Shame on us All

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Of course not. ..

You kinda sound like a bigot.

And you sound like you are hitting on me.

To be funny that would have to make the slightest bit of sense, but it doesn’t. Instead, it just highlights how badly you are trying to deflect from your vile intolerant bigotry.

Why would I deflect? ....

Because you’re ashamed of being a bigot.

Well that's disconcerting.

 

[BreezeWood]

Somewhere along the line during the past 50 years or so, "we" as a society have decided that SHAME is an inappropriate emotion and that causing someone to feel shame, intentionally or not, is a cultural "sin," like using a disfavored word (e.g., Oriental, retarded).

So no one is ashamed of using vulgar or crude language among strangers. No is ashamed to be dressed inappropriately for a social occasion. No one is ashamed to be poorly groomed, wearing dirty or worn clothes, or to be wearing "exercise" clothes at inappropriate times and places (e.g., yoga pants to church).

It is a "sin" to say anything that might tend to make one ashamed of being fat, or lazy, or drunk.

And god help you if you say anything or even make a facial expression that might tend to make a single mother, welfare recipient, or the beneficiary of any government program uncomfortable. In fact, the very idea that there is anything to be ashamed about for being "on the dole," or having a kid out of wedlock is culturally obsolete.

There was a germ of sanity and kindness in the original thought that "shame" should not be used as a bludgeon against people, when the reason for shame was totally out of their control. You shouldn't "shame" someone for being short, or ugly, or for having worn out clothes, when that is the result of true poverty. You shouldn't shame someone for their gender, race, color, ethnicity or religion (except Mormons).

But there are things that one should be ashamed of. Few people are fat because of a medical disorder; most cases or morbid obesity are simply a manifestation of failure to control ones appetites and lifestyle. Two generations ago, obesity was rare for both rich and poor, so it ain't genetic. Failure to groom and dress appropriately is entirely within the person's control. The way we talk is entirely within our control. Even uneducated people know that there are many words that are inappropriate for general social interaction with strangers.

Having a child with no husband is usually the result of horrible decision-making at several stages of social interaction, by at least two people. And relying on Government (i.e., Everyone Else) to support you and your offspring is absolutely disgraceful conduct. No shame? Are you kidding me?

It is shameful that we have abandoned the constructive use of shame.

.

or to be wearing "exercise" clothes at inappropriate times and places (e.g., yoga pants to church)

- or to be wearing ... yoga pants to church


may the Almighty roast them in hell forever ...

 

[Votto]

Somewhere along the line during the past 50 years or so, "we" as a society have decided that SHAME is an inappropriate emotion and that causing someone to feel shame, intentionally or not, is a cultural "sin," like using a disfavored word (e.g., Oriental, retarded).

So no one is ashamed of using vulgar or crude language among strangers. No is ashamed to be dressed inappropriately for a social occasion. No one is ashamed to be poorly groomed, wearing dirty or worn clothes, or to be wearing "exercise" clothes at inappropriate times and places (e.g., yoga pants to church).

It is a "sin" to say anything that might tend to make one ashamed of being fat, or lazy, or drunk.

And god help you if you say anything or even make a facial expression that might tend to make a single mother, welfare recipient, or the beneficiary of any government program uncomfortable. In fact, the very idea that there is anything to be ashamed about for being "on the dole," or having a kid out of wedlock is culturally obsolete.

There was a germ of sanity and kindness in the original thought that "shame" should not be used as a bludgeon against people, when the reason for shame was totally out of their control. You shouldn't "shame" someone for being short, or ugly, or for having worn out clothes, when that is the result of true poverty. You shouldn't shame someone for their gender, race, color, ethnicity or religion (except Mormons).

But there are things that one should be ashamed of. Few people are fat because of a medical disorder; most cases or morbid obesity are simply a manifestation of failure to control ones appetites and lifestyle. Two generations ago, obesity was rare for both rich and poor, so it ain't genetic. Failure to groom and dress appropriately is entirely within the person's control. The way we talk is entirely within our control. Even uneducated people know that there are many words that are inappropriate for general social interaction with strangers.

Having a child with no husband is usually the result of horrible decision-making at several stages of social interaction, by at least two people. And relying on Government (i.e., Everyone Else) to support you and your offspring is absolutely disgraceful conduct. No shame? Are you kidding me?

It is shameful that we have abandoned the constructive use of shame.

Reactionary, authoritarian nonsense.

