Reagan, worst prez in our lifetime

[Meathead]

As it was, we crushed the Soviets without firing a shot

Reagan was amazing, wasn't he?

Absolutely....all he had to do was ask

Why didn't Hitler think of that?

"Tear Down This Wall" was not a question.

"Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"

What is the vocative case?

 

[FJO]

Damn

Reagan said "Tear down this wall" and the Soviets did it

Who would have thunk he had so much influence?

shhhhh ....

The nutters actually believe Ronnie Ray-Gun had something to do with it. You know, in between his endless vacations and completely our of control spending that makes Obama look like Scrooge, like Superman, with a flick of his finger, he tore down that wall.

Gorby told him he was going to take down the wall.

Then reagan did this little propaganda speech to cash in on it

I usually don't sink to a liberal's level and call the poster of a single post and idiot, but with this post, you earned it far more than you earned your food stamps.

 

[FJO]

look at the asshole who wanted the carnage of WWII to continue for another decade.

jesus these people are idiots

The Soviets were there for the taking.

After the Seige of Leningrad, the battle of Stalingrad, the Soviet Union was financially, economically and even morally exhausted and ripe for being eliminated from the face of the Earth as they so richly deserved, until they heard the good news that Roosevelt would give them a second chance to murder, enslave and kill people at their hearts' content.

Roosevelt enabled and encouraged Stalin and then Stalin enabled and encouraged the biggest butcher in human history, Mao Tse Tung, leading to 45 years of Cold War.

You talk about millions of lives, while forgetting that Stalin and the Soviets are responsible for about twenty million lives, and your friend and the friend and shining example of Obama and her lackies in the White House, Mao, responsible for sixty million murders.

Good going! Admire the enabler of killers, while you are besmirching Ronald Reagan whose efforts led to the soviet union's demise.

 

[bayoubill]

Reagan cut taxes for the Rich, increased taxes on the Middle Class. Reagan was a serial tax raiser.
Tripled the National Debt, made the United States a debtor nation
Iran/Contra
Reagan funded Terrorists
Unemployment issues; Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts Reagan grew the size of the federal government tremendously - even more than the Bush Dynasty.
Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million Undocumented Immigrants
Ignoring AIDS; he refused to even utter the word
His attack on Unions and the Middle Class

GREAT THOUGHTS OF RONALD REAGAN

"A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?" -- Ronald Reagan (Governor of California), quoted in the Sacramento Bee, opposing expansion of Redwood National Park, March 3, 1966

"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk." --Ronald Reagan (Republican candidate for president), quoted in the Burlington (Vermont) Free Press, February 15, 1980

"It's silly talking about how many years we will have to spend in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country and put parking stripes on it and still be home by Christmas." --Ronald Reagan (candidate for Governor of California), interviewed in the Fresno Bee, October 10, 1965

"...the moral equal of our Founding Fathers." --President Reagan, describing the Nicaraguan contras, March 1, 1985

"Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal." --Ronald Reagan, quoted in Time, May 17, 1976

"...a faceless mass, waiting for handouts." --Ronald Reagan, 1965. (Description of Medicaid recipients.)

"Unemployment insurance is a pre-paid vacation for freeloaders." --California Governor Ronald Reagan, in the Sacramento Bee, April 28, 1966

"We were told four years ago that 17 million people went to bed hungry every night. Well, that was probably true. They were all on a diet." --Ronald Reagan, TV speech, October 27, 1964

US: 8 reasons why Ronald Reagan was the worst President of our lifetime -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net

Criminalize Conservatism: Reagan: Worst President of Our Lifetime

Anyone want to add anything?

ooooh yeah... things woulda been soooo much better if Carter had been reelected...

 

[Harry Dresden]

Did you watch the video? Here I'll post it again.

You Progs back a system so fucking horrible, so dehumanizing they have to build walls to keep people in.

Reagan at Brandenburg Gate - "tear down this wall" - YouTube

Damn

Reagan said "Tear down this wall" and the Soviets did it

Who would have thunk he had so much influence?

shhhhh ....

The nutters actually believe Ronnie Ray-Gun had something to do with it. You know, in between his endless vacations and completely our of control spending that makes Obama look like Scrooge, like Superman, with a flick of his finger, he tore down that wall.

you know what Dudley.....when Obama is doing something good and the righties here make light of it.....if you chime in your telling them how fucked they are for getting on the guy for doing something thats a good thing......look what your doing here.....RW is doing it too.....Right and Left.....is there really a difference in the way they behave towards each other?.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Damn

Reagan said "Tear down this wall" and the Soviets did it

Who would have thunk he had so much influence?

shhhhh ....

The nutters actually believe Ronnie Ray-Gun had something to do with it. You know, in between his endless vacations and completely our of control spending that makes Obama look like Scrooge, like Superman, with a flick of his finger, he tore down that wall.

Gorby told him he was going to take down the wall.

