Over 30 New Seattle Restaurants Open since $15 Minimum Wage!

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Renee Erickson Is Closing Boat Street Cafe. Her very first restaurant says adieu on May 30. By Allecia Vermillion; Published 02/24/2015. Little.uncle gzpazv.

Okay, so you've got one. Though it predates the new minimum wage law. But whatever....

because businesses had to react only after the exact date it was passed.................but whatever

So......like I said. You've produced evidence of one and only one restaurant closing, and by your own admission it cannot even be attributed to the minimum wage increase, because naturally that could only apply to closures after the law took effect.

 

[KissMy]

And getting its arse kicked, Mickey Dees wants to CUT expenses as much as possible while it regroups. Rather than start paying its employees $15 an hour they will let those personnel go and install kiosks that do NOT require $15 an hour, health care, etc...

McDonalds raised prices 65% while holding wages low & increasing technology. Prices only fall when workers are paid enough to get off the government dole. Republicans plan to have government support workers instead of employers is a total inflationary failure.

It's not a Republican plan. It's going to be up to the business and the people who owns them plan. if they want to be FORCED to pay people more who might not be worth your Forced higher min.wage. And your Democrat plan hits the people in one way or another. If they don't cut out jobs then they'll pass on the higher mim. wage in the prices of their goods they sell. so it's not just Republicans who can find your Democrat plan sucks for consumers and for people who needs a job and there will be less of those, thanks to you Democrats. and if think raising the mim. wage is going to get people off welfare. wishful thinking I'd say

You Lie! That is the Republican Plan. SNAP benefits skyrocketed under Bush #1 & #2. They declined under Clinton & Obama.

 

[Dana7360]

Historically restaurants have proven to be poor start ups. Let's see how many are in business six months from now

Yup and lets see how many go with the IPad to order your meal. No waitress.

Hope it works out for em but I have my doubts.

When did iPads sprout arms and legs to bring the food and drinks to the table for the customers?

You really don't think things through do you?

 

[Claudette]

Ever hear of pick it up yourself??

Guess you didn't think things through did you??

Restaurants are going to be changing to accommodate that $15 and hour they have to pay.

You can bet they will automate and customers will have to fend for themselves.

If they don't want to they can always look for another restaurant. Oh wait. All restaurants will be doing the same. Never mind. Welcome to the $15 and hour pay hike in the world of restaurants.

 

[easyt65]

You Lie! That is the Republican Plan. SNAP benefits skyrocketed under Bush #1 & #2. They declined under Clinton & Obama.

SNAP... LOL! Democrats believed the words 'food Stamps' were too negative, so they came up with the idea of the term 'SNAP' (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program), which they believed was jazzier, more up-beat - no negative connotations!

And Oh by the way, I will refrain from using your words 'YOU LIE' and just say 'YOU ARE MIS-INFORMED': Factcheck.org says Food Stamp levels continue to run at RECORD levels under Obama -- "Americans receiving food stamps remains 45 percent HIGHER than when the president first took office"

(also according to factcheck: Health care spending has increased 15.8 percent under Obama, which is faster than inflation - SO MUCH FOR 'IT WON'T COST A DIME, WILL PAY FOR ITSELF, AND WILL REDUCE THE COST OF HEALTH CARE'... and The federal debt owed to the public has nearly doubled since Obama was sworn in, increasing by 95 percent...)

 

[Dana7360]

Let them raise it as much as they want, who cares. If people want to patronize businesses that pay sky high minimum wage, more power to them. And if people want to patronize businesses that are right outside the Seattle city limits, and that pay less more power to them too. If Seattle can make a workers paradise work, let them do it, we all have the choice of shopping elsewhere if we don't want to support it.
If it becomes a federal law, and businesses everywhere are forced to pay these kind of minimums, then I've got a huge problem with it.
As long as I can choose to go elsewhere, then let these liberal shitholes play god, I don't give a fuck.

Actually you're wrong.

The high minimum wage in Seattle forces business in neighboring cities to raise their wages to compete with Seattle.

If a worker can just walk across the city line and be paid much higher than staying with their own city, that worker is going to do it.

Sure a business can open across the city line and pay lower wages but they won't be able to find workers to run that business if they pay wages below what's being paid across the street.

When the minimum wage was 9 dollars and some change throughout the state last summer, my daughter got a job at Olive Garden here in my county. The minimum wage was that 9 dollar an our everywhere in the state. However, Olive Garden started my daughter out at over 10 an hour.