The notion of ‘shaming’ those with whom we disagree in an effort to compel conformity is as arrogant as it is unwarranted and wrong.

Fear of dissent and seeking punitive measures against dissent in a pointless effort to realize some idealized American past that never actually existed to begin with is ridiculous and harmful.

If there’s anything to be ashamed of it’s this sort of frightened, reactionary dross.

You mean like spitting on people who support Trump or cursing at them or shouting them down or firing them if it is speculated that you have said or done something racially offensive?

Of course not, so take it back. No, you endorse this sort of behavior.

It's the new Scarlet "A" is all, godless and Left winged

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Somewhere along the line during the past 50 years or so, "we" as a society have decided that SHAME is an inappropriate emotion and that causing someone to feel shame, intentionally or not, is a cultural "sin," like using a disfavored word (e.g., Oriental, retarded).

So no one is ashamed of using vulgar or crude language among strangers. No is ashamed to be dressed inappropriately for a social occasion. No one is ashamed to be poorly groomed, wearing dirty or worn clothes, or to be wearing "exercise" clothes at inappropriate times and places (e.g., yoga pants to church).

It is a "sin" to say anything that might tend to make one ashamed of being fat, or lazy, or drunk.

And god help you if you say anything or even make a facial expression that might tend to make a single mother, welfare recipient, or the beneficiary of any government program uncomfortable. In fact, the very idea that there is anything to be ashamed about for being "on the dole," or having a kid out of wedlock is culturally obsolete.

There was a germ of sanity and kindness in the original thought that "shame" should not be used as a bludgeon against people, when the reason for shame was totally out of their control. You shouldn't "shame" someone for being short, or ugly, or for having worn out clothes, when that is the result of true poverty. You shouldn't shame someone for their gender, race, color, ethnicity or religion (except Mormons).

But there are things that one should be ashamed of. Few people are fat because of a medical disorder; most cases or morbid obesity are simply a manifestation of failure to control ones appetites and lifestyle. Two generations ago, obesity was rare for both rich and poor, so it ain't genetic. Failure to groom and dress appropriately is entirely within the person's control. The way we talk is entirely within our control. Even uneducated people know that there are many words that are inappropriate for general social interaction with strangers.

Having a child with no husband is usually the result of horrible decision-making at several stages of social interaction, by at least two people. And relying on Government (i.e., Everyone Else) to support you and your offspring is absolutely disgraceful conduct. No shame? Are you kidding me?

It is shameful that we have abandoned the constructive use of shame.

Reactionary, authoritarian nonsense.

The notion of ‘shaming’ those with whom we disagree in an effort to compel conformity is as arrogant as it is unwarranted and wrong.

Fear of dissent and seeking punitive measures against dissent in a pointless effort to realize some idealized American past that never actually existed to begin with is ridiculous and harmful.

If there’s anything to be ashamed of it’s this sort of frightened, reactionary dross.

You mean like spitting on people who support Trump or cursing at them or shouting them down or firing them if it is speculated that you have said or done something racially offensive?

Of course not, so take it back. No, you endorse this sort of behavior.

It's the new Scarlet "A" is all, godless and Left winged

And you endorse white supremacists running over people with cars. Looks like there will be a lot of apologies to go around...

 

[Votto]

Somewhere along the line during the past 50 years or so, "we" as a society have decided that SHAME is an inappropriate emotion and that causing someone to feel shame, intentionally or not, is a cultural "sin," like using a disfavored word (e.g., Oriental, retarded).

So no one is ashamed of using vulgar or crude language among strangers. No is ashamed to be dressed inappropriately for a social occasion. No one is ashamed to be poorly groomed, wearing dirty or worn clothes, or to be wearing "exercise" clothes at inappropriate times and places (e.g., yoga pants to church).

It is a "sin" to say anything that might tend to make one ashamed of being fat, or lazy, or drunk.

And god help you if you say anything or even make a facial expression that might tend to make a single mother, welfare recipient, or the beneficiary of any government program uncomfortable. In fact, the very idea that there is anything to be ashamed about for being "on the dole," or having a kid out of wedlock is culturally obsolete.

There was a germ of sanity and kindness in the original thought that "shame" should not be used as a bludgeon against people, when the reason for shame was totally out of their control. You shouldn't "shame" someone for being short, or ugly, or for having worn out clothes, when that is the result of true poverty. You shouldn't shame someone for their gender, race, color, ethnicity or religion (except Mormons).

