Opinion: Why Arizona is getting so much attention

[mudwhistle]

There was a story in the news in our area last night about a guy (white) who was detained by police after being questioned as to why he was driving through a part of town that is a predominately black neighborhood. So much so that it caught the attention of 2 officers driving through the area. They pulled him over and asked for his ID and when he couldn't provide a current form of ID, was asked to submit to a vehicle search. It was at this time that the officer discovered a large quantity of drugs in the vehicle and after the arrest was made, it was also determined that this clean cut, mid 20's white guy was also a suspect in a double murder that took place 3 weeks ago.

So, according to the policeman's account, if this guy had not been in the area he was in, he wouldn't have drawn so much attention to himself and they might not have caught him that easily. So is it racial profiling? Or just good cop work? No matter what, look what it did...it got another criminal off the streetsl

No probable cause? Yes, that's racial profiling.

The Arizona law makes it probable for local cops to stop any Latino and ask for papers without probable cause. Just like other repressive regimes have tried through history with "Pass Laws", this Arizona law is nothing more than Jim Crow for the Brown rather than the Black.

Arizona just passed a law that allows their law enforcement officers to apply laws that are already in effect at the federal level but are not being enforced by the powers that be.

They got tired of waiting for the Feds to do their GD jobs.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Too funny. Here is an opportunity for immigration reform and the hysterical libs cannot even see that. They might actually be surprised at some common ground, if only they could calm their hysterics.

Never happen.. that's what libs do... soil themselves over EVERYTHING.

 

[keee keee]

There was a story in the news in our area last night about a guy (white) who was detained by police after being questioned as to why he was driving through a part of town that is a predominately black neighborhood. So much so that it caught the attention of 2 officers driving through the area. They pulled him over and asked for his ID and when he couldn't provide a current form of ID, was asked to submit to a vehicle search. It was at this time that the officer discovered a large quantity of drugs in the vehicle and after the arrest was made, it was also determined that this clean cut, mid 20's white guy was also a suspect in a double murder that took place 3 weeks ago.

So, according to the policeman's account, if this guy had not been in the area he was in, he wouldn't have drawn so much attention to himself and they might not have caught him that easily. So is it racial profiling? Or just good cop work? No matter what, look what it did...it got another criminal off the streetsl

this probally was a high drug traffic area and the guy was pulled over for suspicion for having drugs or selling drugs. there is probable cause.
I don't know what the big deal is we all legal citizens are constantly being asked for ID. you can't buy a airline ticket. cigs, beer, ect also legal aliens are required to carry ids at all times. what makes these law breakers special? why are they being given special treatment? the only special treatment they should get is an escort out of the country or to a jail cell for breaking our laws. start treating these criminals like they should be treated like criminals and they would stop coming here illegally. all people are welcome here if they follow the rules and do it legally!!! What really pisses me off is we are not asked for Identification to vote. this is the most import thing a citizen can do it effect all of our lives and this is sacred and should only be given to AMERICAN CITIZENS. This is what this is all about allowing the illegal vote!!! the dems don't give a shit about the American citizen it is all about letting them get illegal votes!!!!! these people are here illegally they are not citizens they do not get constitutional rights these are only given to citizens!!!!!

 

[Lonestar_logic]

The Arizona law makes it probable for local cops to stop any Latino and ask for papers without probable cause. Just like other repressive regimes have tried through history with "Pass Laws", this Arizona law is nothing more than Jim Crow for the Brown rather than the Black.

Total BULLSHIT. I know this is what Obama says, but, once again... he's LYING.

Try reading the bill.

I can guarantee Obama hasn't read the bill. He's doing the same thing he's done with the Cambridge police, speaking without knowing all the facts. I doubt anyone that's opposed to this bill has actually read it. Why don't these idiots get it through there ideological brain that this is an existing federal law, Arizona just seeks to enforce it.

 

[Xenophon]

Must be profiling!

Sounds racist to me.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjXO-jP7rIE]YouTube - : The Hatta : Foamy The Squirrel[/ame]

Now THIS is racist

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya2qguoEKY4]YouTube - The Boondocks - Best Uncle Ruckus moment[/ame]

 

[mudwhistle]

No probable cause? Yes, that's racial profiling.

The Arizona law makes it probable for local cops to stop any Latino and ask for papers without probable cause. Just like other repressive regimes have tried through history with "Pass Laws", this Arizona law is nothing more than Jim Crow for the Brown rather than the Black.

That's a stone lie.

The AZ law is no more "profiling" than the federal law which isn't being enforced.

Gotta go somewhere else than La Raza for your yapping points, man.

