Pro-Choice or Pro-Forced Pregnancy?

Pro-Choice or Pro-Forced Pregnancy?


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I preferto call them anti- freedom lovers. They rail on and on about government and liberals wanting to nanny their freedoms with smoking and foods. This is no different. They are hypocrites.
Absolutely nothing wrong with freedom.
Freedom of Choice. :cool:
Some choices have consequences.
Be prepared to face them if you make that choice.

But "forced pregnancy", Marc???
:cuckoo:

Most "pro-lifers", myself included, make the distictions of rape, incest, and the health of the mother.

So, AGAIN, how about some stats on "forced pregnancies"?????

No such thing?

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If it is the womans' body and sole responsibility then she has absolute authority, no?


Another human being isn't your body

Of course, if she has absolute authority then she has absolute responsibility. I assume you oppose child support and all aid programs?
What sob stories? The cold brutal truth is that economics always come into play. That it is monetarily cheaper to have an occasional abortion than it is to purchase contraception over the course of the reproductive years.

In just about any sizable city, you can get free birth control

Just how much unprotected fucking are you doing? Maybe you should stop sleeping around with ever Tom, Dick, and Harry if you're not grown up enough to provide for a child
Have you ever had a chance to interview women that have had abortions? Tested their educational level on contraceptives?

Yep

Lots of willful ignorance. Always the excuse: why bother? What's what abortions are for. I'll just kill it.
 
Just how much unprotected fucking are you doing? Maybe you should stop sleeping around with ever Tom, Dick, and Harry if you're not grown up enough to provide for a child

I'm assuming that is the general you and not directed at me, the individual.

And you are absolutely correct. Any child that the mother cannot support should suffer the consequences.

In just about any sizable city, you can get free birth control

This is not true.

And again, if another human being is in the body of another human being, then the one on the inside is the one that is under the absolute authority of the host. It lives or dies upon their permission. If you are the only person in the world that I can use for a kidney donation, do I have the right to demand your kidney?
 
The bottom line is that in a non-agrarian world, a women needs to have control over how many babies she supports. To spout off some nonsense that we are all to ignore our genetically programmed instincts for companionship, love and the continuation of the race is as ridiculous as requiring the castration of every male that conceives an unwanted child.

Want to eliminate abortion? Support research that offers better control over conception.

And just in case anyone wants a reality check, the pregnancy and abortion rate have both declined rather dramatically. In 1982 at it's peak, abortion ended 30% of pregnancies, which has been reduced to 13% in 2007. Link

and support education in the use of contraception.

but for the pro-birthers it's about punishment of the harlots. it's the modern day version of the scarlet A. you don't hear them talking about the man who also chose to have sex. you see them talking about the woman and how she "chose" to have sex (as if that choice was made alone.

and notice that most anti-choice activists are men who have never been able to tolerate women having control over their own bodies (read: independence), it's been that way since the 60's when the first birth control pill hit the market.

This statement ^ should be bronzed and put on the front of every government building in the USA.


When we want trite stupidity, we'll have Ravi paint up something.

Most of those who contest the legality of abortion are women. And none of us want anyone branded as anything. It is not a movement to eradicate birth control or force breeder women to become babymaking machines. Those are fantasies of pro-abortionists.

We want women to control their own bodies. But not to use them as weapons. Abortion does not help women. PP is a huge industry, like pornography, that feeds off of women. But PP is more revolting even than the porn industry, because it poses a threat to the lives not only of women but their babies as well. Abortion is marketed to women as "freedom" and "choice" and "control". It isn't. It is depravity, murder, manipulation, and exploitation...in a killer clown suit.
 
The best quote ever on this: "Aren't you glad your mom was Pro-Life?"
 
You chose to create the child.


To compare that to a stranger's need for an organ is disingenuous at best

If I chose to create a child, I wouldn't be having an abortion. I would be having a baby.

I find the comparison very similar. To deny the life you can provide to a stranger just because of their status as a stranger is just as effectively killing them as abortion kills.
 
You chose to create the child.


To compare that to a stranger's need for an organ is disingenuous at best

If I chose to create a child, I wouldn't be having an abortion.
You have to create it before you can kill it. Every killing of an unborn child necessarily follows its creation.

If you didn't want to have a baby, why didn't you choose to avoid creating one?

You made your choice
 
Bullshit.

