Richard Dawkins solicitor says that the Vatican is not a state

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    Richard Dawkins: I will arrest Pope Benedict XVI -Times Online

    Put aside all religious issues, and current scandals. I'm drilling it down to a sovereignty issue.

    The Vatican was there as a nation/state before the UN. You don't get to wipe it away with the stroke of a pen just 'cuz you don't like religion.

    If the Vatican was there first, perhaps they can disband the UN with a stroke of a pen as well?
     
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    The vatican has treaties with other countries. It issues ambassadors and has embassies.
    Its borders are just as policed as those between EU contries.

    Kind of a stretch by Mr Dawkins.
     
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    Richard Dawkins isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the room.

    The vatican has it's own military force. And they have no sovereignty? Bullcrap.
     
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    God, Dawkins is a sanctimonious prick.
     
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    It's army wears fancy dress, any legal violations are handled by Italy, it is entirely enclosed by the capital city of another state, its authority is just about nil. What's the point to it anyway?


    I have to agree when it comes arresting, Dawkins already had it done to him. Mentally.
     
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    According to accepted international law, Vatican City has been a sovereign state since the 6th century. Good luck, Mr. Dawkins.
     
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    Here's what pisses me off about Dawkins. It's not enough for him to simply be an athiest and let other believe as they want. He seems insistent on attacking people for their faith (I say that as a person that is not particularly religious).

    In that light, he's on par with the most fervent evangelicals.
     
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    I'm somewhere between an Atheist and an Agnostic, and I agree wholeheartedly.

    I think the same about Michael Moore - I agree with him on a lot of issues, but I intensely dislike him because he's an ASSHOLE.
     
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    That's it. The guy is an asshole. I take umbrage with his attempts to take science and discredit religion. Again, other side of the same coin as ID.

    If he want's to reach his own conclusions on the matter that is fine, but no scientific journal will accept a paper that "disproves God".

    That's why he gets to write books about it instead.
     
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    Exactly. And I get to not buy his books.
     

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