Then reagan did this little propaganda speech to cash in on it

here is another one....she does the same thing when Obama is being goofed on for doing a good thing......

 

[rightwinger]

look at the asshole who wanted the carnage of WWII to continue for another decade.

jesus these people are idiots

The Soviets were there for the taking.

After the Seige of Leningrad, the battle of Stalingrad, the Soviet Union was financially, economically and even morally exhausted and ripe for being eliminated from the face of the Earth as they so richly deserved, until they heard the good news that Roosevelt would give them a second chance to murder, enslave and kill people at their hearts' content.

Roosevelt enabled and encouraged Stalin and then Stalin enabled and encouraged the biggest butcher in human history, Mao Tse Tung, leading to 45 years of Cold War.

You talk about millions of lives, while forgetting that Stalin and the Soviets are responsible for about twenty million lives, and your friend and the friend and shining example of Obama and her lackies in the White House, Mao, responsible for sixty million murders.

Good going! Admire the enabler of killers, while you are besmirching Ronald Reagan whose efforts led to the soviet union's demise.

The Soviets proved they were willing to fight to the death. America would not have stood for the carnage.

The Soviets were responsible for killing 7 million Germans. They would not have rolled over for America.

Given our knowledge of the history of the Soviet Union, what purpose would an invasion have served?

 

[DiamondDave]

Nobody was calling for invasion then... it was to get them out of western europe.. which with the Soviet's stretched thin, and who would be even thinner without help from the allies like they had been getting, the task could have been done... Patton and others were at least wise enough and had enough insight to see the problem that the Soviets were to the world

 

[Meathead]

Nobody was calling for invasion then... it was to get them out of western europe.. which with the Soviet's stretched thin, and who would be even thinner without help from the allies like they had been getting, the task could have been done... Patton and others were at least wise enough and had enough insight to see the problem that the Soviets were to the world

Patton had pushed into Plsen, Czechosovakia not 90 kilometers from here (Prague). He could have easily advanced to Prague and given the Poles and Hungarians hope of withstanding Soviet occupation and shattering Stalin's designs on Eastern Europe. We will never know for sure. It is Monday morning quarterbacking, but a healthier FDR might have rose to the challenge.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Hail Sandinistas !!!!!!!! Lol

 

[Freewill]

A catastrophe- and we're lucky his BS bluster didn't get hardliners to throw out Gorbrchev- who ended the USSR. Reagan ruined the nonrich and the country, produced the Pub propaganda machine disgrace, made hating the poor acceptable, and has Booosh and this depression as a legacy. The demented fool LOL.

The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.

Over the past 60 years (actually 30, obviously) the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez | The White House
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb...able=58&Freq=Qtr&FirstYear=2008&LastYear=2010
4 = PrudentBear
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Flow of Funds Accounts of the United States--December 6, 2012
5/6 = Wealth And Inequality In America - Business Insider

Overview = Reagan Revolution Home To Roost — In Charts - Dave Johnson

Thanks for pointing out that it got worse under Clinton, who by far is not most overrated and worse president.

 

[JimH52]

Agreed

10 reasons why Ronald Reagan was the worst president of our lifetime - Orlando liberal | Examiner.com

And the present day GOP holds him as some kind of Hero...

 

[Wyatt earp]

Reagan cut taxes for the Rich, increased taxes on the Middle Class. Reagan was a serial tax raiser.
Tripled the National Debt, made the United States a debtor nation
Iran/Contra
Reagan funded Terrorists
Unemployment issues; Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts Reagan grew the size of the federal government tremendously - even more than the Bush Dynasty.
Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million Undocumented Immigrants
Ignoring AIDS; he refused to even utter the word
His attack on Unions and the Middle Class

GREAT THOUGHTS OF RONALD REAGAN

"A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?" -- Ronald Reagan (Governor of California), quoted in the Sacramento Bee, opposing expansion of Redwood National Park, March 3, 1966

"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk." --Ronald Reagan (Republican candidate for president), quoted in the Burlington (Vermont) Free Press, February 15, 1980

"It's silly talking about how many years we will have to spend in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country and put parking stripes on it and still be home by Christmas." --Ronald Reagan (candidate for Governor of California), interviewed in the Fresno Bee, October 10, 1965

"...the moral equal of our Founding Fathers." --President Reagan, describing the Nicaraguan contras, March 1, 1985

"Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal." --Ronald Reagan, quoted in Time, May 17, 1976

"...a faceless mass, waiting for handouts." --Ronald Reagan, 1965. (Description of Medicaid recipients.)

"Unemployment insurance is a pre-paid vacation for freeloaders." --California Governor Ronald Reagan, in the Sacramento Bee, April 28, 1966

"We were told four years ago that 17 million people went to bed hungry every night. Well, that was probably true. They were all on a diet." --Ronald Reagan, TV speech, October 27, 1964

US: 8 reasons why Ronald Reagan was the worst President of our lifetime -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net

Criminalize Conservatism: Reagan: Worst President of Our Lifetime

Anyone want to add anything?