1/3 of abortion customers are repeat business

It is possible to be 99% effective when it comes to pregnancy prevention

93 percent of abortions are done as birth control out of convenience

Assessing the Need
Contraceptive use drastically reduces the chances of unintended pregnancy. Over the course of a year, only 8% of women using the pill will become pregnant, compared with 85% of sexually active women not using contraceptives. This fact alone helps explain why the 7% of U.S. women at risk of unintended pregnancy who do not practice contraception account for almost half of the country's unintended pregnancies.


The 99% figure is guesswork based on perfect use. Even tubal ligation has a .5% failure rate. Unintended pregnancy is heavily concentrated in the lower end of the income scale due to the cost of contraceptives and other factors.

How much do you think the abortion rate would drop if we had an effective form of contraception for males beyond condoms and vasectomy? Why isn't this pursued more?

Do you consider a pregnancy a mere inconvenience? You wouldn't consider that a life-altering event with repercussions that will have a long-term affect on the woman and the children she may already be supporting?

60% of abortions are obtained by women that already have one child.

57% of abortions are obtained by women that are 20 - 29.

42% of abortions are obtained by women that make less than 10,000 a year.

That's convenience like self-amputation is the convenient way to free yourself from a boulder in a canyon.

Maybe men should keep their dick in their pants.

How about the women keeping their legs crossed...if the subject of "an unwanted pregnancy" is so important to them?
 
How about the women keeping their legs crossed...if the subject of "an unwanted pregnancy" is so important to them?

My mom used to tell my friends and I to use the aspirin method of birth control - put an aspirin between your knees and don't drop it - you won't get pregnant.

Simple, but effective.


Otherwise, if you're gonna have sex, you better be responsible and be prepared. Don't leave something that important up to someone else's discretion.
 
How about the women keeping their legs crossed...if the subject of "an unwanted pregnancy" is so important to them?

My mom used to tell my friends and I to use the aspirin method of birth control - put an aspirin between your knees and don't drop it - you won't get pregnant.

Simple, but effective.


Otherwise, if you're gonna have sex, you better be responsible and be prepared. Don't leave something that important up to someone else's discretion.

I agree. Especially when their whole argument is based on women's rights...and being independant from men.
 
Otherwise, if you're gonna have sex, you better be responsible and be prepared. Don't leave something that important up to someone else's discretion.
Don't you know you can only tell men not to sleep around if they don't want to be responsible for a baby?

Asking personal responsibility of women is sexist- somehow
 
From what I've seen of pro-choice rallies; most of the women in favor of abortion are women ya wouldn't wanna screw in the first place
:lol:




To Snjmom,
I always thought it made more sense to take the bullets out of the gun rather than wear a bullet-proof vest
:cool:
 
When someone says they are "Pro-Life" they are in a nutshell... liars. :eusa_liar:

What they are - is strictly "pro-undeveloped embryo" and that's it.


Ironically.... "Pro-Lifer's" don't care about most other "LIFE". :cuckoo:


"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of the mother.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of doctors.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of full grown Human Beings.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of young raped girls.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of young raped women.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of people (Americans or foreigners) killed by war.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of innocent people killed by the "Death Penalty".

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of people killed by disease.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of people killed by unsafe work conditions.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of people killed by unsafe products.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of people killed by pollution.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of stray or unwanted pets killed by being "put to sleep".

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of trees "killed" by loggers or deforestation.



If "Pro-Lifer's" were really "Pro-Life" they would fight for legislation to prevent war, disease and violence against women but encourage nuclear plant safety, workplace safety, safe food, air and water or anything else that actually protects and promotes the life of actual living human beings not just a few unknown, undeveloped cells.
 
When someone says they are "Pro-Life" they are in a nutshell... liars. :eusa_liar:

What they are - is strictly "pro-undeveloped embryo" and that's it.


Ironically.... "Pro-Lifer's" don't care about most other "LIFE". :cuckoo:


"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of the mother.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of doctors.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of full grown Human Beings.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of young raped girls.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of young raped women.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of people (Americans or foreigners) killed by war.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of innocent people killed by the "Death Penalty".

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of people killed by disease.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of people killed by unsafe work conditions.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of people killed by unsafe products.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of people killed by pollution.

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of stray or unwanted pets killed by being "put to sleep".

"Pro-Lifer's" don't care about the "LIFE" of trees "killed" by loggers or deforestation.



If "Pro-Lifer's" were really "Pro-Life" they would fight for legislation to prevent war, disease and violence against women but encourage nuclear plant safety, workplace safety, safe food, air and water or anything else that actually protects and promotes the life of actual living human beings not just a few unknown, undeveloped cells.

This has got to be the most moronic first post by a newby this board has seen. :cuckoo:

Welcome to the board, I guess.
 

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