protect a child from every danger that comes along. Its your job to prepare them to protect themselves.

It is for everyone including me. If i want to do everything within the letter of the law to look at porn, have sex with legal, consenting adults, watch violent movies, smoke a big fucking cigar and waltz around my house naked then god damn it its my right to do so. Its your right to complain about it. Its your right to turn your head and look away. Its NOT yours or anyone elses right to make a law telling me how to live my life.

If we end up in a society where everyone has to live a certain way according to a small minority of the offended, well then we get the road we're already on. Atheists want us to eliminate god from anything government and school. Religious fanatics want us to eliminate anything pornographic from adult media in case children might get their hands on it. Everyone loves to tell other people what to do. Worry about your own lives and stop trying to tell other people what to do.

For a normally smart guy you've said a lot of "insein" stuff in this thread but this post takes the cake. It's not society's right to tell you how to live your life? Are you kidding? There are rules how you are supposed to act ALL OVER the place. How to drive, not to drink and drive, how to put on a license on your car, how to pay for your tabs, how to wear a seatbelt, how to not engage in road rage, how to keep your radio and muffler at acceptable levels, how not to use your cell phone, how to cross the street, and on and on and those are just some road rules...there are thousands and thousands and thousands of other rules for all phases of our stupid little lives....and you think you have some prima donna special right to promote smut for some reason? (look at the post right before this one for the reasons not to)

I'll tell you why you think you do. Because the ACLU is pushing for it and you like so many others have fallen for their "free speech" spiel. Pornography is one of their "causes" that they have been working on for decades. Many have been suckered into their twisted way of thinking and you don't realize their end game. (btw they are also the ones attempting to ban Christmas for fear of offending some people - weird, huh?)

Then you claim 75% of people use porn as if that justifies things. Many today are exposed to it because it is not restricted like it used to be - because of pushers like the ACLU and the porn industry. You say your family used to have it in the house when you were a kid. The difference between today and when your family members had it was they had the decency back then to recognize the fact that it is bad stuff. Obviously they were not proud of their poor choices or else they would not hide it. Today people with attitudes like yours seem to think porn is just fine and dandy. Nothing is hidden under the mattress anymore. You think just because a lot of people look at it or because it is so ubiquitous that it is OK somehow. People like you have become so desensitized to porn that you actually defend it, believing it to be a valid form of entertainment or "free expression" instead of the debased trash and degenerate danger to society that it really is. And it's getting worse all the time...

Dr. Judith A. Reisman, in a study funded by the Justice Department, has reported that "Playboy," "Penthouse," and "Hustler" magazines – the country’s three top-selling magazines of erotic literature – are responsible for promoting children as sexual objects. "From the very beginning, since 1954 (when "Playboy" released its first issue), children have appeared in sexual contexts with adults in these magazines," Dr. Reisman reported. She said "over 6,000 depictions of children were found in these three magazines alone from 1954-1984." (This is a direct appeal to pedophiles or temptation to those who may become so inclined. It certainly relates to incest. Yet we are not to be concerned with "Playboy" and "Penthouse." This is like saying that we recognize that use of marijuana often and usually leads to harder drugs but we’ll not oppose marijuana. What these two magazines now publish was considered "hard core" porn 30 years ago. -N.P.)

http://www.baptistpillar.com/bd0404.htm

 

[insein]

For a normally smart guy you've said a lot of "insein" stuff in this thread but this post takes the cake. It's not society's right to tell you how to live your life? Are you kidding? There are rules how you are supposed to act ALL OVER the place. How to drive, not to drink and drive, how to put on a license on your car, how to pay for your tabs, how to wear a seatbelt, how to not engage in road rage, how to keep your radio and muffler at acceptable levels, how not to use your cell phone, how to cross the street, and on and on and those are just some road rules...there are thousands and thousands and thousands of other rules for all phases of our stupid little lives....and you think you have some prima donna special right to promote smut for some reason? (look at the post right before this one for the reasons not to)

Does that make them right? Just because there is a law makes it right in your mind? These rules are simply the result of years of people telling other people what to do without anyone calling them on it. Just look at how ridiculous they are. How to wear your seatbelt? How to have your muffler on your car? How to use your cell phone? Who the hell's right is it for ANYONE to tell a person how to do these mundane things that do ZERO Damage to society? They dont protect a single person from harm. They simply force people to follow a rule for either a financial gain to someone else or for the sake of following a ridiculous rule.

