Ron Paul Question

Is he planning to run as a independant?

If not, what he is doing with all that money he raised.. I never see him anywhere but the debates..

Last I head him comment on it, he wouldn't give a definitive answer but said the chances he would run as an independent were "slim."
 
ron paul will run as a indpendent if he dosent win the nomination. unless the systems of control bring in bloomberg and nader to take enough of those votes to make victory impossible...just my opinion of course
 
ron paul will run as a indpendent if he dosent win the nomination. unless the systems of control bring in bloomberg and nader to take enough of those votes to make victory impossible...just my opinion of course

Not just yours. I think he might run as an Independent as well, although in statements I heard he said "that is not in the campaign strategy whatsoever, and I don't plan to do it." There's still a chance he will get the nomination, I understand he plans to crank up his campaign in critical times... in order to save money, instead of spending himself to death like the SIX OTHER REPUBLICANS that already dropped out.

Go Ron Paul, do it for America.
 
I'd think he'd run a third-party campaign. That's what stockpiling the money for since he, at least, if not his zealots, understands that he isn't ever going to get the nomination. (can't do that with 4 delegates, can he? though of course he'll get a few more).

He'd be the worst possible thing to happen to this country, not just because of himself, but because of the people who support him and who would be emboldened.
 
I'd think he'd run a third-party campaign. That's what stockpiling the money for since he, at least, if not his zealots, understands that he isn't ever going to get the nomination. (can't do that with 4 delegates, can he? though of course he'll get a few more).

He'd be the worst possible thing to happen to this country, not just because of himself, but because of the people who support him and who would be emboldened.

your taken a donation from one white supremacist and ignoring the legions of good and decent Americans that are the driving force of the Ron Paul campaign
 
I'd think he'd run a third-party campaign. That's what stockpiling the money for since he, at least, if not his zealots, understands that he isn't ever going to get the nomination. (can't do that with 4 delegates, can he? though of course he'll get a few more).

He'd be the worst possible thing to happen to this country, not just because of himself, but because of the people who support him and who would be emboldened.

I'll let Taozu handle this one:


True perfection seems imperfect,
yet it is perfectly itself.
True fullness seems empty,
yet it is fully present.

True straightness seems crooked.
True wisdom seems foolish.
True art seems artless.
-First Libertarian in history
 
I'll let Taozu handle this one:



-First Libertarian in history

Taozu? You mean Taoman? Sorry, he isn't really up to the task. I am entitled to my opinion, you know. Just because you hold yours' neither makes it mainstream or acceptable to others.

As for libertarian. I hold many libertarian views. I just have issues with the concept that government isn't supposed to do anything.

And, luckily, most people aren't quite willing to break everything apart and hope for the best.
 
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QUOTE=jillian;645195]Taozu? You mean Taoman? Sorry, he isn't really up to the task. I am entitled to my opinion, you know. Just because you hold yours' neither makes it mainstream or acceptable to others.

As for libertarian. I hold many libertarian views. I just have issues with the concept that government isn't supposed to do anything.

TRANSLATION;I have issues in not continuing the blind allegiance to israel


And, luckily, most people aren't quite willing to break everything apart and hope for the best.[/
QUOTE]
 
Taozu? You mean Taoman? Sorry, he isn't really up to the task. I am entitled to my opinion, you know. Just because you hold yours' neither makes it mainstream or acceptable to others.

Wrong. Mainstream is not a synonym for acceptable. Acceptable means believable... so mainstream is disqualified.


As for libertarian. I hold many libertarian views. I just have issues with the concept that government isn't supposed to do anything.

Ron Paul wants the government to defend our borders, ensure the welfare of its CITIZENS, and protect a free market economy. Inform yourself, please. I mean enough with the blatant disregard for the truth. In no way does he advocate "no government." He advocates "limited and effective government."

And, luckily, most people aren't quite willing to break everything apart and hope for the best.

Sounds like what the colonists did when Britain tried to take away the continental currency.
 
Wrong. Mainstream is not a synonym for acceptable. Acceptable means believable... so mainstream is disqualified.




Ron Paul wants the government to defend our borders, ensure the welfare of its CITIZENS, and protect a free market economy. Inform yourself, please. I mean enough with the blatant disregard for the truth. In no way does he advocate "no government." He advocates "limited and effective government."



Sounds like what the colonists did when Britain tried to take away the continental currency.

Not wrong.Right. Only wrong in your opinion, which I disagree with. And, I'd say in order to win the presidency someone has to be mainstream or no one is going to vote for him, hence the 4 delegates, not second place as you misrepresented. So much for truth, eh?

