Sen Joe McCarthy: American Patriot and Hero

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  1. Toronado3800
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    Wait, was that reply to my question?

    Just please tell me what counts as "guilty" or "not guilty" or heck, even throw me a "worth investigating".

    Just please give an answer not a dodge.
     
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    What the fuck are you talking about?

    You asked, "What did we decide?" And I told you. It has been "decided" - ie. proven - that the left is full of shit on the subject of McCarthy.

    In regards to your blather about "guilty or not guilty", these people weren't on trial. They were being investigated as possible security risks by a Senate subcommittee whose job was government oversight. The fact that you don't even fucking know what the point of the whole exercise WAS tells me you have no business discussing it.

    Is that straightforward enough for you?
     
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    McCarthy was a liar, a demagogue, and a partisan hack – he contrived controversies where none existed, just to advance his career.

    “Mostly McCarthy didn't have any hard evidence against the people he was interrogating…”

    And the likes of Darrell Issa continue that republican tradition today with equally baseless accusations.

    McCarthyism indeed.
     
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    Ma'm, you sound way to confrontational and emotional about this.

    If you would just say something adult or intelligent like "everyone he called out did something suspicous" I might say "yup" and that is the end of it.

    Instead you get all sounding like Rush Linbaugh taught you how to talk to people. I hope we never agree on anything because you can make a reasonable point of view look otherwise :(
     
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    Clayton, if angry Joe could not find 50 folks with at least some "ties" to communism in the 50's he would have been an even bigger idiot. Remember these folks all lived through the 30's when a socialist revolution seem a possibility. These folks just do not seem to know how to say that.
     
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    Sen. McCarthy was a drunk and a liar. At least that was how he was perceived by the Journalists of the day; a time when Journalism had ethics, I should add. Today the history of his time of fame is being rewritten as foreseen in the Novel "1984".

    See:

    Edward R. Murrow: A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy
     
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    "Tailgunner Joe" Mccarthy had his picture taken in the tailgunner position in an airplane in WW2, although he actually had a desk job. That did not keep him from claiming that he had flown 32 missions. He had actually flown none. He used the photo in his campaign to get elected. I used to live in Reno. and the story is that Joe and his aids where staying at the Mapes Hotel there one night, and together drreamed up the communist witch hunt as a way to get publicity. China had been taken over by communists, and the Soviets had deveoped the bomb. Everyone was paranoid about the world wide communist conspiracy, especially after the Korean War began. In the movie, "Manchurian Candidate" McCarthy was represented by a character who was accusing everyone to be a communist, in order to get on the ticket as a VP candidate. In the last scene of the movie, he was assasinated by the hero.During the Army hearings, the attorney that finally stood up to Joe, and cut him down to size in a statement he made to the effect that , "...at long last, have you no decency, sir....?". This attorney later played the part as the judge in the movie, "Anatomy of a murder", with Jimmy Stewart.

    Joe was actually on good terms with JFK, since he dated one of JFK's sisters for a while. However, he became a full blown alchololic while in office. He bragged to people that he did not get drunk, no matter how much he drank, because he ate a stick of butter that lined his stomach when he was drinking, and kept his body from absorbing alcohol too quickly. Robert Kennedy worked for him for about 6 months, but bailed out when he saw what Joe was all about. He did everybody a big favor by dying of acute alcoholism in 1957 at a very early age.By that time, Edward R. Murrow had destroyed Joe's career.
     
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    The very few communists that McCArthy did come outwith from his supposed "list" WERE communistsand a few spies.
    But everyone had been exposed and filtered out by the late 40s long before Joe McCarthy and his hearings.

    This all came about with Ann Coulter's book which she waited for every one involved on the intelligence and defense side to die before she published it.

    No one with any credibility in the intelligence or defense industry takes it seriously.
     
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    Name one.

    Please give me one name that Joe McCarthy incorrectly identitfied
     
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    So you know nothing about McCarthy.

    Mmmmkay

    Did you know that Communist spies were feeding information on our Korean troops back to their masters in China and getting US soldiers killed?

    Why do you think Korea is "The Forgotten War"?
     

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