Our CREATED solar system ---- what you are not being told

[Windparadox]

Sorry. There’s no evidence of any global flood 6,000 years ago. The biblical flood tale is just one of many that developed at the end of the last Ice Age.http://www.talkorigins.org/pdf/flood-myths.pdf

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I send my daughters to a Catholic High school and even the Catholics don't teach the entire earth was covered with water. There is archeological evidence that a "great deluge" occurred specifically in the Mediterranean Sea area (in Noah's time) but even that was short lived.

 

[LittleNipper]

Sorry. There’s no evidence of any global flood 6,000 years ago. The biblical flood tale is just one of many that developed at the end of the last Ice Age.http://www.talkorigins.org/pdf/flood-myths.pdf

`
I send my daughters to a Catholic High school and even the Catholics don't teach the entire earth was covered with water. There is archeological evidence that a "great deluge" occurred specifically in the Mediterranean Sea area (in Noah's time) but even that was short lived.

And "modernism" has been the downfall of Roman Catholicism. There are Canyons everywhere. There bone yards everywhere. There sea fossils found at the top of mountains. There is more water on the earth that would cover the earth to 1.5 miles if the ocean beds rose and the mountains were lowered. And the discovery of dinosaur flesh calls into question millions and millions of years. Dinosaur Shocker | Science | Smithsonian The Roman Catholic church has not a few problems and we see those who have left that church and have found ours. One cannot underestimate GOD and follow Him and respect His abilities to save.

 

[Windparadox]

And "modernism" has been the downfall of Roman Catholicism. There are Canyons everywhere. There bone yards everywhere. There sea fossils found at the top of mountains. There is more water on the earth that would cover the earth to 1.5 miles if the ocean beds rose and the mountains were lowered. And the discovery of dinosaur flesh calls into question millions and millions of years. Dinosaur Shocker | Science | Smithsonian The Roman Catholic church has not a few problems and we see those who have left that church and have found ours. One cannot underestimate GOD and follow Him and respect His abilities to save.

`
Unlike the protestants, the Catholics don't take the bible literally and put more emphasis on the new, not old testament.
`

 

[LittleNipper]

And "modernism" has been the downfall of Roman Catholicism. There are Canyons everywhere. There bone yards everywhere. There sea fossils found at the top of mountains. There is more water on the earth that would cover the earth to 1.5 miles if the ocean beds rose and the mountains were lowered. And the discovery of dinosaur flesh calls into question millions and millions of years. Dinosaur Shocker | Science | Smithsonian The Roman Catholic church has not a few problems and we see those who have left that church and have found ours. One cannot underestimate GOD and follow Him and respect His abilities to save.

`
Unlike the protestants, the Catholics don't take the bible literally and put more emphasis on the new, not old testament.
`

It is interesting that you state this because Jesus says the following concerning both Adam and Noah in the New Testament:

“For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.” – Jesus of Nazareth

The Thread of History
The writers of the New Testament regularly refer back to people and events that happened long before them but which are still connected to their lives in the first century AD.

This is one of the key assumptions of our project on Genesis: people like Paul, Luke, Jesus, Peter, and John refer to the people and events of Genesis as real history. They talk about them like we talk about historical people and events that had an impact on our lives today.

Genesis according to Jesus
One of Jesus’ favorite methods was to ask people if they had read a passage from the Old Testament. This is a good approach: start with the text. In talking about divorce, Jesus asks: “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?” (Matthew 19:4-5)

Jesus obviously had read Genesis 1 and 2 because He’s quoting it. We don’t often think about Jesus reading the Old Testament, but He did. As a well-taught Jewish boy in the first century, He would have gone through the normal Torah instruction all boys His age did.

He knew that Genesis says Adam and Eve were created on the sixth day of creation. According to Jesus, that sixth day of creation was “from the beginning,” a phrase we hear a number of times in the New Testament. It refers to the beginning of creation as recorded in Genesis 1.

In other words, Jesus is pointing out that Adam and Eve were real people who were created in the beginning to be married only to each other. He wants to remind His listeners when they were created so they would know it has always been that way; as a result, their pretensions to divorce were against the creation order established at the start of all things. According to Jesus, Adam and Eve were two real people created to be married at a real time, and his listeners would be wise to understand the importance of that.

In another passage, Matthew records how Jesus condemns the pharisees and scribes for their blatant hypocrisy. Not one to mince words, He tells them God sent them the prophets to kill “so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah…”(Matthew 23:35) According to Jesus, Abel was a real person whose blood was shed by his brother, but whose punishment would fall onto all those who rejected God’s prophets.