But there are things that one should be ashamed of. Few people are fat because of a medical disorder; most cases or morbid obesity are simply a manifestation of failure to control ones appetites and lifestyle. Two generations ago, obesity was rare for both rich and poor, so it ain't genetic. Failure to groom and dress appropriately is entirely within the person's control. The way we talk is entirely within our control. Even uneducated people know that there are many words that are inappropriate for general social interaction with strangers.

Having a child with no husband is usually the result of horrible decision-making at several stages of social interaction, by at least two people. And relying on Government (i.e., Everyone Else) to support you and your offspring is absolutely disgraceful conduct. No shame? Are you kidding me?

It is shameful that we have abandoned the constructive use of shame.

Reactionary, authoritarian nonsense.

The notion of ‘shaming’ those with whom we disagree in an effort to compel conformity is as arrogant as it is unwarranted and wrong.

Fear of dissent and seeking punitive measures against dissent in a pointless effort to realize some idealized American past that never actually existed to begin with is ridiculous and harmful.

If there’s anything to be ashamed of it’s this sort of frightened, reactionary dross.

You mean like spitting on people who support Trump or cursing at them or shouting them down or firing them if it is speculated that you have said or done something racially offensive?

Of course not, so take it back. No, you endorse this sort of behavior.

It's the new Scarlet "A" is all, godless and Left winged

And you endorse white supremacists running over people with cars. Looks like there will be a lot of apologies to go around...

And you're and idiot.

No, no I don't

Here is an idea, why not have the IRS audit me the way Obama targeted conservatives?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Somewhere along the line during the past 50 years or so, "we" as a society have decided that SHAME is an inappropriate emotion and that causing someone to feel shame, intentionally or not, is a cultural "sin," like using a disfavored word (e.g., Oriental, retarded).

So no one is ashamed of using vulgar or crude language among strangers. No is ashamed to be dressed inappropriately for a social occasion. No one is ashamed to be poorly groomed, wearing dirty or worn clothes, or to be wearing "exercise" clothes at inappropriate times and places (e.g., yoga pants to church).

It is a "sin" to say anything that might tend to make one ashamed of being fat, or lazy, or drunk.

And god help you if you say anything or even make a facial expression that might tend to make a single mother, welfare recipient, or the beneficiary of any government program uncomfortable. In fact, the very idea that there is anything to be ashamed about for being "on the dole," or having a kid out of wedlock is culturally obsolete.

There was a germ of sanity and kindness in the original thought that "shame" should not be used as a bludgeon against people, when the reason for shame was totally out of their control. You shouldn't "shame" someone for being short, or ugly, or for having worn out clothes, when that is the result of true poverty. You shouldn't shame someone for their gender, race, color, ethnicity or religion (except Mormons).

But there are things that one should be ashamed of. Few people are fat because of a medical disorder; most cases or morbid obesity are simply a manifestation of failure to control ones appetites and lifestyle. Two generations ago, obesity was rare for both rich and poor, so it ain't genetic. Failure to groom and dress appropriately is entirely within the person's control. The way we talk is entirely within our control. Even uneducated people know that there are many words that are inappropriate for general social interaction with strangers.

Having a child with no husband is usually the result of horrible decision-making at several stages of social interaction, by at least two people. And relying on Government (i.e., Everyone Else) to support you and your offspring is absolutely disgraceful conduct. No shame? Are you kidding me?

It is shameful that we have abandoned the constructive use of shame.

Reactionary, authoritarian nonsense.

The notion of ‘shaming’ those with whom we disagree in an effort to compel conformity is as arrogant as it is unwarranted and wrong.

Fear of dissent and seeking punitive measures against dissent in a pointless effort to realize some idealized American past that never actually existed to begin with is ridiculous and harmful.

If there’s anything to be ashamed of it’s this sort of frightened, reactionary dross.

You mean like spitting on people who support Trump or cursing at them or shouting them down or firing them if it is speculated that you have said or done something racially offensive?

Of course not, so take it back. No, you endorse this sort of behavior.

It's the new Scarlet "A" is all, godless and Left winged

And you endorse white supremacists running over people with cars. Looks like there will be a lot of apologies to go around...

And you're and idiot.

No, no I don't

Wait, I'm not allowed to treat you the way you treat others? That seems like a rule more fit for a toddler.

