So, how many leftists will admit socialism failed Venezuela?

[HereWeGoAgain]

Capitalist or Socialist, Venezuela suffered from inept and corrupt government.

There is nothing about Capitalism that discourages either

An inept and corrupt government that was ran by socialist.

How much more corrupt and inept can we get than now, with this know nothing bully in our WH ?

Good God you are the stupid one.
Whose country has fallen into kaos?

 

[edward37]

Capitalist or Socialist, Venezuela suffered from inept and corrupt government.

There is nothing about Capitalism that discourages either

An inept and corrupt government that was ran by socialist.

How much more corrupt and inept can we get than now, with this know nothing bully in our WH ?

Good God you are the stupid one.
Whose country has fallen into kaos?

Not chaos but when no one trusts America anymore, when our word means shit because of the ah in our WH, things ARE NOT looking good

 

[Daryl Hunt]

So we're still pretending that what they're after is a Venezuela-style socialism, with government ownership and control of production and distribution. We can pretend anything, but I don't know if anyone actually thinks this is what they're after. Who knows, maybe talk radio has really convinced some that this is the goal.

That is the typically disingenuous pap of a Democrat Socialist who knows what his Party is about and knows that it's still gonna be a tough sell in America. The facade has been lifted Comrade Mac, the agenda is clear, and no amount of semantics, obfuscation, or pussyfooting will get the worms back into the can:

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So is that a "yes", you think the Dems want to emulate Venezuela?
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Ah, more post editing and taking things out of context.

Huh?

Just asking for clarity. It was a question, not a statement.

So what's the answer?
.

Your question was a loaded question. It's leads. It doesn't deserve an answer.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Capitalist or Socialist, Venezuela suffered from inept and corrupt government.

There is nothing about Capitalism that discourages either

An inept and corrupt government that was ran by socialist.

How much more corrupt and inept can we get than now, with this know nothing bully in our WH ?

Good God you are the stupid one.
Whose country has fallen into kaos?

Not chaos but when no one trusts America anymore, when our word means shit because of the ah in our WH, things ARE NOT looking good

Things havent been this good in decades.

 

[edward37]

Capitalist or Socialist, Venezuela suffered from inept and corrupt government.

There is nothing about Capitalism that discourages either

An inept and corrupt government that was ran by socialist.

How much more corrupt and inept can we get than now, with this know nothing bully in our WH ?

Good God you are the stupid one.
Whose country has fallen into kaos?

Not chaos but when no one trusts America anymore, when our word means shit because of the ah in our WH, things ARE NOT looking good

Things havent been this good in decades.

Recently 2 months with under 100K employed ,,,,,,Obama had 75 straight months of 6 digit employment ,,,,

 

[bripat9643]

Actually corruption ruined Ven.

When will Cons admit that Venezuela “socialism “ has nothing to do with the democratic socialist ideas we have in America.

This is what denial looks like.

As I recall, these people were praising socialism all the way... until it failed again. Same is in store for US.

No. This is what reality looks like. Venezuela is rampanrlyncorrupt. That's what cause the failure.

By contrast, look at Great Britain or the Scandinavian nations or Germany. There is Socialism without the corruption.

Wrong, Corruption is an endemic feature of socialism. However, the thing that causes failure of socialism is the inability of bureaucrats to determine what consumers want and what producers need. Ludwig von Mises explained why socialism can't possibly work almost 100 years ago, but you turds never learn.

 

[bripat9643]

Why do you think we should give a shit about what you think? You're a hack and nothin else.
I'm glad you are happy up there, you NEED the Gov to take care of you, we don't.

40 million on food stamps, 20% of the population on MedicAid, 45,000 people dying every year from lack of access to quality medical care, 27th ranked education system in the world, 75,000 people a year dying from opioid abuse.

American workers are so disgusted with being screwed over, they’ve twice voted for politicians with little to no government experience, trying to get someone to take up their plight.

Your government takes care of the rich. It focuses on opportunities for the rich, and on supply side economics, rewarding capitalists at the expense of workers. Tax dollars go to the military. What a waste!

My government provides its people with the health care, education, financial stability and support to allow us to maximize our potential.

Which explains why so many Americans are so desperate to emigrate to Canada. Oh wait ... no they aren't but your life in The North is evidently so boring that you have nothing to do but obsess about the US and hate our prez. Very sad.

Meanwhile despite what you believe we are doing pretty well and waste no time obsessing about Canada or your PM:

Job Growth Underscores Economy’s Vigor; Unemployment at Half-Century Low

A nicely and sustainably expanding economy (which has raised all ships) with low inflation.

Historically low unemployment (especially amongst our minorities) with rising wages and disposable income.

A strong dollar and investment markets.

A righting of what had been a listing (left) USSC.

