Please stop trying tell black people about MLK

[IM2]

The homestead acts.
Racism still kept many blacks from getting it but MANY did.

Southern blacks didn't own millions of anything. Both my parents were from the south.

Yea, idk about millions of acres, but many got land.

Google it, Black land ownership post Civil War was nearly 15 million acres by 1910.

It's funny how some whites here take half a story then useit to argue against fact.

In the 45 years following the Civil War, freed
 slaves and their descendants accumulated roughly 15 million acres of land across the United States, most of it in the South. Land ownership meant stability and opportunity for black families, a shot at upward mobility and economic security for future generations. The hard-won property was generally used for farming, the primary occupation of most Southern blacks in the early 20th century. By 1920, there were 925,000 black-owned farms, representing about 14 percent of all farms in the United States.

Over the course of the 20th century, however, that number dropped precipitously. Millions of farmers of all races were pushed off their land in the early part of the century, including around 600,000 black farmers. By 1975, just 45,000 black-owned farms remained. “It was almost as if the earth was opening up and swallowing black farmers,” writes scholar Pete Daniel in his book Dispossession: Discrimination Against African American Farmers in the Age of Civil Rights. Implicit in the decline of black farming was the loss of the land those farmers once tilled. Today, African Americans compose less than 2 percent of the nation’s farmers and 1 percent of its 
rural landowners.

Many factors contributed to the loss of black-owned land during the 20th century, including systemic discrimination in lending by the US Department of Agriculture, the industrialization that lured workers into factories, and the Great Migration. But the lesser-known issue of heirs’ property also played a role, allowing untold thousands of acres to be forcibly bought out from under black rural families—often second-, third-, or fourth-generation landowners whose ancestors were 
enslaved—by real-estate developers and speculators.

By one estimate, 81 percent of these early black landowners didn’t make wills, largely due to a lack of access to legal resources. Their descendants then inherited the land without a clear title, and it thereby became designated as heirs’ property. Although heirs’ property exists in many regions of the country, it’s most prevalent in low-income communities. In the South, according to one estimate, more than 50 percent of heirs’-property owners are African-American, many of them the descendants of slaves and sharecroppers.

Without a clear title, heirs’-property owners are limited in what they can do with their land. They can’t get mortgages or do extensive repairs on their homes; as a consequence, some live in trailers. They aren’t eligible to apply for state or federal housing aid (such as funds provided by the Federal Emergency Management Agency) or for nearly any of the programs administered by the Department of Agriculture, including the crucial loans and conservation funding that keep many rural landowners afloat.

African Americans Have Lost Untold Acres of Land Over the Last Century

That is truly sad.

What do we do about it?

.

This is why we ask for reparations.

 

[IM2]

I'm not. But I am telling whites who are racists to stop being racist.

How?

Even when I try to not be racist, you tell me I am being racist. What can I do to stop being racist?

.

Maybe you learn that when an actual black person tells you what the problem is in black communities you accept that as the problem.

Name the black country where you've even remotely solved your 3rd World problems.

Maybe, for once in your life, YOU should listen to the successful and quit blaming them for your problems

I will reject opinions from crooks that colonized nations and continue to steal their wealth.

Now stick to the topic.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

From Im2's perspective, how do we all stop being racist? That's an easy one.


We die.

 

[IM2]

Yea, idk about millions of acres, but many got land.

Google it, Black land ownership post Civil War was nearly 15 million acres by 1910.

It's funny how some whites here take half a story then useit to argue against fact.

In the 45 years following the Civil War, freed
 slaves and their descendants accumulated roughly 15 million acres of land across the United States, most of it in the South. Land ownership meant stability and opportunity for black families, a shot at upward mobility and economic security for future generations. The hard-won property was generally used for farming, the primary occupation of most Southern blacks in the early 20th century. By 1920, there were 925,000 black-owned farms, representing about 14 percent of all farms in the United States.

