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It is simple economics
What in a capitalist based economic model would have prevented an economic meltdown in Venezuela
What would capitalists have done when faced with millions of starving people ?
Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?
Valenzuela is NOT a socialist country. It was for a short period of time. But it quickly moved to a Dictatorship. Socialism is not a Government. It's an economic method. And MOST successful countries have part of their economic methods from Socialism as well as Capitalism. You can cut this crap out any time now.
If you leave out Capitalism and just have socialism for your economic method, a Strong Man will emerge and it will become a Dictatorship or an Oliarchy. The same goes if you leave out socialism and only have Capitalism as your only economic method. Sooner, rather than later, a Strongman will take over or an Oliarchy. Oh, they all will claim to be a lot of things but they are NOT democratic or a republic in any way. Having one without the other you only get a few choices. You can have a Mussolini (Hitler) or a Stalin. Not a whole lot of difference in the end.
Valenzuela ended up with a Stalin.
Oh how silly. Socialism is a totalitarian ideology that always leads to a dictatorship. It's a feature, not a bug.
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The people VOTED for Valenzuela's "Stain". Why? B/C he promised all of them 'free shit'.Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?
Valenzuela is NOT a socialist country. It was for a short period of time. But it quickly moved to a Dictatorship. Socialism is not a Government. It's an economic method. And MOST successful countries have part of their economic methods from Socialism as well as Capitalism. You can cut this crap out any time now.
If you leave out Capitalism and just have socialism for your economic method, a Strong Man will emerge and it will become a Dictatorship or an Oliarchy. The same goes if you leave out socialism and only have Capitalism as your only economic method. Sooner, rather than later, a Strongman will take over or an Oliarchy. Oh, they all will claim to be a lot of things but they are NOT democratic or a republic in any way. Having one without the other you only get a few choices. You can have a Mussolini (Hitler) or a Stalin. Not a whole lot of difference in the end.
Valenzuela ended up with a Stalin.
He couldn't deliver all the free shit. The fucking filthy rich wouldn't pony up the money for the free shit. Result: you can't buy a roll of ass-wipe now for less than $200 US.
I don't blame the poor. Just like in the US when a fucking DEM shows up and promises the poor free shit who are the poor going to vote for?
The Dems are the party of free shit.
Or when a Capitalist promises everyone a good paying jobs. The proceeds to ship the jobs overseas or opens the new factory with full automation. Hungry people listen to all sorts of promises.
The people VOTED for Valenzuela's "Stain". Why? B/C he promised all of them 'free shit'.Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?
Valenzuela is NOT a socialist country. It was for a short period of time. But it quickly moved to a Dictatorship. Socialism is not a Government. It's an economic method. And MOST successful countries have part of their economic methods from Socialism as well as Capitalism. You can cut this crap out any time now.
If you leave out Capitalism and just have socialism for your economic method, a Strong Man will emerge and it will become a Dictatorship or an Oliarchy. The same goes if you leave out socialism and only have Capitalism as your only economic method. Sooner, rather than later, a Strongman will take over or an Oliarchy. Oh, they all will claim to be a lot of things but they are NOT democratic or a republic in any way. Having one without the other you only get a few choices. You can have a Mussolini (Hitler) or a Stalin. Not a whole lot of difference in the end.
Valenzuela ended up with a Stalin.
He couldn't deliver all the free shit. The fucking filthy rich wouldn't pony up the money for the free shit. Result: you can't buy a roll of ass-wipe now for less than $200 US.
I don't blame the poor. Just like in the US when a fucking DEM shows up and promises the poor free shit who are the poor going to vote for?
The Dems are the party of free shit.
Or when a Capitalist promises everyone a good paying jobs. The proceeds to ship the jobs overseas or opens the new factory with full automation. Hungry people listen to all sorts of promises.
Riddle me this: which are of these are heavily controlled by the government and which is relatively capitalist?
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Let's see.
Healthcare......HMOs are Capitalists.
Tuition.....outside of a community college, controlled by Capitalists
New Cars.......Just how capitalist can you get.
Overall....... All of these are trying to make the highest profit they can. And that makes them Capitalistic in nature.
Actually corruption ruined Ven.
