Sarah Palin run for Prez

[JamesInFlorida]

She can't win because she quit on the state of Alaska. Her reasoning was because the political climate was so corrupt (I actually don't dispute this). Where she runs into trouble is this: what better position than to try clean up the corruption than as governor? I don't think there's a really good answer to this.

In debates, and during a presidential run I doubt she'd be able to escape the label of being a quitter. That's not being a strong leader whatsoever, so I don't think she'd have that leadership edge over anybody.

 

[JamesInFlorida]

I liked Sarah Palin before she started trying to ride on the Tea Party wagon. I think the movement had more credibility as individual grassroots citizens based on Constitutional values, before this became fuel for onesided Republican politicking against Democrats.

I still think we need a mixed ticket. I would prefer a Conservative or Moderate Republican for President who can work with a Moderate Progressive Democrat as Vice President.

How can you claim to represent all citizens and public interests equally if parties "take turns" controlling executive or legislative branches, and then waste resources fighting instead of cooperating on Constitutional solutions everyone can freely consent to.

I have been pondering this.

Sarah Palin is extremely knowledgeable.

YouTube - Palin SRLC - Part 1

YouTube - Sarah Palin Speech at the Southern GOP Conference

I don't think anyone who heard her speak at the SRLC can deny that. And she did it without a teleprompter.

We know that the radical left wingers shot all their ammo at her, attacking her children, attacking her as a mom, trying to portray her as stupid, yadda, yadda, yadda. They did this because they consider her a grave threat. The question we should ask ourselves is why do they consider her such a threat?

We also know that Obama is dumber than a rock.

He is the twit that has been embracing america's enemies, and alienating america's friends.

He is the twit that wants to raise all sorts of taxes in a bad economy.

He is the twit that wants to micromanage the private sector and thinks this won't lead lead to economic collapse.

So here is my question. Do you think that she is now immune fromthe viciousness of the liberal attacks in 3 years? Has she developed the antibodies? or do you think that they successfully destroyed her by being the evil vermin tha liberals are?

I do feel that she can do a great job. She did great for Alaska. She had 80% approval, took on corruption in her own party, cut spending even when there was a surplus in the Alaskan budget, lowered taxes, gave tax rebates to Alaskans., etc.

All her good points (and the Tea Party's) are lost if this becomes partisan competition. If there was a mixed ticket with goals of mutual cooperation and correction, people might listen instead of shutting each other out to discredit one group and credit another instead.

We think a lot alike. I also favor cooperation between the parties. That is what this country was FOUNDED on.
However, the discipline of mediation AND COMPROMISE is a lost one with right wing and left wing KOOKS.

 

[USArmyRetired]

I do not believe that at all. This woman knows all aspects about what we need in America right now. Faith, Honesty, and patriotism. These aspects of American life have left us and now we can see the consequences. Sarah Palin can lead this country to the glory years once again. All we need is a REAL AMERICAN running the show.

So she goes out there and spews out a lot of feel-good generalizations and you people lap it up like there's no tommorrow.

Just what the hell can any elected official do to to engender these values?

Maybe give tax credits for flying the flag or going to church?

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[USArmyRetired]

She is all but over. Her stupid show got canceled, her book sales have tanked, and this tragedy has made her look even more foolish.

Conservatives would do well to admit they put their money on the wrong horse and move on.

Now see, you are very misinformed. Palins show did not get cancelled. She only contracted to do 8 episodes and that was it. The episodes ended last night. They offered her to do more episodes and she declined. Quit your smear tactics on this fine patriotic woman and get your facts straight. Palin is not through. She is just getting started and she is not backing down to anybody, left or right.

 

[mdn2000]

I'll explain this to you how it works.

1.) Alaska government taxes oil companies.
2.) Alaska government takes those taxes and gives it to everyone else in the state.

Or I'll draw a picture.

Money taxed from oil companies ---> goes to ---> Alaskans.

Imagine this scenario.

1.) California government taxes Silicon Valley companies
2.) California government taxes those taxes and gives it to everyone else in the state.

