Riddle Me This....

no, she didn't lie, NOR HAS IT BEEN PROVEN...

she would be charged with perjuy, THEN TRIED where she is allowed to defend herself in front of a jury or judge, her choosing, BEFORE you can ever make that claim.

Trey Goudy's little quirp with comey in the hearing, would never in a million years hold up in court....

1, classified markings were NOT on the 3 emails, only ''partial markings'', no CLASSIFIED markings at the top of the 3, with no classified numerical markings, or date classified at the top either....

There is no way from here to high heaven, anyone could be charged with perjury when they did not knowingly lie...

and

2, those 3 emails with partial markings in the context, were not classified emails at all and the tiny partial markings were a mistake.

NO ONE can even charge her with perjury over that, let alone get a conviction...

trey goudy got his video for an ad though....that's all it was...a video opportunity....showmanship...to FOOL people just like you!
The "smartest woman in the world" didn't know what information that she was dealing with was classified?. You really want to run with that?

1) She testified, under oath, that she only used one device. The FBI investigation proved differently.

2) She testified, under oath, that no work related emails were deleted. The FBI investigation proved differently.

3) She testified, under oath, that no emails marked classified were emailed. The FBI investigation proved differently.

That is at least three counts of perjury.

Now, I have no brief for Trey Gowdy. He has shown himself to be a gutless eunuch, who is all bark. Even so, the evidence of perjury is right there in the public record. All one needs to do is take off the partisan blinders to see it.

AnCap'n_Murica, you have absolutely no clue what it takes to meet the legal definition of 'perjury' and it is a legal term. You have also misrepresented things in order to make partisan attacks:


Comey >> "Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case."

"no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case"


Congressman >> IN YOUR OPINION, DO THE MISTAKES SECRETARY CLINTON HAS ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR AND EXPRESSED REGRET FOR RISE TO A LEVEL THAT WOULD BE WORTHY OF FEDERAL PROSECUTION?

Comey >> AS I SAID TUESDAY, OUR JUDGMENT, NOT JUST MINE, BUT THE TEAM'S JUDGMENT AT THE FBI IS THAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WOULD NOT BRING SUCH A CASE. NO JUSTICE DEPARTMENT UNDER ANY RATHER REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT ADMINISTRATION.

Comey>>> I should add here that we found no evidence that any of the additional work-related e-mails were intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them. Our assessment is that, like many e-mail users, Secretary Clinton periodically deleted e-mails or e-mails were purged from the system when devices were changed. Because she was not using a government account—or even a commercial account like Gmail—there was no archiving at all of her e-mails, so it is not surprising that we discovered e-mails that were not on Secretary Clinton’s system in 2014, when she produced the 30,000 e-mails to the State Department.

Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information.

With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked.


Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.

In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.

As a result, although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.

I know there will be intense public debate in the wake of this recommendation, as there was throughout this investigation. What I can assure the American people is that this investigation was done competently, honestly, and independently. No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear.

I know there were many opinions expressed by people who were not part of the investigation—including people in government—but none of that mattered to us. Opinions are irrelevant, and they were all uninformed by insight into our investigation, because we did the investigation the right way. Only facts matter, and the FBI found them here in an entirely apolitical and professional way. I couldn't be prouder to be part of this organization.
 
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no, she didn't lie, NOR HAS IT BEEN PROVEN...

she would be charged with perjuy, THEN TRIED where she is allowed to defend herself in front of a jury or judge, her choosing, BEFORE you can ever make that claim.

Trey Goudy's little quirp with comey in the hearing, would never in a million years hold up in court....

1, classified markings were NOT on the 3 emails, only ''partial markings'', no CLASSIFIED markings at the top of the 3, with no classified numerical markings, or date classified at the top either....

There is no way from here to high heaven, anyone could be charged with perjury when they did not knowingly lie...

and

2, those 3 emails with partial markings in the context, were not classified emails at all and the tiny partial markings were a mistake.

