President, Admit the Obvious on Iran Deal

[Davey T]

I can't believe there are people stupid enough to believe Iran would nuke New York. What a pack of credulous pants-shitting retards!

They believed Bush when he spun up a bunch of bullshit about yellowcake and aluminum tubes, seems they will never learn.

And then people believed Obama would get us out of Iraq as "the first thing he would do if elected President." Seems both sides have more than enough suckers to consider sitting back and shutting the fuck up for once... However we all know you... er, they won't. =)

He got us out of Iraq as per the agreement signed by president Bush and did it a few days early, WTF are you talking about?

Obama walked away from the war in Iraq. ISIS took over beheading people and now we are back in with boots on the ground. Some achievement. Why are we talking about Iraq?

 

[Davey T]

We aint going to war with iran
We aint going to spend another decade and another 2 trilion bucks rebuilding it
Instead we should stay in America and build America.

Fuck you blood thirsty republicans!

A very intelligent, well thought out retort. Now, consider this. We may not want to go to war with Iran, but Iran wants to go to war with us. AND, THEY HAVE BEEN for decades. They are killing Americans all the time and if they get the bomb along with the rockets to send them to New York like they said they are going to do, then, as you say, we can all stay here and rebuild.

Why do you think this agreement closes the door on reimposing sanctions or even attacking them in the highly unlikely event they can hide any sort of nuclear capability from us? Listening to some of you it is apparent you are unaware of the industrial scale of a nuclear missile program. It would be like trying to hide an entire petrochemical industry.

This agreement allows them to build their nuclear weapons. This agreement gives them the ability to purchase intercontinental missiles. This agreement gives them $150 Billion now and allows them out of the sanction box they were in. This agreement provides for the US to PROTECT their industrial sites against military or cyber attacks. In other words, if Israel attacks their sites, this agreement provides that we go to war WITH ISRAEL. This agreement precludes inspections at their Parchin site. What did we get out of this agreement? We were better off without one.

You might want to get your details on the deal from someone other than whatever hysterical conservative pundit you listen to. The facts are that the only significant opposition to this deal are the warhawk conservatives in America, Israel and Iran and they regularly lie about the state of the threats to their respective countries to keep people scared. Why do you let people scare you?

This response is pure liberal. State that your facts on the agreement are wrong, call people liars and warhawks, etc. Right out of Hillary talking points. Here is where I get my facts you clueless, lying left winger. From the agreement itself. Read it and then talk. Iran Deal Text

 

[occupied]

I can't believe there are people stupid enough to believe Iran would nuke New York. What a pack of credulous pants-shitting retards!

They believed Bush when he spun up a bunch of bullshit about yellowcake and aluminum tubes, seems they will never learn.

And then people believed Obama would get us out of Iraq as "the first thing he would do if elected President." Seems both sides have more than enough suckers to consider sitting back and shutting the fuck up for once... However we all know you... er, they won't. =)

He got us out of Iraq as per the agreement signed by president Bush and did it a few days early, WTF are you talking about?

Obama walked away from the war in Iraq. ISIS took over beheading people and now we are back in with boots on the ground. Some achievement. Why are we talking about Iraq?

The same people who told you we should attack Iraq and try to own the place are the same ones who are telling you to oppose the Iran deal, please try to keep up. You are listening people who have proven themselves unable to accurately assess a threat or deal with one properly.

 

[Davey T]

I can't believe there are people stupid enough to believe Iran would nuke New York. What a pack of credulous pants-shitting retards!

They believed Bush when he spun up a bunch of bullshit about yellowcake and aluminum tubes, seems they will never learn.

And then people believed Obama would get us out of Iraq as "the first thing he would do if elected President." Seems both sides have more than enough suckers to consider sitting back and shutting the fuck up for once... However we all know you... er, they won't. =)

He got us out of Iraq as per the agreement signed by president Bush and did it a few days early, WTF are you talking about?

Obama walked away from the war in Iraq. ISIS took over beheading people and now we are back in with boots on the ground. Some achievement. Why are we talking about Iraq?

