Over 90% of American voters are incapable of critical thinking.

Fuck you.

Give us some real examples of where your preferred form of government has every been successful in the history of mankind.


Hong Kong, a Libertarian state (doesn't operate under Chinas gov't) has the highest per capita income.

"Hong Kong has numerous high international rankings in various aspects. For instance, its economic freedom, financial and economic competitiveness, quality of life, corruption perception, Human Development Index, etc., are all ranked highly."
Hong Kong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Fuck you.

Give us some real examples of where your preferred form of government has every been successful in the history of mankind.


Hong Kong, a Libertarian state (doesn't operate under Chinas gov't) has the highest per capita income.

"Hong Kong has numerous high international rankings in various aspects. For instance, its economic freedom, financial and economic competitiveness, quality of life, corruption perception, Human Development Index, etc., are all ranked highly."
Hong Kong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Hong Kong has a single payer gubmint run healthcare system.

Did you not know that?

But if you think that it is ok for a State to do its own thing, you are actually more of a Federalist like me and Romney.


LOL
 
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False. His statement was a strawman. Neither me nor Liberty have engaged in such fallacious reasoning.

And here you show that you're no better than what you're decrying. Yes, that's exactly what you're advocating. That is exactly the essence of what you both are saying. Instead of trying to deny it, acknowledge it for what it is. Admit you've made a mistake, and adjust your approach. Anything short makes you a hack.

False. If someone supports a candidate who OPENLY supports fascist policies like NDAA, Patriot Act, Cybersecurity Act, spy drones invading Americans and drones bombing civilians in the Middle East, and they vote against Gary Johnson who opposes all that, then that person either is willfully ignorant or willfully fascist.

Wow, that was so stupid I almost thought you were Willowtree.

Oh look, a moderate who likes tyranny from the left and the right.

No.

If I was party-centric, then how is it that I simultaneously support Ron Paul, Noam Chomsky, and Ralph Nader? None of these listed are from the Libertarian Party. In fact, Gary Johnson is the first person from the Libertarian Party that I have ever supported!

And you support him with the same irrational blind devotion as any other partisan hack.
 
I consider myself a student of American history. I love the story of the revolution, the hope and courage the founding men and women had and their prayer of a free society. And then...I look at us today, and all I can feel is pity. Not pity for you, but pity for the men and women whose blood, sweat, tears, and even bodies are lost to the flow of history; those that worked to make you free, and me free, and possibly all other peoples free. And then I look at today. I look at over 90% of voters who choose to vote for their own slavery. These people who vote to have an unjust ruling class subjugate the fruits of their labor at gun point. These people who vote to have an unjust ruling class dictate what they do with their own bodies...I could go on. Where is the desire to be free? Why have 90% of Americans instead chosen to be babied by a ruling class who does not give one shit about them, and only about themselves and staying in power? Why is it so hard to understand, that if you vote for a republican or a democrat you are voting to hurt yourself, your family, and those you love? Why...pray tell, are you so fucking stupid?
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However, you proceed from the conclusion that the elections are fair and free, correct? You thus sally forth on the assumption that the process hasn't been monopolized by big business interests, and that there hasn't been a collusion between the corporatocracy, and the two parties to control the outcome? After carefully following the corruption in the Republican primaries, I don't know how one can miss this. I am not so childish and naive in my outlook. As outsiders, ours is to stay outside and call attention to the corruption, to stay above the fray, and be the moral fiber of America. When the corpus becomes so decayed, one can do no more, but to ring warning bells, and then step aside and retire. To vote legitimizes the authority of those who will later take office. We can not ethically vote, for if we do, then the crimes we know will be committed, will be committed in our name. You do know that no third party candidate can ever take office and the process is corrupt, yes?

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I found this following post a great example of what the OP was talking about. . . .
False. His statement was a strawman. Neither me nor Liberty have engaged in such fallacious reasoning.

And here you show that you're no better than what you're decrying. Yes, that's exactly what you're advocating. That is exactly the essence of what you both are saying. Instead of trying to deny it, acknowledge it for what it is. Admit you've made a mistake, and adjust your approach. Anything short makes you a hack.

False. If someone supports a candidate who OPENLY supports fascist policies like NDAA, Patriot Act, Cybersecurity Act, spy drones invading Americans and drones bombing civilians in the Middle East, and they vote against Gary Johnson who opposes all that, then that person either is willfully ignorant or willfully fascist.

Wow, that was so stupid I almost thought you were Willowtree.

Oh look, a moderate who likes tyranny from the left and the right.

No.

If I was party-centric, then how is it that I simultaneously support Ron Paul, Noam Chomsky, and Ralph Nader? None of these listed are from the Libertarian Party. In fact, Gary Johnson is the first person from the Libertarian Party that I have ever supported!

