Southern Wildfires

[Old Rocks]

And how many times has Gatlinburg burned?

 

[TNHarley]

4th fatality confirmed. 15K acres burned
If it was human caused, I hope they hang the fucks

 

[koshergrl]

4th fatality confirmed. 15K acres burned
If it was human caused, I hope they hang the fucks

They are saying that a lot of it is human caused.

And it very well could be...but what the Dept. of the Interior likes to do is start burns, then accuse land owners of "arson" if they do the same.

The Dept. of the Interior needs to VACATE our public lands immediately, and allow people to manage their lands as they see fit. Because it is becoming increasingly apparent that the Dept. of the Interior's primary purpose is to destroy anybody (besides themselves) who opts to live near public lands. They groom these forests SPECIFICALLY to create a fire hazard.

 

[waltky]

Air Force sendin' C-130's to fight Tennessee Wildfires

Air Force C-130s May Battle Tennessee Wildfires
Nov 30, 2016 | Air Force C-130 cargo aircraft designed for firefighting may be used to help battle deadly wildfires scorching thousands of acres in Tennessee, an official said.

Air Force Reserve Command is standing by to deploy C-130s equipped with the Modular Airborne Firefighting System, or MAFFS, which drop hundreds of pounds of fire retardant, according to Ann Skarban, a spokeswoman for the Air Force's 302nd Airlift Wing. The U.S. Forest Service, the entity responsible for requesting the MAFFS units, hasn't yet determined whether it will require the aircraft but a plan is in place if necessary, Skarban said. The 302nd Airlift Wing, which houses the aircraft at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado, has not "received a request through the USFS for MAFFS support for the wildfires in Tennessee" nor have any other airlift wings, she said.

One reason MAFFS have not deployed could be bad weather. Storms and inclement weather in the Tennessee area have halted any regional aviation assets from taking off, U.S. Forest Service's Southern Region spokesman Adam Rondeau told Military.com on Wednesday. "Our air operations in Tennessee are currently suspended due to the weather," Rondeau said. "Aviation support will continue once the weather clears." The Forest Service is on standby to use aircraft over the wildfires, which have spread throughout 15,000 acres from the Great Smoky Mountains into residential areas such as Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge.

A C-130 Hercules, equipped with the Modular Airborne Firefighting System, drops fire retardant April 27, 2011, above West Texas.​

At least four people have died, and 45 others have been injured, according to CNN. More than 250 buildings have been damaged or destroyed. The Forest Service also prefers to use its own assets before requesting Air Force planes. The Forest Service has a variety of aircraft at its disposal to battle wildfires, including drones, single engine or large airtankers, Cessnas, or tactical aircraft, according to its website. In 2014, Congress transferred seven U.S. Coast Guard C-130H cargo planes to the Forest Service for aerial firefighting. The plan, spearheaded by Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain as part of the defense authorization bill, also included 15 C-23B Sherpa cargo planes.

The Pentagon, working with the Forest Service and the National Interagency Fire Center, supplies C-130 H and J model aircraft, flight crews, maintenance and support personnel from Peterson to fly the missions. "Prior to requesting support from the U.S. Air Force (for which we have a process in place), we would have to fully commit all of our available aviation resources region-wide, which we have yet to do," Rondeau said in an email. The 302nd has more than 10 qualified crews, according to the service. In 2015, MAFFS-equipped C-130s flew over 15 different fires in California, dropping 842,979 gallons of retardant released in 372 sorties, the Air Force said.

Source

 

[strollingbones]

for the most part the fires are out....now is the time to rebuild....that is all they can do now...morn and rebuild

 

[strollingbones]

i never remember gatlinburg burning ...

 

[skookerasbil]

the fucking k00ks are getting back at Trump voters.................

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/...the-west-feds-greens-cause-catastrophic-fires


ghey ........these progressive limpwristers are faggots of the first order.

 

[skookerasbil]

4th fatality confirmed. 15K acres burned
If it was human caused, I hope they hang the fucks

No doubt environmental nutters pissed that Trump won. duh.....who cant figure this out?

 

[TNHarley]

4th fatality confirmed. 15K acres burned
If it was human caused, I hope they hang the fucks

No doubt environmental nutters pissed that Trump won. duh.....who cant figure this out?

They caught a guy in Perry co(about 4 hrs form gat) trying to start a wildfire. He was from middle Alabama!

 

[Old Rocks]

The fires that destroyed Gatlingburg would have happened whether there was prior arson or not. The Sheriff stated that the winds were gusting to 87 mph, and knocking trees into power lines and starting multiple fires. Between the drought and the wind storm, those fires were inevitable.

the fucking k00ks are getting back at Trump voters.................

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/...the-west-feds-greens-cause-catastrophic-fires


ghey ........these progressive limpwristers are faggots of the first order.

