So Harry Reid screws over the RINO's in the Senate again

[tinydancer]

Ah one more time you have the suck up RINO freaking morons coming on their hands and knees to offer a wonderfully moderate proposal for the debt ceiling crisis.

AND BAM! Old Harry bitch slaps them so hard they're all out and about today whining, wailing, and gnashing their dentures.

These old assholes never learn. And they never will. They deserve what they got.



Oh and the rest of the article deals with the new ransom House Democrats are demanding.

See what happens when you give these progressive pricks and inch?

The plan called for a debt-ceiling extension through the end of January and a six-month federal budget agreement at levels set by the January sequester. Also included were a two-year delay of the controversial medical-device tax under Obamacare, and a mechanism to verify the incomes of Americans claiming Obamacare-related subsidies.

Then, according to Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, Democrats 'moved the goalposts in light of ... polling data' that showed they could extract more concessions from Republican senators – in addition to the collapse of 'defund' and 'delay' Obamacare demands.

'We were ready to go to the press gallery' to announce a deal, McCain said Sunday on CBS' Face the Nation program. 'The Democrat leadership said no.'

The always-understated Collins told CNN's Candy Crowley on the State Of The Union program that she was 'very surprised' to see Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid reject her plan at the last minute. 'I don't think it was very constructive,' she said.

Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was more pointed, noting in a statement Sunday that Reid had already succeeded in forcing House Republicans to abandon their immediate hope of seeing Obamacare gutted.

'It's time for Democrat leaders to take "yes" for an answer,' McConnell said.



I hope this stings big time.

Democrats demand a ransom: Senators demand spending cuts are axed in any deal to end shutdown | Mail Online

 

[HenryBHough]

Primaries? Nay, BLOODBATHS!

 

[Sarah G]

Yes bloodbaths. Thousands of them.

 

[Katzndogz]

One leftist plant and the liberals go batshit crazy.

 

[decker]

Yes bloodbaths. Thousands of them.

who knows what happens in midterms but even in conservatives do win sentate and house they need to work with president and he need to work with them to get things done for the country. its as simple as that. bickering got to stop as some point as people must be turned of by hatred from both sides

 

[tinydancer]

Yes bloodbaths. Thousands of them.

who knows what happens in midterms but even in conservatives do win sentate and house they need to work with president and he need to work with them to get things done for the country. its as simple as that. bickering got to stop as some point as people must be turned of by hatred from both sides

Are you aware that President Obama is the very first President in American history to refuse to negotiate over the debt ceiling?

 

[LoneLaugher]

The debt ceiling is not the GOP 's to give.

When both sides of a negotiation want a particular thing... one of the sides cannot use it to bargin with.

The inability of nutters to grasp this point is pretty fucking frustrating.

 

[decker]

Yes bloodbaths. Thousands of them.

who knows what happens in midterms but even in conservatives do win sentate and house they need to work with president and he need to work with them to get things done for the country. its as simple as that. bickering got to stop as some point as people must be turned of by hatred from both sides

Are you aware that President Obama is the very first President in American history to refuse to negotiate over the debt ceiling?

Yes but i think that he should neogitate but at same time it was conservatives that forced this with trying to defund a law that they knew was never going to pass the sentate. why they did not wait for law to carry on and dem face election potential backlash in 2014 i never know.

I think in end both sides need to come together to make a deal. default would be a nightmare that won,t helps dems or gop.

 

[Toro]

Republicans should unilaterally say they will support raising the debt ceiling. They should make it loud and make it clear.

Then, they should say they would be willing to reopen the government based on the finances of the government prior to the government shutting down.

Then, they should say they are willing to negotiate a long-term deal on the budget.

Then, they should do nothing.

If they revert to the finances prior to Sept 30, the Sequester is still in place. The Democrats want the Sequester to go away. Republicans should let the Democrats explain why, on top of sky-high spending, they want even more spending.

 

[decker]

Republicans should unilaterally say they will support raising the debt ceiling. They should make it loud and make it clear.

Then, they should say they would be willing to reopen the government based on the finances of the government prior to the government shutting down.

Then, they should say they are willing to negotiate a long-term deal on the budget.

Then, they should do nothing.

If they revert to the finances prior to Sept 30, the Sequester is still in place. The Democrats want the Sequester to go away. Republicans should let the Democrats explain why, on top of sky-high spending, they want even more spending.

you do make a fair point their although i am not sure all dem want sequster to go away. They got to deal with it at some point

 

[Nyvin]

God forbid the democrats actually ASK for something rather then just say no to ridiculous GOP demands.

I also find it hilarious that the OP FINALLY calls this crap "ransom demands" ONLY when the Democrats do it, lmao. Tinydancer ignores me like a coward though so I'll just let this go.

 

[Toro]

I really think the Democrats are over-playing their hand.

The Republicans have already caved over their initial stand. They lost. But that doesn't appear to be enough for the Democrats. It appears they want to claw back some of what Republicans won at the beginning of the year.

