Our CREATED solar system ---- what you are not being told

[rightwinger]

Evolution is a FACT
God is a THEORY

Micro shifting is fact. Macro change is a fairy tail. GOD is real to those that call on HIS name.

Evolution is a FACT

There are no complex lifeforms mixed in with simple creatures when looking at rock strata

God is just a theory about how we got here. A theory unsupported by any evidence

There are no simple creatures. Everything has complexity. GOD is as real as gravity and the wind. As for the evolutionary fossil record theory: Fossils and Rock Strata

Yes there are simple creatures...mollusks, clams , troglodytes
Their fossilized remains are not found with dinosaurs and human remains
It shows....EVOLUTION

God is a simplistic explanation for how life became

Oh....I actually read your link
It was silly

Mollusks, clams, and troglodytes are NOT simple creatures . They also happen to be aquatic, which means that they didn't live with land animals and there is no reason that they would be found with land animals. There are several very good reasons for this. The FLOOD would have turned most marshy areas to muddy swamps as the rains continued. This would likely kill aquatic creatures in such areas first, as animals and humanity moved to higher ground. The dinosaurs would have died early because they could only venture so high. And humans and birds would have died last as they could either fly of venture ever upward -- until they ran out of places to go. Then again aquatic creatures would have been stranded and covered in muck as the water retreated into the ocean basins GOD had created, as the mountains were pushed upward. It all makes sense to me. I don't know why you cannot at least see things other than what evolutionist spout . They don't know everything --- they were not there and they don't accept divine revelation. But they do believe each other! And they love to hear themselves talk... Sorry, I'm not being very charitable ---- but then, when have evolutionists..?

You think clams and mollusks have advanced brains?

If there was a flood....ALL creatures would have sunk to the bottom and there would have been a mixture of all complexities of animals

There weren’t

 

[fncceo]

This program, by a former atheist/evolutionist, demonstrates that what evolutionists have predicted in fact is not what astronomers observes. In fact, they insist on using catastrophic events to explain these ambiguities. Oddly, they will not accept the Flood of Noah as such a catastrophic event on earth even though there is enough water to cover the entire earth with 1.5 depth of water. The reason for this seems to be obvious. Evolutionists do not want to accept either a young creation nor a CREATOR! Watch the following and be astounded:

The Neanderthals Didn't Die Out; They Were Killed Off

Narrow-minded academics miss the point when they try to find the actual event that led to the story in the Bible. But it was not so much about a flood as it was about extermination.

No ticket on The Ark?

 

[fncceo]

troglodytes are NOT simple creatures . They also happen to be aquatic,

Troglodyte means 'cave dweller'.

 

[LittleNipper]

Micro shifting is fact. Macro change is a fairy tail. GOD is real to those that call on HIS name.

Evolution is a FACT

There are no complex lifeforms mixed in with simple creatures when looking at rock strata

God is just a theory about how we got here. A theory unsupported by any evidence

There are no simple creatures. Everything has complexity. GOD is as real as gravity and the wind. As for the evolutionary fossil record theory: Fossils and Rock Strata

Yes there are simple creatures...mollusks, clams , troglodytes
Their fossilized remains are not found with dinosaurs and human remains
It shows....EVOLUTION

God is a simplistic explanation for how life became

Oh....I actually read your link
It was silly

Mollusks, clams, and trilobites are/were NOT simple creatures . They also happen to be aquatic, which means that they didn't live with land animals and there is no reason that they would be found with land animals. There are several very good reasons for this. The FLOOD would have turned most marshy areas to muddy swamps as the rains continued. This would likely kill aquatic creatures in such areas first, as animals and humanity moved to higher ground. The dinosaurs would have died early because they could only venture so high. And humans and birds would have died last as they could either fly of venture ever upward -- until they ran out of places to go. Then again aquatic creatures would have been stranded and covered in muck as the water retreated into the ocean basins GOD had created, as the mountains were pushed upward. It all makes sense to me. I don't know why you cannot at least see things other than what evolutionist spout . They don't know everything --- they were not there and they don't accept divine revelation. But they do believe each other! And they love to hear themselves talk... Sorry, I'm not being very charitable ---- but then, when have evolutionists..?