And you support him with the same irrational blind devotion as any other partisan hack.


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As mind numbingly hopeless as it seems, keep up the good fight Liberty. Do bear in mind though, the Libertarian party, is still a party to the government. Change needs to start somewhere though. Better there than no where I suppose. :wink_2:
 
I consider myself a student of American history. I love the story of the revolution, the hope and courage the founding men and women had and their prayer of a free society. And then...I look at us today, and all I can feel is pity. Not pity for you, but pity for the men and women whose blood, sweat, tears, and even bodies are lost to the flow of history; those that worked to make you free, and me free, and possibly all other peoples free. And then I look at today. I look at over 90% of voters who choose to vote for their own slavery. These people who vote to have an unjust ruling class subjugate the fruits of their labor at gun point. These people who vote to have an unjust ruling class dictate what they do with their own bodies...I could go on. Where is the desire to be free? Why have 90% of Americans instead chosen to be babied by a ruling class who does not give one shit about them, and only about themselves and staying in power? Why is it so hard to understand, that if you vote for a republican or a democrat you are voting to hurt yourself, your family, and those you love? Why...pray tell, are you so fucking stupid?

At gun point? Are you fucking kidding me? What fucking country do you live in? America isn't like that.


I always love how the anti-Obama threads go. "Most Americans know what's best for them, so they're smart enough to not vote for Obama"... etc, etc. And then when the election passes, it's going to be a constant stream of "Americans are fucking stupid!"
 
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After reading this garbage, I've come to a conclusion [actually came to it a long time ago]; those with liberal/leftist leaning tend to believe in elitism. Only they are smart enough to run things - everyone else is intellectually limited and should be denied the right to make important decisions.

The American people are getting tired of this elitism and November 6 will prove it when Obuma becomes a one-term president.
 
Elitism is the 1% and the corporatists.

Money runs the USA.

We have the best government that money can buy.
 
Considering the fact that Obama can't answer a question with out meandering..maybe even forgetting what was asked?
I don't see how anyone would see him as the winner of last nights debate.

Obama has ADD.

Here is a great example of one of those people who can't critically think, and whose only dictating force for voting for Romney is that he doesn't like Obama. A prime example of the kind of stupidity bringing this country to its knees.

Why don't you and your Libertarian Pals get off your fucking High Horses.

I have gone the 3rd party route, I have seen my Vote not only wasted, but actually help the guy I like the least win the election.

Sorry, Now I fight to keep the worst kind of people from winning, because I know we don't have a chance in hell of getting the Kind of People I really want to in there, to win.
 
I consider myself a student of American history. I love the story of the revolution, the hope and courage the founding men and women had and their prayer of a free society. And then...I look at us today, and all I can feel is pity. Not pity for you, but pity for the men and women whose blood, sweat, tears, and even bodies are lost to the flow of history; those that worked to make you free, and me free, and possibly all other peoples free. And then I look at today. I look at over 90% of voters who choose to vote for their own slavery. These people who vote to have an unjust ruling class subjugate the fruits of their labor at gun point. These people who vote to have an unjust ruling class dictate what they do with their own bodies...I could go on. Where is the desire to be free? Why have 90% of Americans instead chosen to be babied by a ruling class who does not give one shit about them, and only about themselves and staying in power? Why is it so hard to understand, that if you vote for a republican or a democrat you are voting to hurt yourself, your family, and those you love? Why...pray tell, are you so fucking stupid?

Over 90% of American voters are incapable of critical thinking.

Oh...I'm VERY CRITICAL. I will be voting for the guy who has the ONLY chance of beating that buffoon currently pretending to be president...president, with a small p.

Not for some nobody, who has no chance in hell of beating that retard, Obama, some nobody like..... Gary Johnson.
 
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Considering the fact that Obama can't answer a question with out meandering..maybe even forgetting what was asked?
I don't see how anyone would see him as the winner of last nights debate.

Obama has ADD.

Here is a great example of one of those people who can't critically think, and whose only dictating force for voting for Romney is that he doesn't like Obama. A prime example of the kind of stupidity bringing this country to its knees.

Why don't you and your Libertarian Pals get off your fucking High Horses.

I have gone the 3rd party route, I have seen my Vote not only wasted, but actually help the guy I like the least win the election.

Sorry, Now I fight to keep the worst kind of people from winning, because I know we don't have a chance in hell of getting the Kind of People I really want to in there, to win.

Not with that attitude...if you can live with yourself for voting for those who would destroy this country, by all means have at it. I have a thing called integrity though and I wouldn't be able to forgive myself when I know both men are bought and paid for by goldman sachs and literally agree on every single issue.
 