When will Cons admit that Venezuela “socialism “ has nothing to do with the democratic socialist ideas we have in America.
This is what denial looks like.
As I recall, these people were praising socialism all the way... until it failed again. Same is in store for US.
I realize you fools need to keep explanations simple, one word or less, but Venezuela's problems aren't "socialism", but mis-management, corruption, an economic model dependant on the price stability of its one export: oil.
It is the oil based economy of Venezuela which is most responsible for the mess they're in - that and generations of corruption on both the right and the left.
But all of this is WAY too complicated for Republicans, who must always blame liberals for everything, so its "socialism". Because the abject idiocy of basing your entire economy on the price of oil is a really good idea.
They can sell their oil wherever they want, numskull.yep it has nothing to do with US sanctions making it impossible for them to sell their oilLeftarded MORONS must be leftared because they are MORONS. In your case, you defend Venezuela because it reflects poorly on what you would do to the US.Actually corruption ruined Ven.
When will Cons admit that Venezuela “socialism “ has nothing to do with the democratic socialist ideas we have in America.
This is what denial looks like.
As I recall, these people were praising socialism all the way... until it failed again. Same is in store for US.
I realize you fools need to keep explanations simple, one word or less, but Venezuela's problems aren't "socialism", but mis-management, corruption, an economic model dependant on the price stability of its one export: oil.
It is the oil based economy of Venezuela which is most responsible for the mess they're in - that and generations of corruption on both the right and the left.
But all of this is WAY too complicated for Republicans, who must always blame liberals for everything, so its "socialism". Because the abject idiocy of basing your entire economy on the price of oil is a really good idea.
Even the socialist that the V's elected to manage their socialism admitted it is the economic model that failed so miserably in Venezuela but then, WTF does he know, eh Comrade D?
Socialist Venezuela Falling Apart As President Maduro Shockingly Blames Party
News flash! Socialism in poor, closed-door economies is a failure. So says Nicolas Maduro, who happens to be the president of one: the biggest failed state in the Americas, poor ol’ Venezuela.
In a surprising twist on Monday, Maduro went against the Socialists United (PSUV) playbook of blaming Washington (especially the CIA) for Venezuela’s troubles.
“The production models we’ve tried so far have failed, and the responsibility is ours—mine and yours,” Maduro told the PSUV party congress.
Venezuela’s economy is a disaster. The country faces a massive brain drain, with middle-class people leaving in droves to Madrid and Miami. Lower-income Venezuelans are trekking across borders into Colombia and Brazil.
Inflation is off the charts, up thousands of percentage points over the last few years, and up hundreds of percent this year alone. The currency is useless. Some towns have taken to bartering.
anywhere now LOL, super duper dupe. Man our whole media sucks sometimes... Not just your ridiculous propaganda machine....
Market analysts - not the Fed - believe 1 or 2 small moves are possible and I told you why last week ... it's because they overdid the increases last year, just as Trump said at the time.And our fed is considering anywhere from 1 to 3 rate cuts Why is that?Which explains why so many Americans are so desperate to emigrate to Canada. Oh wait ... no they aren't but your life in The North is evidently so boring that you have nothing to do but obsess about the US and hate our prez. Very sad.They still blame it on imperial political and interference with local economics.
Theowl32
One way we can test out what systems are more sustainable:
Allow each party to fund and run its own programs for its own members.
It could be the "prosocialist" include more people who are not financially independent yet,
so they could run their programs like a school system, with work-study benefits on campus sites,
and paid internships where people learn work skills while they earn their education.
While the "capitalist" model represents more experienced business people with knowledge in financial
independence. So this group could provide mentorships and volunteer investors in business plans.
Instead of taxing the rich as a punitive or collective policy, REWARD wealthy business leaders and investors
with tax breaks for mentoring future leaders how to manage grants and loans properly,
paying them back by following solid business plans for development. Not relying on handouts
where they don't learn business skills for becoming self governing and sustaining.
Another idiotic "what-if" scenario brought to you by the party which has no solutions to any problem, and which has stubbornly refused to consider any legislation proposed by Democrats for the past 9 years now, while the problems of the nation have worsened The party which blocked Obama's judging appointments for 8 years as the courts descended into chaos with no one to hear cases, is now busily ramming through an army of unqualified Trump appointees, without even properly vetting them.