You think clams and mollusks have advanced brains?

If there was a flood....ALL creatures would have sunk to the bottom and there would have been a mixture of all complexities of animals

There weren’t

Animals forming fossils would have been buried in layers as they died --- immediately. Those that died and were not so buried would have dissolved, decomposed or been eaten as were the drowned passengers of the Titanic leaving only pairs of shoes in less than 100 years.

 

[LittleNipper]

troglodytes are NOT simple creatures . They also happen to be aquatic,

Troglodyte means 'cave dweller'.

Silly me, I confused them with Trilobites --- which I understand seem to be extinct...
By the way, I loved The Honeymooners ---- I mean Flintstones --- either or...

 

[LittleNipper]

This program, by a former atheist/evolutionist, demonstrates that what evolutionists have predicted in fact is not what astronomers observes. In fact, they insist on using catastrophic events to explain these ambiguities. Oddly, they will not accept the Flood of Noah as such a catastrophic event on earth even though there is enough water to cover the entire earth with 1.5 depth of water. The reason for this seems to be obvious. Evolutionists do not want to accept either a young creation nor a CREATOR! Watch the following and be astounded:

The Neanderthals Didn't Die Out; They Were Killed Off

Narrow-minded academics miss the point when they try to find the actual event that led to the story in the Bible. But it was not so much about a flood as it was about extermination.

No ticket on The Ark?

Lot's son's in-law didn't leave Sodom either! They likely thought Lot was crazy. I'm sure Noah's contemporaries thought him some sort of weirdo. I mean who ever heard of a FLOOD and or building a ship miles inland... The door on the ark was closed by the LORD and they sat inside for a week before the FLOOD's arrival... Likely GOD knew that everyone would want to hop on then! So many details that scoffers know nothing about (because they didn't read the book!).

 

[fncceo]

I mean who ever heard of a FLOOD and or building a ship miles inland.

Pretty sure any ancient human who lived within a mile of a river knew what a flood was.

Floods are they entire reason Egypt existed as an agrarian power.

 

[rightwinger]

Evolution is a FACT
God is a THEORY

Micro shifting is fact. Macro change is a fairy tail. GOD is real to those that call on HIS name.

Evolution is a FACT

There are no complex lifeforms mixed in with simple creatures when looking at rock strata

God is just a theory about how we got here. A theory unsupported by any evidence

There are no simple creatures. Everything has complexity. GOD is as real as gravity and the wind. As for the evolutionary fossil record theory: Fossils and Rock Strata

Yes there are simple creatures...mollusks, clams , troglodytes
Their fossilized remains are not found with dinosaurs and human remains
It shows....EVOLUTION

God is a simplistic explanation for how life became

Oh....I actually read your link
It was silly

Mollusks, clams, and troglodytes are NOT simple creatures . They also happen to be aquatic, which means that they didn't live with land animals and there is no reason that they would be found with land animals. There are several very good reasons for this. The FLOOD would have turned most marshy areas to muddy swamps as the rains continued. This would likely kill aquatic creatures in such areas first, as animals and humanity moved to higher ground. The dinosaurs would have died early because they could only venture so high. And humans and birds would have died last as they could either fly of venture ever upward -- until they ran out of places to go. Then again aquatic creatures would have been stranded and covered in muck as the water retreated into the ocean basins GOD had created, as the mountains were pushed upward. It all makes sense to me. I don't know why you cannot at least see things other than what evolutionist spout . They don't know everything --- they were not there and they don't accept divine revelation. But they do believe each other! And they love to hear themselves talk... Sorry, I'm not being very charitable ---- but then, when have evolutionists..?

If there was a flood of that magnitude

Where did the water go?

 

[LittleNipper]

Micro shifting is fact. Macro change is a fairy tail. GOD is real to those that call on HIS name.