Inform myself? Thought we've been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I'd suggest that someone who misrepresents his candidate's position as well as pov really needs to inform *himself*.

Oh...must be it re the continental currency. Couldn't possibly be because I don't think Federal oversight agencies should be disbanded, don't think the government should end its involvement with schools, don't think we should close our eyes to the need for world involvement, don't think we should leave Israel to the vipers, don't think the EEOC should be disbanded, along with OSHA and every other oversight agency.

Nah...couldn't be any of those things. :rolleyes:

Now, tell me, why do *you* think white supremacists love him? What aspects of his policies suit their agenda? And while we're at it, why does he go speak with them all comfy cozy and keep their money?

I'll wait.
 
Not wrong.Right. Only wrong in your opinion, which I disagree with. And, I'd say in order to win the presidency someone has to be mainstream or no one is going to vote for him, hence the 4 delegates, not second place as you misrepresented. So much for truth, eh?

Inform myself? Thought we've been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I'd suggest that someone who misrepresents his candidate's position as well as pov really needs to inform *himself*.

Oh...must be it re the continental currency. Couldn't possibly be because I don't think Federal oversight agencies should be disbanded, don't think the government should end its involvement with schools, don't think we should close our eyes to the need for world involvement, don't think we should leave Israel to the vipers, don't think the EEOC should be disbanded, along with OSHA and every other oversight agency.

Nah...couldn't be any of those things. :rolleyes:

Now, tell me, why do *you* think white supremacists love him? What aspects of his policies suit their agenda? And while we're at it, why does he go speak with them all comfy cozy and keep their money?

I'll wait.

Do us all a favor jill, and please source your claim that he "goes and speaks with" white supremecists "all comfy cozy".

You might want to make sure it's not sourced from a blogger, or quoted from an actual white supremecist themself. Those aren't exactly considered the most credible of sources these days, you know?
 
Not just yours. I think he might run as an Independent as well, although in statements I heard he said "that is not in the campaign strategy whatsoever, and I don't plan to do it." There's still a chance he will get the nomination, I understand he plans to crank up his campaign in critical times... in order to save money, instead of spending himself to death like the SIX OTHER REPUBLICANS that already dropped out.

Go Ron Paul, do it for America.

He might well do it. There's not a chance he'll get the GOP nomination.

Only thing is, even if he runs as an independent there's not a chance he'll win. The citizenry, at least those who tend to vote, are too tied to their "team" in the two-party system. Most of them will vote DEM or GOP regardless of who their nominee is and won't consider a third party. The People aren't ready for it yet, despite the fact that both parties are corrupt and neither has the interests of the people at heart.
 
He might well do it. There's not a chance he'll get the GOP nomination.

Only thing is, even if he runs as an independent there's not a chance he'll win. The citizenry, at least those who tend to vote, are too tied to their "team" in the two-party system. Most of them will vote DEM or GOP regardless of who their nominee is and won't consider a third party. The People aren't ready for it yet, despite the fact that both parties are corrupt and neither has the interests of the people at heart.

You have to understand something. McCain is almost broke. He's taking 8.8 million in public matching funds just to avoid bankruptcy. Not only is that our tax money, it's also an indication of how fiscally irresponsible he'd be if he were the president. He'll never be around all the way until the convention.

The media is already starting to ignore Huckabee, as was definitely indicated in last night's debate. He'll be gone soon as well. He's as broke as any of the others, and his supporters just don't care enough to fundraise for him the way RP supporters do.

RP is holding his money until the rest of the fiscally irresponsible candidates are shoved out of the race, and it will be between him and Romney at the convention. Where will all those Huckabee and McCain delegates go? They will be free to vote their conscience. HMMMMM.

I say this race is just getting STARTED. RP will be well funded for as long as he needs to be.

Don't count liberty out just yet.
 
You have to understand something. McCain is almost broke. He's taking 8.8 million in public matching funds just to avoid bankruptcy. Not only is that our tax money, it's also an indication of how fiscally irresponsible he'd be if he were the president. He'll never be around all the way until the convention.

The media is already starting to ignore Huckabee, as was definitely indicated in last night's debate. He'll be gone soon as well. He's as broke as any of the others, and his supporters just don't care enough to fundraise for him the way RP supporters do.

RP is holding his money until the rest of the fiscally irresponsible candidates are shoved out of the race, and it will be between him and Romney at the convention. Where will all those Huckabee and McCain delegates go? They will be free to vote their conscience. HMMMMM.