If California did that, I would imagine guys like you would be starting threads about "Communism" and "Socialism" and "Marxism" and "Hitlerism" in California. But, ah, Alaska does it, and its a "tax cut."

Its amazing how the mind can rationalize things, isn't it?

What is so difficult to understand?

Alaska gets most of it's money in the state budget from oil companies in the form of taxes. If the oil companies are doing well, Alaska collects more revenue. If the oil companies are doing poorly, Alaska collects less revenue.

Alaska then needs to decide what to do with the revenue. Oil companies at the time that Sarah Palin was elected were doing well. Therefore, the Alaska budget had a surplus at this time.

Palin was pressured to spend the money on whatever stuff legislatures piss money away on. Instead of doing that she gave a tax rebate to the people of Alaska.

That is a good thing.

I think its a good thing as well. I said in an earlier post that it is generally better for the government to give it to the people than to spend it.

But understand it for what it is - it is a transference of wealth from the profits of oil companies to everybody else. If it was anything else, then the taxes for the oil companies should go lower, not taxes from the oil companies going to Alaskans. It is no different than taxing the profits of Apple or Cisco and giving it directly to everybody else. The only difference is that it is oil rather than hardware or software.

Actually its very different, Oil is on state owned land, Oil companies lease the land and extract oil from public land. If Apple was harvesting computers from state owned land you would have made a point.

 

[rightwinger]

She is all but over. Her stupid show got canceled, her book sales have tanked, and this tragedy has made her look even more foolish.

Conservatives would do well to admit they put their money on the wrong horse and move on.

Now see, you are very misinformed. Palins show did not get cancelled. She only contracted to do 8 episodes and that was it. The episodes ended last night. They offered her to do more episodes and she declined. Quit your smear tactics on this fine patriotic woman and get your facts straight. Palin is not through. She is just getting started and she is not backing down to anybody, left or right.

After this weekends shootings, Palins political career is effectively over. The quitter will not recover from this one

 

[mdn2000]

She is all but over. Her stupid show got canceled, her book sales have tanked, and this tragedy has made her look even more foolish.

Conservatives would do well to admit they put their money on the wrong horse and move on.

Now see, you are very misinformed. Palins show did not get cancelled. She only contracted to do 8 episodes and that was it. The episodes ended last night. They offered her to do more episodes and she declined. Quit your smear tactics on this fine patriotic woman and get your facts straight. Palin is not through. She is just getting started and she is not backing down to anybody, left or right.

After this weekends shootings, Palins political career is effectively over. The quitter will not recover from this one

Sad, this shows the power of hate speech, lies, and how powerful the Liberals are. The Liberals can destroy any person they want. Its simple, they have all the power of the traditional television media.

We should run Palin, she would be a great President, I see no reason other than she is a Washington D.C. outsider.

Sounds like a breath of fresh air, too bad all the hot air destroyed a good person.

 

[Toro]

What is so difficult to understand?

Alaska gets most of it's money in the state budget from oil companies in the form of taxes. If the oil companies are doing well, Alaska collects more revenue. If the oil companies are doing poorly, Alaska collects less revenue.

Alaska then needs to decide what to do with the revenue. Oil companies at the time that Sarah Palin was elected were doing well. Therefore, the Alaska budget had a surplus at this time.

Palin was pressured to spend the money on whatever stuff legislatures piss money away on. Instead of doing that she gave a tax rebate to the people of Alaska.

That is a good thing.

I think its a good thing as well. I said in an earlier post that it is generally better for the government to give it to the people than to spend it.

But understand it for what it is - it is a transference of wealth from the profits of oil companies to everybody else. If it was anything else, then the taxes for the oil companies should go lower, not taxes from the oil companies going to Alaskans. It is no different than taxing the profits of Apple or Cisco and giving it directly to everybody else. The only difference is that it is oil rather than hardware or software.

Actually its very different, Oil is on state owned land, Oil companies lease the land and extract oil from public land. If Apple was harvesting computers from state owned land you would have made a point.

Semantics.