Repeated exposure of our self-serving swamp and the nefarious players within it, including but not limited to our MSM/DNC and high-ranking mutts at both our DOJ & FBI.

No wonder you bitter, bitter leftards are so hysterical. Anything good for America and Americans you consider to be bad.


Thank you Mr Prez and MAGA, baby!!

And our fed is considering anywhere from 1 to 3 rate cuts Why is that?

Market analysts believes 1 or 2 small moves - no Fed official said they are considering 3 - and I told you why last week ... it's because they overdid the increases last year, just as Trump said at the time.

The question is why do you LIE so persistently and why does American success & prosperity so bother you leftards? Are you a foreign US-hater?

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
U.S. central bankers may have “slightly overdone it” by raising interest rates in December, though it’s premature to talk about a rate cut, said Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President James Bullard.

“Rates are at a good place in the U.S. right now, if anything we are a little restrictive I would say,” Bullard said in an interview with Bloomberg Television Wednesday in Hong Kong. “I am concerned we may have slightly overdone it with our December rate hike but I was pleased that the committee pivoted.”

The prosperity is very one sided Ivanka and Kurshner made close to 135 million last year Were you close?

Black and Hispanic unemployment is at the lowest point it has ever been.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

Valenzuela is NOT a socialist country. It was for a short period of time. But it quickly moved to a Dictatorship. Socialism is not a Government. It's an economic method. And MOST successful countries have part of their economic methods from Socialism as well as Capitalism. You can cut this crap out any time now.

If you leave out Capitalism and just have socialism for your economic method, a Strong Man will emerge and it will become a Dictatorship or an Oliarchy. The same goes if you leave out socialism and only have Capitalism as your only economic method. Sooner, rather than later, a Strongman will take over or an Oliarchy. Oh, they all will claim to be a lot of things but they are NOT democratic or a republic in any way. Having one without the other you only get a few choices. You can have a Mussolini (Hitler) or a Stalin. Not a whole lot of difference in the end.

Valenzuela ended up with a Stalin.

The people VOTED for Valenzuela's "Stain". Why? B/C he promised all of them 'free shit'.
He couldn't deliver all the free shit. The fucking filthy rich wouldn't pony up the money for the free shit. Result: you can't buy a roll of ass-wipe now for less than $200 US.
I don't blame the poor. Just like in the US when a fucking DEM shows up and promises the poor free shit who are the poor going to vote for?
The Dems are the party of free shit.

Or when a Capitalist promises everyone a good paying jobs. The proceeds to ship the jobs overseas or opens the new factory with full automation. Hungry people listen to all sorts of promises.

So how do you explain Trumps record employment numbers?

If I used the same method of reporting that was used in 1966,it would be right around 25% unemployment rate. The old way did not count part time jobs as employment like the do today. Back then, if you worked 2 part time jobs to make ends meet you were still considered unemployed. It's questionable even if a low paying job should be counted as well that does not meet or exceed a living wage standard. But I can play around with the "Official" figures and make it read any way that I want it to.

 

[bripat9643]

Why do you think we should give a shit about what you think? You're a hack and nothin else.
I'm glad you are happy up there, you NEED the Gov to take care of you, we don't.

40 million on food stamps, 20% of the population on MedicAid, 45,000 people dying every year from lack of access to quality medical care, 27th ranked education system in the world, 75,000 people a year dying from opioid abuse.

American workers are so disgusted with being screwed over, they’ve twice voted for politicians with little to no government experience, trying to get someone to take up their plight.

Your government takes care of the rich. It focuses on opportunities for the rich, and on supply side economics, rewarding capitalists at the expense of workers. Tax dollars go to the military. What a waste!

My government provides its people with the health care, education, financial stability and support to allow us to maximize our potential.

Which explains why so many Americans are so desperate to emigrate to Canada. Oh wait ... no they aren't but your life in The North is evidently so boring that you have nothing to do but obsess about the US and hate our prez. Very sad.

Meanwhile despite what you believe we are doing pretty well and waste no time obsessing about Canada or your PM:

Job Growth Underscores Economy’s Vigor; Unemployment at Half-Century Low

A nicely and sustainably expanding economy (which has raised all ships) with low inflation.

Historically low unemployment (especially amongst our minorities) with rising wages and disposable income.

A strong dollar and investment markets.

A righting of what had been a listing (left) USSC.

Repeated exposure of our self-serving swamp and the nefarious players within it, including but not limited to our MSM/DNC and high-ranking mutts at both our DOJ & FBI.

No wonder you bitter, bitter leftards are so hysterical. Anything good for America and Americans you consider to be bad.


Thank you Mr Prez and MAGA, baby!!

And our fed is considering anywhere from 1 to 3 rate cuts Why is that?