Finally, right before His death, Jesus tells His disciples key details about His return saying: “For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.” (Matthew 24:37-39)

I find this interesting for a number of reasons. First, not only does Jesus know the catastrophic historical events recorded in Genesis 6 and 7, but He also knows His audience is familiar with them. Their prior understanding of the flood’s unexpected, total destruction is the basis for His comparison.

Second, Jesus describes the normal actions of the people living in Noah’s day as “unaware” that a flood was coming. This is how we hear people describe natural disasters; they are consistently surprised by them. It is an interesting note of historical authenticity that plays into His comparison.

Third, Jesus says the flood swept them all away. The fact that Jesus is linking an event where “all flesh died that moved on the earth, birds, livestock, beasts, all swarming creatures that swarm on the earth, and all mankind” to His eventual return, means something about that return. It’s going to be big, and it’s going to affect everyone.

According to Jesus, Noah, the ark, and a global flood that killed all the birds, beasts, and people on the earth, were as historically real as His second coming. They are a historical preview of coming attractions that everyone would be wise to remember in terms of their timing and scope.

This is one of the many reasons the idea that Noah’s flood was a local flood somewhere in the Middle East is a misguided interpretation. It does not fit the language of Genesis, well-known to both Jesus and His disciples, which is central to His comparison. Were the flood recorded in Genesis just local, it would make Jesus’ comparison be that ‘my return is going to be local, and it’s going to affect a few living creatures.’ But that’s not what either Jesus or Genesis says.

The fact that Jesus was well acquainted with the actual words of Genesis and knew them to be real history is why it is such a powerful statement. If Noah was not real, or if everyone in the world was not killed, or if the flood was not global, then Jesus’ comments make no sense. As He might say to a modern audience debating Noah and the extent of the flood, “Have you not read what I said about them?”

Genesis According to Luke
Luke is probably the best historian of the New Testament. I say this for two reasons. First, he did not personally witness most of the events he wrote about, but instead “having followed all things closely for some time past” decided “to write an orderly account” concerning the life of Jesus and the early church. This means he had to interview people and read things written by others to “compile a narrative of the things that have been accomplished among us.” (Luke 1:1-3)

Second, Luke takes great care to link the events he’s writing about to the generally-accepted calendar markers of his day. These include governmental posts and reigns of emperors. He also took time to research the family genealogical lists of Joseph and Mary’s line to show how Jesus’ physical descent was linked back in time through real people.

There is nothing more basic to understanding the links making up history than a genealogical list. Although they are often skipped over by modern readers, in the first century they would have been of primary importance. This is why they start both Matthew’s and Luke’s gospels; they are intentionally different, too, since one is royal and the other physical – both important lineages for Jesus being the Christ.

In the third chapter of his gospel, Luke finishes his account of Jesus’ baptism by quoting the words of God from heaven: “You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased.” This statement from God provides us Jesus’ direct divine lineage. But knowing that Jesus was both God and man, Luke proceeds to show how he is linked back to Adam, the first son of God.

And so Luke plows through the 70-odd men who are physically related to Jesus, going back through David, Abraham, Noah, and ending with “Adam, the son of God.” This is basically a genealogical timeline of the world from the beginning of creation to Jesus. Luke clearly sees all these names as real men who conceived sons with their wives (the possibility of Levirate marriage naturally included). In one sense, genealogy just lists the chain links of history.

Furthermore, Luke goes on in his next section to show us that both Jesus and Adam hold similar roles in the history of the world. Luke assumes his readers know about the history recorded in Genesis 3 (a temptation of the “first man” by Satan in a bountiful garden), so that they will understand what happened to Jesus (a temptation of the “last man” by Satan in a wilderness, the barren result of God’s curse on His creation).

The point here is that Luke is intimately aware of the history recorded in Genesis. According to Luke, all the people he lists out in his genealogy are real people who lived at real times whose actions had real consequences. This is, after all, what good historians do: they show how different events that happen in history are related.

In fact, the relationship between Jesus and Adam is the most important relationship in all of history. It is central to the gospel and what Jesus came to do. We can therefore do no better than to end with the apostle Paul’s explanation of what these men did that has the utmost impact on our lives today:

“For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. And the free gift is not like the result of that one man’s sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. For if, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous.” (Romans 5:15-18)

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I like the fairy tale about the universe magically creating itself out of nothing. That one is a hoot.