I'll tell you why you think you do. Because the ACLU is pushing for it and you like so many others have fallen for their "free speech" spiel. Pornography is one of their "causes" that they have been working on for decades. Many have been suckered into their twisted way of thinking and you don't realize their end game. (btw they are also the ones attempting to ban Christmas for fear of offending some people - weird, huh?)

So because some fucked up organization is pushing for it makes it wrong? You can't think for yourself that much that if there is an actaul injustice you cant call it what it is because someone you hate is against it too? Gang violence is a problem in many areas of this country but because some Nazis agree with that sentiment that means we should support gang violence? Think for yourself for once and stop basing your decisions on who or what someone thinks on it.

Then you claim 75% of people use porn as if that justifies things. Many today are exposed to it because it is not restricted like it used to be - because of pushers like the ACLU and the porn industry. You say your family used to have it in the house when you were a kid. The difference between today and when your family members had it was they had the decency back then to recognize the fact that it is bad stuff. Obviously they were not proud of their poor choices or else they would not hide it. Today people with attitudes like yours seem to think porn is just fine and dandy. Nothing is hidden under the mattress anymore. You think just because a lot of people look at it or because it is so ubiquitous that it is OK somehow. People like you have become so desensitized to porn that you actually defend it, believing it to be a valid form of entertainment or "free expression" instead of the debased trash and degenerate danger to society that it really is. And it's getting worse all the time...

Ha. This is where you lose you argument. People today are NO different then people from yester year. They had the decency to hide it? WTF kind of difference does that make? They either looked at porn or they didnt. Would i pull my kid over to my lap and say "here son check out how far this chick's legs can bend backwards?" You think thats what people are doing now because you cant make a legitimate argument against a simple freedom like porn. People still don't allow their kids to look at it but view it themselves. Does that make them horrible people? In your eyes i guess because they look at porn at all. Doesnt matter if they are good parents that give their kids a moral compass to decide if things are right and wrong for themselves.

They are criminals in the eyes of people like you and should be lumped in the same group as all criminals. Murderers, rapists, child rapists, those that look at porn and those that dont wear their seatbelt right. They are all breaking society's laws so i guess they are all the same kind of people. You see how stupid that sounds SE? Society has rules and laws but it doesnt mean they are ALL right.

 

[Hagbard Celine]

Haha! The kid wore a penis costume to the prom! Hahaha! That's hilarious. Too bad the school officials were too busy being prudes to have a sense of humor. You know, people like that are the reason why we hardly ever see streaking on college campuses anymore. It's a damn shame.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Does that make them right? Just because there is a law makes it right in your mind? These rules are simply the result of years of people telling other people what to do without anyone calling them on it. Just look at how ridiculous they are. How to wear your seatbelt? How to have your muffler on your car? How to use your cell phone? Who the hell's right is it for ANYONE to tell a person how to do these mundane things that do ZERO Damage to society? They dont protect a single person from harm. They simply force people to follow a rule for either a financial gain to someone else or for the sake of following a ridiculous rule.

No, it doesn't necessarily make them right. However, rules are made by society whether you agree with them or not. That's how we muddle through things together. The point of this that is sailing way over your head is the fact that we, as a society, choose to make which laws we want or don't want. That is what democracy is all about. As with most libertarians, you have an exaggerated take on what you call freedom because you forget that you live in a society and there must be rules if it is prosper. Setting your sights on "freedom for porn" is really a poor choice in life.

So because some fucked up organization is pushing for it makes it wrong? You can't think for yourself that much that if there is an actaul injustice you cant call it what it is because someone you hate is against it too? Gang violence is a problem in many areas of this country but because some Nazis agree with that sentiment that means we should support gang violence? Think for yourself for once and stop basing your decisions on who or what someone thinks on it.

I don't think what I think because of some organization. I just pointed out to you the organization that is pushing pornography upon our society. I've already made up my own mind about the negative affect that porn has upon people. I've also made up my mind about the ACLU for many different reasons, the primary being it is communist in nature and it is attempting to tear apart our society and our democratic system.

