Rangel's Tragic End

[Moon]

This is funny. Newt Gingrich did far worse..where were Republicans on that guy? What about Tom Delay? They wanted to change to rules for him.

But ol' Charlie? Who won a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart in Korea? They want him "to resign" or be "expelled".

This is the man you guys want to expell.



That's a real life blood and guts American hero..not an actor.

So you want to give him a lifetime pass because of what he did as a soldier 60 years ago? Or is it just because he's a Democrat?

Life time pass for what?

You're whining about how he's being treated, and you post his wartime resume along with your plaintive "This is the man you guys want to expell" bit, so yeah, it's pretty obvious you want to let him slide on the ethics charges.

Personally, I'd like to see all of the crooks expelled. Rangel's case should be pursued by the DoJ, but I won't hold my breath on that one.

 

[Sallow]

George W. Bush committed a major crime in the Harken stock deal.


wait, what?

Charges pending...didn't you get his memo?

Since when?

He walked on that.

 

[Kat]

This is funny. Newt Gingrich did far worse..where were Republicans on that guy? What about Tom Delay? They wanted to change to rules for him.

But ol' Charlie? Who won a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart in Korea? They want him "to resign" or be "expelled".

This is the man you guys want to expell.

Rangel then enlisted in the United States Army, and served from 1948 to 1952.[10] During the Korean War, he was a member of the all-black 503rd Field Artillery Battalion in the 2nd Infantry Division.[11]

In late November 1950, this unit was caught up in heavy fighting in North Korea as part of the U.N. forces retreat from the Yalu River. In the Battle of Kunu-ri, Rangel was part of a vehicle column that was trapped and attacked by the Chinese Army.[11] In the subzero cold, Rangel was injured by shrapnel from a Chinese shell.[12] Some U.S. soldiers were being taken prisoner, but others looked to Rangel, who though only a private first class had a reputation for leadership in the unit. Rangel led some 40 men from his unit, during three days of freezing weather, out of the Chinese encirclement. Nearly half of the battalion was killed in the overall battle.[13]

Rangel was awarded a Purple Heart for his wounds and the Bronze Star with Valor for his actions in the face of death.[14] His Army unit was awarded the Presidential Unit Citation,[15] the Republic of Korea Presidential Unit Citation, and three battle stars.[14] In 2000, Rangel reflected with CBS News that

Charles B. Rangel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's a real life blood and guts American hero..not an actor.

If only he'd acted as honorably in Congress, he wouldn't be in the mess he's in.

Oh noooooooooooooooooooooo! It isn't his fault..it is some else. You should know better than that!!!
Never..and I mean NEVER EVER take personal responsibility.

 

[washamericom]

multinational corporations who get welfare that taxpayers are stuck paying...


not true

 

[The T]

I see you gave up the military defense and moved to the flimsy irony that he advocated for sooner rather than later charitable deductions as regards Haiti donations. Whether sooner or later, whether Charlie or not, donations were tax deductible anyways.
You are all too easily impressed when politicians bloviate to make themselves look good.
But don't let me interfere with your unflattering defense of political swine.

Any other American heroes you want to call "swine"?

swine is unfair, i just called hamed karzai swine,... alan greyson was swine. not charlie.
if we lived to be forever, we could seperate whole events.
but life is short, so we have to look at the picture. i defy that anyone shot on the other side of the world as a boy (or nearly), for his country, to be called swine, that's pretty low. T ?

Al I will add to this is that that fuckstick Grayson got booted by popular demand. Bully for Florida...and kudos for Floridian Voters.

But leave it to the Statist to call criminals "American heroes"

Personally? I'm laughing my ass off.

 

[Sallow]

So you want to give him a lifetime pass because of what he did as a soldier 60 years ago? Or is it just because he's a Democrat?

Life time pass for what?

You're whining about how he's being treated, and you post his wartime resume along with your plaintive "This is the man you guys want to expell" bit, so yeah, it's pretty obvious you want to let him slide on the ethics charges.

Personally, I'd like to see all of the crooks expelled. Rangel's case should be pursued by the DoJ, but I won't hold my breath on that one.

Not "whining" about anything.

Charlie Rangel lost his chairmanship of the ways and means committee. His name has been drug through the mud and he's facing censure.

This is extraordinary..in that it's never happened to any other congressperson before.

He hasn't been charged with anything.

So in many ways..this is a first.

I am surprised more people aren't surprised about this.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Two Words: Term Limits. Rangel was there far too long. Never trust career Politicians. I'm always suspect of anyone who couldn't make it in the real world and couldn't hold a real job. Rangel was a brave & honorable Soldier but he was an incredibly corrupt career politician. Term Limits really would solve most of these corruption problems. Probably wont happen but i think it would help.

