Roman Emperor was transgender

[CuleokaBob]

Here is some good information on sex vs. gender.

Bob Blaylock
The old definition of gender as defined in The Oxford Etymological Dictionary of the English Language of 1882 defined gender as kind, breed, sex, derived from the Latin ablative case of genus, like genere natus, which refers to birth.

When did gender identity start?
1960s

Cisgender, non-binary, gender-fluidity — it seems that every day, we're hearing about more and more about aspects related to gender identity. Gender identity as a concept was popularized by John Money in the 1960s

Bob, I was correct. You are stuck in the 50's.

A Guide To Gender Identity Terms

How do I make sure I use the right pronouns for someone? And what if I mess up? Language can change quickly. Here's a guide to talking gender in its beautiful complexity.

www.npr.org

Gender Identity: Definitions, Development of Gender Identity - Usual Patterns, Development of Gender Identity - Differences in sex development (DSD)

Gender identity and gender role Gender identity is defined as a personal conception of oneself as male or female (or rarely, both or neither). This concept is intimately related to the concept of gender role, which is defined as the outward manifestations of personality that reflect the gender...

emedicine.medscape.com

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Here is some good information on sex vs. gender.

Bob Blaylock
The old definition of gender as defined in The Oxford Etymological Dictionary of the English Language of 1882 defined gender as kind, breed, sex, derived from the Latin ablative case of genus, like genere natus, which refers to birth.

When did gender identity start?
1960s

Cisgender, non-binary, gender-fluidity — it seems that every day, we're hearing about more and more about aspects related to gender identity. Gender identity as a concept was popularized by John Money in the 1960s

Bob, I was correct. You are stuck in the 50's.

A Guide To Gender Identity Terms

How do I make sure I use the right pronouns for someone? And what if I mess up? Language can change quickly. Here's a guide to talking gender in its beautiful complexity.

www.npr.org

Corruption the language cannot change the underlying reality that the language is used to try to describe. You're parroting Orwell's theory as described under the heading of “Newspeak”, wherein he described a system of selectively corrupting language to control what people were able to express, and ultimately what they were able to think. I don't think that even Orwell imagined, as you are trying to argue, that the underlying reality could be changed, by simply changing the use of language to describe it.

No matter how horrendously you try to corrupt the language, a man will never be a woman, and a woman will never be a man, and the difference between them will never be any less important.

 

[CuleokaBob]

Corruption the language cannot change the underlying reality that the language is used to try to describe. You're parroting Orwell's theory as described under the heading of “Newspeak”, wherein he described a system of selectively corrupting language to control what people were able to express, and ultimately what they were able to think. I don't think that even Orwell imagined, as you are trying to argue, that the underlying reality could be changed, by simply changing the use of language to describe it.

No matter how horrendously you try to corrupt the language, a man will never be a woman, and a woman will never be a man, and the difference between them will never be any less important.

I never claimed a man would be a woman or a woman would be a man. I know the difference.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I never claimed a man would be a woman or a woman would be a man. I know the difference.

So, is Bruce Jenner a man, or is he a woman?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I am a geriatrigender.

It isn't nearly as much fun as when I was a pubergender. .

 

[sparky]

No matter how horrendously you try to corrupt the language, a man will never be a woman, and a woman will never be a man, and the difference between them will never be any less important.

Truth is treason in an empire of lies Bobby

Yet i applaud those like yourself , for speaking it

~S~

 

[CuleokaBob]

So, is Bruce Jenner a man, or is he a woman?

Bob
Females have 2 X chromosomes. Males have 1 X and 1 Y

Bruce Jenner is a biological male (1 X and 1 Y)
Caitlyn Jenner is a biological male (1 X and 1 Y)
Bob.. you can't change chromosomes.
Bob, no matter how you chop it, slice it, add, subtract, Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner will always be a biological male.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Bob
Females have 2 X chromosomes. Males have 1 X and 1 Y

Bruce Jenner is a biological male (1 X and 1 Y)
Caitlyn Jenner is a biological male (1 X and 1 Y)
Bob.. you can't change chromosomes.
Bob, no matter how you chop it, slice it, add, subtract, Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner will always be a biological male.

In other words, he's a man, and not, in any rational sense, a woman.

 

[CuleokaBob]

In other words, he's a man, and not, in any rational sense, a woman.

Bob, he is a biological male.
Rational people make decisions based on intelligent thinking rather than on emotion.
Let's leave it at that.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Bob, he is a biological male.
Rational people make decisions based on intelligent thinking rather than on emotion.
Let's leave it at that.

Are we in agreement, then, that everything he believes, everything that he has had done to him notwithstanding, that Bruce Jenner is a man, and not, a woman?

 

[CuleokaBob]

Are we in agreement, then, that everything he believes, everything that he has had done to him notwithstanding, that Bruce Jenner is a man, and not, a woman?

Bob, I don't know what she believes. On September 2015, her name was legally changed to Caitlyn Marie Jenner and her gender to female.
Bob, that is an adult human male, a man.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Bob, I don't know what she believes. On September 2015, her name was legally changed to Caitlyn Marie Jenner and her gender to female.
Bob, that is an adult human male, a man.

I do not have to know what someone believes, in order to know whether that person is a man or a woman. Neither does any other sane person.

As a matter of undebatable scientific fact, Bruce Jenner is a man, and not, in any rational sense, a woman. Changing his name to a feminine name does not change that. Wearing women's clothing doe snot change that. Even having his body mutilated in a vain attempt to make it look like that of a woman, does not change that.

He is, has always been, and will always be, male, and not female. To address him as female, using female pronouns, only proves that you are almost as fucked in the head as he is. Any sane person knows that HE is a HE, and not any kind of a “she”.

 

[CuleokaBob]

I do not have to know what someone believes, in order to know whether that person is a man or a woman. Neither does any other sane person.

As a matter of undebatable scientific fact, Bruce Jenner is a man, and not, in any rational sense, a woman. Changing his name to a feminine name does not change that. Wearing women's clothing doe snot change that. Even having his body mutilated in a vain attempt to make it look like that of a woman, does not change that.

He is, has always been, and will always be, male, and not female. To address him as female, using female pronouns, only proves that you are almost as fucked in the head as he is. Any sane person knows that HE is a HE, and not any kind of a “she”.

Bob, be civil.
Bob, Caitlyn is transgendered, she is a person whose gender identity is opposite (rather than different from) the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Bob, be civil.
Bob, Caitlyn is transgendered, she is a person whose gender identity is opposite (rather than different from) the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth.

He's a mentally-diseased MAN, not any kind of “she”.

 

[CuleokaBob]

He's a mentally-diseased MAN, not any kind of “she”.

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Bob,
That is Caitlyn Jenner on the 2015 box.