Ha. This is where you lose you argument. People today are NO different then people from yester year. They had the decency to hide it? WTF kind of difference does that make? They either looked at porn or they didnt. Would i pull my kid over to my lap and say "here son check out how far this chick's legs can bend backwards?" You think thats what people are doing now because you cant make a legitimate argument against a simple freedom like porn. People still don't allow their kids to look at it but view it themselves. Does that make them horrible people? In your eyes i guess because they look at porn at all. Doesnt matter if they are good parents that give their kids a moral compass to decide if things are right and wrong for themselves.

Sorry, but this is not where I lose the argument. Sure, people have been tempted by sleeze throughout the ages - nothing has changed in that regard - humankind is weak. However, you are still missing my point because the public attitude toward porn has changed for the worse compared to yesteryear. Today you are talking to others and defending porn...do you think your family members would have been doing that back in their day? No way. They knew moral corruption when they saw it - they knew getting their jollies through smut was wrong.

For some reason you think you are a "good guy" because you don't show smut to your child. Wow, do as I say, not as I do. Even though you might lock your TV, you are OK with smut oozing out of your television set where you know damn well your kids are going to see it sometime, if not at your house, then at the neighbor's house or elsewhere. When porn was formerly banned, kids actually grew up in a relatively clean environment and had practically no contact with smut and sleeze similar to a lot of what is dished out regularly on the TV set today.

They are criminals in the eyes of people like you and should be lumped in the same group as all criminals. Murderers, rapists, child rapists, those that look at porn and those that dont wear their seatbelt right. They are all breaking society's laws so i guess they are all the same kind of people. You see how stupid that sounds SE? Society has rules and laws but it doesnt mean they are ALL right.

I believe that the publishers/spreaders of porn are just as criminal as rapists, child molestors, etc. because putting it out into the general public only increases the propensity for rape, child molestation, etc. People get hurt as a result of it, just like drugs, and it is very damaging to families. Porn sickens the mind and it is sick minds that choose to hurt others in their pursuit to slake their twisted lust.

What is your problem with having a positive and clean environment?

 

[dilloduck]

No, it doesn't necessarily make them right. However, rules are made by society whether you agree with them or not. That's how we muddle through things together. The point of this that is sailing way over your head is the fact that we, as a society, choose to make which laws we want or don't want. That is what democracy is all about. As with most libertarians, you have an exaggerated take on what you call freedom because you forget that you live in a society and there must be rules if it is prosper. Setting your sights on "freedom for porn" is really a poor choice in life.



I don't think what I think because of some organization. I just pointed out to you the organization that is pushing pornography upon our society. I've already made up my own mind about the negative affect that porn has upon people. I've also made up my mind about the ACLU for many different reasons, the primary being it is communist in nature and it is attempting to tear apart our society and our democratic system.



Sorry, but this is not where I lose the argument. Sure, people have been tempted by sleeze throughout the ages - nothing has changed in that regard - humankind is weak. However, you are still missing my point because the public attitude toward porn has changed for the worse compared to yesteryear. Today you are talking to others and defending porn...do you think your family members would have been doing that back in their day? No way. They knew moral corruption when they saw it - they knew getting their jollies through smut was wrong.

For some reason you think you are a "good guy" because you don't show smut to your child. Wow, do as I say, not as I do. Even though you might lock your TV, you are OK with smut oozing out of your television set where you know damn well your kids are going to see it sometime, if not at your house, then at the neighbor's house or elsewhere. When porn was formerly banned, kids actually grew up in a relatively clean environment and had practically no contact with smut and sleeze similar to a lot of what is dished out regularly on the TV set today.



I believe that the publishers/spreaders of porn are just as criminal as rapists, child molestors, etc. because putting it out into the general public only increases the propensity for rape, child molestation, etc. People get hurt as a result of it, just like drugs, and it is very damaging to families. Porn sickens the mind and it is sick minds that choose to hurt others in their pursuit to slake their twisted lust.

What is your problem with having a positive and clean environment?

Easy--he wants to do whatever feels good to him and everyone else can get screwed.

 

[MissileMan]

Obviously you don't mind living in a pigsty.
You just think the rest of us should put on waders and blinders.
If you don't think porn hurts people, read this:

If you don't want to watch porn, don't. If you don't want to let your kids see porn, use the tools available and don't let them. It's not rocket science. The presence of porn in my house doesn't make it a pigsty anymore than the presence of a blble makes your house a clean-room.