Why do you think we should give a shit about what you think? You're a hack and nothin else.
I'm glad you are happy up there, you NEED the Gov to take care of you, we don't.
40 million on food stamps, 20% of the population on MedicAid, 45,000 people dying every year from lack of access to quality medical care, 27th ranked education system in the world, 75,000 people a year dying from opioid abuse.
American workers are so disgusted with being screwed over, they’ve twice voted for politicians with little to no government experience, trying to get someone to take up their plight.
Your government takes care of the rich. It focuses on opportunities for the rich, and on supply side economics, rewarding capitalists at the expense of workers. Tax dollars go to the military. What a waste!
My government provides its people with the health care, education, financial stability and support to allow us to maximize our potential.
Meanwhile despite what you believe we are doing pretty well and waste no time obsessing about Canada or your PM:
Job Growth Underscores Economy’s Vigor; Unemployment at Half-Century Low
A nicely and sustainably expanding economy (which has raised all ships) with low inflation.
Historically low unemployment (especially amongst our minorities) with rising wages and disposable income.
A strong dollar and investment markets.
A righting of what had been a listing (left) USSC.
Repeated exposure of our self-serving swamp and the nefarious players within it, including but not limited to our MSM/DNC and high-ranking mutts at both our DOJ & FBI.
No wonder you bitter, bitter leftards are so hysterical. Anything good for America and Americans you consider to be bad.
Thank you Mr Prez and MAGA, baby!!
No. This is what reality looks like. Venezuela is rampanrlyncorrupt. That's what cause the failure.Actually corruption ruined Ven.
When will Cons admit that Venezuela “socialism “ has nothing to do with the democratic socialist ideas we have in America.
This is what denial looks like.
As I recall, these people were praising socialism all the way... until it failed again. Same is in store for US.
Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?
Hey, dolt, for your edification, it was a "strong man" leader who ignored law that caused the country such grief.
BTW, you are a freakin idiot.
The prosperity is very one sided Ivanka and Kurshner made close to 135 million last year Were you close?Market analysts believes 1 or 2 small moves - no Fed official said they are considering 3 - and I told you why last week ... it's because they overdid the increases last year, just as Trump said at the time.And our fed is considering anywhere from 1 to 3 rate cuts Why is that?Which explains why so many Americans are so desperate to emigrate to Canada. Oh wait ... no they aren't but your life in The North is evidently so boring that you have nothing to do but obsess about the US and hate our prez. Very sad.Another idiotic "what-if" scenario brought to you by the party which has no solutions to any problem, and which has stubbornly refused to consider any legislation proposed by Democrats for the past 9 years now, while the problems of the nation have worsened The party which blocked Obama's judging appointments for 8 years as the courts descended into chaos with no one to hear cases, is now busily ramming through an army of unqualified Trump appointees, without even properly vetting them.
Why do you think we should give a shit about what you think? You're a hack and nothin else.
I'm glad you are happy up there, you NEED the Gov to take care of you, we don't.
40 million on food stamps, 20% of the population on MedicAid, 45,000 people dying every year from lack of access to quality medical care, 27th ranked education system in the world, 75,000 people a year dying from opioid abuse.
American workers are so disgusted with being screwed over, they’ve twice voted for politicians with little to no government experience, trying to get someone to take up their plight.
Your government takes care of the rich. It focuses on opportunities for the rich, and on supply side economics, rewarding capitalists at the expense of workers. Tax dollars go to the military. What a waste!
My government provides its people with the health care, education, financial stability and support to allow us to maximize our potential.
Meanwhile despite what you believe we are doing pretty well and waste no time obsessing about Canada or your PM:
Job Growth Underscores Economy’s Vigor; Unemployment at Half-Century Low
A nicely and sustainably expanding economy (which has raised all ships) with low inflation.
Historically low unemployment (especially amongst our minorities) with rising wages and disposable income.
A strong dollar and investment markets.
A righting of what had been a listing (left) USSC.
Repeated exposure of our self-serving swamp and the nefarious players within it, including but not limited to our MSM/DNC and high-ranking mutts at both our DOJ & FBI.
