Some liberal 49ers fans are not taking the Nick Bosa selection well

[WinterBorn]

Are you saying that Ali joined the Nation of Islam as a publicity stunt?

I wouldn't know for sure, of course.

But that is my opinion.

In boxing and wrestling, the idea is to get people into the seats. And if they don't care if you win or lose, that becomes a lot more difficult. It is better if they hate you, rather that be indifferent.

Mr. Ali's personality did transform over the years from his most radical days back in the 1960's, but the fact he never gave up his schtick doesn't mean that it wasn't just his brand.

His brand? His conversion to Islam is the fundamental reason he refused to be drafted. That cost him his title and the ability to fight during his prime. Thre was no guarantee that he would ever be allowed to fight again. The federal gov't revoked his boxing license and took away his passport. Few fighters could have come back from a 4 year layoff and win the title again.

You are welcome to your belief. I believe Ali stood up for what he believed and won. His activism changed things.

 

[WillPower]

I read he said he'd better shut up about being a Trump supporter in case SF drafted him. His mother was something to behold at the draft....she looked like an old stripper. Claimed Nick lived with her with his dad standing there beside her....are they divorced? Don't really care...he was a Fuckeye.....
I hate Fuckeyes. M GO BLUE!

Would that be the "Fuckeyes" that Harbough hasn't beaten since he got to Ann Arbor?

You mean he doesn't pay as well in hookers, bling, and cocaine as Urban Meyer? That's true...most Fuckeyes couldn't read their diploma if they got one, which few do. Ever been in Columbus? If they were going to give the world an enema, they'd stick the hose in Columbus, Ohio.

 

[WillPower]

His brand? His conversion to Islam is the fundamental reason he refused to be drafted. That cost him his title and the ability to fight during his prime. Thre was no guarantee that he would ever be allowed to fight again. The federal gov't revoked his boxing license and took away his passport. Few fighters could have come back from a 4 year layoff and win the title again.

You are welcome to your belief. I believe Ali stood up for what he believed and won. His activism changed things.

His "conversion to Islam" cost him million$ and his reputation for being a chickenshit draft-dodger. He "changed" nothing.

 

[leftwinger]

I heard Bosa had to delete posts and all Twitter because he backs Trumps' policies.

 

[WillPower]

I heard Bosa had to delete posts and all Twitter because he backs Trumps' policies.

True, and pretty much called Kapernick an asshole. Then when he gets word that SF will draft him, he deletes his tweets from the past and heaps praise on the kneeling fool......talk about chickenshit.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

San Fran snowflakes are butt hurt over the 49ers drafting Bosa last night because, GASP! he has an opinion different from their's and well, that's simply not allowed these days in the People's Republic of Kalifornia.

Some liberal 49ers fans are not taking the Nick Bosa selection well

“Some liberal 49ers fans”

lol

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I heard Bosa had to delete posts and all Twitter because he backs Trumps' policies.

He didn’t ‘have’ to do anything.

 

[leftwinger]

San Fran snowflakes are butt hurt over the 49ers drafting Bosa last night because, GASP! he has an opinion different from their's and well, that's simply not allowed these days in the People's Republic of Kalifornia.

Some liberal 49ers fans are not taking the Nick Bosa selection well

“Some liberal 49ers fans”

lol

“Some liberal 49ers fans”

Even when up in Candlestick the fans were known as White-Wine sippin' panty-linered loons. Worse now in Santa Clara as they priced out ghetto scum even more using PSLs'

 

[Fueri]

San Fran snowflakes are butt hurt over the 49ers drafting Bosa last night because, GASP! he has an opinion different from their's and well, that's simply not allowed these days in the People's Republic of Kalifornia.

Some liberal 49ers fans are not taking the Nick Bosa selection well

It will give them a reason to buy tickets, to see Mr. Bosa get knocked on his butt. Its a good move for SF to sign him. The late Muhammed Ali had unpopular political beliefs, trashing our country for years.

Oh really.

Link?

Muhammad Ali joined the virulent anti-honky Nation of Islam because he knew the outfit's spiel was anathema to the cigar smoking pro-American boxing fan base. I thought everyone knew that. Mr. Ali seemed to be fairly intelligent and probably didn't believe that crapola, but if it sold tickets, that's the name of the game. A similar kind of thing happened when the Iron Sheikh embraced a similar faith, hiring the Ayatollah Fred Blassie as his manager/spiritual advisor.