The same people who told you we should attack Iraq and try to own the place are the same ones who are telling you to oppose the Iran deal, please try to keep up. You are listening people who have proven themselves unable to accurately assess a threat or deal with one properly.

People will die and wars will start because of this agreement. Giving terrorists $150 billion and nukes is what this does. What could go wrong?

 

[occupied]

We aint going to war with iran
We aint going to spend another decade and another 2 trilion bucks rebuilding it
Instead we should stay in America and build America.

Fuck you blood thirsty republicans!

A very intelligent, well thought out retort. Now, consider this. We may not want to go to war with Iran, but Iran wants to go to war with us. AND, THEY HAVE BEEN for decades. They are killing Americans all the time and if they get the bomb along with the rockets to send them to New York like they said they are going to do, then, as you say, we can all stay here and rebuild.

Why do you think this agreement closes the door on reimposing sanctions or even attacking them in the highly unlikely event they can hide any sort of nuclear capability from us? Listening to some of you it is apparent you are unaware of the industrial scale of a nuclear missile program. It would be like trying to hide an entire petrochemical industry.

This agreement allows them to build their nuclear weapons. This agreement gives them the ability to purchase intercontinental missiles. This agreement gives them $150 Billion now and allows them out of the sanction box they were in. This agreement provides for the US to PROTECT their industrial sites against military or cyber attacks. In other words, if Israel attacks their sites, this agreement provides that we go to war WITH ISRAEL. This agreement precludes inspections at their Parchin site. What did we get out of this agreement? We were better off without one.

You might want to get your details on the deal from someone other than whatever hysterical conservative pundit you listen to. The facts are that the only significant opposition to this deal are the warhawk conservatives in America, Israel and Iran and they regularly lie about the state of the threats to their respective countries to keep people scared. Why do you let people scare you?

This response is pure liberal. State that your facts on the agreement are wrong, call people liars and warhawks, etc. Right out of Hillary talking points. Here is where I get my facts you clueless, lying left winger. From the agreement itself. Read it and then talk. Iran Deal Text

I am familiar with the outline, it does nothing that even resembles allowing them to build nuclear weapons. They will give up 98%of their enriched U235 stockpile, half of their centrifuges and permanantly disable their heavy water facility. They will be limited to low grade enrichment suitable only for nuclear power. Inspectors are very good at their jobs BTW, not going to be able to hide any serious activity from them. UN sanctions slam back in place if they do not comply and military action is always on the table. You mischaracterize this as some sort of defeat when sanctions worked exactly as planned and we got most of what we wanted.On the other hand it looks like Obama is defusing another one of your favorite villians without massive destruction and bloodshed, sucks to be you I guess.

 

[francoHFW]

OP- I'll go with all our allies and the UN, rather the greedy idiot billionaire Fox etc etc bs/infotainment.obstruction Service and the hater dupes, thanks. Our RW nuts and Iran's should be ignored.

 

[Little-Acorn]

We aint going to war with iran

Right. Iran is going to war with us.

 

[Little-Acorn]

I am familiar with the outline, it does nothing that even resembles allowing them to build nuclear weapons. They will give up 98%of their enriched U235 stockpile, half of their centrifuges and permanantly disable their heavy water facility. They will be limited to low grade enrichment suitable only for nuclear power.

These leftist fanatics are so cute when they solemnly lecture normal people that Iran will keep its agreement.

 

[occupied]

They believed Bush when he spun up a bunch of bullshit about yellowcake and aluminum tubes, seems they will never learn.

And then people believed Obama would get us out of Iraq as "the first thing he would do if elected President." Seems both sides have more than enough suckers to consider sitting back and shutting the fuck up for once... However we all know you... er, they won't. =)

He got us out of Iraq as per the agreement signed by president Bush and did it a few days early, WTF are you talking about?

Obama walked away from the war in Iraq. ISIS took over beheading people and now we are back in with boots on the ground. Some achievement. Why are we talking about Iraq?

The same people who told you we should attack Iraq and try to own the place are the same ones who are telling you to oppose the Iran deal, please try to keep up. You are listening people who have proven themselves unable to accurately assess a threat or deal with one properly.