No wonder you bitter, bitter leftards are so hysterical. Anything good for America and Americans you consider to be bad.
Thank you Mr Prez and MAGA, baby!!
The question is why do you LIE so persistently and why does American success & prosperity so bother you leftards? Are you a foreign US-hater?
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
U.S. central bankers may have “slightly overdone it” by raising interest rates in December, though it’s premature to talk about a rate cut, said Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President James Bullard.
“Rates are at a good place in the U.S. right now, if anything we are a little restrictive I would say,” Bullard said in an interview with Bloomberg Television Wednesday in Hong Kong. “I am concerned we may have slightly overdone it with our December rate hike but I was pleased that the committee pivoted.”
None of you conservatives meatheads can explain what the Dems are doing that will turn us into Venezuela?
They still blame it on imperial political and interference with local economics.Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?
Theowl32
One way we can test out what systems are more sustainable:
Allow each party to fund and run its own programs for its own members.
It could be the "prosocialist" include more people who are not financially independent yet,
so they could run their programs like a school system, with work-study benefits on campus sites,
and paid internships where people learn work skills while they earn their education.
While the "capitalist" model represents more experienced business people with knowledge in financial
independence. So this group could provide mentorships and volunteer investors in business plans.
Instead of taxing the rich as a punitive or collective policy, REWARD wealthy business leaders and investors
with tax breaks for mentoring future leaders how to manage grants and loans properly,
paying them back by following solid business plans for development. Not relying on handouts
where they don't learn business skills for becoming self governing and sustaining.
Another idiotic "what-if" scenario brought to you by the party which has no solutions to any problem, and which has stubbornly refused to consider any legislation proposed by Democrats for the past 9 years now, while the problems of the nation have worsened The party which blocked Obama's judging appointments for 8 years as the courts descended into chaos with no one to hear cases, is now busily ramming through an army of unqualified Trump appointees, without even properly vetting them.
Why do you think we should give a shit about what you think? You're a hack and nothin else.
I'm glad you are happy up there, you NEED the Gov to take care of you, we don't.
40 million on food stamps, 20% of the population on MedicAid, 45,000 people dying every year from lack of access to quality medical care, 27th ranked education system in the world, 75,000 people a year dying from opioid abuse.
American workers are so disgusted with being screwed over, they’ve twice voted for politicians with little to no government experience, trying to get someone to take up their plight.
Your government takes care of the rich. It focuses on opportunities for the rich, and on supply side economics, rewarding capitalists at the expense of workers. Tax dollars go to the military. What a waste!
My government provides its people with the health care, education, financial stability and support to allow us to maximize our potential.
Do you think the che guevera worshipers are able to admit that?
What aspects of capitalism would have shielded Venezuela from economic collapse?
How would capitalist have dealt with millions of starving poor people?
Capitalist or Socialist, Venezuela suffered from inept and corrupt government.
There is nothing about Capitalism that discourages either
Lame deflection and I will not join you in chasing your tail but I will say your envy is typical of leftards.The prosperity is very one sided Ivanka and Kurshner made close to 135 million last year Were you close?Market analysts believes 1 or 2 small moves - no Fed official said they are considering 3 - and I told you why last week ... it's because they overdid the increases last year, just as Trump said at the time.And our fed is considering anywhere from 1 to 3 rate cuts Why is that?Which explains why so many Americans are so desperate to emigrate to Canada. Oh wait ... no they aren't but your life in The North is evidently so boring that you have nothing to do but obsess about the US and hate our prez. Very sad.Why do you think we should give a shit about what you think? You're a hack and nothin else.
I'm glad you are happy up there, you NEED the Gov to take care of you, we don't.
40 million on food stamps, 20% of the population on MedicAid, 45,000 people dying every year from lack of access to quality medical care, 27th ranked education system in the world, 75,000 people a year dying from opioid abuse.
American workers are so disgusted with being screwed over, they’ve twice voted for politicians with little to no government experience, trying to get someone to take up their plight.
Your government takes care of the rich. It focuses on opportunities for the rich, and on supply side economics, rewarding capitalists at the expense of workers. Tax dollars go to the military. What a waste!
