Problems with AGW Modeling

[Stephanie]

and then we have this: dear gawd you people need to wake to what their AGENDA IS behind this. it will end up Hurting you and your children, grandchildren, etc

SNIP:
A research expedition to study the effects of global warming aboard the Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker Amundsen is on hold as the icebreaker is needed to do it’s primary job — break up ice:

You don’t say…

According to a Coast Guard officer, the icy conditions are the “worst he’s seen in 20 years“:

A carefully planned, 115-day scientific expedition on board the floating research vessel, the CCGS Amundsen, has been derailed as the icebreaker was called to help resupply ships navigate heavy ice in Hudson Bay.

“Obviously it has a large impact on us,” says Martin Fortier, executive director of ArcticNet, which coordinates research on the vessel. “It’s a frustrating situation

ALL of it here:
Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice photos Twitchy

 

[jc456]

and then we have this: dear gawd you people need to wake to what their AGENDA IS behind this. it will end up Hurting you and your children, grandchildren, etc

SNIP:
A research expedition to study the effects of global warming aboard the Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker Amundsen is on hold as the icebreaker is needed to do it’s primary job — break up ice:

You don’t say…

According to a Coast Guard officer, the icy conditions are the “worst he’s seen in 20 years“:

A carefully planned, 115-day scientific expedition on board the floating research vessel, the CCGS Amundsen, has been derailed as the icebreaker was called to help resupply ships navigate heavy ice in Hudson Bay.

“Obviously it has a large impact on us,” says Martin Fortier, executive director of ArcticNet, which coordinates research on the vessel. “It’s a frustrating situation

ALL of it here:
Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice photos Twitchy

that's just make believe. ask crick, oldirocks, and mantooth. From their little computer chairs they can see that ice is melting and is not increasing. Just ask them, they ain't shy I'll tell you that.

Edit: oh and that captain is a denier.

 

[Stephanie]

and then we have this: dear gawd you people need to wake to what their AGENDA IS behind this. it will end up Hurting you and your children, grandchildren, etc

SNIP:
A research expedition to study the effects of global warming aboard the Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker Amundsen is on hold as the icebreaker is needed to do it’s primary job — break up ice:

You don’t say…

According to a Coast Guard officer, the icy conditions are the “worst he’s seen in 20 years“:

A carefully planned, 115-day scientific expedition on board the floating research vessel, the CCGS Amundsen, has been derailed as the icebreaker was called to help resupply ships navigate heavy ice in Hudson Bay.

“Obviously it has a large impact on us,” says Martin Fortier, executive director of ArcticNet, which coordinates research on the vessel. “It’s a frustrating situation

ALL of it here:
Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice photos Twitchy

that's just make believe. ask crick, oldirocks, and mantooth. From their little computer chairs they can see that ice is melting and is not increasing. Just ask them, they ain't shy I'll tell you that.

Edit: oh and that captain is a denier.

lol, for sure.
my gawd people need to wake the hell up with this scam they are trying pull on them

 

[Stephanie]

here we go again. they have lies on top of lies. and they don't care they LIE to you. But this is a "breathtaking" new study blaaa blaaa baaa. from the leftwing propaganda site, slate.
wake up

SNIP:

In what may prove to be a turning point for political action on climate change, a breathtaking new study casts extreme doubt about the near-term stability of global sea levels.
The study—written by James Hansen, NASA’s former lead climate scientist, and 16 co-authors, many of whom are considered among the top in their fields—concludes that glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica will melt 10 times faster than previous consensus estimates, resulting in sea level rise of at least 10 feet in as little as 50 years. The study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, brings new importance to a feedback loop in the ocean near Antarctica that results in cooler freshwater from melting glaciers forcing warmer, saltier water underneath the ice sheets, speeding up the melting rate. Hansen, who is known for being alarmist and also right, acknowledges that his study implies change far beyond previous consensus estimates. In a conference call with reporters, he said he hoped the new findings would be “substantially more persuasive than anything previously published.” I certainly find them to be....

all of it here:
Slate ^ |

and then we have the TRUTH
SNIP:


Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice [photos]
Posted at 10:13 am on July 22, 2015 by Twitchy Staff | View Comments




A research expedition to study the effects of global warming aboard the Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker Amundsen is on hold as the icebreaker is needed to do it’s primary job — break up ice:




You don’t say…

According to a Coast Guard officer, the icy conditions are the “worst he’s seen in 20 years“:

A carefully planned, 115-day scientific expedition on board the floating research vessel, the CCGS Amundsen, has been derailed as the icebreaker was called to help resupply ships navigate heavy ice in Hudson Bay.