People will die and wars will start because of this agreement. Giving terrorists $150 billion and nukes is what this does. What could go wrong?

What could go right? The deal could work, Iran becomes a more moderate nation and we do not have to kill half the country and prove the conservative Iranian leadship right. Have you not even considered the effect of no more sanctions and threats of invasion on an Iraninan leadership that has survived thirty years and justified a lot of hardship mostly because or sanctions and very real foreign threats?The ball is in their court now and they will quickly run out of excuses. The economy alone brought Iran to the brink of a secular revolution just a few years ago, if things do not improve quickly there, the Ahatollahs will be running for their lives.

 

[Davey T]

And then people believed Obama would get us out of Iraq as "the first thing he would do if elected President." Seems both sides have more than enough suckers to consider sitting back and shutting the fuck up for once... However we all know you... er, they won't. =)

He got us out of Iraq as per the agreement signed by president Bush and did it a few days early, WTF are you talking about?

Obama walked away from the war in Iraq. ISIS took over beheading people and now we are back in with boots on the ground. Some achievement. Why are we talking about Iraq?

The same people who told you we should attack Iraq and try to own the place are the same ones who are telling you to oppose the Iran deal, please try to keep up. You are listening people who have proven themselves unable to accurately assess a threat or deal with one properly.

People will die and wars will start because of this agreement. Giving terrorists $150 billion and nukes is what this does. What could go wrong?

What could go right? The deal could work, Iran becomes a more moderate nation and we do not have to kill half the country and prove the conservative Iranian leadship right. Have you not even considered the effect of no more sanctions and threats of invasion on an Iraninan leadership that has survived thirty years and justified a lot of hardship mostly because or sanctions and very real foreign threats?The ball is in their court now and they will quickly run out of excuses. The economy alone brought Iran to the brink of a secular revolution just a few years ago, if things do not improve quickly there, the Ahatollahs will be running for their lives.

Well, history will tell which side of this discussion is correct. I truly hope I am way off base.

 

[eagle1462010]

We will get the same result as Clinton got....................
Another wacked country with the bomb..................
Just like North Korea............

And in this deal he couldn't even get 4 of our people back.............
Yep, Obama and Kerry are real poker players......

LOL

 

[occupied]

I am familiar with the outline, it does nothing that even resembles allowing them to build nuclear weapons. They will give up 98%of their enriched U235 stockpile, half of their centrifuges and permanantly disable their heavy water facility. They will be limited to low grade enrichment suitable only for nuclear power.

These leftist fanatics are so cute when they solemnly lecture normal people that Iran will keep its agreement.

I believe they will, if only to avoid the certainty that Israel would get to strut across the world stage saying: "See?We told you they were not to be trusted, let's bomb them immediately". Not to mention, the sanctions go right back in place, their international trade will collapse and war becomes almost a certaint. I do not think they want a nuclear program that badly anymore but are not going to just submit to the west. Giving them a way out that saves face is a diplomatic masterstroke that is, of course, lost on you.

 

[occupied]

We will get the same result as Clinton got....................
Another wacked country with the bomb..................
Just like North Korea............

And in this deal he couldn't even get 4 of our people back.............
Yep, Obama and Kerry are real poker players......

LOL

The Iranian people will never allow themselves to be starved to death just so their leadership could have a bomb as in N Korea. Iran came to the table mostly because the grumbling over the economy is getting pretty loud over there and the next attempt at a secular revolution would probably be successful if the talks had failed. The Ahatollahs have shown a willingness in the past to compromise (slowly) to keep their position.

The talks on the nuclear deal were restricted to sanctions and the nuclear program. Trying to put in a bunch of side demands would have sunk it as you well know.

 

[eagle1462010]

We will get the same result as Clinton got....................
Another wacked country with the bomb..................
Just like North Korea............

And in this deal he couldn't even get 4 of our people back.............
Yep, Obama and Kerry are real poker players......

LOL

The Iranian people will never allow themselves to be starved to death just so their leadership could have a bomb as in N Korea. Iran came to the table mostly because the grumbling over the economy is getting pretty loud over there and the next attempt at a secular revolution would probably be successful if the talks had failed. The Ahatollahs have shown a willingness in the past to compromise (slowly) to keep their position.