It is LEGAL at this time for adults to possess and view porn. If you don't like it, get the law changed...lotsa luck!

BTW, the article you quoted is based on "seems", "until", "often", etc. It's as worthless as the rest of your argument.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

If you don't want to watch porn, don't. If you don't want to let your kids see porn, use the tools available and don't let them. It's not rocket science. The presence of porn in my house doesn't make it a pigsty anymore than the presence of a blble makes your house a clean-room.

It is LEGAL at this time for adults to possess and view porn. If you don't like it, get the law changed...lotsa luck!

BTW, the article you quoted is based on "seems", "until", "often", etc. It's as worthless as the rest of your argument.

Once again you are giving me the lame answer of telling me to avoid porn even though it is practically unavoidable today.

I am all for the law getting changed but it's because of compromised people like you why we'll need lotsa luck.

I never said the bible makes a room clean. However, I'll still say that porn in your house makes it dirty - not to mention your mind.

But can you please tell me how I can watch TV/movies - as an adult watching adult shows - and NOT wallow in it with you?

Oh, I forgot, to you "adult" means pornographic. :wank:

 

[MissileMan]

Once again you are giving me the lame answer of telling me to avoid porn even though it is practically unavoidable today.

It's only unavoidable if you won't make an effort to avoid it. What's lame is trying to make everyone abide by your definition of proper.

I am all for the law getting changed but it's because of compromised people like you why we'll need lotsa luck.

That must mean that we, the "compromised" are a majority.

I never said the bible makes a room clean. However, I'll still say that porn in your house makes it dirty - not to mention your mind.

Ahh, the good ol' "holier than thou" argument. How refreshing!

But can you please tell me how I can watch TV/movies - as an adult watching adult shows - and NOT wallow in it with you?

It's called a V-chip...anyone who can't figure out that an adult show is going to contain adult material won't be able to figure it out on their own and is probably not smart enough to appreciate an adult show anyways. Call your service provider and have them send someone over to set it up for you. You can drool to reruns of Davey and Goliath all day.

 

[insein]

Once again you are giving me the lame answer of telling me to avoid porn even though it is practically unavoidable today.

I am all for the law getting changed but it's because of compromised people like you why we'll need lotsa luck.

I never said the bible makes a room clean. However, I'll still say that porn in your house makes it dirty - not to mention your mind.

But can you please tell me how I can watch TV/movies - as an adult watching adult shows - and NOT wallow in it with you?

Oh, I forgot, to you "adult" means pornographic. :wank:

This is the exact type of thought that has brought us very restrictive laws such as seatbelts with a fine of up to $200 "For our good" or the DUI limits that are equivalent to a shot of cough syrup that send people to prison for 2 years "for our good." If you keep making laws that make innocent people criminals, you'll be left with nothing but criminals. Then someday someone will make a law outlawing something that you take for granted but someone feel's is evil. You will then be a criminal. But take your high and mighty stance while it suits your needs and be a useful idiot to give the government more authority over your life because we're all to dumb to lead it ourselves.

 

[Hobbit]

This is the exact type of thought that has brought us very restrictive laws such as seatbelts with a fine of up to $200 "For our good" or the DUI limits that are equivalent to a shot of cough syrup that send people to prison for 2 years "for our good." If you keep making laws that make innocent people criminals, you'll be left with nothing but criminals. Then someday someone will make a law outlawing something that you take for granted but someone feel's is evil. You will then be a criminal. But take your high and mighty stance while it suits your needs and be a useful idiot to give the government more authority over your life because we're all to dumb to lead it ourselves.

I think what he's going for is not outlawing porn. However, the porn industry is very aggressive. It would be one thing if the fallability of porn blockers came from the user end, but porn advertisers have found ways around my massive firewalls and e-mail filters several times to deliver xxx-rated pictures of everything from hermaphrodites to Disney characters to beastiality to frickin' KIDDIE PORN (I forwarded that e-mail and all the relevant sender info to the FBI)! You can't just *not* watch porn. The stuff practically ties you down and forces its way down your throat. If I was making the laws, I'd have some pretty strict restrictions on the content and aggressiveness if not the all out ban on unsolicited porn ads.