High wages will force other businesses to raise their wages to be able to have people to work in the business.

Just to give full disclosure, I live in Wa. In a suburb of Seattle.

lol
so you're saying the minimum wage hike IS causing restaurants to close; but outside of Seattle proper?

Wow you lie without even bothering to care that you're making a fool of yourself.

Leave it to a right winger to lie and twist what I said to mean something completely different.

I was replying to the person who said that a business can open across the city line and pay lower wages.

I was clearly saying that businesses outside Seattle raised their wages to compete with Seattle. They know that they won't be able to get workers if they pay lower than the business across the street. So they raise the wages to be able to have people to work in the business.

I never said any business was closing.

Are you trying to change the subject from what I posted because what I posted was the truth? Or are you just that stupid to believe that you can lie like that without being called on it?

Either way you're just too stupid and dishonest to waste my time with.

 

[KissMy]

You Lie! That is the Republican Plan. SNAP benefits skyrocketed under Bush #1 & #2. They declined under Clinton & Obama.

SNAP... LOL! Democrats believed the words 'food Stamps' were too negative, so they came up with the idea of the term 'SNAP' (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program), which they believed was jazzier, more up-beat - no negative connotations!

And Oh by the way, I will refrain from using your words 'YOU LIE' and just say 'YOU ARE MIS-INFORMED': Factcheck.org says Food Stamp levels continue to run at RECORD levels under Obama -- "Americans receiving food stamps remains 45 percent HIGHER than when the president first took office"

(also according to factcheck: Health care spending has increased 15.8 percent under Obama, which is faster than inflation - SO MUCH FOR 'IT WON'T COST A DIME, WILL PAY FOR ITSELF, AND WILL REDUCE THE COST OF HEALTH CARE'... and The federal debt owed to the public has nearly doubled since Obama was sworn in, increasing by 95 percent...)

You Lie! You also deleted the Facts in the chart I posted because you can't handle the truth. That is the Republican Plan. SNAP benefits skyrocketed under Bush #1 & #2. They declined under Clinton & Obama.

EMTALA signed by Reagan caused healthcare spending to skyrocket. Obamacare has reduced healthcare spending below GDP & Wage gains. As always the facts prove You Lie!!!

Republicans = Inflation & Job Loss!!!

Bush Exploded Deficit! Clinton & Obama Cut Deficit!

 

[Dana7360]

Ever hear of pick it up yourself??

Guess you didn't think things through did you??

Restaurants are going to be changing to accommodate that $15 and hour they have to pay.

You can bet they will automate and customers will have to fend for themselves.

If they don't want to they can always look for another restaurant. Oh wait. All restaurants will be doing the same. Never mind. Welcome to the $15 and hour pay hike in the world of restaurants.[/QUOT



Restaurants like that already exist. They are low end restaurants and don't get as much business because most, not all, people don't like waiting in a very long line to order and pick up their food. It's mostly fast food such as sandwich shops that do that. No restaurant is going to make people stand around for as long as it takes to cook a full course meal.

Restaurants aren't going to all of a sudden fire their wait staff and spend the money to remodel the restaurant to be able to have the type of service you're talking about. They would have to secure the financing and the restaurant would be closed because of the remodel which would mean lost revenues.

They will lose their customer base because of it and it won't be long until they go out of business.

Last, wait staff aren't included in that wage increase because the wait staff makes much more an hour in tips than 15 dollars an hour. It's the kitchen staff and other staff who don't get tips that will see their wages increase to 15 dollars an hour. So getting rid of the staff whose wages are lower than the 15 dollars an hour isn't going to do anything to offset the increase of the staff who are getting that increase in wages.

Unless you're now saying an iPad can cook food or clean dishes or take customers to their seats or manage the restaurant.

You still aren't thinking things through are you?

 

[charwin95]

Our Minimum Wage is pitiful. We should be ashamed of how we treat our fellow Americans. Canada does just fine with an $11 Minimum Wage. It hasn't collapsed. Surely the wealthiest and most prosperous nation on earth can do better. Can't it?

Minimum Wage was NEVER designed or intended to be enough money to support a FAMILY! It was intended to be a 'transitional' job, for kids during the summer, kids working their way through college, etc.

Americans have been brainwashed into thinking minimum wage jobs are supposed to provide enough income to support a FAMILY and meant to be a distraction from the fact that 'all' of our FULL TIME jobs that are meant to provide enough income to support a family have either gone overseas or are up for competition between out-of-work Americans and some illegals coming in.