I say this race is just getting STARTED. RP will be well funded for as long as he needs to be.

Don't count liberty out just yet.

You have a hell of a lot more faith in the American people than I do. Once the two main parties get their nominees, funding won't be an issue. If McCain does well on super Tuesday, funding for him won't be a problem for long, I suspect.

The American people are not ready to leave their two-party system. I don't see it happening at the Presidential level in the near future, though if good third party candidates get into other levels of federal office who knows.

I think you'll agree the chances of Paul getting the nomination are slim to none. Do you really think enough GOPers will decide not to vote for the nominee to put Paul in as a 3d party? I don't.
 
By the way Paulitics, McCain has raised over $7 million just in January as a result of his boosted numbers. He does well next week and he'll raise even more in Feb.
 
You have a hell of a lot more faith in the American people than I do. Once the two main parties get their nominees, funding won't be an issue. If McCain does well on super Tuesday, funding for him won't be a problem for long, I suspect.

The American people are not ready to leave their two-party system. I don't see it happening at the Presidential level in the near future, though if good third party candidates get into other levels of federal office who knows.

I think you'll agree the chances of Paul getting the nomination are slim to none. Do you really think enough GOPers will decide not to vote for the nominee to put Paul in as a 3d party? I don't.

I'm not talking about 3rd party. If McCain runs away with delegates on Super Tuesday, then Romney will drop, and it will be McCain vs. Paul during some of the worst times economically in a long time. McCain has no CLUE how to repair this nation's economic problems. His "friends" he always refers to are the same people who have been advising past presidents on economics for YEARS. Pete Peterson, to name one really notable person.

No matter what, it's going to be down to 2 people in the convention. Someone vs. Ron Paul.

The man knows how to win elections, and he knows how to finance them. The others are spending money the way they undoubtedly will as president.

It's not so much about trusting the American public, as much as it is trusting fate, so to speak.

I'll close by saying this, though...The American public deserves whatever crap they get if they choose to ignore the advice of RP, and instead elect a socialist. That's what they all are anyway, socialists. Even the Republicans. They don't cut government anymore, they don't reduce spending. There's no such thing as fiscal responsibility anymore. Not in this "post 9/11 world".
 
By the way Paulitics, McCain has raised over $7 million just in January as a result of his boosted numbers. He does well next week and he'll raise even more in Feb.

He was 1.5 million in the red, at the end of the year, from a 3 million dollar loan he took out in November.

So call that amount of money 5.5, not 7. Not a whole hell of a lot, especially since I'm sure he's probably already spent that. He gets money mostly from people who have enough to have already maxed out on campaign contributions.

You could be right, you could be wrong. RP's supporters can rival McCain's funds any day and night. 50% of his donors on a daily basis are new donors. Just food for thought.

I'm humble about RP's chances. I don't EXPECT him to get the nomination, but I trust that he knows exactly how to play this game. He hasn't been elected to his same seat for 30 years for nothing. He knows how to finance and budget a campaign better than the others.

what you should be most concerned about, is how irresponsible the others are regarding their campaign spending. That's the same way they'll be spending in the oval office. They have records to prove that, too.
 
Not wrong.Right. Only wrong in your opinion, which I disagree with. And, I'd say in order to win the presidency someone has to be mainstream or no one is going to vote for him, hence the 4 delegates, not second place as you misrepresented. So much for truth, eh?

I've already talked about the vast media censorship and negative press Ron Paul has received. And don't even get me started about DieBold machines, they are about as reliable as a toaster at the bottom of the sea.

Inform myself? Thought we've been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I'd suggest that someone who misrepresents his candidate's position as well as pov really needs to inform *himself*.

Oh...must be it re the continental currency. Couldn't possibly be because I don't think Federal oversight agencies should be disbanded, don't think the government should end its involvement with schools, don't think we should close our eyes to the need for world involvement, don't think we should leave Israel to the vipers, don't think the EEOC should be disbanded, along with OSHA and every other oversight agency.

Federal oversight agencies: wasting your tax money.
Since government involvement in schooling (aka DOE) the price of education has skyrocketed, while quality has been on a steady decline.
America's need to meddle in other countries' affairs must end, lest it be destroyed by a world who hates her.

Nah...couldn't be any of those things. :rolleyes:

Now, tell me, why do *you* think white supremacists love him? What aspects of his policies suit their agenda? And while we're at it, why does he go speak with them all comfy cozy and keep their money?

Please show me where you read that Ron Paul is a racist, or that all white supremacists love him. I'd be very interested to see that.

I'll wait, citizen.
 

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