I consider myself a student of American history. I love the story of the revolution, the hope and courage the founding men and women had and their prayer of a free society. And then...I look at us today, and all I can feel is pity. Not pity for you, but pity for the men and women whose blood, sweat, tears, and even bodies are lost to the flow of history; those that worked to make you free, and me free, and possibly all other peoples free. And then I look at today. I look at over 90% of voters who choose to vote for their own slavery. These people who vote to have an unjust ruling class subjugate the fruits of their labor at gun point. These people who vote to have an unjust ruling class dictate what they do with their own bodies...I could go on. Where is the desire to be free? Why have 90% of Americans instead chosen to be babied by a ruling class who does not give one shit about them, and only about themselves and staying in power? Why is it so hard to understand, that if you vote for a republican or a democrat you are voting to hurt yourself, your family, and those you love? Why...pray tell, are you so fucking stupid?

Over 90% of American voters are incapable of critical thinking.

Oh...I'm VERY CRITICAL. I will be voting for the guy who has the ONLY chance of beating that buffoon currently pretending to be president...president, with a small p.

Not for some nobody, who has no chance in hell of beating that retard, Obama, some nobody like..... Gary Johnson.

So...can you really name an issue that Romney/Obama don't agree on?
 
Almost all of the far right here and a good portion of the far left have no critical thinking skills.

It's worse than that. Most people don't think at all, let alone critically. You can watch it all over this board as a microcosm of the entire country. Except even here, at least people pay attention, even if they fail miserably to stay objective and keep facts/truth more favorable than a party affiliation.

People are fucking retarded. That's the nice way of putting it.
 
I consider myself a student of American history. I love the story of the revolution, the hope and courage the founding men and women had and their prayer of a free society. And then...I look at us today, and all I can feel is pity. Not pity for you, but pity for the men and women whose blood, sweat, tears, and even bodies are lost to the flow of history; those that worked to make you free, and me free, and possibly all other peoples free. And then I look at today. I look at over 90% of voters who choose to vote for their own slavery. These people who vote to have an unjust ruling class subjugate the fruits of their labor at gun point. These people who vote to have an unjust ruling class dictate what they do with their own bodies...I could go on. Where is the desire to be free? Why have 90% of Americans instead chosen to be babied by a ruling class who does not give one shit about them, and only about themselves and staying in power? Why is it so hard to understand, that if you vote for a republican or a democrat you are voting to hurt yourself, your family, and those you love? Why...pray tell, are you so fucking stupid?

Over 90% of American voters are incapable of critical thinking.

Oh...I'm VERY CRITICAL. I will be voting for the guy who has the ONLY chance of beating that buffoon currently pretending to be president...president, with a small p.

Not for some nobody, who has no chance in hell of beating that retard, Obama, some nobody like..... Gary Johnson.

So...can you really name an issue that Romney/Obama don't agree on?

This forum isn't big enough to list 'em all, dumbass. If you can't see that then go waste your freaking vote.
 
I consider myself a student of American history. I love the story of the revolution, the hope and courage the founding men and women had and their prayer of a free society. And then...I look at us today, and all I can feel is pity. Not pity for you, but pity for the men and women whose blood, sweat, tears, and even bodies are lost to the flow of history; those that worked to make you free, and me free, and possibly all other peoples free. And then I look at today. I look at over 90% of voters who choose to vote for their own slavery. These people who vote to have an unjust ruling class subjugate the fruits of their labor at gun point. These people who vote to have an unjust ruling class dictate what they do with their own bodies...I could go on. Where is the desire to be free? Why have 90% of Americans instead chosen to be babied by a ruling class who does not give one shit about them, and only about themselves and staying in power? Why is it so hard to understand, that if you vote for a republican or a democrat you are voting to hurt yourself, your family, and those you love? Why...pray tell, are you so fucking stupid?

Over 90% of American voters are incapable of critical thinking.

Oh...I'm VERY CRITICAL. I will be voting for the guy who has the ONLY chance of beating that buffoon currently pretending to be president...president, with a small p.

Not for some nobody, who has no chance in hell of beating that retard, Obama, some nobody like..... Gary Johnson.

So...can you really name an issue that Romney/Obama don't agree on?

Here I'll sum it up for you in just a couple or three words.

CAPITALISM VERSUS COMMUNISM.
 
Oh...I'm VERY CRITICAL. I will be voting for the guy who has the ONLY chance of beating that buffoon currently pretending to be president...president, with a small p.

Not for some nobody, who has no chance in hell of beating that retard, Obama, some nobody like..... Gary Johnson.

So...can you really name an issue that Romney/Obama don't agree on?

Here I'll sum it up for you in just a couple or three words.

CAPITALISM VERSUS COMMUNISM.

As if. Romney is the poster boy for corporatism, while Obama is a crony socialist. Neither are capitalist proponents. Corporatism is a simply a better deal for the average person over crony socialism. Neither one are optimal for the country.
 

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