“Obviously it has a large impact on us,” says Martin Fortier, executive director of ArcticNet, which coordinates research on the vessel. “It’s a frustrating situation.”

During the summer, the Amundsen operates as a floating research centre with experiments running 24 hours a day. This year it was scheduled to reach North Baffin Bay.

But the icebreaker has been rerouted to escort commercial ships en route to resupply communities in Northern Quebec on the eastern side of Hudson Bay.

ALL of it here:
Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice photos Twitchy

 

[jc456]

here we go again. they have lies on top of lies. and they don't care they LIE to you. But this is a "breathtaking" new study blaaa blaaa baaa. from the leftwing propaganda site, slate.
wake up

SNIP:

In what may prove to be a turning point for political action on climate change, a breathtaking new study casts extreme doubt about the near-term stability of global sea levels.
The study—written by James Hansen, NASA’s former lead climate scientist, and 16 co-authors, many of whom are considered among the top in their fields—concludes that glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica will melt 10 times faster than previous consensus estimates, resulting in sea level rise of at least 10 feet in as little as 50 years. The study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, brings new importance to a feedback loop in the ocean near Antarctica that results in cooler freshwater from melting glaciers forcing warmer, saltier water underneath the ice sheets, speeding up the melting rate. Hansen, who is known for being alarmist and also right, acknowledges that his study implies change far beyond previous consensus estimates. In a conference call with reporters, he said he hoped the new findings would be “substantially more persuasive than anything previously published.” I certainly find them to be....

all of it here:
Slate ^ |

and then we have the TRUTH
SNIP:


Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice [photos]
Posted at 10:13 am on July 22, 2015 by Twitchy Staff | View Comments




A research expedition to study the effects of global warming aboard the Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker Amundsen is on hold as the icebreaker is needed to do it’s primary job — break up ice:




You don’t say…

According to a Coast Guard officer, the icy conditions are the “worst he’s seen in 20 years“:

A carefully planned, 115-day scientific expedition on board the floating research vessel, the CCGS Amundsen, has been derailed as the icebreaker was called to help resupply ships navigate heavy ice in Hudson Bay.

“Obviously it has a large impact on us,” says Martin Fortier, executive director of ArcticNet, which coordinates research on the vessel. “It’s a frustrating situation.”

During the summer, the Amundsen operates as a floating research centre with experiments running 24 hours a day. This year it was scheduled to reach North Baffin Bay.

But the icebreaker has been rerouted to escort commercial ships en route to resupply communities in Northern Quebec on the eastern side of Hudson Bay.

ALL of it here:
Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice photos Twitchy

I guess if the earth needs ice growth, the best thing to do is send a research ship toward existing ice and magically more ice appears around the ships unexpectedly. Funny stuff!!!!

Oh the ice is melting, the ice is melting, oh wait, send a research ship out and see all the ice that ain't melting.

 

[mamooth]

As usual, jc jumps in do to some fine asslicking. There's not an independent thought to be found in his little cult brain.

Ice melt this year in Hudson Bay is slower than normal. I've pointed that out before. And it's faster in most other places. Only the most profoundly stupid and dishonest of the cultists will stoop to cherrypicking a local condition and then declaring it proves no warming. Steph and jc are such stupid and dishonest people.

 

[jc456]

As usual, jc jumps in do to some fine asslicking. There's not an independent thought to be found in his little cult brain.

Ice melt this year in Hudson Bay is slower than normal. I've pointed that out before. And it's faster in most other places. Only the most profoundly stupid and dishonest of the cultists will stoop to cherrypicking a local condition and then declaring it proves no warming. Steph and jc are such stupid and dishonest people.

dude/ dudette, you implicate yourself in almost every climate post. Think about what you just did? hmmmmmm, you stated what you just did. Little asswhatever you are.