Evolution is a FACT

There are no complex lifeforms mixed in with simple creatures when looking at rock strata

God is just a theory about how we got here. A theory unsupported by any evidence

There are no simple creatures. Everything has complexity. GOD is as real as gravity and the wind. As for the evolutionary fossil record theory: Fossils and Rock Strata

Yes there are simple creatures...mollusks, clams , troglodytes
Their fossilized remains are not found with dinosaurs and human remains
It shows....EVOLUTION

God is a simplistic explanation for how life became

Oh....I actually read your link
It was silly

Mollusks, clams, and troglodytes are NOT simple creatures . They also happen to be aquatic, which means that they didn't live with land animals and there is no reason that they would be found with land animals. There are several very good reasons for this. The FLOOD would have turned most marshy areas to muddy swamps as the rains continued. This would likely kill aquatic creatures in such areas first, as animals and humanity moved to higher ground. The dinosaurs would have died early because they could only venture so high. And humans and birds would have died last as they could either fly of venture ever upward -- until they ran out of places to go. Then again aquatic creatures would have been stranded and covered in muck as the water retreated into the ocean basins GOD had created, as the mountains were pushed upward. It all makes sense to me. I don't know why you cannot at least see things other than what evolutionist spout . They don't know everything --- they were not there and they don't accept divine revelation. But they do believe each other! And they love to hear themselves talk... Sorry, I'm not being very charitable ---- but then, when have evolutionists..?

If there was a flood of that magnitude

Where did the water go?

Read the description of the New earth in Revelations. It is most likely very similar to the "New" earth that GOD originally created for Adam & Eve. The earth was smoother and the oceans were likely shallower and much smaller. There is every likelihood that the surface of the earth was honeycombed with subterranean caverns and reservoirs filled with water. These may likely have been under strategic necessary pressure. There is also the possibility that some sort of canopy of water/ice surrounded the earth to protect everything from ultraviolet light from the sun and slowed the aging process of everything. The oxygen levels at that time likely more concentrated...

Then GOD allowed something to happen. The canopy became unstable and the surface of the planet convulsed. The water shot up as geysers out of the earth. Volcanoes erupted and the canopy rained down upon the planet. This happened in stages over a period of 40 days and longer. As a year progressed, some ares began to drop and deepen and other areas began to rise --- allowing land to reappear and a wind began to dry out the exposed areas.

The earth is presently covered 70% by water. The oceans NOW run 7 miles deep in some areas. The water is still visible and even unseen underground... We now know that there is water under mountains and in many areas. Anyway, that is my feeble attempt at understanding the FLOOD that GOD allowed to happen. This theory certainly does not go against what the Bible does inform us. And it does explain why we see layers of strata. They represent various phases of the FLOOD, the volcanic, meteoric showers, and the drying and resurfacing of this planet. PLUS, since the FLOOD, the earth has never fully recovered and is still convulsing to this very day.

 

[LittleNipper]

I mean who ever heard of a FLOOD and or building a ship miles inland.

Pretty sure any ancient human who lived within a mile of a river knew what a flood was.

Floods are they entire reason Egypt existed as an agrarian power.

I believe that the TOWER of Babel was man's vain attempt (not believing GOD when HE categorically stated that HE would never bring another FLOOD to wipe out all life) at constructing a man-made mountain to prevent GOD's wrath from drowning man again. Remember that they were building a tower to extend upward into heaven. They were not just building a tall tower for the heck of it...

 

[fncceo]

I mean who ever heard of a FLOOD and or building a ship miles inland.

Pretty sure any ancient human who lived within a mile of a river knew what a flood was.

Floods are they entire reason Egypt existed as an agrarian power.

I believe that the TOWER of Babel was man's vain attempt (not believing GOD when HE categorically stated that HE would never bring another FLOOD to wipe out all life) at constructing a man-made mountain to prevent GOD's wrath from drowning man again. Remember that they were building a tower to extend upward into heaven. They were not just building a tall tower for the heck of it...

Is there a reason I should be interested in what you believe?

 

[LittleNipper]

I mean who ever heard of a FLOOD and or building a ship miles inland.

