PLO chief Mahmoud Abbas quits leadership post

[MJB12741]

As long as Hamas prevails over Gaza, no matter who will next rule the West Bank the Palis will continue to suffer by their own doing. LONG LIVE HAMAS.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Of course I have a video.

Of course you have a YouTube video. Who cares?

Why ask a question if you have no interest in the answer?

I don't ask questions of goofy YouTube cut and pasters.

Here, if you prefer an answer in print.

Vanity Fair
has obtained confidential documents, since corroborated by sources in the U.S. and Palestine, which lay bare a covert initiative, approved by Bush and implemented by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams, to provoke a Palestinian civil war. The plan was for forces led by Dahlan, and armed with new weapons supplied at America’s behest, to give Fatah the muscle it needed to remove the democratically elected Hamas-led government from power.

But the secret plan backfired, resulting in a further setback for American foreign policy under Bush. Instead of driving its enemies out of power, the U.S.-backed Fatah fighters inadvertently provoked Hamas to seize total control of Gaza.

The Gaza Bombshell​

That was a great story. "Confidential documents", "corroborated by sources", none of which are available.

The biggest proof that it is true is that it matches the facts on the ground. Those cannot be disputed.

 

[Hollie]

Of course you have a YouTube video. Who cares?

Why ask a question if you have no interest in the answer?

I don't ask questions of goofy YouTube cut and pasters.

Here, if you prefer an answer in print.

Vanity Fair
has obtained confidential documents, since corroborated by sources in the U.S. and Palestine, which lay bare a covert initiative, approved by Bush and implemented by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams, to provoke a Palestinian civil war. The plan was for forces led by Dahlan, and armed with new weapons supplied at America’s behest, to give Fatah the muscle it needed to remove the democratically elected Hamas-led government from power.

But the secret plan backfired, resulting in a further setback for American foreign policy under Bush. Instead of driving its enemies out of power, the U.S.-backed Fatah fighters inadvertently provoked Hamas to seize total control of Gaza.

The Gaza Bombshell​

That was a great story. "Confidential documents", "corroborated by sources", none of which are available.

The biggest proof that it is true is that it matches the facts on the ground. Those cannot be disputed.

It certainly can be disputed. Your version of " facts" tend to be less than credible. Islamo-facts reflect an alternate reality.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why ask a question if you have no interest in the answer?

I don't ask questions of goofy YouTube cut and pasters.

Here, if you prefer an answer in print.

Vanity Fair
has obtained confidential documents, since corroborated by sources in the U.S. and Palestine, which lay bare a covert initiative, approved by Bush and implemented by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams, to provoke a Palestinian civil war. The plan was for forces led by Dahlan, and armed with new weapons supplied at America’s behest, to give Fatah the muscle it needed to remove the democratically elected Hamas-led government from power.

But the secret plan backfired, resulting in a further setback for American foreign policy under Bush. Instead of driving its enemies out of power, the U.S.-backed Fatah fighters inadvertently provoked Hamas to seize total control of Gaza.

The Gaza Bombshell​

That was a great story. "Confidential documents", "corroborated by sources", none of which are available.

The biggest proof that it is true is that it matches the facts on the ground. Those cannot be disputed.

It certainly can be disputed. Your version of " facts" tend to be less than credible. Islamo-facts reflect an alternate reality.

You are being vague. What can be disputed?

 

[Hollie]

I don't ask questions of goofy YouTube cut and pasters.

Here, if you prefer an answer in print.

Vanity Fair
has obtained confidential documents, since corroborated by sources in the U.S. and Palestine, which lay bare a covert initiative, approved by Bush and implemented by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams, to provoke a Palestinian civil war. The plan was for forces led by Dahlan, and armed with new weapons supplied at America’s behest, to give Fatah the muscle it needed to remove the democratically elected Hamas-led government from power.

But the secret plan backfired, resulting in a further setback for American foreign policy under Bush. Instead of driving its enemies out of power, the U.S.-backed Fatah fighters inadvertently provoked Hamas to seize total control of Gaza.

The Gaza Bombshell​

That was a great story. "Confidential documents", "corroborated by sources", none of which are available.

The biggest proof that it is true is that it matches the facts on the ground. Those cannot be disputed.

