Philosophy forum

[Amanda]

my postition is that women are the cornerstone of civilization, and are women only as they are thinking or acting for the benefit of the family. in any other capacity, they are not women.

What a load of sexist horse shit.

You've shown with that comment that you haven't any idea what it's like to be a women in this society or any other.

The differences between how men and women are treated and what they have to put up with are phenomenal. When is the last time you went on a job interview and had the interviewer talk to your boobs? When is the last time women tried to dictate to you your reproductive options? I could go on and on.

I like being a woman, yes, but to think that there are no differences except "thinking or acting for the benefit of the family" is beyond naive.

Epic FAIL... again.

 

[JBeukema]

I like being a woman, yes.

Really? Seems to me like the whole menstruation thing would suck.

 

[Xenophon]

Ha ha, the 'deep thinkers' spend all their time attacking an 18 year old gal.

You two are precious, give them the forum Gunny, I would love to see more of this nonsense on parade!

glad you are on board.

I'm always down for mocking a pompous ass like you.

 

[strollingbones]

I'm wondering who among us really knows enough philosophy to post on such a forum?

I mean real philosophy, now, not OUR philosophies, but the real stuff.

I know damned well I'm not conversant about the real debates that exist in that field.

Are any of us really qualified to pontificate like a philosopher here?

Probably not to the level to discuss with philosophers, but we could discuss philosophers. I took Western Civ. Many of my other classes had reference to the thinkers of past times. It isn't that hard to read someones work and agree or disagree, we do it all the time. Here, Ill start, there's plenty to disagree with View attachment 7915

oiy.

let me begin by saying that mine and jamies marriage is not one of indentured servitude. we are partners, lovers, friends, and companions. she is my goddess, and i her god. there is a lack of the typical socially approved division of labor, and sometimes she and i clash over who will do what, but we are partners. when our infant was born, she would take care of the first nocturnal feeding, and i the second, for example. but then jamie is atypical, if there is such a thing as a typical female. but then, she and i are both reformed pagans. lol!

too often feminism actually denigrates the woman, stripping her of part of who she is, and i was gratified to see in this piece that the author allowed for a wide range of potentials for describing women, even, i would assume, as a traditional wife if so inclined.

intellectual adeptness doesn't always indicate a corresponding emotional adeptness, and then nietzsche had his own demons to wrestle with. he was expected to follow in his fathers footsteps into the ministry. it is entirely likely that his attitude towards women was in some measure supporting the typical attitude about women expressed by many christians even today, to atone for his inability or unwillingness to fill those familial boots. as i recall, his father died when fred was young ( and on second glance that was also mentioned in the piece) , and so he would have to be raised by his mother, and so his attitude (this sounds so freudian) could be a backlash against that. regardless, as was mentioned, he was a product of his time.

i appreciate this "It is a fact that living things tend to be neglected by ardent pursuit of any artistic or epic endeavor, and that tending to those needful beings lends one to neglect scholarly work," having said much the same about holy men, seers, shamans etc having to remove themselves from others so they can come in contact/experience what others will not, cannot or dont want to. to excel beyond the "normal" requires sacrifice, no matter what the endeavor.

my postition is that women are the cornerstone of civilization, and are women only as they are thinking or acting for the benefit of the family. in any other capacity, they are not women. i say this as i have looked for characteristics that only are shared among women, and have found only their ability to give life. otherwise, i dont think there can be said anything about womens thinking process or behavior that cannot also be said of men.

i am ready to pontificate: what a crock of shit

that deep enough for ya?

 

[vincubus]

Ha ha, the 'deep thinkers' spend all their time attacking an 18 year old gal.

You two are precious, give them the forum Gunny, I would love to see more of this nonsense on parade!

glad you are on board.

I'm always down for mocking a pompous ass like you.

thanks.

 

[del]

glad you are on board.

I'm always down for mocking a pompous ass like you.

thanks.

the pleasure is all ours

 

[strollingbones]

just toss it out there.....if its what people want to discuss they will...regardless of forum.....and once gunny mades his decision its made.....simple as that....

 

[vincubus]

I'm always down for mocking a pompous ass like you.

thanks.

the pleasure is all ours

smile. for some, it is the very little things in life that bring pleasure. like a child cooing over a shiny but all but worthless penny.

 

[del]

thanks.

the pleasure is all ours

smile. for some, it is the very little things in life that bring pleasure. like a child cooing over a shiny but all but worthless penny.

don't be silly. you're completely worthless and not all that shiny.

carry on, vinny

 

[strollingbones]

tis true...cause i like shiney things

 

[vincubus]

just toss it out there.....if its what people want to discuss they will...regardless of forum.....and once gunny mades his decision its made.....simple as that....

sure, its gunnys forum, not a representative form of government. respecting others property has always seemed the way to go.

 

[vincubus]

the pleasure is all ours

smile. for some, it is the very little things in life that bring pleasure. like a child cooing over a shiny but all but worthless penny.

don't be silly. you're completely worthless and not all that shiny.

carry on, vinny

i appreciate your high compliments. from someone i respect, i would feel insulted. i dont feel insulted. thanks!

now, i have better things to do. engaging in this ...banter with you has been....boring.

 

[del]

smile. for some, it is the very little things in life that bring pleasure. like a child cooing over a shiny but all but worthless penny.

don't be silly. you're completely worthless and not all that shiny.

carry on, vinny

i appreciate your high compliments. from someone i respect, i would feel insulted. i dont feel insulted. thanks!

any time, vinny, any time.

 

[strollingbones]

it is not gunny's forum or board but he is the administartor for the board and makes all decision concerning the board...and get this....they are unquestionable in publc....once he has made his decision that is it...seems heavy handed but it is the only way to run a board.

as i said...if you have a topic...toss it out there....it will be discussed or not discussed or not discussed depending on the mood and who is posting at the time.

 

[vincubus]

don't be silly. you're completely worthless and not all that shiny.

carry on, vinny

i appreciate your high compliments. from someone i respect, i would feel insulted. i dont feel insulted. thanks!

any time, vinny, any time.

then why stop?

amuse yourself. go ahead. i will be otherwise occupied, but if this type of posting makes you happy, enjoy! LOL!!!

 

[strollingbones]

damn del you ran him off with conversation....does he not realize that is a two way street...bad del...bad del...he was pontificating....we got a pontificator already....

 

[strollingbones]

ooooooo his ego cant resist the urge to get the last word

 

[del]

ooooooo his ego cant resist the urge to get the last word

he's busy doing other things.

i am, of course, crushed.

 

[vincubus]

it is not gunny's forum or board but he is the administartor for the board and makes all decision concerning the board...and get this....they are unquestionable in publc....once he has made his decision that is it...seems heavy handed but it is the only way to run a board.

as i said...if you have a topic...toss it out there....it will be discussed or not discussed or not discussed depending on the mood and who is posting at the time.

i know. i run a board and have been senior op for two others. the boards are for posting content, not bickering over admin or mod decisions. it must be kept that way. drama is for soap operas. for some bizarre reason, ppl like soap operas. i suppose for some it is what passes as thinking. to each their own.

 

[strollingbones]

as much as people like having the last word