NO ONE can even charge her with perjury over that, let alone get a conviction...

trey goudy got his video for an ad though....that's all it was...a video opportunity....showmanship...to FOOL people just like you!
The "smartest woman in the world" didn't know what information that she was dealing with was classified?. You really want to run with that?

1) She testified, under oath, that she only used one device. The FBI investigation proved differently.

2) She testified, under oath, that no work related emails were deleted. The FBI investigation proved differently.

3) She testified, under oath, that no emails marked classified were emailed. The FBI investigation proved differently.

That is at least three counts of perjury.

Now, I have no brief for Trey Gowdy. He has shown himself to be a gutless eunuch, who is all bark. Even so, the evidence of perjury is right there in the public record. All one needs to do is take off the partisan blinders to see it.
You may want to stay away from those sites you are reading to come to those conclusions of yours! :eek:

And on your #1

1. she testified under oath that she only used one device, meaning her one Blackberry, she carries only one device with her and does not carry two devices.

What Comey spoke about when questioned by Gowdy whether she had more than one device, and he said yes, was that she had more than one SEVER over the 4 years she used her own email address, no multiple servers were running during the same period of time, just that they upgraded their servers over time, but using only one at a time...

She did not use two Blackberries at the same time...That is NOT AT ALL what Comey was testifying to and anyone that is laying it out that way to you is a Deceiver!!!

And that's why she told the public early on for the reason she set up her own server, she didn't want to carry two devices, one for her personal stuff and one for work...we all thought she was nuts and extremely a novice at best when it came to any kind of device or computers...

so the whole reason the congress critters questioned her on that in their hearing back in October was because she had told the Public, she did not want to have to carry two devices (Blackberries/phones) at the same time to keep her personal emails and texts, separate from her govt work...

So she did not lie before Congress, and comey did not say she lied about carrying more than one device, comey was simply speaking about there being more than one server....you can read it in the text of the hearing with him...

and he spoke of why some email files were incomplete due to the upgrades/transfers to new servers...that nothing was deleted intentionally...

Read what Dante Posted above to inform yourself on your other numbered statements.
 
You may want to stay away from those sites you are reading to come to those conclusions of yours! :eek:

And on your #1

1. she testified under oath that she only used one device, meaning her one Blackberry, she carries only one device with her and does not carry two devices.

What Comey spoke about when questioned by Gowdy whether she had more than one device, and he said yes, was that she had more than one SEVER over the 4 years she used her own email address, no multiple servers were running during the same period of time, just that they upgraded their servers over time, but using only one at a time...

She did not use two Blackberries at the same time...That is NOT AT ALL what Comey was testifying to and anyone that is laying it out that way to you is a Deceiver!!!

And that's why she told the public early on for the reason she set up her own server, she didn't want to carry two devices, one for her personal stuff and one for work...we all thought she was nuts and extremely a novice at best when it came to any kind of device or computers...

so the whole reason the congress critters questioned her on that in their hearing back in October was because she had told the Public, she did not want to have to carry two devices (Blackberries/phones) at the same time to keep her personal emails and texts, separate from her govt work...

So she did not lie before Congress, and comey did not say she lied about carrying more than one device, comey was simply speaking about there being more than one server....you can read it in the text of the hearing with him...

and he spoke of why some email files were incomplete due to the upgrades/transfers to new servers...that nothing was deleted intentionally...

Read what Dante Posted above to inform yourself on your other numbered statements.

Then she lied under oath, which is perjury. Period.
 
Believe it or not this is a serious question so please save your nasty ass responses for the FZ......

If Hillary & Trump are BOTH either indicted, found unfit for office, or whatever comes to mind to fill in the blank before November........what then happens to the Presidential race? Does that just mean Johnson wins uncontested? Or does each party find suitable replacements?
Given that until the election the party leadership is still in charge, I would suspect an emergency convening and the selection of the next fit man or woman in the primary races of record. That's why when the others 'end' their campaigns they actually suspend them, not usually end them. Kasich, Rubio, Cruz, even Christie all suspended; so they're still in the running.