 

[washamericom]

I think they want to Censure him, personally I want him in jail....like I probably would have been, but that just me.

Did you want to see Newt in Jail? How about Tom Delay?

Hey lets go up the food chain. George W. Bush committed a major crime in the Harken stock deal. You want him in the pokey too? He made much more cash then Rangel did on the deal.

Just wondering if this sense of justice is bi-partisan.

And you do know that most of the time the IRS just fines you for this sort of stuff. Right?

You want that to change? Or just in Rangel's case.

Sallow, you already asked this question and I answered you that my view crosses party lines. I asked if you could be as honest, and you ran from my answer. I think I do know the answer by the way you didn't answer.

man...this guy's good...

 

[daveman]

This is funny. Newt Gingrich did far worse..where were Republicans on that guy? What about Tom Delay? They wanted to change to rules for him.

But ol' Charlie? Who won a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart in Korea? They want him "to resign" or be "expelled".

This is the man you guys want to expell.



That's a real life blood and guts American hero..not an actor.

If only he'd acted as honorably in Congress, he wouldn't be in the mess he's in.

Oh he has.

I guess you missed his marches in for civil rights..

Or maybe that carries "no honor" in the eyes of some.

You seem to be forgetting he's broken the law.

Do you think good works should excuse law-breaking?

 

[The T]

Life time pass for what?

You're whining about how he's being treated, and you post his wartime resume along with your plaintive "This is the man you guys want to expell" bit, so yeah, it's pretty obvious you want to let him slide on the ethics charges.

Personally, I'd like to see all of the crooks expelled. Rangel's case should be pursued by the DoJ, but I won't hold my breath on that one.

Not "whining" about anything.

Charlie Rangel lost his chairmanship of the ways and means committee. His name has been drug through the mud and he's facing censure.

This is extraordinary..in that it's never happened to any other congressperson before.

He hasn't been charged with anything.

So in many ways..this is a first.

I am surprised more people aren't surprised about this.

By no fault of his own...right? YOU act as if this is expected behaviour of electeds and is to be excused? Good GOD man? Your morals and standards must really be in the mud...

 

[washamericom]

Any other American heroes you want to call "swine"?

swine is unfair, i just called hamed karzai swine,... alan greyson was swine. not charlie.
if we lived to be forever, we could seperate whole events.
but life is short, so we have to look at the picture. i defy that anyone shot on the other side of the world as a boy (or nearly), for his country, to be called swine, that's pretty low. T ?

Al I will add to this is that that fuckstick Grayson got booted by popular demand. Bully for Florida...and kudos for Floridian Voters.

But leave it to the Statist to call criminals "American heroes"

Personally? I'm laughing my ass off.

that's fair
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ6NcOQRJTc[/ame]

 

[Sallow]

Any other American heroes you want to call "swine"?

swine is unfair, i just called hamed karzai swine,... alan greyson was swine. not charlie.
if we lived to be forever, we could seperate whole events.
but life is short, so we have to look at the picture. i defy that anyone shot on the other side of the world as a boy (or nearly), for his country, to be called swine, that's pretty low. T ?

Al I will add to this is that that fuckstick Grayson got booted by popular demand. Bully for Florida...and kudos for Floridian Voters.

But leave it to the Statist to call criminals "American heroes"

Personally? I'm laughing my ass off.

So now an American Hero..is no longer a hero because of Tax accounting mistakes..

And I'm the "Statist"..

The Irony is bursting the boxes of this post...

 

[Trajan]

Another arrogant Statist neutered. Next up? Maxine 'The Mouth' Waters.
But look for a larger fight than what Rangle fronted.

they have postponed her hearing etc.....no reasons given last I checked. Shes probably off shoring/hiding her money so she can claim to be indigent to.

 

[B. Kidd]

I see you gave up the military defense and moved to the flimsy irony that he advocated for sooner rather than later charitable deductions as regards Haiti donations. Whether sooner or later, whether Charlie or not, donations were tax deductible anyways.
You are all too easily impressed when politicians bloviate to make themselves look good.
But don't let me interfere with your unflattering defense of political swine.

Any other American heroes you want to call "swine"?

swine is unfair, i just called hamed karzai swine,... alan greyson was swine. not charlie.
if we lived to be forever, we could seperate whole events.
but life is short, so we have to look at the picture. i defy that anyone shot on the other side of the world as a boy (or nearly), for his country, to be called swine, that's pretty low. T ?

As a member of the military, greatness. (that was then)
As a politician, swine. (this is now)
Apples.
Oranges.
Anemic attempt at confusing the two.