On the other hand, I have yet to hear a good explanation as to why porn is not prostitution. Oh well.

 

[insein]

I think what he's going for is not outlawing porn. However, the porn industry is very aggressive. It would be one thing if the fallability of porn blockers came from the user end, but porn advertisers have found ways around my massive firewalls and e-mail filters several times to deliver xxx-rated pictures of everything from hermaphrodites to Disney characters to beastiality to frickin' KIDDIE PORN (I forwarded that e-mail and all the relevant sender info to the FBI)! You can't just *not* watch porn. The stuff practically ties you down and forces its way down your throat. If I was making the laws, I'd have some pretty strict restrictions on the content and aggressiveness if not the all out ban on unsolicited porn ads.

On the other hand, I have yet to hear a good explanation as to why porn is not prostitution. Oh well.

I agree with pop-up ads as a whole. Most pop-up ads are porn ads. However pop-up ads should be illegal for the simple fact that they are a maliciuous tool that takes control of your computer without your consent. It would be like someone coming into your house and sitting down on your couch and changing your channels to where they want you to go. Its absolute bullshit. With that i can agree with you.

Other outlets though like magazines and movies do NOT target those that don't want the merchandise. They are not on shelves for the regular public to view or purchase. Pay per view movies are just that. You can not get them without paying for them. Premium channels are also pay channels but like every other channel on a TV can be blocked with either V-chip or your cable or satelite box' parental controls which are VERY EASY to use nowadays.

Excuses for not being able to keep your kids from porn are ridiculous. You have the power to make your house porn free. If it comes down to it, don't let your kids on the internet. If you feel its such a powerful harm to your child then dont put them into that dangerous situation. You wouldnt let your child play in traffic if you feared them getting hit by a car. Don't let them on the internet unmonitored if you fear them viewing porn.

As captian planet would say, "The Power is Yours!" (For the record, captain planet was the ultimate PC propaganda creation in the history of mankind. I mean cmon 7 kids with 7 varied ethnic backgrounds fighting polution around the world from Big business, etc. Gimme a fucking break, lol.)

 

[ScreamingEagle]

I think what he's going for is not outlawing porn. However, the porn industry is very aggressive. It would be one thing if the fallability of porn blockers came from the user end, but porn advertisers have found ways around my massive firewalls and e-mail filters several times to deliver xxx-rated pictures of everything from hermaphrodites to Disney characters to beastiality to frickin' KIDDIE PORN (I forwarded that e-mail and all the relevant sender info to the FBI)! You can't just *not* watch porn. The stuff practically ties you down and forces its way down your throat. If I was making the laws, I'd have some pretty strict restrictions on the content and aggressiveness if not the all out ban on unsolicited porn ads.

On the other hand, I have yet to hear a good explanation as to why porn is not prostitution. Oh well.

No, porn is ALREADY outlawed - contrary to what others here think. It is still legal to possess it in your own home - it is your right to live in your own personal pigsty if you wish - but it is illegal to spread and distribute porn - per Federal laws. In other words, it is illegal to make our public world a pigsty.

The Supreme Court has continually stated there is no constitutional right to distribute pornographic materials.

It is illegal to distribute pornographic material and child pornography.
It is illegal to transport pornographic material and child pornography.
It is illegal to transmit pornographic material and child pornography
It is illegal to produce child pornography.
It is illegal to produce pornographic material with intent to distribute.
It is illegal to distribute material harmful to a minor to minors.
It is illegal to broadcast pornographic material over radio, television, cable and satellite systems.
It is illegal to mail pornographic material.

Distribution means conveying the material to another person. This can be done by giving it, showing it, or selling it. All methods of conveyance are illegal, i.e. handing it to someone, mailing it, e-mailing it, putting it on a web site, broadcasting it on television, satellite, or radio, over the telephone line, downloading it, uploading it and any other possible way of transferring information.

-The next logical question is WHY is there so much pornographic and obscene material available? Like we have both said, it is almost impossible to avoid it.

Many people believe material must be legal if it is available in their community such as at a store, on television or on the radio. This belief is false. The mere fact that the material is available does not mean it is legal, but law enforcement cannot seize suspected pornographic material without a court order.