Market analysts believes 1 or 2 small moves - no Fed official said they are considering 3 - and I told you why last week ... it's because they overdid the increases last year, just as Trump said at the time.

The question is why do you LIE so persistently and why does American success & prosperity so bother you leftards? Are you a foreign US-hater?

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
U.S. central bankers may have “slightly overdone it” by raising interest rates in December, though it’s premature to talk about a rate cut, said Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President James Bullard.

“Rates are at a good place in the U.S. right now, if anything we are a little restrictive I would say,” Bullard said in an interview with Bloomberg Television Wednesday in Hong Kong. “I am concerned we may have slightly overdone it with our December rate hike but I was pleased that the committee pivoted.”

The prosperity is very one sided Ivanka and Kurshner made close to 135 million last year Were you close?

Socialists can never be happy if there's a single person in the world having a better time in life than them.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

Valenzuela is NOT a socialist country. It was for a short period of time. But it quickly moved to a Dictatorship. Socialism is not a Government. It's an economic method. And MOST successful countries have part of their economic methods from Socialism as well as Capitalism. You can cut this crap out any time now.

If you leave out Capitalism and just have socialism for your economic method, a Strong Man will emerge and it will become a Dictatorship or an Oliarchy. The same goes if you leave out socialism and only have Capitalism as your only economic method. Sooner, rather than later, a Strongman will take over or an Oliarchy. Oh, they all will claim to be a lot of things but they are NOT democratic or a republic in any way. Having one without the other you only get a few choices. You can have a Mussolini (Hitler) or a Stalin. Not a whole lot of difference in the end.

Valenzuela ended up with a Stalin.

The people VOTED for Valenzuela's "Stain". Why? B/C he promised all of them 'free shit'.
He couldn't deliver all the free shit. The fucking filthy rich wouldn't pony up the money for the free shit. Result: you can't buy a roll of ass-wipe now for less than $200 US.
I don't blame the poor. Just like in the US when a fucking DEM shows up and promises the poor free shit who are the poor going to vote for?
The Dems are the party of free shit.

Or when a Capitalist promises everyone a good paying jobs. The proceeds to ship the jobs overseas or opens the new factory with full automation. Hungry people listen to all sorts of promises.

So how do you explain Trumps record employment numbers?

If I used the same method of reporting that was used in 1966,it would be right around 25% unemployment rate. The old way did not count part time jobs as employment like the do today. Back then, if you worked 2 part time jobs to make ends meet you were still considered unemployed. It's questionable even if a low paying job should be counted as well that does not meet or exceed a living wage standard. But I can play around with the "Official" figures and make it read any way that I want it to.

How about some links to your fantasy?

 

[francoHFW]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

Thats not democratic socialism in Venezuela, that is a dictatorship. Democratic socialism is what you find in Western Europe, and it's working fine, much better than the predatory capitalism that exists in the U.S..

I wouldn't expect you to understand.

There are no socialist countries in Western Europe, jackass.

That's funny because they think they are. But of course but of course brainwashed idiots like you know better..."we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed.

Of course ours is the rip-off GOP version even when we get Healthcare... You are the stupidest voters in the modern world....

 

[SAYIT]

An inept and corrupt government that was ran by socialist.

How much more corrupt and inept can we get than now, with this know nothing bully in our WH ?

Only a mindless, bitter, butt-hurt would continue to demean the success & prosperity America is enjoying with that "know nothing bully in our WH." I get it ... you hate this country.

Job Growth Underscores Economy’s Vigor; Unemployment at Half-Century Low

A nicely and sustainably expanding economy (which has raised all ships) with low inflation.

Historically low unemployment (especially amongst our minorities) with rising wages and disposable income.

A strong dollar and investment markets.

A righting of what had been a listing (left) USSC.

Repeated exposure of our self-serving swamp and the nefarious players within it, including but not limited to our MSM/DNC and high-ranking mutts at both our DOJ & FBI.

No wonder you bitter, bitter leftards are so hysterical. Anything good for America and Americans you consider to be bad.


Thank you Mr Prez and MAGA, baby!!

 

[francoHFW]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

You and other dishonest rightists need to stop with the moronic lies about ‘leftists’ advocating for ‘socialism’ – they don’t; you and others on the right only make yourselves look ridiculous and stupid.

Sweet jebus you've jumped the shark

The problem is You dupes equate socialism with Communism unlike everyone else in the world.

 

[francoHFW]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

You and other dishonest rightists need to stop with the moronic lies about ‘leftists’ advocating for ‘socialism’ – they don’t; you and others on the right only make yourselves look ridiculous and stupid.

Sweet jebus you've jumped the shark

The problem is You dupes equate socialism with Communism unlike everyone else in the world.

and I include many Independents and Democrats here in Cold War dinosaur America.