FYI on delegates and "next in line" for the GOP: Cruz would technically be next. But because he was born in Canada with a Canadian birth certificate and only renounced citizenship in 2014, it would be illegal for him to run for president. There's even a question that he and his father entered our country illegally. Way too much fodder for controversy. Next after Cruz is Kasich, then Rubio, then..I forget..

I think that's also why Sanders didn't donate his delegates to Hillary. He's holding out hope that the DNC will be forced to nominate him if Hillary falters.
 
You may want to stay away from those sites you are reading to come to those conclusions of yours! :eek:

And on your #1

1. she testified under oath that she only used one device, meaning her one Blackberry, she carries only one device with her and does not carry two devices.

What Comey spoke about when questioned by Gowdy whether she had more than one device, and he said yes, was that she had more than one SEVER over the 4 years she used her own email address, no multiple servers were running during the same period of time, just that they upgraded their servers over time, but using only one at a time...

She did not use two Blackberries at the same time...That is NOT AT ALL what Comey was testifying to and anyone that is laying it out that way to you is a Deceiver!!!

And that's why she told the public early on for the reason she set up her own server, she didn't want to carry two devices, one for her personal stuff and one for work...we all thought she was nuts and extremely a novice at best when it came to any kind of device or computers...

so the whole reason the congress critters questioned her on that in their hearing back in October was because she had told the Public, she did not want to have to carry two devices (Blackberries/phones) at the same time to keep her personal emails and texts, separate from her govt work...

So she did not lie before Congress, and comey did not say she lied about carrying more than one device, comey was simply speaking about there being more than one server....you can read it in the text of the hearing with him...

and he spoke of why some email files were incomplete due to the upgrades/transfers to new servers...that nothing was deleted intentionally...

Read what Dante Posted above to inform yourself on your other numbered statements.

Then she lied under oath, which is perjury. Period.
Period? I'm surprised you can even spell 'perjury' without having to look it up, let alone read and comprehend the meaning of the definition.
 
Period? I'm surprised you can even spell 'perjury' without having to look it up, let alone read and comprehend the meaning of the definition.
I know it's really original and everything to argue and call names anonymously on the internet. But the OP did say he wanted no BS in this thread and actual real answers to his questions about how things work if both candidates crap out before the election. There's plenty of other threads to fight in about the issues you guys are raising.
 
You may want to stay away from those sites you are reading to come to those conclusions of yours! :eek:

And on your #1

1. she testified under oath that she only used one device, meaning her one Blackberry, she carries only one device with her and does not carry two devices.

What Comey spoke about when questioned by Gowdy whether she had more than one device, and he said yes, was that she had more than one SEVER over the 4 years she used her own email address, no multiple servers were running during the same period of time, just that they upgraded their servers over time, but using only one at a time...

She did not use two Blackberries at the same time...That is NOT AT ALL what Comey was testifying to and anyone that is laying it out that way to you is a Deceiver!!!

And that's why she told the public early on for the reason she set up her own server, she didn't want to carry two devices, one for her personal stuff and one for work...we all thought she was nuts and extremely a novice at best when it came to any kind of device or computers...

so the whole reason the congress critters questioned her on that in their hearing back in October was because she had told the Public, she did not want to have to carry two devices (Blackberries/phones) at the same time to keep her personal emails and texts, separate from her govt work...

So she did not lie before Congress, and comey did not say she lied about carrying more than one device, comey was simply speaking about there being more than one server....you can read it in the text of the hearing with him...

and he spoke of why some email files were incomplete due to the upgrades/transfers to new servers...that nothing was deleted intentionally...

Read what Dante Posted above to inform yourself on your other numbered statements.

Then she lied under oath, which is perjury. Period.
You may want to stay away from those sites you are reading to come to those conclusions of yours! :eek:

And on your #1

1. she testified under oath that she only used one device, meaning her one Blackberry, she carries only one device with her and does not carry two devices.