Pretty sure any ancient human who lived within a mile of a river knew what a flood was.

Floods are they entire reason Egypt existed as an agrarian power.

I believe that the TOWER of Babel was man's vain attempt (not believing GOD when HE categorically stated that HE would never bring another FLOOD to wipe out all life) at constructing a man-made mountain to prevent GOD's wrath from drowning man again. Remember that they were building a tower to extend upward into heaven. They were not just building a tall tower for the heck of it...

Is there a reason I should be interested in what you believe?

Well, I'm interested in what you believe. I'm just trying to understand why you believe it when there is alternatives that are founded on GOD. Now, if you don't believe in GOD, you may have other motives. But the reality is that even without GOD, there is physical proof that the FLOOD was a likely event but needs GOD. Evolutionist needs TIME but are also faced with belief to support their theory. We both share the fossils. It's their understanding that differs...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Book of Genesis is neither a science or history book

You don't have to tell me this. You need to tell this to the Christians claiming it is not only both,but is also absolutely correct. You will find more than one of them in this thread.

I also reject your romantic notions of what it is. Here is what I think it is:

The product of fertile imaginations and plagiarism of old myths, written down to explain things that the utterly ignorant people of the bronze age could not explain.

And that is all.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Evolution is a FACT

There are no complex lifeforms mixed in with simple creatures when looking at rock strata

God is just a theory about how we got here. A theory unsupported by any evidence

There are no simple creatures. Everything has complexity. GOD is as real as gravity and the wind. As for the evolutionary fossil record theory: Fossils and Rock Strata

Yes there are simple creatures...mollusks, clams , troglodytes
Their fossilized remains are not found with dinosaurs and human remains
It shows....EVOLUTION

God is a simplistic explanation for how life became

Oh....I actually read your link
It was silly

Mollusks, clams, and trilobites are/were NOT simple creatures . They also happen to be aquatic, which means that they didn't live with land animals and there is no reason that they would be found with land animals. There are several very good reasons for this. The FLOOD would have turned most marshy areas to muddy swamps as the rains continued. This would likely kill aquatic creatures in such areas first, as animals and humanity moved to higher ground. The dinosaurs would have died early because they could only venture so high. And humans and birds would have died last as they could either fly of venture ever upward -- until they ran out of places to go. Then again aquatic creatures would have been stranded and covered in muck as the water retreated into the ocean basins GOD had created, as the mountains were pushed upward. It all makes sense to me. I don't know why you cannot at least see things other than what evolutionist spout . They don't know everything --- they were not there and they don't accept divine revelation. But they do believe each other! And they love to hear themselves talk... Sorry, I'm not being very charitable ---- but then, when have evolutionists..?

You think clams and mollusks have advanced brains?

If there was a flood....ALL creatures would have sunk to the bottom and there would have been a mixture of all complexities of animals

There weren’t

Animals forming fossils would have been buried in layers as they died --- immediately. Those that died and were not so buried would have dissolved, decomposed or been eaten as were the drowned passengers of the Titanic leaving only pairs of shoes in less than 100 years.

You don't know what you are talking about. You need to do some research.

 

[LittleNipper]

There are no simple creatures. Everything has complexity. GOD is as real as gravity and the wind. As for the evolutionary fossil record theory: Fossils and Rock Strata

Yes there are simple creatures...mollusks, clams , troglodytes
Their fossilized remains are not found with dinosaurs and human remains
It shows....EVOLUTION

God is a simplistic explanation for how life became

Oh....I actually read your link
It was silly

Mollusks, clams, and trilobites are/were NOT simple creatures . They also happen to be aquatic, which means that they didn't live with land animals and there is no reason that they would be found with land animals. There are several very good reasons for this. The FLOOD would have turned most marshy areas to muddy swamps as the rains continued. This would likely kill aquatic creatures in such areas first, as animals and humanity moved to higher ground. The dinosaurs would have died early because they could only venture so high. And humans and birds would have died last as they could either fly of venture ever upward -- until they ran out of places to go. Then again aquatic creatures would have been stranded and covered in muck as the water retreated into the ocean basins GOD had created, as the mountains were pushed upward. It all makes sense to me. I don't know why you cannot at least see things other than what evolutionist spout . They don't know everything --- they were not there and they don't accept divine revelation. But they do believe each other! And they love to hear themselves talk... Sorry, I'm not being very charitable ---- but then, when have evolutionists..?