Its just what people do.

Not everything in the world of Sports Entertainment is strictly "true". The idea is to get people interested in the event. If the people "hate" you or want to see you get your comeuppance, that's a whole lot better than indifference.

Are you saying that Ali joined the Nation of Islam as a publicity stunt? Ali was an activist. He also maintained his religious beliefs long after he retired from boxing. His religious beliefs are a big part of what prompted his refusel to be drafted. He stood his ground and they stripped him of his title and he was unable to fight for 4 years. And it was 4 years of his prime (age 25 to 29). He changed from one variant of Islam to a different variant later in life (mainly in support of integration), but he was a muslim from 1961 until his death in 2016.

He stood up for what he believed in and paid a price to do so.

Agree with his politics or not, I respect that.

 

[WillPower]

I heard Bosa had to delete posts and all Twitter because he backs Trumps' policies.

He didn’t ‘have’ to do anything.

He'll have to watch where he walks since SF sidewalks are covered with human feces and needles from the glory of Kali socialism.

 

[WillPower]

He stood up for what he believed in and paid a price to do so.

Agree with his politics or not, I respect that.

What price did he pay? He should have gone to prison for draft-evasion, Instead, some other mother's son went in his place, first to Vietnam, then Arlington Cemetery.

 

[Pogo]

San Fran snowflakes are butt hurt over the 49ers drafting Bosa last night because, GASP! he has an opinion different from their's and well, that's simply not allowed these days in the People's Republic of Kalifornia.

Some liberal 49ers fans are not taking the Nick Bosa selection well

What the fuck is a "Liberal 49ers fan"? Or "Liberal sports fan" in any context? Where does the article even make that case other than a bait-click headline?

You understand "Liberal" is a political term right?

Bait-click headlines. See through them.

You should read the article because if you did you would not wonder but know because it gave some names in it to support their title...

I already DID read the article, else I wouldn't have commented on it.

Nobody is mentioned in it except the player himself, several Twits quoted directly or indirectly, and some ESPN talking head, ZERO of which amount to "Liberals". Sports is not politics so that leaves out the ESPN person; NOBODY on Tweeter is anybody we ourselves know, nor can we make leaps about who they are from sports to politics, and the complaints about the player seem to be taking issue with his older racist/homophobe/Rumpist Twits, again none of which makes them "Liberals".

Unless you're saying that only Liberals can be against racism, homophobia and Rump, in which case I won't argue on the first two, but anti-Rumpity has little or nothing to do with Liberalism or politics at all.

So no, still not seeing anywhere the article backs up its own headline. And that's not at all unusual --- news rags (and websites) (and message board threads) often vastly exaggerate their topic to snag eyeballs on the theory that some number of those eyeballs are going to ingest the title only without vetting the content to see if it adds up. And that's what happened here. It ain't there.

That's why I keep falling back on my maxim: if you can't articulate your point, you never had one. If the story can't demonstrate a validation of the headline, then it's a fake headline.

This is why we have rampant tribalism and what I call Dichotomy Disease --- opportunists warping everything into some kind of political football, for no "higher" purpose than that it means they can make another penny in ad clicks.

 

[leftwinger]

I heard Bosa had to delete posts and all Twitter because he backs Trumps' policies.

He didn’t ‘have’ to do anything.

He'll have to watch where he walks since SF sidewalks are covered with human feces and needles from the glory of Kali socialism.

60-90 miles away from that. Near SJ airport. Mission College Blvd near the light rail tracks. The rich live farther out and commute in off hours.

 

[WinterBorn]

His brand? His conversion to Islam is the fundamental reason he refused to be drafted. That cost him his title and the ability to fight during his prime. Thre was no guarantee that he would ever be allowed to fight again. The federal gov't revoked his boxing license and took away his passport. Few fighters could have come back from a 4 year layoff and win the title again.

You are welcome to your belief. I believe Ali stood up for what he believed and won. His activism changed things.

His "conversion to Islam" cost him million$ and his reputation for being a chickenshit draft-dodger. He "changed" nothing.