Over the course of the 20th century, however, that number dropped precipitously. Millions of farmers of all races were pushed off their land in the early part of the century, including around 600,000 black farmers. By 1975, just 45,000 black-owned farms remained. “It was almost as if the earth was opening up and swallowing black farmers,” writes scholar Pete Daniel in his book Dispossession: Discrimination Against African American Farmers in the Age of Civil Rights. Implicit in the decline of black farming was the loss of the land those farmers once tilled. Today, African Americans compose less than 2 percent of the nation’s farmers and 1 percent of its 
rural landowners.

Many factors contributed to the loss of black-owned land during the 20th century, including systemic discrimination in lending by the US Department of Agriculture, the industrialization that lured workers into factories, and the Great Migration. But the lesser-known issue of heirs’ property also played a role, allowing untold thousands of acres to be forcibly bought out from under black rural families—often second-, third-, or fourth-generation landowners whose ancestors were 
enslaved—by real-estate developers and speculators.

By one estimate, 81 percent of these early black landowners didn’t make wills, largely due to a lack of access to legal resources. Their descendants then inherited the land without a clear title, and it thereby became designated as heirs’ property. Although heirs’ property exists in many regions of the country, it’s most prevalent in low-income communities. In the South, according to one estimate, more than 50 percent of heirs’-property owners are African-American, many of them the descendants of slaves and sharecroppers.

Without a clear title, heirs’-property owners are limited in what they can do with their land. They can’t get mortgages or do extensive repairs on their homes; as a consequence, some live in trailers. They aren’t eligible to apply for state or federal housing aid (such as funds provided by the Federal Emergency Management Agency) or for nearly any of the programs administered by the Department of Agriculture, including the crucial loans and conservation funding that keep many rural landowners afloat.

African Americans Have Lost Untold Acres of Land Over the Last Century

That is truly sad.

What do we do about it?

.

This is why we ask for reparations.

Ask in one hand, shit in the other, loser. Why don't you stop whining about how whitey ruined your life and owes you, and just try to stand on your own two feet for a change?

Loser.
Loser.
Loser.

Whites have never stood on their own two feet. STFU.

 

[MarathonMike]

You see how the story shifted? When I pointed out that Blacks actually received "Reparations" in the form of millions of acres of land, it then became a "Yeah but they lost their land because RACISM....". What a surprise.

 

[koshergrl]

Google it, Black land ownership post Civil War was nearly 15 million acres by 1910.

It's funny how some whites here take half a story then useit to argue against fact.

In the 45 years following the Civil War, freed
 slaves and their descendants accumulated roughly 15 million acres of land across the United States, most of it in the South. Land ownership meant stability and opportunity for black families, a shot at upward mobility and economic security for future generations. The hard-won property was generally used for farming, the primary occupation of most Southern blacks in the early 20th century. By 1920, there were 925,000 black-owned farms, representing about 14 percent of all farms in the United States.

Over the course of the 20th century, however, that number dropped precipitously. Millions of farmers of all races were pushed off their land in the early part of the century, including around 600,000 black farmers. By 1975, just 45,000 black-owned farms remained. “It was almost as if the earth was opening up and swallowing black farmers,” writes scholar Pete Daniel in his book Dispossession: Discrimination Against African American Farmers in the Age of Civil Rights. Implicit in the decline of black farming was the loss of the land those farmers once tilled. Today, African Americans compose less than 2 percent of the nation’s farmers and 1 percent of its 
rural landowners.

Many factors contributed to the loss of black-owned land during the 20th century, including systemic discrimination in lending by the US Department of Agriculture, the industrialization that lured workers into factories, and the Great Migration. But the lesser-known issue of heirs’ property also played a role, allowing untold thousands of acres to be forcibly bought out from under black rural families—often second-, third-, or fourth-generation landowners whose ancestors were 
enslaved—by real-estate developers and speculators.