The talks on the nuclear deal were restricted to sanctions and the nuclear program. Trying to put in a bunch of side demands would have sunk it as you well know.

Getting 4 of our people back is a bunch of deals.................LOL

Sell that Snake oil to someone else.

 

[occupied]

We will get the same result as Clinton got....................
Another wacked country with the bomb..................
Just like North Korea............

And in this deal he couldn't even get 4 of our people back.............
Yep, Obama and Kerry are real poker players......

LOL

The Iranian people will never allow themselves to be starved to death just so their leadership could have a bomb as in N Korea. Iran came to the table mostly because the grumbling over the economy is getting pretty loud over there and the next attempt at a secular revolution would probably be successful if the talks had failed. The Ahatollahs have shown a willingness in the past to compromise (slowly) to keep their position.

The talks on the nuclear deal were restricted to sanctions and the nuclear program. Trying to put in a bunch of side demands would have sunk it as you well know.

Getting 4 of our people back is a bunch of deals.................LOL

Sell that Snake oil to someone else.

That was the framework of the deal, baby steps, those people will probably be released later in separate, more low level talks. Getting Iran back into the family of nations and acting civil is not going to happen overnight but we are going in the right direction. You guys are great at making enemies but that shit has to end sometime.

 

[eagle1462010]

We will get the same result as Clinton got....................
Another wacked country with the bomb..................
Just like North Korea............

And in this deal he couldn't even get 4 of our people back.............
Yep, Obama and Kerry are real poker players......

LOL

The Iranian people will never allow themselves to be starved to death just so their leadership could have a bomb as in N Korea. Iran came to the table mostly because the grumbling over the economy is getting pretty loud over there and the next attempt at a secular revolution would probably be successful if the talks had failed. The Ahatollahs have shown a willingness in the past to compromise (slowly) to keep their position.

The talks on the nuclear deal were restricted to sanctions and the nuclear program. Trying to put in a bunch of side demands would have sunk it as you well know.

Getting 4 of our people back is a bunch of deals.................LOL

Sell that Snake oil to someone else.

That was the framework of the deal, baby steps, those people will probably be released later in separate, more low level talks. Getting Iran back into the family of nations and acting civil is not going to happen overnight but we are going in the right direction. You guys are great at making enemies but that shit has to end sometime.

Yeah right......and I believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus....................

Your bs will give them the Nuke..........History will prove it.................You are Naive..............

 

[occupied]

We will get the same result as Clinton got....................
Another wacked country with the bomb..................
Just like North Korea............

And in this deal he couldn't even get 4 of our people back.............
Yep, Obama and Kerry are real poker players......

LOL

The Iranian people will never allow themselves to be starved to death just so their leadership could have a bomb as in N Korea. Iran came to the table mostly because the grumbling over the economy is getting pretty loud over there and the next attempt at a secular revolution would probably be successful if the talks had failed. The Ahatollahs have shown a willingness in the past to compromise (slowly) to keep their position.

The talks on the nuclear deal were restricted to sanctions and the nuclear program. Trying to put in a bunch of side demands would have sunk it as you well know.

Getting 4 of our people back is a bunch of deals.................LOL

Sell that Snake oil to someone else.

That was the framework of the deal, baby steps, those people will probably be released later in separate, more low level talks. Getting Iran back into the family of nations and acting civil is not going to happen overnight but we are going in the right direction. You guys are great at making enemies but that shit has to end sometime.

Yeah right......and I believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus....................

Your bs will give them the Nuke..........History will prove it.................You are Naive..............

The more you actually know what an active nuclear weapons program entails and the capabilites of both inspectors and our espionage services to detect illicit activity the more ludicrous the idea that they could hide it from us by any other means than denying access to inspectors. If they do that the deal is broken and we go back to how it was with an excellent justification for sanctions and maybe military action. In short, if inspections are allowed they can hide nothing as huge as a nuclear weapons program.

 

[Little-Acorn]

These leftist fanatics are so cute when they solemnly lecture normal people that Iran will keep its agreement.

I believe they will

See? There goes another one!