Sabra and Shatila: 30 Years Ago Today

[georgephillip]

I'm trying to tell you California's problem is fundamentally the same as 48 other US states.
Billion$ of tax payer dollar$ leave the state every year for Wall Street banks.
If those billion$ stay in California, tomorrow (and the day after) are all paid for.
This will never happen as long as California voters continue "choosing" between Democrat OR Republican in the voting booth.

 

[Hossfly]

I'm trying to tell you California's problem is fundamentally the same as 48 other US states.
Billion$ of tax payer dollar$ leave the state every year for Wall Street banks.
If those billion$ stay in California, tomorrow (and the day after) are all paid for.
This will never happen as long as California voters continue "choosing" between Democrat OR Republican in the voting booth.

Are you really trying to tell us, Georgie Boy, that the high pensions have nothing at all to do with the state being in trouble? Wasn't it a previous mayor of Los Angeles who was trying to work something out recently where the pensions wouldn't be so high in the future or that the workers will have to work longer than 20 years? I realize that because of your unfortunate circumstances, you have a thing against Wall Street, and so it is very easy for you to blame everything on them. However, don't you think the unions also are part of the problem asking for more and more when the city and state governments can't afford it. I wonder if Georgie would like to see someone run under the Communist Party banner so everyone will be equal and he will be able to live better.

 

[georgephillip]

Green Party banners make more sense to me:

"And who would have guessed that we would accept the pounding proclamations that giving mega-corporations and billionaires tax breaks – both in the tax structure and the tax audits – would increase jobs for everyone?

"That we would accept a situation where the average CEO takes in salary not seven times the average worker as they did a few decades ago, but 300-400 times the average worker. Earning in a day what their workers earn in a year.

"It’s time to change course. We’ve put our faith in the Republicans and Democrats, but the two Titanic Parties are heading straight for the iceberg, and not changing course. Bipartisanship is the game they play to keep the system in place."

The rich are the problem everywhere, Hossie,from California to Palestine.

Laura Wells For Governor

 

[Hossfly]

Green Party banners make more sense to me:

"And who would have guessed that we would accept the pounding proclamations that giving mega-corporations and billionaires tax breaks – both in the tax structure and the tax audits – would increase jobs for everyone?

"That we would accept a situation where the average CEO takes in salary not seven times the average worker as they did a few decades ago, but 300-400 times the average worker. Earning in a day what their workers earn in a year.

"It’s time to change course. We’ve put our faith in the Republicans and Democrats, but the two Titanic Parties are heading straight for the iceberg, and not changing course. Bipartisanship is the game they play to keep the system in place."

The rich are the problem everywhere, Hossie,from California to Palestine.

Laura Wells For Governor

Then you are not for Capitalism? Works for me. And real Americans.

 

[georgephillip]

Are most "real Americans" high rollers in our current version of "Casino Capitalism" or do you find the term "debt slave" a more suitable description for 99% of us?

"A new term, Casino Capitalism, was coined to describe the transformation that finance capitalism was undergoing in the post-1980 era of deregulation that opened the gates for banks to do what governments hitherto did in time of war: create money and new public debt simply by 'printing it' – in this case, electronically on their computer keyboards."

It is class war, Hossie, in spite of what your minders tell you.

America

 

[irosie91]

oh gee----a marxist

 

[georgephillip]

Stop being VULGAR (again.)

 

[Hossfly]

Are most "real Americans" high rollers in our current version of "Casino Capitalism" or do you find the term "debt slave" a more suitable description for 99% of us?

"A new term, Casino Capitalism, was coined to describe the transformation that finance capitalism was undergoing in the post-1980 era of deregulation that opened the gates for banks to do what governments hitherto did in time of war: create money and new public debt simply by 'printing it' – in this case, electronically on their computer keyboards."

It is class war, Hossie, in spite of what your minders tell you.

America

Been reading Ayn Rand again?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Are most "real Americans" high rollers in our current version of "Casino Capitalism" or do you find the term "debt slave" a more suitable description for 99% of us?

"A new term, Casino Capitalism, was coined to describe the transformation that finance capitalism was undergoing in the post-1980 era of deregulation that opened the gates for banks to do what governments hitherto did in time of war: create money and new public debt simply by 'printing it' – in this case, electronically on their computer keyboards."

It is class war, Hossie, in spite of what your minders tell you.

America

Been reading Ayn Rand again?

Speaking of Ayn Rand, Hank Rearden stated that part of his success was that he paid his employees well.

Funny nobody ever mentions that.

 

[docmauser1]

It's not the 47.7 million Americans currently receiving food stamps, compared to the 31.6 million who received food stamps in 2008.

And the establishment of the state of palistan will impeove it exactly how?

 

[georgephillip]

Are most "real Americans" high rollers in our current version of "Casino Capitalism" or do you find the term "debt slave" a more suitable description for 99% of us?

"A new term, Casino Capitalism, was coined to describe the transformation that finance capitalism was undergoing in the post-1980 era of deregulation that opened the gates for banks to do what governments hitherto did in time of war: create money and new public debt simply by 'printing it' – in this case, electronically on their computer keyboards."

It is class war, Hossie, in spite of what your minders tell you.

America

Been reading Ayn Rand again?

Who are the "takers" in this country, Hossie?

 

[Hossfly]

Are most "real Americans" high rollers in our current version of "Casino Capitalism" or do you find the term "debt slave" a more suitable description for 99% of us?

"A new term, Casino Capitalism, was coined to describe the transformation that finance capitalism was undergoing in the post-1980 era of deregulation that opened the gates for banks to do what governments hitherto did in time of war: create money and new public debt simply by 'printing it' – in this case, electronically on their computer keyboards."