 

[SAYIT]

Which explains why so many Americans are so desperate to emigrate to Canada. Oh wait ... no they aren't but your life in The North is evidently so boring that you have nothing to do but obsess about the US and hate our prez. Very sad.

Meanwhile despite what you believe we are doing pretty well and waste no time obsessing about Canada or your PM:

Job Growth Underscores Economy’s Vigor; Unemployment at Half-Century Low

A nicely and sustainably expanding economy (which has raised all ships) with low inflation.

Historically low unemployment (especially amongst our minorities) with rising wages and disposable income.

A strong dollar and investment markets.

A righting of what had been a listing (left) USSC.

Repeated exposure of our self-serving swamp and the nefarious players within it, including but not limited to our MSM/DNC and high-ranking mutts at both our DOJ & FBI.

No wonder you bitter, bitter leftards are so hysterical. Anything good for America and Americans you consider to be bad.


Thank you Mr Prez and MAGA, baby!!

And our fed is considering anywhere from 1 to 3 rate cuts Why is that?

Market analysts believes 1 or 2 small moves - no Fed official said they are considering 3 - and I told you why last week ... it's because they overdid the increases last year, just as Trump said at the time.

The question is why do you LIE so persistently and why does American success & prosperity so bother you leftards? Are you a foreign US-hater?

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
U.S. central bankers may have “slightly overdone it” by raising interest rates in December, though it’s premature to talk about a rate cut, said Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President James Bullard.

“Rates are at a good place in the U.S. right now, if anything we are a little restrictive I would say,” Bullard said in an interview with Bloomberg Television Wednesday in Hong Kong. “I am concerned we may have slightly overdone it with our December rate hike but I was pleased that the committee pivoted.”

The prosperity is very one sided Ivanka and Kurshner made close to 135 million last year Were you close?

Lame deflection and I will not join you in chasing your tail but I will say your envy is typical of leftards.

Are you a foreigner who hates the US, Comrade Ed?

Why is it lame ?/ It was an example of the great prosperity you mentioned Wonder how much your president coined Emolument clause means nothing to him He's above our laws

The discussion centered on your LIE that the Fed is considering 3 rate hikes and doing so for fear that recession is on the horizon. When faced with the truth you tried to change the subject, just as you did when you posted that LIE last week, and your reference to the emolument clause is just more of your deflection. Yes Comrade Ed, you are a LIAR.

Please keep it down to one LIE at a time, OK?

 

[SAYIT]

Well you see how Europe and the Soros 22 year plan has gone. The Hitler Youth is now starting to work again, the Muzzys have got the Home grown young people worked up into a hate group, the people in office have passed laws outlawing speech that offends anyone. It is going to blow up in their faces and they asked for it.

Soros has some serious mental & emotional issues connected to his time as a Jewish prisoner of the Nazis. It had to be devastating to those who survived. He doesn't seem to really have survived but rather he died in that extermination camp.

 

[SAYIT]

Capitalist or Socialist, Venezuela suffered from inept and corrupt government.

There is nothing about Capitalism that discourages either

An inept and corrupt government that was ran by socialist.

How much more corrupt and inept can we get than now, with this know nothing bully in our WH ?

Good God you are the stupid one.
Whose country has fallen into kaos?

You know the deal. Every leftard's life revolves around trying to jam large, ideological pegs into small holes. It leaves them believing up is down, left is right, and day is night. Very sad.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

Thats not democratic socialism in Venezuela, that is a dictatorship. Democratic socialism is what you find in Western Europe, and it's working fine, much better than the predatory capitalism that exists in the U.S..

I wouldn't expect you to understand.

There are no socialist countries in Western Europe, jackass.

That's funny because they think they are. But of course but of course brainwashed idiots like you know better..."we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed.

Of course ours is the rip-off GOP version even when we get Healthcare... You are the stupidest voters in the modern world....

No we know how to add one plus one and what a VALUE added tax is...

 

[Wyatt earp]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

You and other dishonest rightists need to stop with the moronic lies about ‘leftists’ advocating for ‘socialism’ – they don’t; you and others on the right only make yourselves look ridiculous and stupid.

Sweet jebus you've jumped the shark

The problem is You dupes equate socialism with Communism unlike everyone else in the world.

Because they got indoctrinated into thinking it wasn't ......like you super Dupe.

 

[SAYIT]

Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?

You and other dishonest rightists need to stop with the moronic lies about ‘leftists’ advocating for ‘socialism’ – they don’t; you and others on the right only make yourselves look ridiculous and stupid.

Sweet jebus you've jumped the shark

The problem is You dupes equate socialism with Communism unlike everyone else in the world.

Because they got indoctrinated into thinking it wasn't ......like you super Dupe.

And no matter how often they see the definition, they just ignore it and continue to spew their vast ignorance.

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun

1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
   • (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.