The Law Enforcement and Prosecutors’ Point of View
Because pornography is based on a “community standard,” many prosecutors and law enforcement agencies do not investigate possible pornography issues unless they get a complaint. They interpret silence (the lack of complaints) as community approval. Complaints let them know that the citizens in the community are not happy with what is being distributed in their community.

A Citizens’ Point of View
On the other hand, citizens tend to believe that prosecutors and law enforcement know what most citizens find offensive and don’t think they should have to complain.

Additional Factors Adding to the Dilemma
Citizens tend to stay away from places selling material they find offensive. They don’t order the cable channels that may offend them. They don’t call the dial-a-porn numbers if they find this practice offensive. Because they are not accessing any of this material, they are not complaining about it even though they would be offended by it if they saw it. This creates an unfortunate dilemma that results in a lack of enforcement of pornography laws.

Citizen complaints are crucial for prosecutions to occur.


http://attorneygeneral.utah.gov/pornography/obscenpornlaws.htm#4

 

[The ClayTaurus]

No, porn is ALREADY outlawed - contrary to what others here think. It is still legal to possess it in your own home - it is your right to live in your own personal pigsty if you wish - but it is illegal to spread and distribute porn - per Federal laws. In other words, it is illegal to make our public world a pigsty.

The Supreme Court has continually stated there is no constitutional right to distribute pornographic materials.

It is illegal to distribute pornographic material and child pornography.
It is illegal to transport pornographic material and child pornography.
It is illegal to transmit pornographic material and child pornography
It is illegal to produce child pornography.
It is illegal to produce pornographic material with intent to distribute.
It is illegal to distribute material harmful to a minor to minors.
It is illegal to broadcast pornographic material over radio, television, cable and satellite systems.
It is illegal to mail pornographic material.

Distribution means conveying the material to another person. This can be done by giving it, showing it, or selling it. All methods of conveyance are illegal, i.e. handing it to someone, mailing it, e-mailing it, putting it on a web site, broadcasting it on television, satellite, or radio, over the telephone line, downloading it, uploading it and any other possible way of transferring information.

-The next logical question is WHY is there so much pornographic and obscene material available? Like we have both said, it is almost impossible to avoid it.

Many people believe material must be legal if it is available in their community such as at a store, on television or on the radio. This belief is false. The mere fact that the material is available does not mean it is legal, but law enforcement cannot seize suspected pornographic material without a court order.

The Law Enforcement and Prosecutors’ Point of View
Because pornography is based on a “community standard,” many prosecutors and law enforcement agencies do not investigate possible pornography issues unless they get a complaint. They interpret silence (the lack of complaints) as community approval. Complaints let them know that the citizens in the community are not happy with what is being distributed in their community.

A Citizens’ Point of View
On the other hand, citizens tend to believe that prosecutors and law enforcement know what most citizens find offensive and don’t think they should have to complain.

Additional Factors Adding to the Dilemma
Citizens tend to stay away from places selling material they find offensive. They don’t order the cable channels that may offend them. They don’t call the dial-a-porn numbers if they find this practice offensive. Because they are not accessing any of this material, they are not complaining about it even though they would be offended by it if they saw it. This creates an unfortunate dilemma that results in a lack of enforcement of pornography laws.

Citizen complaints are crucial for prosecutions to occur.


http://attorneygeneral.utah.gov/pornography/obscenpornlaws.htm#4

Playboy is illegal?

 

[insein]

Playboy is illegal?

I guess hustler, penthouse, playpen, etc are all illegal too. I suppose that billion dollar a year industry in california is illegal. Why then do XXX shops get zoning rights? Why are strip clubs allowed to exist? According to SE, its all illegal and they should all be jailed. Perhaps his statement is alittle misleading? Its Utah. Thats what that state wants, then thats fine. I won't live in Utah. If the state your in allows porn, then you should move to Utah where its banned, SE.

 

[Hagbard Celine]

I guess hustler, penthouse, playpen, etc are all illegal too. I suppose that billion dollar a year industry in california is illegal. Why then do XXX shops get zoning rights? Why are strip clubs allowed to exist? According to SE, its all illegal and they should all be jailed. Perhaps his statement is alittle misleading? Its Utah. Thats what that state wants, then thats fine. I won't live in Utah. If the state your in allows porn, then you should move to Utah where its banned, SE.

You know, that might not be a bad idea. Only Mormons get into heaven you know.