 

[Votto]

Somewhere along the line during the past 50 years or so, "we" as a society have decided that SHAME is an inappropriate emotion and that causing someone to feel shame, intentionally or not, is a cultural "sin," like using a disfavored word (e.g., Oriental, retarded).

So no one is ashamed of using vulgar or crude language among strangers. No is ashamed to be dressed inappropriately for a social occasion. No one is ashamed to be poorly groomed, wearing dirty or worn clothes, or to be wearing "exercise" clothes at inappropriate times and places (e.g., yoga pants to church).

It is a "sin" to say anything that might tend to make one ashamed of being fat, or lazy, or drunk.

And god help you if you say anything or even make a facial expression that might tend to make a single mother, welfare recipient, or the beneficiary of any government program uncomfortable. In fact, the very idea that there is anything to be ashamed about for being "on the dole," or having a kid out of wedlock is culturally obsolete.

There was a germ of sanity and kindness in the original thought that "shame" should not be used as a bludgeon against people, when the reason for shame was totally out of their control. You shouldn't "shame" someone for being short, or ugly, or for having worn out clothes, when that is the result of true poverty. You shouldn't shame someone for their gender, race, color, ethnicity or religion (except Mormons).

But there are things that one should be ashamed of. Few people are fat because of a medical disorder; most cases or morbid obesity are simply a manifestation of failure to control ones appetites and lifestyle. Two generations ago, obesity was rare for both rich and poor, so it ain't genetic. Failure to groom and dress appropriately is entirely within the person's control. The way we talk is entirely within our control. Even uneducated people know that there are many words that are inappropriate for general social interaction with strangers.

Having a child with no husband is usually the result of horrible decision-making at several stages of social interaction, by at least two people. And relying on Government (i.e., Everyone Else) to support you and your offspring is absolutely disgraceful conduct. No shame? Are you kidding me?

It is shameful that we have abandoned the constructive use of shame.

Reactionary, authoritarian nonsense.

The notion of ‘shaming’ those with whom we disagree in an effort to compel conformity is as arrogant as it is unwarranted and wrong.

Fear of dissent and seeking punitive measures against dissent in a pointless effort to realize some idealized American past that never actually existed to begin with is ridiculous and harmful.

If there’s anything to be ashamed of it’s this sort of frightened, reactionary dross.

You mean like spitting on people who support Trump or cursing at them or shouting them down or firing them if it is speculated that you have said or done something racially offensive?

Of course not, so take it back. No, you endorse this sort of behavior.

It's the new Scarlet "A" is all, godless and Left winged

And you endorse white supremacists running over people with cars. Looks like there will be a lot of apologies to go around...

And you're and idiot.

No, no I don't

Wait, I'm not allowed to treat you the way you treat others? That seems like a rule more fit for a toddler.

I treated you poorly?

You accused me of being a white supremacist and endorsing murder and violence.

Try again.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Reactionary, authoritarian nonsense.

The notion of ‘shaming’ those with whom we disagree in an effort to compel conformity is as arrogant as it is unwarranted and wrong.

Fear of dissent and seeking punitive measures against dissent in a pointless effort to realize some idealized American past that never actually existed to begin with is ridiculous and harmful.

If there’s anything to be ashamed of it’s this sort of frightened, reactionary dross.

You mean like spitting on people who support Trump or cursing at them or shouting them down or firing them if it is speculated that you have said or done something racially offensive?

Of course not, so take it back. No, you endorse this sort of behavior.

It's the new Scarlet "A" is all, godless and Left winged

And you endorse white supremacists running over people with cars. Looks like there will be a lot of apologies to go around...

And you're and idiot.

No, no I don't

Wait, I'm not allowed to treat you the way you treat others? That seems like a rule more fit for a toddler.

I treated you poorly?

You accused me of being a white supremacist and endorsing murder and violence.

Try again.

And you accused another poster of endorsing assault.

 

[Votto]

You mean like spitting on people who support Trump or cursing at them or shouting them down or firing them if it is speculated that you have said or done something racially offensive?

Of course not, so take it back. No, you endorse this sort of behavior.

It's the new Scarlet "A" is all, godless and Left winged

And you endorse white supremacists running over people with cars. Looks like there will be a lot of apologies to go around...

And you're and idiot.

No, no I don't

Wait, I'm not allowed to treat you the way you treat others? That seems like a rule more fit for a toddler.

I treated you poorly?