Raising taxes and raising the lease royalties has the same economic affect.

By your logic, Hugo Chavez nationalizing the oil industry is OK if he raises lease royalties from 50% to 99.9%.

 

[Richard-H]

In fact, Sarah Palin is America's secret weapon. It's true!

If Sarah gets elected President, America will take over the world! They know it!

'Cause if she gets elected everyone else in every other country in the world is going to DROP DEAD FROM LAUGHING SO HARD!

Then the world will be ours!

 

[NYcarbineer]

She is all but over. Her stupid show got canceled, her book sales have tanked, and this tragedy has made her look even more foolish.

Conservatives would do well to admit they put their money on the wrong horse and move on.

Now see, you are very misinformed. Palins show did not get cancelled. She only contracted to do 8 episodes and that was it. The episodes ended last night. They offered her to do more episodes and she declined. Quit your smear tactics on this fine patriotic woman and get your facts straight. Palin is not through. She is just getting started and she is not backing down to anybody, left or right.

lol, so I got 2 out of 3? lolol.

 

[mdn2000]

I think its a good thing as well. I said in an earlier post that it is generally better for the government to give it to the people than to spend it.

But understand it for what it is - it is a transference of wealth from the profits of oil companies to everybody else. If it was anything else, then the taxes for the oil companies should go lower, not taxes from the oil companies going to Alaskans. It is no different than taxing the profits of Apple or Cisco and giving it directly to everybody else. The only difference is that it is oil rather than hardware or software.

Actually its very different, Oil is on state owned land, Oil companies lease the land and extract oil from public land. If Apple was harvesting computers from state owned land you would have made a point.

Semantics.

Raising taxes and raising the lease royalties has the same economic affect.

By your logic, Hugo Chavez nationalizing the oil industry is OK if he raises lease royalties from 50% to 99.9%.

I was unaware that Apple was not building computers, they grow no trees in the state parks, right.

If it was a comparison between Apples and Oil you would have a point.

 

[mdn2000]

In fact, Sarah Palin is America's secret weapon. It's true!

If Sarah gets elected President, America will take over the world! They know it!

'Cause if she gets elected everyone else in every other country in the world is going to DROP DEAD FROM LAUGHING SO HARD!

Then the world will be ours!

They may, but how informed is the rest of the world. I know what some in Bulgaria say about Obama, they believe we are regressing to the state Bulgaria was in under Communist fools, the three Bulgarians I worked with all agreed. So I will take being laughed at instead of scorned for sliding closer towards Marxism.

 

[Toro]

Actually its very different, Oil is on state owned land, Oil companies lease the land and extract oil from public land. If Apple was harvesting computers from state owned land you would have made a point.

Semantics.

Raising taxes and raising the lease royalties has the same economic affect.

By your logic, Hugo Chavez nationalizing the oil industry is OK if he raises lease royalties from 50% to 99.9%.

I was unaware that Apple was not building computers, they grow no trees in the state parks, right.

If it was a comparison between Apples and Oil you would have a point.

Palin raised taxes on oil companies and used that money to give bigger checks to Alaskans. Full-stop. It doesn't matter if the land was leased or not.

That's very liberal of her.

 

[USArmyRetired]

Semantics.

Raising taxes and raising the lease royalties has the same economic affect.

By your logic, Hugo Chavez nationalizing the oil industry is OK if he raises lease royalties from 50% to 99.9%.

I was unaware that Apple was not building computers, they grow no trees in the state parks, right.

If it was a comparison between Apples and Oil you would have a point.

Palin raised taxes on oil companies and used that money to give bigger checks to Alaskans. Full-stop. It doesn't matter if the land was leased or not.

That's very liberal of her.

Palin went after oil companies and their corruptness in her state. What they have is called the Alaska Permanent Fund Dividend. Here is is. Look at the increases of money to their checks under Palin.