Yeah, that is a pretty absurd trait of the Bible creation myth. God speaks and *poof*, something from nothing. Maybe a child would believe it....but most people grow out of that nonsense.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

[edited by indiajo]......even though there is enough water to cover the entire earth with 1.5 depth of water.

with 1.5 WHAT??????????
depth is no measurement, for heavens sake!!!!

And no, there is enough water. I live on 480m above sea level and feel pretty safe, even if antarctica, greenland and the icecubes in my fridge are melting.

Sorry, 1 and 1/2 MILES of water deep.
.

No professor, there is not enough water to cover the earth 1.5 miles deep. Because,as it turns out, the surface of the earth is not flat. In order to submerge Mount Everest by 1.5 miles, the depth of the water over the ocean basins would have to be 12 miles deep. The goober in the video really is a fool.

 

[rightwinger]

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #1042: Spike Psarris

Everyone who doesn't embrace the National Academic Religion of EVOLUTION is labeled a loon in order to discredit those which may just stem the tide of control away from atheism and return America back to One Nation under GOD. IN GOD WE TRUST May actually mean something once again if an honest balance is regained.

Evolution is a FACT
God is a THEORY

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

This hot garbage thread should be moved immediately to the Conspiracy Theory section. The fact that it has not is just another example of magical hooha and conspiracy theories getting a pass, if they are cloaked in the veneer of a "major religion".

If I started a thread in this section stating that my talking houseplants have informed me that the global scientific community is engaged in a vast conspiracy to lie about the theory of gravity, it would be moved immediately.

 

[LittleNipper]

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #1042: Spike Psarris

Everyone who doesn't embrace the National Academic Religion of EVOLUTION is labeled a loon in order to discredit those which may just stem the tide of control away from atheism and return America back to One Nation under GOD. IN GOD WE TRUST May actually mean something once again if an honest balance is regained.

Evolution is a FACT
God is a THEORY

Micro shifting is fact. Macro change is a fairy tail. GOD is real to those that call on HIS name.

 

[rightwinger]

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #1042: Spike Psarris

Everyone who doesn't embrace the National Academic Religion of EVOLUTION is labeled a loon in order to discredit those which may just stem the tide of control away from atheism and return America back to One Nation under GOD. IN GOD WE TRUST May actually mean something once again if an honest balance is regained.

Evolution is a FACT
God is a THEORY

Micro shifting is fact. Macro change is a fairy tail. GOD is real to those that call on HIS name.

Evolution is a FACT

There are no complex lifeforms mixed in with simple creatures when looking at rock strata

God is just a theory about how we got here. A theory unsupported by any evidence

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #1042: Spike Psarris

Everyone who doesn't embrace the National Academic Religion of EVOLUTION is labeled a loon in order to discredit those which may just stem the tide of control away from atheism and return America back to One Nation under GOD. IN GOD WE TRUST May actually mean something once again if an honest balance is regained.

The loons from the fundamentalist ministries discredit themselves without a single assist from me.
The fundamentalist Christian ministries obviously find that the sciences of biology, chemistry, paleontology, etc are wrong.
tries reinforce a host of negative stereotypes linked to the hyper-religious.

Tempest in a Testament

What is the point of all this fuss anyway, and why is something as useless and impractical as evolution or creationism taught in the schools, wasting our time, energy, and tax dollars? It's not like we are going to create life somewhere and have to know how. Remember, science fiction is slanted towards the sensational, not the useful or even the possible. In our decadent quibbling times, only the irrelevant and unproductive become issues. This debate is the Kim Kardashian of scientific progress.

A creationist scientist is not going to try to get his experiment to work by letting God do it. He confines that belief to obscure prehistory and proceeds in his actual work just like an atheist scientist would.

The issue at hand is that children are being influenced to believe that there is only MATERIALISM. There is no spirituality because GOD is not real... Schools have replaced philosophy and deep thought with millions of years, a series of accidents, and memorization of select propaganda. They are not allowed the freedom to conclude that Dragons and Dinosaurs are one in the same. They are not allowed to fathom that Noah's Flood likely created most of the fossils that are discovered. Students are dissuaded from perusing the logic that finding dinosaur flesh likely means that such bones cannot be millions of years old, but merely thousands at the most... Evolution is undermining inquiry because it cannot stand upon it own merits with competition. It must eliminate other trains of thought or find itself losing its authority and preeminence.