You accused me of being a white supremacist and endorsing murder and violence.

Try again.

And you accused another poster of endorsing assault.

What assault? Spitting on someone? That is assault?

I'm sure you agree that Dims like Whoopi should not be fired for that sort of thing, nor charged criminally with assault for it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Spitting on someone? That is assault?

Indeed it is. Now how do you come by the knowledge that the other poster endorses this?

 

[Votto]

Spitting on someone? That is assault?

Indeed it is. Now how do you come by the knowledge that the other poster endorses this?

So Whoopi should be fired and taken to court?

Hmm? I wonder what liberal judge and lawyer and member of the media would do this?

 

[Darkwind]

Somewhere along the line during the past 50 years or so, "we" as a society have decided that SHAME is an inappropriate emotion and that causing someone to feel shame, intentionally or not, is a cultural "sin," like using a disfavored word (e.g., Oriental, retarded).

So no one is ashamed of using vulgar or crude language among strangers. No is ashamed to be dressed inappropriately for a social occasion. No one is ashamed to be poorly groomed, wearing dirty or worn clothes, or to be wearing "exercise" clothes at inappropriate times and places (e.g., yoga pants to church).

It is a "sin" to say anything that might tend to make one ashamed of being fat, or lazy, or drunk.

And god help you if you say anything or even make a facial expression that might tend to make a single mother, welfare recipient, or the beneficiary of any government program uncomfortable. In fact, the very idea that there is anything to be ashamed about for being "on the dole," or having a kid out of wedlock is culturally obsolete.

There was a germ of sanity and kindness in the original thought that "shame" should not be used as a bludgeon against people, when the reason for shame was totally out of their control. You shouldn't "shame" someone for being short, or ugly, or for having worn out clothes, when that is the result of true poverty. You shouldn't shame someone for their gender, race, color, ethnicity or religion (except Mormons).

But there are things that one should be ashamed of. Few people are fat because of a medical disorder; most cases or morbid obesity are simply a manifestation of failure to control ones appetites and lifestyle. Two generations ago, obesity was rare for both rich and poor, so it ain't genetic. Failure to groom and dress appropriately is entirely within the person's control. The way we talk is entirely within our control. Even uneducated people know that there are many words that are inappropriate for general social interaction with strangers.

Having a child with no husband is usually the result of horrible decision-making at several stages of social interaction, by at least two people. And relying on Government (i.e., Everyone Else) to support you and your offspring is absolutely disgraceful conduct. No shame? Are you kidding me?

It is shameful that we have abandoned the constructive use of shame.

Reactionary, authoritarian nonsense.

The notion of ‘shaming’ those with whom we disagree in an effort to compel conformity is as arrogant as it is unwarranted and wrong.

Fear of dissent and seeking punitive measures against dissent in a pointless effort to realize some idealized American past that never actually existed to begin with is ridiculous and harmful.

If there’s anything to be ashamed of it’s this sort of frightened, reactionary dross.

When right over your head.

Still, you use shame in every post you make so this makes you just another progressive liar.

 

[Darkwind]

Somewhere along the line during the past 50 years or so, "we" as a society have decided that SHAME is an inappropriate emotion and that causing someone to feel shame, intentionally or not, is a cultural "sin," like using a disfavored word (e.g., Oriental, retarded).

So no one is ashamed of using vulgar or crude language among strangers. No is ashamed to be dressed inappropriately for a social occasion. No one is ashamed to be poorly groomed, wearing dirty or worn clothes, or to be wearing "exercise" clothes at inappropriate times and places (e.g., yoga pants to church).

It is a "sin" to say anything that might tend to make one ashamed of being fat, or lazy, or drunk.

And god help you if you say anything or even make a facial expression that might tend to make a single mother, welfare recipient, or the beneficiary of any government program uncomfortable. In fact, the very idea that there is anything to be ashamed about for being "on the dole," or having a kid out of wedlock is culturally obsolete.

There was a germ of sanity and kindness in the original thought that "shame" should not be used as a bludgeon against people, when the reason for shame was totally out of their control. You shouldn't "shame" someone for being short, or ugly, or for having worn out clothes, when that is the result of true poverty. You shouldn't shame someone for their gender, race, color, ethnicity or religion (except Mormons).