You think clams and mollusks have advanced brains?

If there was a flood....ALL creatures would have sunk to the bottom and there would have been a mixture of all complexities of animals

There weren’t

Animals forming fossils would have been buried in layers as they died --- immediately. Those that died and were not so buried would have dissolved, decomposed or been eaten as were the drowned passengers of the Titanic leaving only pairs of shoes in less than 100 years.

You don't know what you are talking about. You need to do some research.

The only fossils that exist occurred when the fossilized organism was quickly buried. If left exposed for any length of time the organism will decay and disappear. I don't believe I can be clearer than that. Fossils are the product of QUICK burial of one sort or another. If you don't get that, I suggest you do your own research.

 

[LittleNipper]

I like the fairy tale about the universe magically creating itself out of nothing. That one is a hoot.

Yeah, that is a pretty absurd trait of the Bible creation myth. God speaks and *poof*, something from nothing. Maybe a child would believe it....but most people grow out of that nonsense.

And the flood myth in the bible isn’t even original; indeed, flood myths are universal and predate the bible myth, such as the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh, which is nearly 5,000 years old.

The FLOOD is not the result of some Sumerian Epic. The Sumerian Epic was the end result of Semitic oral history at the very least.

 

[LittleNipper]

There are no simple creatures. Everything has complexity. GOD is as real as gravity and the wind. As for the evolutionary fossil record theory: Fossils and Rock Strata

Yes there are simple creatures...mollusks, clams , troglodytes
Their fossilized remains are not found with dinosaurs and human remains
It shows....EVOLUTION

God is a simplistic explanation for how life became

Oh....I actually read your link
It was silly

Mollusks, clams, and trilobites are/were NOT simple creatures . They also happen to be aquatic, which means that they didn't live with land animals and there is no reason that they would be found with land animals. There are several very good reasons for this. The FLOOD would have turned most marshy areas to muddy swamps as the rains continued. This would likely kill aquatic creatures in such areas first, as animals and humanity moved to higher ground. The dinosaurs would have died early because they could only venture so high. And humans and birds would have died last as they could either fly of venture ever upward -- until they ran out of places to go. Then again aquatic creatures would have been stranded and covered in muck as the water retreated into the ocean basins GOD had created, as the mountains were pushed upward. It all makes sense to me. I don't know why you cannot at least see things other than what evolutionist spout . They don't know everything --- they were not there and they don't accept divine revelation. But they do believe each other! And they love to hear themselves talk... Sorry, I'm not being very charitable ---- but then, when have evolutionists..?

You think clams and mollusks have advanced brains?

If there was a flood....ALL creatures would have sunk to the bottom and there would have been a mixture of all complexities of animals

There weren’t

Animals forming fossils would have been buried in layers as they died --- immediately. Those that died and were not so buried would have dissolved, decomposed or been eaten as were the drowned passengers of the Titanic leaving only pairs of shoes in less than 100 years.

You don't know what you are talking about. You need to do some research.

I don't care what you think. You don't do any research.

 

[LittleNipper]

This hot garbage thread should be moved immediately to the Conspiracy Theory section. The fact that it has not is just another example of magical hooha and conspiracy theories getting a pass, if they are cloaked in the veneer of a "major religion".

If I started a thread in this section stating that my talking houseplants have informed me that the global scientific community is engaged in a vast conspiracy to lie about the theory of gravity, it would be moved immediately.

True.

And this thread certainly doesn’t belong in the Science and Technology forum.

In that case neither do any threads regarding evolution. They are mere "educated" guesses that have NEVER been either proven or observed. Even the smallest organism has never been observed or even coaxed to become a multi cell organism. Just because one doesn't wish to regard a CREATOR, doesn't result in that one's theories being more scientific --- if even really scientific at all.