Well now Steve, the John Day Valley is as much home to me as any place in this world. And the little cocksuck is a liar. Two things are happening there. One, the forests were over logged in the 70' and '80's. They selective log the Ponderosa Pine, not clear cut. And the standard time between logging an area is 10 years. So you log them in series, so that you have always a new area to log next year. But that was not done. Instead they logged them all at once, with a lot of mills running. And then when the Forest Service said there were no areas ready, the mills had to shut down.

Two. The area is drying out. Less total precipitation, and shorter, warmer winters with less snow. So there is less water for everything come late summer. And winds that seem now to occur almost every other year combined with the lack of water, and you have an explosive situation. One bad enough that the firefighters have to concentrate on saving the small towns and ranchs, rather than the forest.

And a third thing, thanks to the GOP Congress. The Forest Services is given x amount of dollars. Most of which now goes to fighting fires. And when they ask for dollars to thin and clear the forests, something that would put a lot of people to work, the Congress tells them to live within their budget, but don't you dare let our constituents homes burn.

 

[koshergrl]

4th fatality confirmed. 15K acres burned
If it was human caused, I hope they hang the fucks

No doubt environmental nutters pissed that Trump won. duh.....who cant figure this out?

Or *agents* who then blame it on local *trouble makers*.

 

[Old Rocks]

4th fatality confirmed. 15K acres burned
If it was human caused, I hope they hang the fucks

No doubt environmental nutters pissed that Trump won. duh.....who cant figure this out?

Or *agents* who then blame it on local *trouble makers*.

Kosher, you are one sick fuck. You should be committed.

 

[SSDD]

And how many times has Gatlinburg burned?

I realize that when one lives in a highly charged emotional state as you do, that it must be difficult to focus long enough to get a grip on reality but damnit man, try...just for a minute.

The reality is that wildfires in Tennessee are on the decline, and have been for quite some time...this is happening as the state becomes progressively wetter during the October/November time frame. You are really getting out there if you are trying to blame climate change for a fire in a particular geographic location.....really really out there...

Here, have a look at reality for just a second if you can manage to put aside emotion for that long.

Here are the number of fires in Tennessee since 1970. Note that Gatlinburg is in an area marked as having a high occurrence.

Here is the reality of Tennessee's precipitation....

 

[waltky]

Smoky Mtn's. fire death toll rises to 11...

Death toll from devastating Tennessee wildfire climbs to 11
Friday 2nd December, 2016: The death toll from a devastating blaze in and around the Great Smoky Mountains National Park in Tennessee rose to 11 on Thursday, the highest loss of civilian life from a single U.S. wildfire in 13 years.

Investigators have determined the so-called Chimney Tops 2 fire, which laid waste to whole neighborhoods in the resort town of Gatlinburg earlier this week, was caused by unspecified human activity, officials said. Total property losses from the fire have been put at more than 700 structures, with most of the destruction in Gatlinburg, known as the "gateway to the Great Smoky Mountains," in eastern Tennessee, about 40 miles (64 km) southeast of Knoxville. A total of 11 people were killed in the fire, up from seven deaths reported Wednesday, according to Dean Flener, a spokesman for the Tennessee Emergency Management Agency. That made Chimney Tops 2 the nation's single deadliest wildfire since 2013, when 19 firefighters died near Prescott, Arizona.

It also ranks as the largest civilian death toll from a U.S. wildfire since 15 people, including a firefighter, were killed in Southern California's Cedar Fire in 2003, according to Jessica Gardetto, a spokeswoman for the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise, Idaho. None of the Tennessee victims has been publicly identified, but all were presumed to be civilians, officials from the fire command center told Reuters. As many as 45 people have been reported injured. The blaze erupted on Nov. 23, Thanksgiving eve, in a remote area of rugged terrain dubbed Chimney Tops in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park near Gatlinburg, authorities said.

Fed by drought-parched brush and trees and stoked by fierce winds, the flames spread quickly days later, igniting numerous spot fires and exploding on Monday into an inferno that roared out of the park into surrounding homes and businesses. "The wildfire was determined to be human-caused and is currently under investigation," according to a bulletin released on Thursday by fire commanders and the National Park Service. It gave no further details. Aerial television news footage showed the burned-out, smoking ruins of dozens of homes surrounded by blackened trees in several neighborhoods.

Steady rains on Tuesday night and into Wednesday helped firefighters slow the blaze, but by Thursday morning officials were still reporting no containment around a fire zone that spanned more than 17,000 acres (6,880 hectares). "The fire is not out; it is just knocked down," fire operations chief Mark Jamieson said in the bulletin. About 14,000 people were forced to flee their homes at the height of the fire, and most of Gatlinburg, a city of nearly 4,000 residents, remained under mandatory evacuation on Thursday. Evacuation orders were lifted on Wednesday for the nearby town of Pigeon Forge, home of country music star Dolly Parton's theme park, Dollywood.

Death toll from devastating Tennessee wildfire climbs to 11

 

[SSDD]

Smoky Mtn's. fire death toll rises to 11...