The problem is NOT that the minimum wage is not high enough. The problem is that there aren't enough full time jobs that provide wages capable of supporting families. Throw in disastrous legislation like the ACA whose mandate caused businesses to change a lot of full-time positions to part-time positions to allow them to avoid the ACA mandate, and you have a problem! Several reports say full-time positions are at a nearly all-time low in this country while welfare, Food Stamps, etc are near all time highs!

Again, the fact that there aren't enough full-time JOBS is the problem not the fact that we aren't paying kids who can't even get the orders right and make sure my food is in the bag enough money!

Why are you paralleling ACA with h Minimum Wage? These are separate entities.

 

[paulitician]

Guess what folks? You treat a worker like shit, you get a shitty worker. Remember that next time you feel you received bad service. There's a price to pay for being cheap and greedy.

 

[depotoo]

Let's look at this from reality-
SNAP/Food Stamp Historic Trends: 1998-2010Overall Trends

Caseloads dropped through 1998 and 1999 as the economy improved and many states failed to get food stamps to low-income families who had left cash welfare for low-paid work. Caseloads then stabilized and began rising in 2000. Increases in participation since then likely have been driven by improved access to the program in states, including most recently for legal immigrants, by the weakened economy for low-income families, and (in September, October, and November 2005) by hurricanes.


Trends: 1998-2001

From December 1997 to December 2000, Food Stamps caseloads fell by 3.5 million persons. Some reduction in poverty and improvement in the overall unemployment rate contributed to these Food Stamp Program caseload declines, but other factors, including negative program changes by Congress, interactions with the cash public assistance system that make food stamp access harder for eligible families, and lack of information about the program among potentially eligible people, explained much of the drop.

Because of the 1996 welfare law, by August 22, 1997 most legal immigrants lost eligibility for federal Food Stamps benefits. Some immigrants were made newly eligible November 1, 1998, but a majority remained barred from the program. (Important additional improvements are occurring in 2003.) The period after March 1997 was also marked by implementation of cuts in Food Stamp Program eligibility for many childless, jobless adults.

Trends: 2001-2007

Unemployment and underemployment; improved processes in some states at application; better rules in many states, such as no longer treating vehicles as a resource barring eligibility; and other increased efforts by states and non-profit groups to connect eligible persons with benefits contributed to the increase in Food Stamp Program participation in this decade.

Pursuant to the 2002 Farm Bill, many legal immigrants became newly eligible for benefits in 2003 (as of April 2003, those residing in the US at least five years; as of October 2003, those under 18 regardless of date of entry).

Caseload trends in late 2005 were affected by the temporary disaster Food Stamp Program relief in the wake of several hurricanes, relief that by December was on the wane.

A positive feature of the SNAP/Food Stamp Program is its ability to meet increased need, whether due to economic changes or disasters. For information about the Disaster Food Stamp Program, download FRAC’sGuide to the Disaster Food Stamp Program; click here for a press release on the guide.

Three states with large numbers of those affected by the hurricanes– Florida, Louisiana, and Texas–accounted for nearly 3.4 million of the 3.8 million person increase between August and November 2005. Also ranking in the ten states with the largest percentage increases between August and November 2005 were three other states disproportionately impacted by hurricanes— Mississippi (hit by Katrina), Georgia and Arkansas (both reportedly serving large numbers of hurricane evacuees).

Not reflected in the caseload figures was additional nutrition assistance provided to many regular food stamp households affected by the hurricanes. Many households already enrolled in the program received replacement allotments to help cope with their food losses. Additional nutrition assistance also was provided to hurricane victims through the school meals programs, Child and Adult Care Food Program, and WIC Program.

You Lie! That is the Republican Plan. SNAP benefits skyrocketed under Bush #1 & #2. They declined under Clinton & Obama.

SNAP... LOL! Democrats believed the words 'food Stamps' were too negative, so they came up with the idea of the term 'SNAP' (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program), which they believed was jazzier, more up-beat - no negative connotations!

And Oh by the way, I will refrain from using your words 'YOU LIE' and just say 'YOU ARE MIS-INFORMED': Factcheck.org says Food Stamp levels continue to run at RECORD levels under Obama -- "Americans receiving food stamps remains 45 percent HIGHER than when the president first took office"

(also according to factcheck: Health care spending has increased 15.8 percent under Obama, which is faster than inflation - SO MUCH FOR 'IT WON'T COST A DIME, WILL PAY FOR ITSELF, AND WILL REDUCE THE COST OF HEALTH CARE'... and The federal debt owed to the public has nearly doubled since Obama was sworn in, increasing by 95 percent...)

