Republicans vote to eliminate Medicare, give more tax breaks to wealthy

[Zona]

Ryan's plan increases defense spending, demands ZERO sacrifice from the wealthy and all the sacrifice from the rest of us.

That's the failed ideology of the Reagan crowd, on steroids.

ANy proof, other than what Rachael Maddow tells you?

Which part is wrong?

Rabbi, seriously what part is not true? (psst, here is a hint, when someone actually does quote Maddow, you really should stfu unless you can debunk what she is saying. She is RARELY wrong and the few times I have seen her make an error, she MAKES A HUGE DEAL OF IT ON HER SHOW...EVERY SINGLE TIME). That is how to do it. That is a sharp woman.

Now back to her being right again .... get specific.

 

[Zona]

It's amazing the far right can trust Ryan. Look at the deficit causing legislation he voted for;
Medicare Part D (Will the corporate welfare program be eliminated by Ryan?)?
Two wars (Iraq & Afghanistan)
Bush tax cuts three times
AND, AND,
TARP!!!!!!!!
That's about over 5 trillion debt!
Paul Ryan has contributed to the problem.

Its very difficult for a real, actual republcan...not a hack...to say bush did a great job. Its almost impossible really.

Ryan loved bush. You can tell by his voting record.

 

[Harry Dresden]

It is the Republican way. Give the rich tax breaks at the same time that you cut programs from the disadvantaged. It is the Republican way...

Gov. Browns budget out here cuts programs from the needy and infirmed......they were not a happy group.....is it just the Republican way?.....mmmm?

 

[RachelMadcow]

It is the Republican way. Give the rich tax breaks at the same time that you cut programs from the disadvantaged. It is the Republican way...

Gov. Browns budget out here cuts programs from the needy and infirmed......they were not a happy group.....is it just the Republican way?.....mmmm?

Didnt Obama give tax cuts to Billionaires? Bailout Goldman Sachs? Bailout GM and give billions to banks?


LOL Republicans are the party of Wall St Fat cats!!!


Democrats are not bright

 

[Harry Dresden]

Wait.

What?

There's shoes?

Damn it, no one told me there would be shoes! Does Jillian know? That girl loves her some shoes.

shoes???



where?!?!?!

those things make girls asses look nice......most of them anyway.....

 

[The Rabbi]

ANy proof, other than what Rachael Maddow tells you?

Which part is wrong?

Rabbi, seriously what part is not true? (psst, here is a hint, when someone actually does quote Maddow, you really should stfu unless you can debunk what she is saying. She is RARELY wrong and the few times I have seen her make an error, she MAKES A HUGE DEAL OF IT ON HER SHOW...EVERY SINGLE TIME). That is how to do it. That is a sharp woman.

Now back to her being right again .... get specific.

That Reagan's economic policies were failures. They were clearly the most successful of any president in the 20th century. Only real spin could change anyone's perception of that.

 

[Sense]

Why is everyone's solution to lack of money to go and up the taxes on the rich? It seems as though how the money is being spent is the larger issue. I do agree on cutting medicare and medicare though. This is supposed to be a pure Laissez-Faire and medicare and medicade is sucking that into a socialism. If this is truely what the Republicans are supporting then im being drawn to becoming an elephant. Although whichever party creates a better plan for the spending of the money vrs finding more of it will definatley gain my vote.

 

[EriktheRed]

Which part is wrong?

Rabbi, seriously what part is not true? (psst, here is a hint, when someone actually does quote Maddow, you really should stfu unless you can debunk what she is saying. She is RARELY wrong and the few times I have seen her make an error, she MAKES A HUGE DEAL OF IT ON HER SHOW...EVERY SINGLE TIME). That is how to do it. That is a sharp woman.

Now back to her being right again .... get specific.

That Reagan's economic policies were failures. They were clearly the most successful of any president in the 20th century. Only real spin could change anyone's perception of that.

Interesting you should say that, since he raised taxes more than once.

 

[Toro]

That Reagan's economic policies were failures. They were clearly the most successful of any president in the 20th century. Only real spin could change anyone's perception of that.

Depends on who is doing the spinning.

Actually history supports the Supply Side argument. The deficit under Reagan fell to its lowest point as a percentage of GDP since WW2.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Let the FEARMONGERING BEGAN.

I'm sure they want our Seniors to eat cat food too and poor childreeeeen to go without an edumacation..

I won't rest until old people are eating puppies and kittens. Plus, I want poor people shipped off to re-education camps and I want to force feed diabetics candy canes. "Cause I'm an evil conservative.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Which part is wrong?

Rabbi, seriously what part is not true? (psst, here is a hint, when someone actually does quote Maddow, you really should stfu unless you can debunk what she is saying. She is RARELY wrong and the few times I have seen her make an error, she MAKES A HUGE DEAL OF IT ON HER SHOW...EVERY SINGLE TIME). That is how to do it. That is a sharp woman.

Now back to her being right again .... get specific.