But there are things that one should be ashamed of. Few people are fat because of a medical disorder; most cases or morbid obesity are simply a manifestation of failure to control ones appetites and lifestyle. Two generations ago, obesity was rare for both rich and poor, so it ain't genetic. Failure to groom and dress appropriately is entirely within the person's control. The way we talk is entirely within our control. Even uneducated people know that there are many words that are inappropriate for general social interaction with strangers.

Having a child with no husband is usually the result of horrible decision-making at several stages of social interaction, by at least two people. And relying on Government (i.e., Everyone Else) to support you and your offspring is absolutely disgraceful conduct. No shame? Are you kidding me?

It is shameful that we have abandoned the constructive use of shame.

It is you who should be ashamed of yourself, prancing around condemning people while cloaked in fake, divine authority. We should help people out of compassion and empathy, and people like you should be openly mocked and condemned for your magical bullshit.

^^^^^^^^

The use of shame. What a fucking hypocrite you are.

 

[Darkwind]

Somewhere along the line during the past 50 years or so, "we" as a society have decided that SHAME is an inappropriate emotion and that causing someone to feel shame, intentionally or not, is a cultural "sin," like using a disfavored word (e.g., Oriental, retarded).

So no one is ashamed of using vulgar or crude language among strangers. No is ashamed to be dressed inappropriately for a social occasion. No one is ashamed to be poorly groomed, wearing dirty or worn clothes, or to be wearing "exercise" clothes at inappropriate times and places (e.g., yoga pants to church).

It is a "sin" to say anything that might tend to make one ashamed of being fat, or lazy, or drunk.

And god help you if you say anything or even make a facial expression that might tend to make a single mother, welfare recipient, or the beneficiary of any government program uncomfortable. In fact, the very idea that there is anything to be ashamed about for being "on the dole," or having a kid out of wedlock is culturally obsolete.

There was a germ of sanity and kindness in the original thought that "shame" should not be used as a bludgeon against people, when the reason for shame was totally out of their control. You shouldn't "shame" someone for being short, or ugly, or for having worn out clothes, when that is the result of true poverty. You shouldn't shame someone for their gender, race, color, ethnicity or religion (except Mormons).

But there are things that one should be ashamed of. Few people are fat because of a medical disorder; most cases or morbid obesity are simply a manifestation of failure to control ones appetites and lifestyle. Two generations ago, obesity was rare for both rich and poor, so it ain't genetic. Failure to groom and dress appropriately is entirely within the person's control. The way we talk is entirely within our control. Even uneducated people know that there are many words that are inappropriate for general social interaction with strangers.

Having a child with no husband is usually the result of horrible decision-making at several stages of social interaction, by at least two people. And relying on Government (i.e., Everyone Else) to support you and your offspring is absolutely disgraceful conduct. No shame? Are you kidding me?

It is shameful that we have abandoned the constructive use of shame.

Shame is a useful tool to effect change. Usually for the better in the person being shamed. But we've bred the trait out of the young so it is no longer effective.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Somewhere along the line during the past 50 years or so, "we" as a society have decided that SHAME is an inappropriate emotion and that causing someone to feel shame, intentionally or not, is a cultural "sin," like using a disfavored word (e.g., Oriental, retarded).

So no one is ashamed of using vulgar or crude language among strangers. No is ashamed to be dressed inappropriately for a social occasion. No one is ashamed to be poorly groomed, wearing dirty or worn clothes, or to be wearing "exercise" clothes at inappropriate times and places (e.g., yoga pants to church).

It is a "sin" to say anything that might tend to make one ashamed of being fat, or lazy, or drunk.

And god help you if you say anything or even make a facial expression that might tend to make a single mother, welfare recipient, or the beneficiary of any government program uncomfortable. In fact, the very idea that there is anything to be ashamed about for being "on the dole," or having a kid out of wedlock is culturally obsolete.

There was a germ of sanity and kindness in the original thought that "shame" should not be used as a bludgeon against people, when the reason for shame was totally out of their control. You shouldn't "shame" someone for being short, or ugly, or for having worn out clothes, when that is the result of true poverty. You shouldn't shame someone for their gender, race, color, ethnicity or religion (except Mormons).

But there are things that one should be ashamed of. Few people are fat because of a medical disorder; most cases or morbid obesity are simply a manifestation of failure to control ones appetites and lifestyle. Two generations ago, obesity was rare for both rich and poor, so it ain't genetic. Failure to groom and dress appropriately is entirely within the person's control. The way we talk is entirely within our control. Even uneducated people know that there are many words that are inappropriate for general social interaction with strangers.