It certainly can be disputed. Your version of " facts" tend to be less than credible. Islamo-facts reflect an alternate reality.

You are being vague. What can be disputed?

Your version of facts.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Here, if you prefer an answer in print.

Vanity Fair
has obtained confidential documents, since corroborated by sources in the U.S. and Palestine, which lay bare a covert initiative, approved by Bush and implemented by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams, to provoke a Palestinian civil war. The plan was for forces led by Dahlan, and armed with new weapons supplied at America’s behest, to give Fatah the muscle it needed to remove the democratically elected Hamas-led government from power.

But the secret plan backfired, resulting in a further setback for American foreign policy under Bush. Instead of driving its enemies out of power, the U.S.-backed Fatah fighters inadvertently provoked Hamas to seize total control of Gaza.

The Gaza Bombshell​

That was a great story. "Confidential documents", "corroborated by sources", none of which are available.

The biggest proof that it is true is that it matches the facts on the ground. Those cannot be disputed.

It certainly can be disputed. Your version of " facts" tend to be less than credible. Islamo-facts reflect an alternate reality.

You are being vague. What can be disputed?

Your version of facts.

You are not saying anything.

 

[Hollie]

That was a great story. "Confidential documents", "corroborated by sources", none of which are available.

The biggest proof that it is true is that it matches the facts on the ground. Those cannot be disputed.

It certainly can be disputed. Your version of " facts" tend to be less than credible. Islamo-facts reflect an alternate reality.

You are being vague. What can be disputed?

Your version of facts.

You are not saying anything.

I'm waiting for your YouTube video.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The biggest proof that it is true is that it matches the facts on the ground. Those cannot be disputed.

It certainly can be disputed. Your version of " facts" tend to be less than credible. Islamo-facts reflect an alternate reality.

You are being vague. What can be disputed?

Your version of facts.

You are not saying anything.

I'm waiting for your YouTube video.

Sure.

 

[Hollie]

I wonder if it's possible that some of the old guard at the "Palestinian" Arab Welfare Fraud Collection Agency (AKA) the PLO, PNC, etc., are feeling benevolent and stepping aside to let a new generation of Islamo-welfare cheats have their chance at thievery and corruption.


LIFESTYLES OF THE RICH AND INFAMOUS


Lifestyles of the Rich and Infamous


The Palestinian Authority books were a black hole with billions of dollars from Western and Muslim countries, bribes and foreign aid, going to a network of secret bank accounts and investment portfolios that not only financed terrorism, but also the lifestyles of the men at the top. The audits of the PA in the twilight days of Arafat and afterward were meant to reestablish the credibility of the Authority with foreign donors, while seizing control of the assets stockpiled by Arafat for the benefit of the new bosses.

Mahmoud Abbas, Arafat’s successor, has been accused of hoarding a fortune of 100 million dollars and of owning palaces and property across the Middle East. Those accusations come from Mohammed Rashid, Arafat’s former financial advisor, who knows the ins and outs of Palestinian Authority finances like no one else, and whose own net worth is estimated at being around half a billion dollars.

 

[MJB12741]

That was a great story. "Confidential documents", "corroborated by sources", none of which are available.

The biggest proof that it is true is that it matches the facts on the ground. Those cannot be disputed.

It certainly can be disputed. Your version of " facts" tend to be less than credible. Islamo-facts reflect an alternate reality.

You are being vague. What can be disputed?

Your version of facts.

You are not saying anything.

You always voiced your disapproval of Abbas. Why are you not now elated that his reign over the West Bank is over?

 

[Hollie]

Not wanting to be outdone by the rival Islamic terrorist organization, The Islamic terrorists / welfare cheats representing Hamas Played a game of oneupmanship In the welfare fraud / sleazy criminal endeavor that defines both Islamic terrorist syndicates Pali'land.

LIFESTYLES OF THE RICH AND INFAMOUS


Lifestyles of the Rich and Infamous



Hamas, supposedly elected as a response to Palestinian Authority corruption, is no different than its Fatah counterparts. A Palestinian Authority Minister accused it of stealing 800 million dollars and creating an electricity crisis by charging Gazan Arabs for electricity, but not paying the suppliers, while pocketing the money. Such crises manufactured by malfeasance and corruption are blamed on Israel, with extensive media coverage of Muslims in Gaza sitting in the dark. This leads to more humanitarian assistance, which leads to more corruption, and the cycle goes on.