 

[Stephanie]

here we go again. they have lies on top of lies. and they don't care they LIE to you. But this is a "breathtaking" new study blaaa blaaa baaa. from the leftwing propaganda site, slate.
wake up

SNIP:

In what may prove to be a turning point for political action on climate change, a breathtaking new study casts extreme doubt about the near-term stability of global sea levels.
The study—written by James Hansen, NASA’s former lead climate scientist, and 16 co-authors, many of whom are considered among the top in their fields—concludes that glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica will melt 10 times faster than previous consensus estimates, resulting in sea level rise of at least 10 feet in as little as 50 years. The study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, brings new importance to a feedback loop in the ocean near Antarctica that results in cooler freshwater from melting glaciers forcing warmer, saltier water underneath the ice sheets, speeding up the melting rate. Hansen, who is known for being alarmist and also right, acknowledges that his study implies change far beyond previous consensus estimates. In a conference call with reporters, he said he hoped the new findings would be “substantially more persuasive than anything previously published.” I certainly find them to be....

all of it here:
Slate ^ |

and then we have the TRUTH
SNIP:


Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice [photos]
Posted at 10:13 am on July 22, 2015 by Twitchy Staff | View Comments




A research expedition to study the effects of global warming aboard the Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker Amundsen is on hold as the icebreaker is needed to do it’s primary job — break up ice:




You don’t say…

According to a Coast Guard officer, the icy conditions are the “worst he’s seen in 20 years“:

A carefully planned, 115-day scientific expedition on board the floating research vessel, the CCGS Amundsen, has been derailed as the icebreaker was called to help resupply ships navigate heavy ice in Hudson Bay.

“Obviously it has a large impact on us,” says Martin Fortier, executive director of ArcticNet, which coordinates research on the vessel. “It’s a frustrating situation.”

During the summer, the Amundsen operates as a floating research centre with experiments running 24 hours a day. This year it was scheduled to reach North Baffin Bay.

But the icebreaker has been rerouted to escort commercial ships en route to resupply communities in Northern Quebec on the eastern side of Hudson Bay.

ALL of it here:
Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice photos Twitchy

I guess if the earth needs ice growth, the best thing to do is send a research ship toward existing ice and magically more ice appears around the ships unexpectedly. Funny stuff!!!!

Oh the ice is melting, the ice is melting, oh wait, send a research ship out and see all the ice that ain't melting.

sure seems that way. lol
it makes me sick to see how these People will LIE and manipulate the truth for their hurtful Agendas on US.

 

[jc456]

here we go again. they have lies on top of lies. and they don't care they LIE to you. But this is a "breathtaking" new study blaaa blaaa baaa. from the leftwing propaganda site, slate.
wake up

SNIP:

In what may prove to be a turning point for political action on climate change, a breathtaking new study casts extreme doubt about the near-term stability of global sea levels.
The study—written by James Hansen, NASA’s former lead climate scientist, and 16 co-authors, many of whom are considered among the top in their fields—concludes that glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica will melt 10 times faster than previous consensus estimates, resulting in sea level rise of at least 10 feet in as little as 50 years. The study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, brings new importance to a feedback loop in the ocean near Antarctica that results in cooler freshwater from melting glaciers forcing warmer, saltier water underneath the ice sheets, speeding up the melting rate. Hansen, who is known for being alarmist and also right, acknowledges that his study implies change far beyond previous consensus estimates. In a conference call with reporters, he said he hoped the new findings would be “substantially more persuasive than anything previously published.” I certainly find them to be....

all of it here:
Slate ^ |

and then we have the TRUTH
SNIP:


Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice [photos]
Posted at 10:13 am on July 22, 2015 by Twitchy Staff | View Comments




A research expedition to study the effects of global warming aboard the Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker Amundsen is on hold as the icebreaker is needed to do it’s primary job — break up ice:




You don’t say…

According to a Coast Guard officer, the icy conditions are the “worst he’s seen in 20 years“:

A carefully planned, 115-day scientific expedition on board the floating research vessel, the CCGS Amundsen, has been derailed as the icebreaker was called to help resupply ships navigate heavy ice in Hudson Bay.

“Obviously it has a large impact on us,” says Martin Fortier, executive director of ArcticNet, which coordinates research on the vessel. “It’s a frustrating situation.”

During the summer, the Amundsen operates as a floating research centre with experiments running 24 hours a day. This year it was scheduled to reach North Baffin Bay.

But the icebreaker has been rerouted to escort commercial ships en route to resupply communities in Northern Quebec on the eastern side of Hudson Bay.

ALL of it here:
Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice photos Twitchy

I guess if the earth needs ice growth, the best thing to do is send a research ship toward existing ice and magically more ice appears around the ships unexpectedly. Funny stuff!!!!