Having a child with no husband is usually the result of horrible decision-making at several stages of social interaction, by at least two people. And relying on Government (i.e., Everyone Else) to support you and your offspring is absolutely disgraceful conduct. No shame? Are you kidding me?

It is shameful that we have abandoned the constructive use of shame.

It is you who should be ashamed of yourself, prancing around condemning people while cloaked in fake, divine authority. We should help people out of compassion and empathy, and people like you should be openly mocked and condemned for your magical bullshit.

^^^^^^^^

The use of shame. What a fucking hypocrite you are.

How does that make me a hypocrite? I didn't say it was wrong to shame people. try to better organize your thoughts before posting.

 

[Darkwind]

Somewhere along the line during the past 50 years or so, "we" as a society have decided that SHAME is an inappropriate emotion and that causing someone to feel shame, intentionally or not, is a cultural "sin," like using a disfavored word (e.g., Oriental, retarded).

So no one is ashamed of using vulgar or crude language among strangers. No is ashamed to be dressed inappropriately for a social occasion. No one is ashamed to be poorly groomed, wearing dirty or worn clothes, or to be wearing "exercise" clothes at inappropriate times and places (e.g., yoga pants to church).

It is a "sin" to say anything that might tend to make one ashamed of being fat, or lazy, or drunk.

And god help you if you say anything or even make a facial expression that might tend to make a single mother, welfare recipient, or the beneficiary of any government program uncomfortable. In fact, the very idea that there is anything to be ashamed about for being "on the dole," or having a kid out of wedlock is culturally obsolete.

There was a germ of sanity and kindness in the original thought that "shame" should not be used as a bludgeon against people, when the reason for shame was totally out of their control. You shouldn't "shame" someone for being short, or ugly, or for having worn out clothes, when that is the result of true poverty. You shouldn't shame someone for their gender, race, color, ethnicity or religion (except Mormons).

But there are things that one should be ashamed of. Few people are fat because of a medical disorder; most cases or morbid obesity are simply a manifestation of failure to control ones appetites and lifestyle. Two generations ago, obesity was rare for both rich and poor, so it ain't genetic. Failure to groom and dress appropriately is entirely within the person's control. The way we talk is entirely within our control. Even uneducated people know that there are many words that are inappropriate for general social interaction with strangers.

Having a child with no husband is usually the result of horrible decision-making at several stages of social interaction, by at least two people. And relying on Government (i.e., Everyone Else) to support you and your offspring is absolutely disgraceful conduct. No shame? Are you kidding me?

It is shameful that we have abandoned the constructive use of shame.

It is you who should be ashamed of yourself, prancing around condemning people while cloaked in fake, divine authority. We should help people out of compassion and empathy, and people like you should be openly mocked and condemned for your magical bullshit.

^^^^^^^^

The use of shame. What a fucking hypocrite you are.

How does that make me a hypocrite? I didn't say it was wrong to shame people. try to better organize your thoughts before posting.

LOL

You're railing against an OP that speaks about how shame used to be an effective tool to control behavior. Now you want to imply that you support shaming.

Get a thought before you believe you can tell others how to think.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You're railing against an OP that speaks about how shame used to be an effective tool to control behavior.

Bu pointing out that the things he shames people for are not valid, and that he is the one who should be ashamed. Maybe you also need to read more carefully, in addition to better organizing your thoughts.

 

[Darkwind]

You're railing against an OP that speaks about how shame used to be an effective tool to control behavior.

Bu pointing out that the things he shames people for are not valid, and that he is the one who should be ashamed. Maybe you also need to read more carefully, in addition to better organizing your thoughts.

They are valid as they were proven effective before the left came along with their PC bull squeeze.

People actually made efforts to keep from being seen in such a shameful light. Not so much anymore.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They are valid

I disagree. Your opinion is noted, and you, too, should be ashamed. Man, sucks to be on the losing team, eh? 18 months of prancing and dancing over Trump... and still society rejects your nauseating little neuroses, superstitions, and fetishes,, and more so every day...

 

[Darkwind]

They are valid

I disagree. Your opinion is noted, and you, too, should be ashamed. Man, sucks to be on the losing team, eh? 18 months of prancing and dancing over Trump... and still society rejects your nauseating little neuroses, superstitions, and fetishes,, and more so every day...

So, I accept your capitulation.

Losing team? Thanks for the laugh.