That Reagan's economic policies were failures. They were clearly the most successful of any president in the 20th century. Only real spin could change anyone's perception of that.

I beg to differ:

National debt by U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Of course the same statistics can be made to represent many things in many different ways. Two other things to consider. Reagan ignored the AIDS crisis, had he been proactive many today might still be alive and many more not infected. And, he ignored the Drug Problems, "Just say No" was an absurd response. Both AIDS and the Drug Problem in America allowed to fester has cost billions of dollars in terms of healthcare, long-term care, lost productivity, crime and a gang problem which remains out-of-control.

 

[The Rabbi]

Rabbi, seriously what part is not true? (psst, here is a hint, when someone actually does quote Maddow, you really should stfu unless you can debunk what she is saying. She is RARELY wrong and the few times I have seen her make an error, she MAKES A HUGE DEAL OF IT ON HER SHOW...EVERY SINGLE TIME). That is how to do it. That is a sharp woman.

Now back to her being right again .... get specific.

That Reagan's economic policies were failures. They were clearly the most successful of any president in the 20th century. Only real spin could change anyone's perception of that.

I beg to differ:

National debt by U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Of course the same statistics can be made to represent many things in many different ways. Two other things to consider. Reagan ignored the AIDS crisis, had he been proactive many today might still be alive and many more not infected. And, he ignored the Drug Problems, "Just say No" was an absurd response. Both AIDS and the Drug Problem in America allowed to fester has cost billions of dollars in terms of healthcare, long-term care, lost productivity, crime and a gang problem which remains out-of-control.

Then you must really be screaming about Obama's debt.
You cite one measure and then launch into garbage about AIDS and drug abuse that has zero to do with Reagan's economic policies.
You are a buffoon.

 

[Seawytch]

There is a very simple and cost effective "fix" for Medicare...

Medicare for All Is the Solution

A single payer, Medicare for All national health insurance program could save over $400 billion annually now wasted on overhead and bureaucracy, enough to cover all 47 million uninsured Americans. It would allow patients to go to the private doctor or hospital of their choice with no more HMO restrictions. Private insurance is a defective product that costs too much and covers too little - three-fourths of all bankruptcies for medical bills are among people who have insurance. We have 44 years of positive experience with Medicare taking care of our nation's most vulnerable patients - seniors, the disabled, and people with kidney failure. Medicare for All would also allow the nation to reduce costs by buying medications in bulk, negotiating fees with doctors, and budgeting hospitals and other facilities. It would also allow Medicare benefits to be improved (to eliminate co-pays and deductibles, to add a comprehensive, permanent drug benefit, etc).

- Physicians for a National Health Program


Put Medicare on the nationwide exchange...

 

[EriktheRed]

Basically, what we have going on here right now is dueling "third rails".

For the GOP, it's making cuts to the entitlement programs like Medicare and Medicaid (to be followed by Social Security - they very wisely backed off that for now). For the Dems it's tax increases (there may be others, but that's arguably the biggie for them).

What i really liked about the Prez's speech is that he dared to say to the Repubs "Fine, you feel lucky enough to put your hand on that third rail, I'm gonna put my hand on this one. Now let's see how this goes"

 

[kiwiman127]

President's Total Debt in 2010 Dollars. Now look at Reagan's Extrapolated Debt!
It makes Obama and GWB look like amateurs.

http://www.presimetrics.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Figure-11.bmp

 

[The Rabbi]

President's Total Debt in 2010 Dollars. Now look at Reagan's Debt!

http://www.presimetrics.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Figure-11.bmp

I'd prefer this graphic of Obama's total debt:

 

[Agit8r]

So "Republicans" are for taking the fruits of those senior's labor (via payroll taxes) and wants to give it to other people who have never labored?

 

[Dot Com]

Which part is wrong?

Rabbi, seriously what part is not true? (psst, here is a hint, when someone actually does quote Maddow, you really should stfu unless you can debunk what she is saying. She is RARELY wrong and the few times I have seen her make an error, she MAKES A HUGE DEAL OF IT ON HER SHOW...EVERY SINGLE TIME). That is how to do it. That is a sharp woman.

Now back to her being right again .... get specific.

That Reagan's economic policies were failures. They were clearly the most successful of any president in the 20th century. Only real spin could change anyone's perception of that.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...m-reagans-budget-director-david-stockman.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...rickle-down-theory-is-a-complete-failure.html
Supply-side economics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The economist John Kenneth Galbraith noted that supply side economics was not a new theory. He wrote, "Mr. David Stockman has said that supply-side economics was merely a cover for the trickle-down approach to economic policy—what an older and less elegant generation called the horse-and-sparrow theory: If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows."

Trickle-down economics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Agit8r]

Has anyone come up with the term Death Vouchers yet?

 

[Dot Com]

Has anyone come up with the term Death Vouchers yet?

Thats right. Ryan wants to throw the elderly out of nursing homes w/ a voucher. How far is that goin to get them w/ a for-profit insurance co? Not far