Maybe I'm wrong since I'm only watching this tangentially. But that's how it appears to me.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Yes bloodbaths. Thousands of them.

who knows what happens in midterms but even in conservatives do win sentate and house they need to work with president and he need to work with them to get things done for the country. its as simple as that. bickering got to stop as some point as people must be turned of by hatred from both sides

Are you aware that President Obama is the very firstPresident in American history to refuse to negotiate over the debt ceiling?

Republicans should introduce a bill that strengthens the 2nd ammendment
and stare down the dems to oppose it.

 

[Dot Com]

Yes bloodbaths. Thousands of them.

who knows what happens in midterms but even in conservatives do win sentate and house they need to work with president and he need to work with them to get things done for the country. its as simple as that. bickering got to stop as some point as people must be turned of by hatred from both sides

Are you aware that President Obama is the very first President in American history to refuse to negotiate over the debt ceiling?

ummm..... he told them beforehand because of what Teapubs did in 2011 tinyd

And- whats w/ your foreign newspaper sources???

 

[Hoffstra]

oh, so the Senate GOP didn't offer a clean CR yet?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The debt ceiling is not the GOP 's to give.

When both sides of a negotiation want a particular thing... one of the sides cannot use it to bargin with.

The inability of nutters to grasp this point is pretty fucking frustrating.

We hold the congress, it's ours to give or not to whether you like that or not. All spending must originate in the congress, period.

You can be frustrated until you wet yourself but the fact is repubs hold the congress and you have to deal with it.

 

[Nyvin]

The debt ceiling is not the GOP 's to give.

When both sides of a negotiation want a particular thing... one of the sides cannot use it to bargin with.

The inability of nutters to grasp this point is pretty fucking frustrating.

We hold the congress, it's ours to give or not to whether you like that or not. All spending must originate in the congress, period.

You can be frustrated until you wet yourself but the fact is repubs hold the congress and you have to deal with it.

They hold the House, not Congress.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The debt ceiling is not the GOP 's to give.

When both sides of a negotiation want a particular thing... one of the sides cannot use it to bargin with.

The inability of nutters to grasp this point is pretty fucking frustrating.

We hold the congress, it's ours to give or not to whether you like that or not. All spending must originate in the congress, period.

You can be frustrated until you wet yourself but the fact is repubs hold the congress and you have to deal with it.

They hold the House, not Congress.

Your confusion is what?

 

[DaGoose]

Ah one more time you have the suck up RINO freaking morons coming on their hands and knees to offer a wonderfully moderate proposal for the debt ceiling crisis.

AND BAM! Old Harry bitch slaps them so hard they're all out and about today whining, wailing, and gnashing their dentures.

These old assholes never learn. And they never will. They deserve what they got.



Oh and the rest of the article deals with the new ransom House Democrats are demanding.

See what happens when you give these progressive pricks and inch?

The plan called for a debt-ceiling extension through the end of January and a six-month federal budget agreement at levels set by the January sequester. Also included were a two-year delay of the controversial medical-device tax under Obamacare, and a mechanism to verify the incomes of Americans claiming Obamacare-related subsidies.

Then, according to Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, Democrats 'moved the goalposts in light of ... polling data' that showed they could extract more concessions from Republican senators – in addition to the collapse of 'defund' and 'delay' Obamacare demands.

'We were ready to go to the press gallery' to announce a deal, McCain said Sunday on CBS' Face the Nation program. 'The Democrat leadership said no.'

The always-understated Collins told CNN's Candy Crowley on the State Of The Union program that she was 'very surprised' to see Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid reject her plan at the last minute. 'I don't think it was very constructive,' she said.

Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was more pointed, noting in a statement Sunday that Reid had already succeeded in forcing House Republicans to abandon their immediate hope of seeing Obamacare gutted.

'It's time for Democrat leaders to take "yes" for an answer,' McConnell said.



I hope this stings big time.

Democrats demand a ransom: Senators demand spending cuts are axed in any deal to end shutdown | Mail Online

So any GOP'er who is not a Tea Party member or a Neo-Con is a RINO?

Interesting....

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[tinydancer]

who knows what happens in midterms but even in conservatives do win sentate and house they need to work with president and he need to work with them to get things done for the country. its as simple as that. bickering got to stop as some point as people must be turned of by hatred from both sides

Are you aware that President Obama is the very first President in American history to refuse to negotiate over the debt ceiling?

Yes but i think that he should neogitate but at same time it was conservatives that forced this with trying to defund a law that they knew was never going to pass the sentate. why they did not wait for law to carry on and dem face election potential backlash in 2014 i never know.

I think in end both sides need to come together to make a deal. default would be a nightmare that won,t helps dems or gop.

The budget impasse and consequent partial shutdown of the government is an entirely separate issue than the debt ceiling.

I have just shown in my OP that Collins and other RINOS in the Senate got down on their knees and asked Obama politely for a pillow and a bib as they sucked and caved to almost everything dear leader wanted.

And then Harry Reid shoved the capitulated deal right back in their faces.

Re: backlash

Last shutdown gained the Republicans 2 seats in the Senate and they only lost 3 seats in the House and carried both the House and the Senate to majority status AGAIN.