Oh the ice is melting, the ice is melting, oh wait, send a research ship out and see all the ice that ain't melting.

sure seems that way. lol
it makes me sick to see how these People will LIE and manipulate the truth for their hurtful Agendas on US.

they're losing the battle of the lie though. It is why they are in here daily making up more lies on top of lies. Now the ice in Hudson Bay has nothing to do with Arctic ice build. As an Obonekanoby' mind plants, "that is not ice build that is ice melt move along to another ship".

 

[Crick]

Hey... uh... jc... just what, exactly, do you think Arctic ice extents have to do with sea level?

 

[jc456]

Hey... uh... jc... just what, exactly, do you think Arctic ice extents have to do with sea level?

nothing. it could all melt and no new water would be added to the sea.

zero sea rise.

What is it you think will happen?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

here we go again. they have lies on top of lies. and they don't care they LIE to you. But this is a "breathtaking" new study blaaa blaaa baaa. from the leftwing propaganda site, slate.
wake up

SNIP:

In what may prove to be a turning point for political action on climate change, a breathtaking new study casts extreme doubt about the near-term stability of global sea levels.
The study—written by James Hansen, NASA’s former lead climate scientist, and 16 co-authors, many of whom are considered among the top in their fields—concludes that glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica will melt 10 times faster than previous consensus estimates, resulting in sea level rise of at least 10 feet in as little as 50 years. The study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, brings new importance to a feedback loop in the ocean near Antarctica that results in cooler freshwater from melting glaciers forcing warmer, saltier water underneath the ice sheets, speeding up the melting rate. Hansen, who is known for being alarmist and also right, acknowledges that his study implies change far beyond previous consensus estimates. In a conference call with reporters, he said he hoped the new findings would be “substantially more persuasive than anything previously published.” I certainly find them to be....

all of it here:
Slate ^ |

and then we have the TRUTH
SNIP:


Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice [photos]
Posted at 10:13 am on July 22, 2015 by Twitchy Staff | View Comments




A research expedition to study the effects of global warming aboard the Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker Amundsen is on hold as the icebreaker is needed to do it’s primary job — break up ice:




You don’t say…

According to a Coast Guard officer, the icy conditions are the “worst he’s seen in 20 years“:

A carefully planned, 115-day scientific expedition on board the floating research vessel, the CCGS Amundsen, has been derailed as the icebreaker was called to help resupply ships navigate heavy ice in Hudson Bay.

“Obviously it has a large impact on us,” says Martin Fortier, executive director of ArcticNet, which coordinates research on the vessel. “It’s a frustrating situation.”

During the summer, the Amundsen operates as a floating research centre with experiments running 24 hours a day. This year it was scheduled to reach North Baffin Bay.

But the icebreaker has been rerouted to escort commercial ships en route to resupply communities in Northern Quebec on the eastern side of Hudson Bay.

ALL of it here:
Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice photos Twitchy

I guess if the earth needs ice growth, the best thing to do is send a research ship toward existing ice and magically more ice appears around the ships unexpectedly. Funny stuff!!!!

Oh the ice is melting, the ice is melting, oh wait, send a research ship out and see all the ice that ain't melting.

sure seems that way. lol
it makes me sick to see how these People will LIE and manipulate the truth for their hurtful Agendas on US.

they're losing the battle of the lie though. It is why they are in here daily making up more lies on top of lies. Now the ice in Hudson Bay has nothing to do with Arctic ice build. As an Obonekanoby' mind plants, "that is not ice build that is ice melt move along to another ship".

Er, the ice is a sign of Climate Changes, just as predicted by the models. See the oceans absorb 90% of the heat and the heat makes more ice

Yeah, that's the ticket

 

[jc456]

here we go again. they have lies on top of lies. and they don't care they LIE to you. But this is a "breathtaking" new study blaaa blaaa baaa. from the leftwing propaganda site, slate.
wake up

SNIP:

In what may prove to be a turning point for political action on climate change, a breathtaking new study casts extreme doubt about the near-term stability of global sea levels.
The study—written by James Hansen, NASA’s former lead climate scientist, and 16 co-authors, many of whom are considered among the top in their fields—concludes that glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica will melt 10 times faster than previous consensus estimates, resulting in sea level rise of at least 10 feet in as little as 50 years. The study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, brings new importance to a feedback loop in the ocean near Antarctica that results in cooler freshwater from melting glaciers forcing warmer, saltier water underneath the ice sheets, speeding up the melting rate. Hansen, who is known for being alarmist and also right, acknowledges that his study implies change far beyond previous consensus estimates. In a conference call with reporters, he said he hoped the new findings would be “substantially more persuasive than anything previously published.” I certainly find them to be....