 

[Phoenall]

Of course you have a YouTube video. Who cares?

Why ask a question if you have no interest in the answer?

I don't ask questions of goofy YouTube cut and pasters.

Here, if you prefer an answer in print.

Vanity Fair
has obtained confidential documents, since corroborated by sources in the U.S. and Palestine, which lay bare a covert initiative, approved by Bush and implemented by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams, to provoke a Palestinian civil war. The plan was for forces led by Dahlan, and armed with new weapons supplied at America’s behest, to give Fatah the muscle it needed to remove the democratically elected Hamas-led government from power.

But the secret plan backfired, resulting in a further setback for American foreign policy under Bush. Instead of driving its enemies out of power, the U.S.-backed Fatah fighters inadvertently provoked Hamas to seize total control of Gaza.

The Gaza Bombshell​

That was a great story. "Confidential documents", "corroborated by sources", none of which are available.

The biggest proof that it is true is that it matches the facts on the ground. Those cannot be disputed.

What facts on the ground would they be, islamonazo propaganda

 

[Phoenall]

I don't ask questions of goofy YouTube cut and pasters.

Here, if you prefer an answer in print.

Vanity Fair
has obtained confidential documents, since corroborated by sources in the U.S. and Palestine, which lay bare a covert initiative, approved by Bush and implemented by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams, to provoke a Palestinian civil war. The plan was for forces led by Dahlan, and armed with new weapons supplied at America’s behest, to give Fatah the muscle it needed to remove the democratically elected Hamas-led government from power.

But the secret plan backfired, resulting in a further setback for American foreign policy under Bush. Instead of driving its enemies out of power, the U.S.-backed Fatah fighters inadvertently provoked Hamas to seize total control of Gaza.

The Gaza Bombshell​

That was a great story. "Confidential documents", "corroborated by sources", none of which are available.

The biggest proof that it is true is that it matches the facts on the ground. Those cannot be disputed.

It certainly can be disputed. Your version of " facts" tend to be less than credible. Islamo-facts reflect an alternate reality.

You are being vague. What can be disputed?

The alleged "FACTS" that you cant or wont produce.

 

[Phoenall]

That was a great story. "Confidential documents", "corroborated by sources", none of which are available.

The biggest proof that it is true is that it matches the facts on the ground. Those cannot be disputed.

It certainly can be disputed. Your version of " facts" tend to be less than credible. Islamo-facts reflect an alternate reality.

You are being vague. What can be disputed?

Your version of facts.

You are not saying anything.

Wrong she is asking for these alleged "FACTS" that you cant or wont produce

 

[Phoenall]

The same old islamonazi propaganda from the chief of islamonazi propaganda

The biggest proof that it is true is that it matches the facts on the ground. Those cannot be disputed.

It certainly can be disputed. Your version of " facts" tend to be less than credible. Islamo-facts reflect an alternate reality.

You are being vague. What can be disputed?

Your version of facts.

You are not saying anything.

Wrong she is asking for these alleged "FACTS" that you cant or wont produce

 

[Hollie]

Say it with me: the plight of the poor, oppressed Palestinians™


Palestinian President Constructing $13 Million Palace

Palestinian President Constructing $13 Million Palace

Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas is constructing a $13 million palace in the West Bank, despite the country being crippled by financial woes.

The project, titled the Presidential Guest Palace in Surda, Ramallah, is listed as an ongoing project on the official website of the Palestinian Economic Council for Development & Reconstruction (PECDAR). It is due to take two years to complete, though the project's start date is not clear from the website.

 

[Phoenall]

Say it with me: the plight of the poor, oppressed Palestinians™


Palestinian President Constructing $13 Million Palace

Palestinian President Constructing $13 Million Palace

Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas is constructing a $13 million palace in the West Bank, despite the country being crippled by financial woes.

The project, titled the Presidential Guest Palace in Surda, Ramallah, is listed as an ongoing project on the official website of the Palestinian Economic Council for Development & Reconstruction (PECDAR). It is due to take two years to complete, though the project's start date is not clear from the website.