Reagan Destroyed the U.S.S.R with out even firing a shot any honest poster around the world would tell you that and he brought down the Berlin wall even Rodger Waters or Bono would tell you that

 

[boedicca]

The OP is a loon.

'Nuff said.

 

[Kosh]

More proof that the far left has to distract from the fact that Obama IS the worst president in history and that they need to start rewriting that history now.

The far left is no where close to being in touch with reality.

 

[Pheonixops]

Reagan: Defeated the USSR, the Liberal home team, freed tens of millions from Soviet Communism.

That's why the "American" Left hates him

It certainly wasn't solely reagan that bought down the USSR, there were other contributing factors like their economic model, and Soviet war in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The Cold War ultimately brought the Soviet Union down, but it took nearly half a century to accomplish this goal. "

"When Mikhail Gorbachev was appointed to the presidency of the Communist Party in 1985, he became an advocate of change. Gorbachev laid his goals out: rejuvenate the long-lagging economy and accelerate economic development.

He worked with President Ronald Reagan and the United States government to come to terms with the arms and policy disagreements that had escalated over the years. Relations between the United States and the Soviet Union improved rapidly. In 1989, Gorbachev and President George H.W. Bush declared an end to the Cold War. That same year marked the fall of the Berlin Wall in Germany, signifying the end of communism in East Germany. The communist governments in Czechoslovakia, Romania and Bulgaria also fell in December 1989"

 

[auditor0007]

Reagan cut taxes for the Rich, increased taxes on the Middle Class. Reagan was a serial tax raiser.
Tripled the National Debt, made the United States a debtor nation
Iran/Contra
Reagan funded Terrorists
Unemployment issues; Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts Reagan grew the size of the federal government tremendously - even more than the Bush Dynasty.
Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million Undocumented Immigrants
Ignoring AIDS; he refused to even utter the word
His attack on Unions and the Middle Class

GREAT THOUGHTS OF RONALD REAGAN

"A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?" -- Ronald Reagan (Governor of California), quoted in the Sacramento Bee, opposing expansion of Redwood National Park, March 3, 1966

"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk." --Ronald Reagan (Republican candidate for president), quoted in the Burlington (Vermont) Free Press, February 15, 1980

"It's silly talking about how many years we will have to spend in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country and put parking stripes on it and still be home by Christmas." --Ronald Reagan (candidate for Governor of California), interviewed in the Fresno Bee, October 10, 1965

"...the moral equal of our Founding Fathers." --President Reagan, describing the Nicaraguan contras, March 1, 1985

"Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal." --Ronald Reagan, quoted in Time, May 17, 1976

"...a faceless mass, waiting for handouts." --Ronald Reagan, 1965. (Description of Medicaid recipients.)

"Unemployment insurance is a pre-paid vacation for freeloaders." --California Governor Ronald Reagan, in the Sacramento Bee, April 28, 1966

"We were told four years ago that 17 million people went to bed hungry every night. Well, that was probably true. They were all on a diet." --Ronald Reagan, TV speech, October 27, 1964

US: 8 reasons why Ronald Reagan was the worst President of our lifetime -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net

Criminalize Conservatism: Reagan: Worst President of Our Lifetime

Anyone want to add anything?

Reagan was not what most people think he was. He was not anywhere as bad as you state, and he was not anywhere near as conservative as conservatives like to believe. While Reagan did cut taxes, he cut them at a time that they were higher than they needed to be. When he saw that he had cut them too much, he raised them a bit. The one thing he did that I feel was quite smart was to keep the capital gains rate the same as the income tax rate. Since then, we have dropped the capital gains rate to extremely low levels. This has made it advantageous for the very wealthy in oh so many different ways. CEO's get paid with big stock options where they pay little in taxes. Anyone with any money takes the bulk of their earnings in capital gains. The only people who get nailed with really high tax rates are people like athletes who get stuck paying on their contracted salaries. If there was a way to pay them in stock options, I'm sure they would love to take advantage of those very same loopholes.

Nah, Reagan was a pragmatist. This is why he expanded government so much, because there was a need for it. At the same time though, he oversaw a very large expansion of our economy, so the near doubling of the federal government wasn't all that much out of line. Was Reagan perfect? Not by a long shot. But he wasn't a bad president in any way.

 

[Vox]

No, the worst of our lifetime we have now in the WH.

 

[SayMyName]

He did have great hair, style, and some really nice suits. I love the orchestrated bit with the helicopters still churning whenever CoS Baker didn't want him to hear the shouted questions from the press pool. That was clever.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Heck yea it was Ronnie who brought it down, it started with him firing the traffic controller Unions and U.S.S.R.woke up and knew Regan was serious and he out spent them.

And don't even use wiki around me to describe what happened back then because I was in my 20's and I paid attention.