To advocate that this sort of ignorance and stupidity be taught to children is reckless, irresponsible, and reprehensible.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

And "modernism" has been the downfall of Roman Catholicism. There are Canyons everywhere. There bone yards everywhere. There sea fossils found at the top of mountains. There is more water on the earth that would cover the earth to 1.5 miles if the ocean beds rose and the mountains were lowered. And the discovery of dinosaur flesh calls into question millions and millions of years. Dinosaur Shocker | Science | Smithsonian The Roman Catholic church has not a few problems and we see those who have left that church and have found ours. One cannot underestimate GOD and follow Him and respect His abilities to save.

`
Unlike the protestants, the Catholics don't take the bible literally and put more emphasis on the new, not old testament.
`

It is interesting that you state this because Jesus says the following concerning both Adam and Noah in the New Testament:

“For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.” – Jesus of Nazareth

The Thread of History
The writers of the New Testament regularly refer back to people and events that happened long before them but which are still connected to their lives in the first century AD.

This is one of the key assumptions of our project on Genesis: people like Paul, Luke, Jesus, Peter, and John refer to the people and events of Genesis as real history. They talk about them like we talk about historical people and events that had an impact on our lives today.

Genesis according to Jesus
One of Jesus’ favorite methods was to ask people if they had read a passage from the Old Testament. This is a good approach: start with the text. In talking about divorce, Jesus asks: “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?” (Matthew 19:4-5)

Jesus obviously had read Genesis 1 and 2 because He’s quoting it. We don’t often think about Jesus reading the Old Testament, but He did. As a well-taught Jewish boy in the first century, He would have gone through the normal Torah instruction all boys His age did.

He knew that Genesis says Adam and Eve were created on the sixth day of creation. According to Jesus, that sixth day of creation was “from the beginning,” a phrase we hear a number of times in the New Testament. It refers to the beginning of creation as recorded in Genesis 1.

In other words, Jesus is pointing out that Adam and Eve were real people who were created in the beginning to be married only to each other. He wants to remind His listeners when they were created so they would know it has always been that way; as a result, their pretensions to divorce were against the creation order established at the start of all things. According to Jesus, Adam and Eve were two real people created to be married at a real time, and his listeners would be wise to understand the importance of that.

In another passage, Matthew records how Jesus condemns the pharisees and scribes for their blatant hypocrisy. Not one to mince words, He tells them God sent them the prophets to kill “so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah…”(Matthew 23:35) According to Jesus, Abel was a real person whose blood was shed by his brother, but whose punishment would fall onto all those who rejected God’s prophets.

Finally, right before His death, Jesus tells His disciples key details about His return saying: “For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.” (Matthew 24:37-39)

I find this interesting for a number of reasons. First, not only does Jesus know the catastrophic historical events recorded in Genesis 6 and 7, but He also knows His audience is familiar with them. Their prior understanding of the flood’s unexpected, total destruction is the basis for His comparison.

Second, Jesus describes the normal actions of the people living in Noah’s day as “unaware” that a flood was coming. This is how we hear people describe natural disasters; they are consistently surprised by them. It is an interesting note of historical authenticity that plays into His comparison.

Third, Jesus says the flood swept them all away. The fact that Jesus is linking an event where “all flesh died that moved on the earth, birds, livestock, beasts, all swarming creatures that swarm on the earth, and all mankind” to His eventual return, means something about that return. It’s going to be big, and it’s going to affect everyone.

According to Jesus, Noah, the ark, and a global flood that killed all the birds, beasts, and people on the earth, were as historically real as His second coming. They are a historical preview of coming attractions that everyone would be wise to remember in terms of their timing and scope.

This is one of the many reasons the idea that Noah’s flood was a local flood somewhere in the Middle East is a misguided interpretation. It does not fit the language of Genesis, well-known to both Jesus and His disciples, which is central to His comparison. Were the flood recorded in Genesis just local, it would make Jesus’ comparison be that ‘my return is going to be local, and it’s going to affect a few living creatures.’ But that’s not what either Jesus or Genesis says.

The fact that Jesus was well acquainted with the actual words of Genesis and knew them to be real history is why it is such a powerful statement. If Noah was not real, or if everyone in the world was not killed, or if the flood was not global, then Jesus’ comments make no sense. As He might say to a modern audience debating Noah and the extent of the flood, “Have you not read what I said about them?”

Genesis According to Luke
Luke is probably the best historian of the New Testament. I say this for two reasons. First, he did not personally witness most of the events he wrote about, but instead “having followed all things closely for some time past” decided “to write an orderly account” concerning the life of Jesus and the early church. This means he had to interview people and read things written by others to “compile a narrative of the things that have been accomplished among us.” (Luke 1:1-3)

Second, Luke takes great care to link the events he’s writing about to the generally-accepted calendar markers of his day. These include governmental posts and reigns of emperors. He also took time to research the family genealogical lists of Joseph and Mary’s line to show how Jesus’ physical descent was linked back in time through real people.