By one estimate, 81 percent of these early black landowners didn’t make wills, largely due to a lack of access to legal resources. Their descendants then inherited the land without a clear title, and it thereby became designated as heirs’ property. Although heirs’ property exists in many regions of the country, it’s most prevalent in low-income communities. In the South, according to one estimate, more than 50 percent of heirs’-property owners are African-American, many of them the descendants of slaves and sharecroppers.

Without a clear title, heirs’-property owners are limited in what they can do with their land. They can’t get mortgages or do extensive repairs on their homes; as a consequence, some live in trailers. They aren’t eligible to apply for state or federal housing aid (such as funds provided by the Federal Emergency Management Agency) or for nearly any of the programs administered by the Department of Agriculture, including the crucial loans and conservation funding that keep many rural landowners afloat.

African Americans Have Lost Untold Acres of Land Over the Last Century

That is truly sad.

What do we do about it?

.

This is why we ask for reparations.

Ask in one hand, shit in the other, loser. Why don't you stop whining about how whitey ruined your life and owes you, and just try to stand on your own two feet for a change?

Loser.
Loser.
Loser.

Whites have never stood on their own two feet. STFU.

Yeah. Cuz blacks are responsible for creating western civilization.

Not.

 

[IM2]

From Im2's perspective, how do we all stop being racist? That's an easy one.


We die.

That's your perspective as the perpetual poor, downtrodden, hated for no reason, white victim

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Is Aversive Racism intentional?

Yes.

How does one stop being an aversive racist?

Aversive racism is racism. Why do white people ask us how to stop being racist?

As for the rest of your questions, "entitlements" were never a problem until "entitlements" were to be shared. Voter fraud does not exist and the largest recipients of welfare are corporations and the very wealthy. So if you reject welfare on that basis...

If it is intentional, then I am not an Aversive Racist.

I don't know why white people ask about how to stop being racist. I can only speak for myself. I ask because I genuinely believe that I do my best to give everyone a fair shake when not required or forced to do so. Am I perfect? No. Do my actions harm others? Not that I can see.

I reject all welfare...ESPECIALLY corporate welfare.

I want every person to have a vote and I will fight for anyone whose vote is being denied....but that fight ends at one vote. If we need to take steps to make sure that one vote and only one vote per voter gets cast, nothing about that objective is based on race.

.

 

[IM2]

You see how the story shifted? When I pointed out that Blacks actually received "Reparations" in the form of millions of acres of land, it then became a "Yeah but they lost their land because RACISM....". What a surprise.

The story didn't shift. The part you left out was shown.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

From Im2's perspective, how do we all stop being racist? That's an easy one.


We die.

I think he's a pasty faced, flap handed white boy in his gramma's basement.

I have those same suspicions about a couple other posters.

they overplay their hand.

 

[IM2]

Is Aversive Racism intentional?

Yes.

How does one stop being an aversive racist?

Aversive racism is racism. Why do white people ask us how to stop being racist?

As for the rest of your questions, "entitlements" were never a problem until "entitlements" were to be shared. Voter fraud does not exist and the largest recipients of welfare are corporations and the very wealthy. So if you reject welfare on that basis...

If it is intentional, then I am not an Aversive Racist.

I don't know why white people ask about how to stop being racist. I can only speak for myself. I ask because I genuinely believe that I do my best to give everyone a fair shake when not required or forced to do so. Am I perfect? No. Do my actions harm others? Not that I can see.

I reject all welfare...ESPECIALLY corporate welfare.

I want every person to have a vote and I will fight for anyone whose vote is being denied....but that fight ends at one vote. If we need to take steps to make sure that one vote and only one vote per voter gets cast, nothing about that objective is based on race.

.

Accidental racism is still racism. But what you said was fair enough.

 

[IM2]

From Im2's perspective, how do we all stop being racist? That's an easy one.


We die.

I think he's a pasty faced, flap handed white boy in his gramma's basement.

I have those same suspicions about a couple other posters.

they overplay their hand.

Now that's just stupid.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

This is why we ask for reparations.