 

[LittleNipper]

[edited by indiajo]......even though there is enough water to cover the entire earth with 1.5 depth of water.

with 1.5 WHAT??????????
depth is no measurement, for heavens sake!!!!

And no, there is enough water. I live on 480m above sea level and feel pretty safe, even if antarctica, greenland and the icecubes in my fridge are melting.

Sorry, 1 and 1/2 MILES of water deep.
.

No professor, there is not enough water to cover the earth 1.5 miles deep. Because,as it turns out, the surface of the earth is not flat. In order to submerge Mount Everest by 1.5 miles, the depth of the water over the ocean basins would have to be 12 miles deep. The goober in the video really is a fool.

Just because the surface of this planet isn't smooth now, doesn't scientifically prove it wasn't at sometime in the past. The fool is the atheist who digs his own hole and jumps in.

 

[rightwinger]

Evolution is a FACT

There are no complex lifeforms mixed in with simple creatures when looking at rock strata

God is just a theory about how we got here. A theory unsupported by any evidence

There are no simple creatures. Everything has complexity. GOD is as real as gravity and the wind. As for the evolutionary fossil record theory: Fossils and Rock Strata

Yes there are simple creatures...mollusks, clams , troglodytes
Their fossilized remains are not found with dinosaurs and human remains
It shows....EVOLUTION

God is a simplistic explanation for how life became

Oh....I actually read your link
It was silly

Mollusks, clams, and troglodytes are NOT simple creatures . They also happen to be aquatic, which means that they didn't live with land animals and there is no reason that they would be found with land animals. There are several very good reasons for this. The FLOOD would have turned most marshy areas to muddy swamps as the rains continued. This would likely kill aquatic creatures in such areas first, as animals and humanity moved to higher ground. The dinosaurs would have died early because they could only venture so high. And humans and birds would have died last as they could either fly of venture ever upward -- until they ran out of places to go. Then again aquatic creatures would have been stranded and covered in muck as the water retreated into the ocean basins GOD had created, as the mountains were pushed upward. It all makes sense to me. I don't know why you cannot at least see things other than what evolutionist spout . They don't know everything --- they were not there and they don't accept divine revelation. But they do believe each other! And they love to hear themselves talk... Sorry, I'm not being very charitable ---- but then, when have evolutionists..?

If there was a flood of that magnitude

Where did the water go?

Read the description of the New earth in Revelations. It is most likely very similar to the "New" earth that GOD originally created for Adam & Eve. The earth was smoother and the oceans were likely shallower and much smaller. There is every likelihood that the surface of the earth was honeycombed with subterranean caverns and reservoirs filled with water. These may likely have been under strategic necessary pressure. There is also the possibility that some sort of canopy of water/ice surrounded the earth to protect everything from ultraviolet light from the sun and slowed the aging process of everything. The oxygen levels at that time likely more concentrated...

Then GOD allowed something to happen. The canopy became unstable and the surface of the planet convulsed. The water shot up as geysers out of the earth. Volcanoes erupted and the canopy rained down upon the planet. This happened in stages over a period of 40 days and longer. As a year progressed, some ares began to drop and deepen and other areas began to rise --- allowing land to reappear and a wind began to dry out the exposed areas.

The earth is presently covered 70% by water. The oceans NOW run 7 miles deep in some areas. The water is still visible and even unseen underground... We now know that there is water under mountains and in many areas. Anyway, that is my feeble attempt at understanding the FLOOD that GOD allowed to happen. This theory certainly does not go against what the Bible does inform us. And it does explain why we see layers of strata. They represent various phases of the FLOOD, the volcanic, meteoric showers, and the drying and resurfacing of this planet. PLUS, since the FLOOD, the earth has never fully recovered and is still convulsing to this very day.

Wow...quite impressive

But if that is the way the earth handled the generation of water and the depletion of water, there would still be evidence of those capability today

There isn’t