What Comey spoke about when questioned by Gowdy whether she had more than one device, and he said yes, was that she had more than one SEVER over the 4 years she used her own email address, no multiple servers were running during the same period of time, just that they upgraded their servers over time, but using only one at a time...

She did not use two Blackberries at the same time...That is NOT AT ALL what Comey was testifying to and anyone that is laying it out that way to you is a Deceiver!!!

And that's why she told the public early on for the reason she set up her own server, she didn't want to carry two devices, one for her personal stuff and one for work...we all thought she was nuts and extremely a novice at best when it came to any kind of device or computers...

so the whole reason the congress critters questioned her on that in their hearing back in October was because she had told the Public, she did not want to have to carry two devices (Blackberries/phones) at the same time to keep her personal emails and texts, separate from her govt work...

So she did not lie before Congress, and comey did not say she lied about carrying more than one device, comey was simply speaking about there being more than one server....you can read it in the text of the hearing with him...

and he spoke of why some email files were incomplete due to the upgrades/transfers to new servers...that nothing was deleted intentionally...

Read what Dante Posted above to inform yourself on your other numbered statements.

Then she lied under oath, which is perjury. Period.
:rofl::rofl:

Don't be ridiculous!!

May I suggest you look up the legal definition of perjury...before you post again on the topic.
 
Period? I'm surprised you can even spell 'perjury' without having to look it up, let alone read and comprehend the meaning of the definition.
I know it's really original and everything to argue and call names anonymously on the internet. But the OP did say he wanted no BS in this thread and actual real answers to his questions about how things work if both candidates crap out before the election. There's plenty of other threads to fight in about the issues you guys are raising.
You are not a moderator and you are off message here too. If you have control issues, I suggest you go to the Coffee Chatter forum
 
Don't get your hopes up for former Cannabis Sativa CEO Johnson. FYI low information lefties, an indictment isn't a conviction and a heavily financed political party could deal and dodge and delay a trial and generally ignore an indictment. For all intents and purposes, Hillary's husband was indicted when he was impeached and remained in office. It's pretty easy for a political party to nominate a replacement but there is no venue for claiming a candidate is "unfit for office" except violations of Constitutional requirements and since Barry Hussein managed to dodge the issue of his birthplace for seven years, that issue is out the window. What do the terms "fill in the blanks or "whatever comes to mind" mean? What does come to the minds of the angry and hostile liberal left? Do the pot head libertarians have something sinister or violent in mind?
 
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Don't get your hopes up for former Cannabis Sativa CEO Johnson. FYI low information lefties, an indictment isn't a conviction and a heavily financed political party could deal and dodge and delay a trial and generally ignore an indictment. For all intents and purposes, Hillary's husband was indicted when he was impeached and remained in office. It's pretty easy for a political party to nominate a replacement but there is no venue for claiming a candidate is "unfit for office" except violations of Constitutional requirements and since Barry Hussein managed to dodge the issue of his birthplace for seven years, that issue is out the window. What do the terms "fill in the blanks or "whatever comes to mind" mean? What does come to the minds of the angry and hostile liberal left? Do the pot head libertarians have something sinister or violent in mind?
Well indictments ironically aren't as sticky as a civil suit. You have a point there. Whereas in criminal cases, the prosecution is the government and the government can't be heavy handed with defendants. In contrast, a plaintiff in a civil suit is presumed to have all the rights in the world to pursue her case, if there seems to be even the slightest hint that it has merit.

And, that presents a problem for one of the two candidates. But that candidate is not Hillary Clinton: Case Alleging Trump Raped 13 Year Old Girl Is Re-Filed In New York

Trump's co-defendant in that case is Jeffery Epstein, already convicted for underaged sex charges and on the offenders' list. And many more girls and women have accused Epstein of rape or molestation. Both Trump and Epstein have been accused of rape in the past.. with sudden recantings or settlements & gag orders neatly tucking those allegations away. So, as to the merit end of "Jane Doe's" accusations, she has a bit of an edge I'd think?
 

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