To whom?

From whom?

I didn't do any of the shit that resulted in 81% of black folks losing their land. I didn't benefit from any such losses. I have no inheritance. I am a first generation college graduate from a dirt-poor white family.

Should I be the one to bear the burden of reparations for shit that I didn't do or benefit from?

THAT is the problem.

I would be in favor of granting federal lands to black folks as reparations. There is PLENTY of that and most of it goes unused. Would that help?

.

 

[Rambunctious]

MLKs mother was raped...he was the child that awful rape produced....we can be thankful she didn't get an abortion.....

 

[koshergrl]

This is why we ask for reparations.

To whom?

From whom?

I didn't do any of the shit that resulted in 81% of black folks losing their land. I didn't benefit from any such losses. I have no inheritance. I am a first generation college graduate for a dirt poor white family.

Should I be the one to bear the burden of reparations for shit that I didn't do or benefit from?

THAT is the problem.

I would be in favor of granting federal lands to black folks as reparations. There is PLENTY of that and most of it goes unused. Would that help?

.

Er..no, *federal lands* aren't actually federal lands. They are COUNTY lands that are managed by the feds.If you doubt me, go camp for more than 2 weeks in a spot. The USFS will approach you, tell you you have to leave...and when you tell them to make you, they will say they can't, that only county law enforcement can evict people.

And no, you don't get to just take them and give them to blacks. Obviously you don't live anywhere near those lands that you think are just sitting there not getting any use.

 

[TNHarley]

You see how the story shifted? When I pointed out that Blacks actually received "Reparations" in the form of millions of acres of land, it then became a "Yeah but they lost their land because RACISM....". What a surprise.

The story didn't shift. The part you left out was shown.

No, you said it never happened.
As all of your threads go, either you were ignorant or a liar.
I was ignorant on the numbers but I'm not intellectually dishonest like you are. I can admit it.
So which were you?

 

[IM2]

This is why we ask for reparations.

To whom?

From whom?

I didn't do any of the shit that resulted in 81% of black folks losing their land. I didn't benefit from any such losses. I have no inheritance. I am a first generation college graduate from a dirt-poor white family.

Should I be the one to bear the burden of reparations for shit that I didn't do or benefit from?

THAT is the problem.

I would be in favor of granting federal lands to black folks as reparations. There is PLENTY of that and most of it goes unused. Would that help?

.

You and your family have benefited from racism. All that what I didn't do stuff is weak. You didn't put NA's on reservations but you pay them every year.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Long after the only words the white racists think King ever spoke, he said these words:

"We're Coming To Get Our Check"



We blacks know what King was about. And we will not whitewash it to serve your need to lie to yourselves.

MLK's legacy is secure...he won..they lost..simple as that. He died for his efforts..but if you had showed him our world..in 2019..and asked him if he would die to make it a reality..he would have said "Yes' in a heartbeat! That's why the haters hate. Most of them are old geezers still trying to re-fight the battle of the 60's..with a different ending. Not going to happen. It is results that count--the rest is bs perpetrated by bored old men who see their relevance fading with the spread of their fat asses and the liver spots on their hands.

MLK's Dream is today's reality--they can scream 'Chicago' at the top of their lungs--they can cite stats..and skewed reports--it will not change the fact that Martin Luther King Jr. won!

They lost.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

You and your family have benefited from racism. All that what I didn't do stuff is weak. You didn't put NA's on reservations but you pay them every year.

How would you know that I benefited from racism?

You just made a blanket statement about me without having any facts, based solely on my race.

The BIA is complete bullshit and reparations should stop immediately, but you're right. We who had no part in conquering Native Americans are being held responsible to pay reparations to Native American decedents who were never mistreated. That is fucking horseshit, and black folks are not being treated equally.

The BIA needs to fold. It's only fair.

.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

We should make Native Americans who were never mistreated by the U.S. pay back reparations to black folks.

Fair is fair.



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