 

[daveman]

This is funny. Newt Gingrich did far worse..where were Republicans on that guy? What about Tom Delay? They wanted to change to rules for him.

But ol' Charlie? Who won a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart in Korea? They want him "to resign" or be "expelled".

This is the man you guys want to expell.



That's a real life blood and guts American hero..not an actor.

If only he'd acted as honorably in Congress, he wouldn't be in the mess he's in.

Oh noooooooooooooooooooooo! It isn't his fault..it is some else. You should know better than that!!!
Never..and I mean NEVER EVER take personal responsibility.

...especially when there are so many useful idiots willing to forgive anything you do because you're a Democrat.

 

[The T]

Another arrogant Statist neutered. Next up? Maxine 'The Mouth' Waters.
But look for a larger fight than what Rangle fronted.

they have postponed her hearing etc.....no reasons given last I checked. Shes probably off shoring/hiding her money so she can claim to be indigent to.

So they can blame it on the Republicans. It's in their manual under the chapter entitled "Blame"

 

[The T]

swine is unfair, i just called hamed karzai swine,... alan greyson was swine. not charlie.
if we lived to be forever, we could seperate whole events.
but life is short, so we have to look at the picture. i defy that anyone shot on the other side of the world as a boy (or nearly), for his country, to be called swine, that's pretty low. T ?

Al I will add to this is that that fuckstick Grayson got booted by popular demand. Bully for Florida...and kudos for Floridian Voters.

But leave it to the Statist to call criminals "American heroes"

Personally? I'm laughing my ass off.

So now an American Hero..is no longer a hero because of Tax accounting mistakes..

And I'm the "Statist"..

The Irony is bursting the boxes of this post...

Blame, Minimize, Deny, Obfucate...which heading of the Statist manual does this fall under?

You're such a trusting rube just happy to be led by the nose aren't you?

 

[daveman]

swine is unfair, i just called hamed karzai swine,... alan greyson was swine. not charlie.
if we lived to be forever, we could seperate whole events.
but life is short, so we have to look at the picture. i defy that anyone shot on the other side of the world as a boy (or nearly), for his country, to be called swine, that's pretty low. T ?

Al I will add to this is that that fuckstick Grayson got booted by popular demand. Bully for Florida...and kudos for Floridian Voters.

But leave it to the Statist to call criminals "American heroes"

Personally? I'm laughing my ass off.

So now an American Hero..is no longer a hero because of Tax accounting mistakes..

And I'm the "Statist"..

The Irony is bursting the boxes of this post...

According to some folks, not paying taxes is unpatriotic.

 

[Meister]

Did you want to see Newt in Jail? How about Tom Delay?

Hey lets go up the food chain. George W. Bush committed a major crime in the Harken stock deal. You want him in the pokey too? He made much more cash then Rangel did on the deal.

Just wondering if this sense of justice is bi-partisan.

And you do know that most of the time the IRS just fines you for this sort of stuff. Right?

You want that to change? Or just in Rangel's case.

Sallow, you already asked this question and I answered you that my view crosses party lines. I asked if you could be as honest, and you ran from my answer. I think I do know the answer by the way you didn't answer.

Okay..

Then you are suggesting that we start right now to be more severe with congress people.

Correct?

Precendent and proportionality be damned..hence forth.

Or is it retro-active.

Are you calling for investigations in to say Bush? Cheney? Those guys have some serious irregularities in terms of the law in their past..

Cheney while the head of haliburton..

Bush while the head of harken oil.

So which is it?

Or is just Rangel the bad guy here. A guy who really did put his life on the line, multiple times..for this country.

WTF are you talking about??? You asked the question and I answered it. I think if politicians that break the law should be afforded the same penalty as you or I. You have show that because Rangel has served honorably and is a war hero, he should get a pass on his indiscretions. I say he shouldn't and any other politician that has broken the law shouldn't. Now, argue that.

 

[Moon]

Life time pass for what?

You're whining about how he's being treated, and you post his wartime resume along with your plaintive "This is the man you guys want to expell" bit, so yeah, it's pretty obvious you want to let him slide on the ethics charges.

Personally, I'd like to see all of the crooks expelled. Rangel's case should be pursued by the DoJ, but I won't hold my breath on that one.

Not "whining" about anything.

Charlie Rangel lost his chairmanship of the ways and means committee. His name has been drug through the mud and he's facing censure.

This is extraordinary..in that it's never happened to any other congressperson before.

He hasn't been charged with anything.

So in many ways..this is a first.

I am surprised more people aren't surprised about this.

He was stripped of a chairmanship he was going to lose anyway? How traumatic that must be for him.

Like I said, he should be charged. If he's not, I hope you take that up with Eric Holder.