You Lie! You also deleted the Facts in the chart I posted because you can't handle the truth. That is the Republican Plan. SNAP benefits skyrocketed under Bush #1 & #2. They declined under Clinton & Obama.

EMTALA signed by Reagan caused healthcare spending to skyrocket. Obamacare has reduced healthcare spending below GDP & Wage gains. As always the facts prove You Lie!!!

Republicans = Inflation & Job Loss!!!

Bush Exploded Deficit! Clinton & Obama Cut Deficit!

 

[whitehall]

Does it make any sense that the restaurants would open because of the minimum wage increase? Unlike the government, the private sector lives off the profit margin and their profit margin would obviously decrease when the minimum wage increased. It's possible that the restaurants were scheduled to open before the minimum wage increase went through so they have to grit their teeth. You can count on small mom and pop businesses that survive on a small profit margin to fold but the socialist left doesn't care about that.

 

[Iceweasel]

The bottom line is that liberals think they can legislate prosperity. There's no evidence for it, just the opposite, smaller government with less restrictions means better jobs AND wages since employers have to compete for good workers.

 

[charwin95]

Ever hear of pick it up yourself??

Guess you didn't think things through did you??

Restaurants are going to be changing to accommodate that $15 and hour they have to pay.

You can bet they will automate and customers will have to fend for themselves.

If they don't want to they can always look for another restaurant. Oh wait. All restaurants will be doing the same. Never mind. Welcome to the $15 and hour pay hike in the world of restaurants.

Either you or I like it or not. Either MW is $3. or $8. We are going to automation technology is the direction we are going.
This has nothing to do with MW. Period. Try to put that in your memory.

 

[charwin95]

HEY LOOK WHAT I FOUND!!
and it's from the SAME source you provided Einstein!!

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Renee Erickson Is Closing Boat Street Cafe. Her very first restaurant says adieu on May 30. By Allecia Vermillion; Published 02/24/2015. Little.uncle gzpazv.

I do not question the facts of your link. But I question the meaning and the dates of your link.
NONE of these proved that restaurants closed because of MW hike. Meaning it's worthless.

 

[Rozman]

So if the minimum wage was increased to $20 an hour then 50 new restaurants would open....

 

[TooTall]

More than 30 New Seattle Restaurants Open Since $15 Minimum Wage Became Law!

In-spite of relentless Republican Lies claiming the opposite.

You're an idiot. No Republican said that and it says nothing. Many restaurants can afford it because their customers can afford it. The point was that not all will be able to afford the increase. Why is that so hard?

It's a simple math. All they have to do is increase their prices. In general all prices will go up so if I'm a customer why bother to go somewhere else. The notion of restaurants closing due to $15. min wage is irrelevant.

I don't have a problem with the $15 an hour waiter or waitress, but it will certainly lower my normal tip of 20% down to 10%. With the increase in prices it will still be a good tip.

 

[Kondor3]

More than 30 New Seattle Restaurants Open Since $15 Minimum Wage Became Law!

In-spite of relentless Republican Lies claiming the opposite.

So, what's the average No. of restaurant openings during an identical timeframe, so that we have a baseline to compare with?

 

[Kondor3]

So typical of liberals declaring success before actually achieving success, we'll see how many of these new businesses actually survive.

Well, first it was........Seattle restaurants are closing since the minimum wage went up

now that they are not, it's.....We hope they fail

Let's do this the right way...

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A = ( Average No. of openings during an identical time window )

B = ( Average No. of closings during an identical time window )

C = A - B ( Net Gain or Loss, historical average, as baseline )

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D = ( Exact No. of openings during the time window in question )

E = ( Exact No. of closings during the time window in question )

F = D - E (Net Gain or Loss, real-time)

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Compare C vs. F

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Judge the success or failure of the $15 minimum wage there, based upon facts, in context.

And, keep in mind, that those numbers are only a particular frozen moment in time, and far too soon after the wage-change, to be statistically reliable.

Raw numbers like those served-up in the OP are absolute meaningless.

But that doesn't prevent Lefties from braying them like donkeys at the top of their lungs, hoping that people who understand the grade-school math involved, won't say anything.

 

[HenryBHough]

When wages go up prices go up. But for those whose wages didn't go up the result is what you call "inflation". One of the things Democrats build best.