State of Alaska - Permanent Fund Dividend Division

Annual individual payout (in nominal dollars):[3]

Year Amount
2010 $1,281.00
2009 $1,305.00
2008 $2,069.00 + $1,200 Alaska Resource Rebate
2007 $1,654.00
2006 $1,106.96
2005 $845.76
2004 $919.84
2003 $1,107.56
2002 $1,540.76
2001 $1,850.28
2000 $1,963.86
1999 $1,769.84
1998 $1,540.88
1997 $1,296.54
1996 $1,130.68
1995 $990.30
1994 $983.90
1993 $949.46
1992 $915.84
1991 $931.34
1990 $952.63
1989 $873.16
1988 $826.93
1987 $708.19
1986 $556.26
1985 $404.00
1984 $331.29
1983 $386.15
1982 $1,000.00

 

[rightwinger]

As of today, the quitter could not even win election in Alaska again

Don't Retreat....Reload!

 

[Gadawg73]

She is all but over. Her stupid show got canceled, her book sales have tanked, and this tragedy has made her look even more foolish.

Conservatives would do well to admit they put their money on the wrong horse and move on.

Now see, you are very misinformed. Palins show did not get cancelled. She only contracted to do 8 episodes and that was it. The episodes ended last night. They offered her to do more episodes and she declined. Quit your smear tactics on this fine patriotic woman and get your facts straight. Palin is not through. She is just getting started and she is not backing down to anybody, left or right.

What makes Sarah Palin "a fine and patriotic woman"?
How is she more patriotic than Senator James Webb?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Gabrielle Giffords is now going to become a beloved national figure, and in contrast, Sarah Palin will now become, forever,

the anti-Gabrielle Giffords.

That's just how perceptions work.

 

[Mr Natural]

Gabrielle Giffords is now going to become a beloved national figure, and in contrast, Sarah Palin will now become, forever,

the anti-Gabrielle Giffords.

That's just how perceptions work.

And you know what they say, "Perception is reality."

 

[NYcarbineer]

I was unaware that Apple was not building computers, they grow no trees in the state parks, right.

If it was a comparison between Apples and Oil you would have a point.

Palin raised taxes on oil companies and used that money to give bigger checks to Alaskans. Full-stop. It doesn't matter if the land was leased or not.

That's very liberal of her.

Palin went after oil companies and their corruptness in her state. What they have is called the Alaska Permanent Fund Dividend. Here is is. Look at the increases of money to their checks under Palin.

State of Alaska - Permanent Fund Dividend Division

Annual individual payout (in nominal dollars):[3]

Year Amount
2010 $1,281.00
2009 $1,305.00
2008 $2,069.00 + $1,200 Alaska Resource Rebate
2007 $1,654.00
2006 $1,106.96
2005 $845.76
2004 $919.84
2003 $1,107.56
2002 $1,540.76
2001 $1,850.28
2000 $1,963.86
1999 $1,769.84
1998 $1,540.88
1997 $1,296.54
1996 $1,130.68
1995 $990.30
1994 $983.90
1993 $949.46
1992 $915.84
1991 $931.34
1990 $952.63
1989 $873.16
1988 $826.93
1987 $708.19
1986 $556.26
1985 $404.00
1984 $331.29
1983 $386.15
1982 $1,000.00

She imposed a windfall profits tax on oil. She did so by allying herself with Alaska Democrats,

and opposing the CONSERVATIVES in the Alaska legislature.

That's because in real life, before she fell victim to celebrity,

she was a PRAGMATIC MODERATE REPUBLICAN...

...aka a RINO.

Of course all of that changed after her selection for VP.

 

[VaYank5150]

She is all but over. Her stupid show got canceled, her book sales have tanked, and this tragedy has made her look even more foolish.

Conservatives would do well to admit they put their money on the wrong horse and move on.

Now see, you are very misinformed. Palins show did not get cancelled. She only contracted to do 8 episodes and that was it. The episodes ended last night. They offered her to do more episodes and she declined. Quit your smear tactics on this fine patriotic woman and get your facts straight. Palin is not through. She is just getting started and she is not backing down to anybody, left or right.

What makes Sarah Palin "a fine and patriotic woman"?
How is she more patriotic than Senator James Webb?

Because she can field dress a moose?