all of it here:
Slate ^ |

and then we have the TRUTH
SNIP:


Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice [photos]
Posted at 10:13 am on July 22, 2015 by Twitchy Staff | View Comments




A research expedition to study the effects of global warming aboard the Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker Amundsen is on hold as the icebreaker is needed to do it’s primary job — break up ice:




You don’t say…

According to a Coast Guard officer, the icy conditions are the “worst he’s seen in 20 years“:

A carefully planned, 115-day scientific expedition on board the floating research vessel, the CCGS Amundsen, has been derailed as the icebreaker was called to help resupply ships navigate heavy ice in Hudson Bay.

“Obviously it has a large impact on us,” says Martin Fortier, executive director of ArcticNet, which coordinates research on the vessel. “It’s a frustrating situation.”

During the summer, the Amundsen operates as a floating research centre with experiments running 24 hours a day. This year it was scheduled to reach North Baffin Bay.

But the icebreaker has been rerouted to escort commercial ships en route to resupply communities in Northern Quebec on the eastern side of Hudson Bay.

ALL of it here:
Arctic expedition to study global warming put on hold because of too much ice photos Twitchy

I guess if the earth needs ice growth, the best thing to do is send a research ship toward existing ice and magically more ice appears around the ships unexpectedly. Funny stuff!!!!

Oh the ice is melting, the ice is melting, oh wait, send a research ship out and see all the ice that ain't melting.

sure seems that way. lol
it makes me sick to see how these People will LIE and manipulate the truth for their hurtful Agendas on US.

they're losing the battle of the lie though. It is why they are in here daily making up more lies on top of lies. Now the ice in Hudson Bay has nothing to do with Arctic ice build. As an Obonekanoby' mind plants, "that is not ice build that is ice melt move along to another ship".

Er, the ice is a sign of Climate Changes, just as predicted by the models. See the oceans absorb 90% of the heat and the heat makes more ice

Yeah, that's the ticket

oh that is too funny, I just laughed out loud. it is amazing.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I wonder how much energy it would take to heat 1.35 B cubic kilometers of water by .9 degrees

 

[Billy_Bob]

I wonder how much energy it would take to heat 1.35 B cubic kilometers of water by .9 degrees

You dont want to know.... I can assure you it is far more than NOAA's 700 Zeta-Joules...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I wonder how much energy it would take to heat 1.35 B cubic kilometers of water by .9 degrees

You dont want to know.... I can assure you it is far more than NOAA's 700 Zeta-Joules...

1 calorie per degree per gram so how many grams in 1.3 B cubic kilometers

1 million grams per cubic meter* 1.3billion cubic kilometers... Yeah CO2 has to cause a thermonuclear reaction to generate the heat the AGWCult requires

 

[ScienceRocks]

It will be funny when the next decade(2014-2024) warms .3c!!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It will be funny when the next decade(2014-2024) warms .3c!!!

1 calorie to warm 1 gram of water 1 degree

100,000 grams to a Cubic meter

1.35 cubic kilograms of water (90% of AGW) on planet Earth

1.35E18 grams, takes 1.35E18 calories or 5.64E21 joules times Matthews absurd .3 degrees = 1.7E21 Joules

Matthew please show us how a wisp of CO2 will generate the 1.7E 21 watts of energy needed to cause the .3 degree warming

 

[jc456]

Poor Frank has sunk to the level of "greenhouse effect denier", and is now officially among the dumbest of the dumb, at the level of SSDD and jc.

Boohoo Frank, the whole world thinks you're a dishonest loon. That's clearly our fault. We're so sorry. If we stop pointing at you and laughing, will you stop crying about it on every thread?

The whole world? See, every thing in excess for you

BTW, show a list greater than the 75 scientists who agreed with you.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Poor Frank has sunk to the level of "greenhouse effect denier", and is now officially among the dumbest of the dumb, at the level of SSDD and jc.

Boohoo Frank, the whole world thinks you're a dishonest loon. That's clearly our fault. We're so sorry. If we stop pointing at you and laughing, will you stop crying about it on every thread?

Instead of showing us mathematically how 10 ppm of CO2 will generate 1.7E21 joules, mammoth flings pooh.

Who didn't see that coming?