Death toll from devastating Tennessee wildfire climbs to 11
Friday 2nd December, 2016: The death toll from a devastating blaze in and around the Great Smoky Mountains National Park in Tennessee rose to 11 on Thursday, the highest loss of civilian life from a single U.S. wildfire in 13 years.

Investigators have determined the so-called Chimney Tops 2 fire, which laid waste to whole neighborhoods in the resort town of Gatlinburg earlier this week, was caused by unspecified human activity, officials said. Total property losses from the fire have been put at more than 700 structures, with most of the destruction in Gatlinburg, known as the "gateway to the Great Smoky Mountains," in eastern Tennessee, about 40 miles (64 km) southeast of Knoxville. A total of 11 people were killed in the fire, up from seven deaths reported Wednesday, according to Dean Flener, a spokesman for the Tennessee Emergency Management Agency. That made Chimney Tops 2 the nation's single deadliest wildfire since 2013, when 19 firefighters died near Prescott, Arizona.

It also ranks as the largest civilian death toll from a U.S. wildfire since 15 people, including a firefighter, were killed in Southern California's Cedar Fire in 2003, according to Jessica Gardetto, a spokeswoman for the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise, Idaho. None of the Tennessee victims has been publicly identified, but all were presumed to be civilians, officials from the fire command center told Reuters. As many as 45 people have been reported injured. The blaze erupted on Nov. 23, Thanksgiving eve, in a remote area of rugged terrain dubbed Chimney Tops in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park near Gatlinburg, authorities said.

Fed by drought-parched brush and trees and stoked by fierce winds, the flames spread quickly days later, igniting numerous spot fires and exploding on Monday into an inferno that roared out of the park into surrounding homes and businesses. "The wildfire was determined to be human-caused and is currently under investigation," according to a bulletin released on Thursday by fire commanders and the National Park Service. It gave no further details. Aerial television news footage showed the burned-out, smoking ruins of dozens of homes surrounded by blackened trees in several neighborhoods.

Steady rains on Tuesday night and into Wednesday helped firefighters slow the blaze, but by Thursday morning officials were still reporting no containment around a fire zone that spanned more than 17,000 acres (6,880 hectares). "The fire is not out; it is just knocked down," fire operations chief Mark Jamieson said in the bulletin. About 14,000 people were forced to flee their homes at the height of the fire, and most of Gatlinburg, a city of nearly 4,000 residents, remained under mandatory evacuation on Thursday. Evacuation orders were lifted on Wednesday for the nearby town of Pigeon Forge, home of country music star Dolly Parton's theme park, Dollywood.

Death toll from devastating Tennessee wildfire climbs to 11

Tragic...but completely unrelated to man's CO2 emissions. Just one more example of climate change sucking all the air out of the room.

 

[Old Rocks]

My goodness, at least you aren't accusing the government of putting out false fatality reports. At least, not yet.

 

[Old Rocks]

And how many times has Gatlinburg burned?

I realize that when one lives in a highly charged emotional state as you do, that it must be difficult to focus long enough to get a grip on reality but damnit man, try...just for a minute.

The reality is that wildfires in Tennessee are on the decline, and have been for quite some time...this is happening as the state becomes progressively wetter during the October/November time frame. You are really getting out there if you are trying to blame climate change for a fire in a particular geographic location.....really really out there...

Here, have a look at reality for just a second if you can manage to put aside emotion for that long.

Here are the number of fires in Tennessee since 1970. Note that Gatlinburg is in an area marked as having a high occurrence.

Here is the reality of Tennessee's precipitation....

Now sweet little cocksuck, that graph could not have anything to do with the modern firefighting equipment we have? Right? And it does not include 2016. There will be a very large spike for this year.

 

[ding]

wildfires and global warming, agu - Bing video
Global warming and fires

You guys will latch on to anything. I saw a dog sleeping with a cat the other day. Yep... global warming.

 

[ding]

And how many times has Gatlinburg burned?

I realize that when one lives in a highly charged emotional state as you do, that it must be difficult to focus long enough to get a grip on reality but damnit man, try...just for a minute.

The reality is that wildfires in Tennessee are on the decline, and have been for quite some time...this is happening as the state becomes progressively wetter during the October/November time frame. You are really getting out there if you are trying to blame climate change for a fire in a particular geographic location.....really really out there...

Here, have a look at reality for just a second if you can manage to put aside emotion for that long.

Here are the number of fires in Tennessee since 1970. Note that Gatlinburg is in an area marked as having a high occurrence.

Here is the reality of Tennessee's precipitation....

Now sweet little cocksuck, that graph could not have anything to do with the modern firefighting equipment we have? Right? And it does not include 2016. There will be a very large spike for this year.

lol, no... precipitation has nothing to do with modern fire fighting equipment. My goodness you are dense.

 

[esthermoon]

What the heck! It's a tragic situation!
I hope there are not too many dead
Nature should help with rain...