Ali had a reputation. In that you are correct. But it was as one of the greatest boxers of all time and as a man who backed his beliefs with action, regardless of the social or financial repercussions.

 

[WinterBorn]

San Fran snowflakes are butt hurt over the 49ers drafting Bosa last night because, GASP! he has an opinion different from their's and well, that's simply not allowed these days in the People's Republic of Kalifornia.

Some liberal 49ers fans are not taking the Nick Bosa selection well

It will give them a reason to buy tickets, to see Mr. Bosa get knocked on his butt. Its a good move for SF to sign him. The late Muhammed Ali had unpopular political beliefs, trashing our country for years.

Oh really.

Link?

Muhammad Ali joined the virulent anti-honky Nation of Islam because he knew the outfit's spiel was anathema to the cigar smoking pro-American boxing fan base. I thought everyone knew that. Mr. Ali seemed to be fairly intelligent and probably didn't believe that crapola, but if it sold tickets, that's the name of the game. A similar kind of thing happened when the Iron Sheikh embraced a similar faith, hiring the Ayatollah Fred Blassie as his manager/spiritual advisor.

Its just what people do.

Not everything in the world of Sports Entertainment is strictly "true". The idea is to get people interested in the event. If the people "hate" you or want to see you get your comeuppance, that's a whole lot better than indifference.

Are you saying that Ali joined the Nation of Islam as a publicity stunt? Ali was an activist. He also maintained his religious beliefs long after he retired from boxing. His religious beliefs are a big part of what prompted his refusel to be drafted. He stood his ground and they stripped him of his title and he was unable to fight for 4 years. And it was 4 years of his prime (age 25 to 29). He changed from one variant of Islam to a different variant later in life (mainly in support of integration), but he was a muslim from 1961 until his death in 2016.

He stood up for what he believed in and paid a price to do so.

Agree with his politics or not, I respect that.

Agreed.

 

[Fueri]

He stood up for what he believed in and paid a price to do so.

Agree with his politics or not, I respect that.

What price did he pay? He should have gone to prison for draft-evasion, Instead, some other mother's son went in his place, first to Vietnam, then Arlington Cemetery.

Was stripped of his belt and lost his license to fight.

And the rest is an assumption you make to use hyperbole to make a point.

He stood for what he believed in and took the heat. I can respect him for that, again, whether I agree with his politics or not, because it took balls and backbone.

 

[WillPower]

Was stripped of his belt and lost his license to fight.

And the rest is an assumption you make to use hyperbole to make a point.

He stood for what he believed in and took the heat. I can respect him for that, again, whether I agree with his politics or not, because it took balls and backbone.

No, as a combat Vet of that era, I call him what he was, a yellow coward and a pawn for the racist black muslims who were interested in nothing but his money and fame....making him a fool in addition to his cowardice.

 

[WinterBorn]

He stood up for what he believed in and paid a price to do so.

Agree with his politics or not, I respect that.

What price did he pay? He should have gone to prison for draft-evasion, Instead, some other mother's son went in his place, first to Vietnam, then Arlington Cemetery.

I believe you pointed out that he lost millions.

He was not sent to prison while his case was being appealed. Nothing unusual about that.

If the issue is that sons died in Vietnam, then the answer is that we should not have been there to begin with. And we certainly should not have fought the war like we did.

 

[Fueri]

Was stripped of his belt and lost his license to fight.

And the rest is an assumption you make to use hyperbole to make a point.

He stood for what he believed in and took the heat. I can respect him for that, again, whether I agree with his politics or not, because it took balls and backbone.

No, as a combat Vet of that era, I call him what he was, a yellow coward and a pawn for the racist black muslims who were interested in nothing but his money and fame....making him a fool in addition to his cowardice.

That's your opinion and you're welcome to it.

We'll have to disagree on that somewhat, although I sincerely thank you for your service.

 

[WillPower]

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If the issue is that sons died in Vietnam, then the answer is that we should not have been there to begin with. And we certainly should not have fought the war like we did.

Maybe if your heartthrob Nick Saban had been in charge instead of Westmoreland, we'd have gone undefeated and been home in 6 months....unbelievable how stupid you are, fool.