It is class war, Hossie, in spite of what your minders tell you.

America

Been reading Ayn Rand again?

Speaking of Ayn Rand, Hank Rearden stated that part of his success was that he paid his employees well.

Funny nobody ever mentions that.

Why, Tinnie, don't you realize that all those who are receiving high pensions for the jobs they had in the government sectors are actually receiving the money from the taxpayers' pockets? No one is denying that there are many causes for states and cities hurting, but it would be foolish to overlook high pensions for people who had safe jobs and left after 20 years. Maybe in your state the taxpayers are not unhappy over this, but in Georgie Boy's state and city, the taxpayers can no longer afford to contribute to.

 

[georgephillip]

Hossie: How much money have taxpayers put in your pockets?

Since it's probably accurate to say that without government there would be no money of any significance, why do you object to paying those whose labor benefits the public good instead of the Koch brothers?

BTW, here's one very big reason for California's current budgetary shortfall:

"Proposition 13 (officially named the People's Initiative to Limit Property Taxation) was an amendment of the Constitution of California enacted during 1978, by means of the initiative process..."

The initiative helped many middle class home owners retain their homes while also allowing the richest 1% and the corporations they control to renege on their fair contribution to the very institution, government, that makes their private fortunes possible:

"Corporations often avoid reassessment by limiting portion of ownership by purchasing in groups where no single party owns more than 50%. For example: 'In 2002 ... wine barons E&J Gallo purchased 1,765 acres of vineyards in Napa and Sonoma from Louis M. Martini. But the deal avoided a reassessment, because 12 Gallo family members individually obtained minority interests."

California Proposition 13 (1978) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[docmauser1]

BTW, here's one very big reason for California's current budgetary shortfall:

Illegal aliens cost California $10.5 billion annually, of course.

 

[Hossfly]

Hossie: How much money have taxpayers put in your pockets?

Since it's probably accurate to say that without government there would be no money of any significance, why do you object to paying those whose labor benefits the public good instead of the Koch brothers?

BTW, here's one very big reason for California's current budgetary shortfall:

"Proposition 13 (officially named the People's Initiative to Limit Property Taxation) was an amendment of the Constitution of California enacted during 1978, by means of the initiative process..."

The initiative helped many middle class home owners retain their homes while also allowing the richest 1% and the corporations they control to renege on their fair contribution to the very institution, government, that makes their private fortunes possible:

"Corporations often avoid reassessment by limiting portion of ownership by purchasing in groups where no single party owns more than 50%. For example: 'In 2002 ... wine barons E&J Gallo purchased 1,765 acres of vineyards in Napa and Sonoma from Louis M. Martini. But the deal avoided a reassessment, because 12 Gallo family members individually obtained minority interests."

California Proposition 13 (1978) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Taxpayers have put nothing in Hossfly's pockets.
I spent 20 years in the Infantry, 3 years in combat.
I draw a pension from Uncle Sugar. An entitlement.
I worked 25 years in the private sector.
I have a 401K as a pension.
That's 45 years in the work force.
45 years I paid into Social Security and get a monthly check. An earned entitlement.
I am 100% disabled due to military service and draw an entitlement.
No government handouts or drain on taxpayers.
And BTW, I still pay Federal and State taxes.
Now what was your question, Deadbeat?

 

[georgephillip]

Taxpayers fund Uncle Sugar, right Killer?
My next question is whether your combat service was a net drain on US taxpayers?

 

[georgephillip]

BTW, here's one very big reason for California's current budgetary shortfall:

Illegal aliens cost California $10.5 billion annually, of course.

They've all gone back to Mexico, drivel.
The pay's better.
However, even when they were here, they weren't stealing my land or water, 'jew know what I mean?

 

[Hossfly]

Taxpayers fund Uncle Sugar, right Killer?
My next question is whether your combat service was a net drain on US taxpayers?

Piss Be Upon You, Hero.

 

[Hossfly]

Taxpayers fund Uncle Sugar, right Killer?
My next question is whether your combat service was a net drain on US taxpayers?

I think if Georgie Boy were more fortunate in life and also worked a little harder, he wouldn't be complaining all the time about others. No doubt he is jealous of those who are having a better retirement than he has. Be grateful, Georgie Boy, that your apartment is subsidized by the taxpayers in Los Angeles so that you are not out on the streets. By the way, I saw in another post where you have said that the Mexicans have gone back to Mexico. Many have gone back because of the recession but there are many still here. Check the Mexican markets and check the county hospitals in Los Angeles. You can ask them why they all haven't gone back to Mexico. Oh, by the way, you can also check out places like Home Depot and see them hanging outside waiting for a contractor to pick them up for a job. Isn't it strange that Georgie Boy, who is supposed to be an American citizen, keeps on calling members of the military killers, but he seems to have no problem with the Muslims killing people in the name of their religion. Before I forget, Georgie, HAPPY KWANZAA to you. I do hope you get out of your apartment to partake in some of the celebrations.

 

[georgephillip]

Of course many Mexicans are still here since they were here first; any brain-dead, inbred, retread hired killer knows that much. Maybe you should take some of that taxpayer supplied pension of yours and pay a visit to Vietnam. You could visit some of your victims who were deformed by Agent Orange and napalm; maybe you'll find your parade? I couldn't help noticing how you ducked the question about whether or not US taxpayers received a fair return on your "combat" service. I guess it's pretty hard to calculate the market value of murdered and maimed civilians, although I'm sure Henry Kissinger and the Rockefellers appreciated your "service." Happy Hanukkah, Hossie.