Happy with the canadites?

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  1. steeliniraq
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    This is just a question I want to ask everyone on this board. Are you happy with the people running for the nominations in each party?

    Honestly I feel most of them are out of touch with what most of us want. Both sides are so concerned about their parties views and points that I don't think they represent most of Americans who are somewhere in the middle. Just wondering what you all think.
     
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    midcan5 liberal / progressive

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    My first choice is gone, but let me ask the question? What do we want? A free society where everyone can participate in the American dream without fear an illness or loss of job will ruin this prospect? The end of a sectarian involvement in a foreign country that is costing American lives? A more level playing field in which every child has access to the best education possible? Foreign aid that helps people live their lives and not fear for them? A better means to solve immigration so that those who contribute to our society pay for it too? Job training and a return to making things here? A literate electorate that gets beyond the spin and says this really matters?

    What do we want?
     
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    I really see no one candidate that's worth their weight on a shit scale at this point......................maybe if they'd complete the packages for us, could I feel better on this??????????:eusa_whistle:
     
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    We want Ron Paul..?
     
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    Yes, for the most part I am. I am a Democrat and I have liked what I have seen from the Democratic candidates. Both are obviously intelligent and well versed on the issues. They advocate many things I believe in: encompassing health care proposals, a shift to a more progressive tax regime, renewed focus on civil liberties, a focus on extricating ourselves from Iraq, etc. I recognize that a lot of what they say has to be taken with a grain of salt as it is election season, but I think that they will attempt to advance these issues as President. I lean towards Obama and was chilly to Clinton initially, but I have to admit that she has calmed some of my apprehensions through her fine performances in the debates.

    I even feel okay about the Republican candidates, even though I would never vote for either one of them. I respect John McCain for his willingness to stand on issues that he believes in, even when there is a political cost involved. I knew very little about Mitt Romney prior to the campaign, but he is very impressive in the debates, and it is clear that he has a very good grasp of the economic issues and is a very intelligent and pragmatic man. Having watched the last debate though, I think Romney was far more impressive than McCain, who at times looked confused. I wonder if the Republicans aren't betting on the wrong horse this time around.

    Overall, I would be very happy with an Obama presidency, and moderately happy with Clinton, and I wouldn't be too alarmed (as I was with Bush) over a McCain or Romney presidency. I think the options are better this time around than the last election.
     
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    Consider that this is the first presidential election where healthcare is actually considered and debated. I know some will call this socialism but like all progress it comes gradually in small increments. And I sorta agree none of the candidates are as bad as Bush.
     
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    Up to this point in the primary races, the majority of the voters seem to be putting their trust in familiar names/faces rather than taking a chance on "unknowns" who would look at our major problems through a fresh set of eyes. After Super Tuesday, I'm betting that Clinton and McCain stand at the top of the heap.
     
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    Obama '08 thank you very much. "Yes We Can" :clap2: :razz: :rofl: :rolleyes: :cool: :eusa_drool: :clap2:
     
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    Yep and when that heap gets too high it'll be time to shovel it and pile it somewhere else..................:eusa_whistle:
     
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    I think everyone wants what you just listed. Some people have different ideas of how to GET there, though. What I do know is, right now, we can't afford to do it the way we're doing it right now. We're going to ironically bankrupt ourselves trying to FIX ourselves.

    The wrong answer to anything right now, is print, borrow, and spend. Empires historically collapse that way. Right now, the whole country needs to sacrifice some suckling of the proverbial teet, get the fuck up off the couch, and stop letting government take care of everything for them. This government has gotten way too big for it's britches, and it's at the point now where it takes care of self, before the American people.

    We need to take our country back, and that isn't going to happen by electing the establishment backed candidates to all the offices in government. Those candidates are backed by the establishment for a REASON.
     

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