There is nothing more basic to understanding the links making up history than a genealogical list. Although they are often skipped over by modern readers, in the first century they would have been of primary importance. This is why they start both Matthew’s and Luke’s gospels; they are intentionally different, too, since one is royal and the other physical – both important lineages for Jesus being the Christ.

In the third chapter of his gospel, Luke finishes his account of Jesus’ baptism by quoting the words of God from heaven: “You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased.” This statement from God provides us Jesus’ direct divine lineage. But knowing that Jesus was both God and man, Luke proceeds to show how he is linked back to Adam, the first son of God.

And so Luke plows through the 70-odd men who are physically related to Jesus, going back through David, Abraham, Noah, and ending with “Adam, the son of God.” This is basically a genealogical timeline of the world from the beginning of creation to Jesus. Luke clearly sees all these names as real men who conceived sons with their wives (the possibility of Levirate marriage naturally included). In one sense, genealogy just lists the chain links of history.

Furthermore, Luke goes on in his next section to show us that both Jesus and Adam hold similar roles in the history of the world. Luke assumes his readers know about the history recorded in Genesis 3 (a temptation of the “first man” by Satan in a bountiful garden), so that they will understand what happened to Jesus (a temptation of the “last man” by Satan in a wilderness, the barren result of God’s curse on His creation).

The point here is that Luke is intimately aware of the history recorded in Genesis. According to Luke, all the people he lists out in his genealogy are real people who lived at real times whose actions had real consequences. This is, after all, what good historians do: they show how different events that happen in history are related.

In fact, the relationship between Jesus and Adam is the most important relationship in all of history. It is central to the gospel and what Jesus came to do. We can therefore do no better than to end with the apostle Paul’s explanation of what these men did that has the utmost impact on our lives today:

“For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. And the free gift is not like the result of that one man’s sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. For if, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous.” (Romans 5:15-18)

This fails as an appeal to authority fallacy.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I like the fairy tale about the universe magically creating itself out of nothing. That one is a hoot.

Yeah, that is a pretty absurd trait of the Bible creation myth. God speaks and *poof*, something from nothing. Maybe a child would believe it....but most people grow out of that nonsense.

And the flood myth in the bible isn’t even original; indeed, flood myths are universal and predate the bible myth, such as the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh, which is nearly 5,000 years old.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I like the fairy tale about the universe magically creating itself out of nothing. That one is a hoot.

Yeah, that is a pretty absurd trait of the Bible creation myth. God speaks and *poof*, something from nothing. Maybe a child would believe it....but most people grow out of that nonsense.

And the flood myth in the bible isn’t even original; indeed, flood myths are universal and predate the bible myth, such as the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh, which is nearly 5,000 years old.

It's not as if these ignorant goat herders were getting airmail from eastern Asia or South America. Any global flood myth from the bronze age can be summarily and immediately dismissed on these grounds alone.

 

[Flash]

I like the fairy tale about the universe magically creating itself out of nothing. That one is a hoot.

Yeah, that is a pretty absurd trait of the Bible creation myth. God speaks and *poof*, something from nothing. Maybe a child would believe it....but most people grow out of that nonsense.

And the flood myth in the bible isn’t even original; indeed, flood myths are universal and predate the bible myth, such as the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh, which is nearly 5,000 years old.

It's not as if these ignorant goat herders were getting airmail from eastern Asia or South America. Any global flood myth from the bronze age can be summarily and immediately dismissed on these grounds alone.

The Book of Genesis is neither a science or history book

It describes the relationship between Man and God.

The story of Noah is about God understanding that because of free will He cannot destroy humans for being evil all the time. If He did then every generation of humans would be destroyed.

The story of Noah is that because of free will humans did ungodly and evil things. God destroyed all that evil leaving only a righteous man and his family and the animals of the earth. However, He promised the descendants of Noah that He wouldn't do that again. We were all going to have to suffer the consequences of the evil that we do. No more tearing down and starting all over again.

Humans having free will was and is a conundrum for God. It produces evil. We see Him dealing with it in several stories in Genesis.

The story of Noah and the flood is God understanding as long as free will exist there will be evil and God isn't going to fix it simply by destroying all evil.

Pretty simple really.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“Our CREATED solar system ---- what you are not being told”

Nonsense.