At least it will be a clear target for Israel the next time the Palestinians kick off

 

[P F Tinmore]

The biggest proof that it is true is that it matches the facts on the ground. Those cannot be disputed.

It certainly can be disputed. Your version of " facts" tend to be less than credible. Islamo-facts reflect an alternate reality.

You are being vague. What can be disputed?

Your version of facts.

You are not saying anything.

Wrong she is asking for these alleged "FACTS" that you cant or wont produce

OK, facts.

Fatah lost the elections.

Fatah runs the "PA" in the West Bank.

There is a story between those two indisputable facts.

 

[Phoenall]

It certainly can be disputed. Your version of " facts" tend to be less than credible. Islamo-facts reflect an alternate reality.

You are being vague. What can be disputed?

Your version of facts.

You are not saying anything.

Wrong she is asking for these alleged "FACTS" that you cant or wont produce

OK, facts.

Fatah lost the elections.

Fatah runs the "PA" in the West Bank.

There is a story between those two indisputable facts.

Because hamas decided to go on a murder spree and rid gaza of all fatah supporters, So fatah did the same in the west bank. Then hamas stopped holding P.A. meetings leaving Palestine without any leadership and no way of interacting with the rest of the world. So the arab world elected fatah to take on that role and told hamas it was no longer seen as the ruling party. So we have two factions and two lands which is why I see a 3 state solution as the only way forward.

 

[RoccoR]

Phoenall, Hollie, P F Tinmore, et al,

For all practical purposes there ARE two separate entities of Palestine --- per se - de jure sovereign states; Gaza and the West Bank.

The Ramallah Government can pretend all it wants, that they have effective, sovereign or administrative control over the Gaza Strip; but it would not be true. In fact, the Gaza Government politically operates completely independent of the Ramallah Government,; except as a finance conduit. And the Ramallah Government takes no responsibility for the hostile actions HAMAS takes in the furtherance of their agenda.

We all pretend that the Declaration of Independence by the Palestinians in November 1988 had somehow established a cohesive voice and platform for the Palestinian people. But the Palestinian People have made a complete shambles of it.

So we have two factions and two lands which is why I see a 3 state solution as the only way forward.

(COMMENT)

For the Palestinians to have a Contemporary Leadership, they must be able to do four key things:

1. Appreciate and nurture talent – Leaders must not be afraid to hire people who are smarter or more talented than they are. Often, leaders are not the most talented people in their organizations. The head of Disney animation could not draw. The head of the research center where the PC was invented was not a computer engineer.
2. Focus on what is important – When an organization loses sight of its main goals, it becomes a slogging bureaucracy. Physicist Richard Feynman worked on the WWII Manhattan Project to develop the atomic bomb. To maintain security, the U.S. Army initially refused to tell the scientists what their calculations would be used to do; Feynman objected. He persuaded the generals to tell the physicists what they were working on and what role it would serve in ending WWII. Once the physicists knew the importance of the work, they improved the process and worked faster.
3. Build trust – Trust unites a group with motivation and integrity.
4. Develop a close tie between leaders and followers – on either the international level --- or --- the domestic level where a bond with followers to create an emotional link that pulls everyone in the organization to a higher level.
SOURCE: Contemporary Issues in Leadership by Robert L. Taylor and William E. Rosenbach (Editors) Westview Press © 2006
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I see no evidence that the Palestinians show an appreciation for talent, or in any way nurture. Most ascensions in the ranks of Palestinian Political organization is due to death or political backstabbing. Nor can the Palestinians agree among themselves what is important of the Palestinian People, let alone what the major nations of the world recommend the Palestinians focus on. Whatever the Palestinian Leadership thinks is important enough to focus on, it is not regions peace and security. The Palestinian Leadership seldom agrees among themselves on what is important, on the future intentions, or in the manner of the relationships they have established internationally; but are more notoriously known for saying one thing to Arab/Muslim audiences --- and --- the near exact opposite to Israeli, the Quartet, and the greater International Community.

To date, all the Palestinians have done is demonstrate that with all the time that they have had and with all the donor financing they have received --- they haven't been able to pull the nation together either in peace, commerce or other critical developments. It is a failed state thus far.

Most Respectfully,
R