My government provides its people with the health care, education, financial stability and support to allow us to maximize our potential.
Meanwhile despite what you believe we are doing pretty well and waste no time obsessing about Canada or your PM:
Job Growth Underscores Economy’s Vigor; Unemployment at Half-Century Low
A nicely and sustainably expanding economy (which has raised all ships) with low inflation.
Historically low unemployment (especially amongst our minorities) with rising wages and disposable income.
A strong dollar and investment markets.
A righting of what had been a listing (left) USSC.
Repeated exposure of our self-serving swamp and the nefarious players within it, including but not limited to our MSM/DNC and high-ranking mutts at both our DOJ & FBI.
No wonder you bitter, bitter leftards are so hysterical. Anything good for America and Americans you consider to be bad.
Thank you Mr Prez and MAGA, baby!!
The question is why do you LIE so persistently and why does American success & prosperity so bother you leftards? Are you a foreign US-hater?
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
U.S. central bankers may have “slightly overdone it” by raising interest rates in December, though it’s premature to talk about a rate cut, said Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President James Bullard.
“Rates are at a good place in the U.S. right now, if anything we are a little restrictive I would say,” Bullard said in an interview with Bloomberg Television Wednesday in Hong Kong. “I am concerned we may have slightly overdone it with our December rate hike but I was pleased that the committee pivoted.”
How much more corrupt and inept can we get than now, with this know nothing bully in our WH ?Capitalist or Socialist, Venezuela suffered from inept and corrupt government.
There is nothing about Capitalism that discourages either
An inept and corrupt government that was ran by socialist.
Why is it lame ?/ It was an example of the great prosperity you mentioned Wonder how much your president coined Emolument clause means nothing to him He's above our lawsLame deflection and I will not join you in chasing your tail but I will say your envy is typical of leftards.The prosperity is very one sided Ivanka and Kurshner made close to 135 million last year Were you close?Market analysts believes 1 or 2 small moves - no Fed official said they are considering 3 - and I told you why last week ... it's because they overdid the increases last year, just as Trump said at the time.And our fed is considering anywhere from 1 to 3 rate cuts Why is that?Which explains why so many Americans are so desperate to emigrate to Canada. Oh wait ... no they aren't but your life in The North is evidently so boring that you have nothing to do but obsess about the US and hate our prez. Very sad.40 million on food stamps, 20% of the population on MedicAid, 45,000 people dying every year from lack of access to quality medical care, 27th ranked education system in the world, 75,000 people a year dying from opioid abuse.
American workers are so disgusted with being screwed over, they’ve twice voted for politicians with little to no government experience, trying to get someone to take up their plight.
Your government takes care of the rich. It focuses on opportunities for the rich, and on supply side economics, rewarding capitalists at the expense of workers. Tax dollars go to the military. What a waste!
My government provides its people with the health care, education, financial stability and support to allow us to maximize our potential.
Meanwhile despite what you believe we are doing pretty well and waste no time obsessing about Canada or your PM:
Job Growth Underscores Economy’s Vigor; Unemployment at Half-Century Low
A nicely and sustainably expanding economy (which has raised all ships) with low inflation.
Historically low unemployment (especially amongst our minorities) with rising wages and disposable income.
A strong dollar and investment markets.
A righting of what had been a listing (left) USSC.
Repeated exposure of our self-serving swamp and the nefarious players within it, including but not limited to our MSM/DNC and high-ranking mutts at both our DOJ & FBI.
No wonder you bitter, bitter leftards are so hysterical. Anything good for America and Americans you consider to be bad.
Thank you Mr Prez and MAGA, baby!!
The question is why do you LIE so persistently and why does American success & prosperity so bother you leftards? Are you a foreign US-hater?
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
U.S. central bankers may have “slightly overdone it” by raising interest rates in December, though it’s premature to talk about a rate cut, said Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President James Bullard.
“Rates are at a good place in the U.S. right now, if anything we are a little restrictive I would say,” Bullard said in an interview with Bloomberg Television Wednesday in Hong Kong. “I am concerned we may have slightly overdone it with our December rate hike but I was pleased that the committee pivoted.”
Are you a foreigner who hates the US, Comrade Ed?