No one is ‘not’ being told anything.

No ‘truth’ is being ‘withheld.’

And the solar system was not ‘created.’

Individuals are at liberty to believe whatever religious myths, lies, and dogma they so desire; and are at liberty to express their belief in those religious myths, lies, and dogma.

But they are not at liberty to attempt to propagate those ridiculous religious myths, lies, and dogma in public schools as part of a sanctioned government curriculum – and thankfully so.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This hot garbage thread should be moved immediately to the Conspiracy Theory section. The fact that it has not is just another example of magical hooha and conspiracy theories getting a pass, if they are cloaked in the veneer of a "major religion".

If I started a thread in this section stating that my talking houseplants have informed me that the global scientific community is engaged in a vast conspiracy to lie about the theory of gravity, it would be moved immediately.

True.

And this thread certainly doesn’t belong in the Science and Technology forum.

 

[LittleNipper]

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #1042: Spike Psarris

Everyone who doesn't embrace the National Academic Religion of EVOLUTION is labeled a loon in order to discredit those which may just stem the tide of control away from atheism and return America back to One Nation under GOD. IN GOD WE TRUST May actually mean something once again if an honest balance is regained.

Evolution is a FACT
God is a THEORY

Micro shifting is fact. Macro change is a fairy tail. GOD is real to those that call on HIS name.

Evolution is a FACT

There are no complex lifeforms mixed in with simple creatures when looking at rock strata

God is just a theory about how we got here. A theory unsupported by any evidence

There are no simple creatures. Everything has complexity. GOD is as real as gravity and the wind. As for the evolutionary fossil record theory: Fossils and Rock Strata

 

[rightwinger]

Encyclopedia of American Loons: #1042: Spike Psarris

Everyone who doesn't embrace the National Academic Religion of EVOLUTION is labeled a loon in order to discredit those which may just stem the tide of control away from atheism and return America back to One Nation under GOD. IN GOD WE TRUST May actually mean something once again if an honest balance is regained.

Evolution is a FACT
God is a THEORY

Micro shifting is fact. Macro change is a fairy tail. GOD is real to those that call on HIS name.

Evolution is a FACT

There are no complex lifeforms mixed in with simple creatures when looking at rock strata

God is just a theory about how we got here. A theory unsupported by any evidence

There are no simple creatures. Everything has complexity. GOD is as real as gravity and the wind. As for the evolutionary fossil record theory: Fossils and Rock Strata

Yes there are simple creatures...mollusks, clams , troglodytes
Their fossilized remains are not found with dinosaurs and human remains
It shows....EVOLUTION

God is a simplistic explanation for how life became

Oh....I actually read your link
It was silly

 

[LittleNipper]

Everyone who doesn't embrace the National Academic Religion of EVOLUTION is labeled a loon in order to discredit those which may just stem the tide of control away from atheism and return America back to One Nation under GOD. IN GOD WE TRUST May actually mean something once again if an honest balance is regained.

Evolution is a FACT
God is a THEORY

Micro shifting is fact. Macro change is a fairy tail. GOD is real to those that call on HIS name.

Evolution is a FACT

There are no complex lifeforms mixed in with simple creatures when looking at rock strata

God is just a theory about how we got here. A theory unsupported by any evidence

There are no simple creatures. Everything has complexity. GOD is as real as gravity and the wind. As for the evolutionary fossil record theory: Fossils and Rock Strata

Yes there are simple creatures...mollusks, clams , troglodytes
Their fossilized remains are not found with dinosaurs and human remains
It shows....EVOLUTION

God is a simplistic explanation for how life became

Oh....I actually read your link
It was silly

Mollusks, clams, and troglodytes are NOT simple creatures . They also happen to be aquatic, which means that they didn't live with land animals and there is no reason that they would be found with land animals. There are several very good reasons for this. The FLOOD would have turned most marshy areas to muddy swamps as the rains continued. This would likely kill aquatic creatures in such areas first, as animals and humanity moved to higher ground. The dinosaurs would have died early because they could only venture so high. And humans and birds would have died last as they could either fly of venture ever upward -- until they ran out of places to go. Then again aquatic creatures would have been stranded and covered in muck as the water retreated into the ocean basins GOD had created, as the mountains were pushed upward. It all makes sense to me. I don't know why you cannot at least see things other than what evolutionist spout . They don't know everything --- they were not there and they don't accept divine revelation. But they do believe each other! And they love to hear themselves talk... Sorry, I'm not being very charitable ---- but then, when have evolutionists..?