Do you suppose there will be a lot of blond, blue-eyed folks stopped and asked for papers? What about illegal immigrants from Scandinavia?

Oh. I guess not. The local constabulary will not be so diligent. Just ask Sheriff Bull Connors in Alabama how equally laws were enforced there.

Conservatives never learn from their previous mistakes.

Nether do the Libs.

I have a solution....ask for citizenship docs from everyone.....see how easy that was.

 

[peach174]

Has anyone noticed that both parties are not going to address this?
illegals are always wanted. They come in here and get jobs ,they don't have to pay taxes although some do, most get all kinds of free goodies , health care ( AHCCCS), food stamps, DES services, schooling. Then they give them amnesity they then get to vote and that helps the dems mosly because of all the freebies the got as illegals, and then even more goodies once they become legal through amnisty, and both parties benifit from it.
It has become a big problem when DES & AHCCCS eats up more than half of the states budget.

 

[mudwhistle]

The Arizona law makes it probable for local cops to stop any Latino and ask for papers without probable cause. Just like other repressive regimes have tried through history with "Pass Laws", this Arizona law is nothing more than Jim Crow for the Brown rather than the Black.

Total BULLSHIT. I know this is what Obama says, but, once again... he's LYING.

Try reading the bill.

I can guarantee Obama hasn't read the bill. He's doing the same thing he's done with the Cambridge police, speaking without knowing all the facts. I doubt anyone that's opposed to this bill has actually read it. Why don't these idiots get it through there ideological brain that this is an existing federal law, Arizona just seeks to enforce it.

That's because Obsama is a bigot. That's why he jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts.....then he needs a beer summit to clean up the mess he made.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Total BULLSHIT. I know this is what Obama says, but, once again... he's LYING.

Try reading the bill.

I can guarantee Obama hasn't read the bill. He's doing the same thing he's done with the Cambridge police, speaking without knowing all the facts. I doubt anyone that's opposed to this bill has actually read it. Why don't these idiots get it through there ideological brain that this is an existing federal law, Arizona just seeks to enforce it.

That's because Obsama is a bigot. That's why he jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts.....then he needs a beer summit to clean up the mess he made.

who doesn't need a beer summit?

i am off to the beergarden.

prost.

 

[topspin]

That's a stone lie.

The AZ law is no more "profiling" than the federal law which isn't being enforced.

Gotta go somewhere else than La Raza for your yapping points, man.

Do you suppose there will be a lot of blond, blue-eyed folks stopped and asked for papers? What about illegal immigrants from Scandinavia?

Oh. I guess not. The local constabulary will not be so diligent. Just ask Sheriff Bull Connors in Alabama how equally laws were enforced there.

Conservatives never learn from their previous mistakes.

Nether do the Libs.

I have a solution....ask for citizenship docs from everyone.....see how easy that was.

everybody else isn't as cool with ghestapo as you are

 

[Nosmo King]

There was a story in the news in our area last night about a guy (white) who was detained by police after being questioned as to why he was driving through a part of town that is a predominately black neighborhood. So much so that it caught the attention of 2 officers driving through the area. They pulled him over and asked for his ID and when he couldn't provide a current form of ID, was asked to submit to a vehicle search. It was at this time that the officer discovered a large quantity of drugs in the vehicle and after the arrest was made, it was also determined that this clean cut, mid 20's white guy was also a suspect in a double murder that took place 3 weeks ago.

So, according to the policeman's account, if this guy had not been in the area he was in, he wouldn't have drawn so much attention to himself and they might not have caught him that easily. So is it racial profiling? Or just good cop work? No matter what, look what it did...it got another criminal off the streetsl

No probable cause? Yes, that's racial profiling.

The Arizona law makes it probable for local cops to stop any Latino and ask for papers without probable cause. Just like other repressive regimes have tried through history with "Pass Laws", this Arizona law is nothing more than Jim Crow for the Brown rather than the Black.

Arizona just passed a law that allows their law enforcement officers to apply laws that are already in effect at the federal level but are not being enforced by the powers that be.

They got tired of waiting for the Feds to do their GD jobs.

Everyone knows what the problems are. Giving local Arizona cops jurisdiction in federal matters is not the solution.

Why aren't the employers of illegals frog marched at the county court house? Why does the fear of harassment fall to the Latinos, illegal or not?

I guess Conservatives care much more for the means of production and those who control it than the Latino looking folks in the southwest.

There are American citizens who look suspiciously like Mexicans. They will be hassled for ID too... for the crime of being Brown.

 

[Oddball]

Everyone knows what the problems are. Giving local Arizona cops jurisdiction in federal matters is not the solution.

It is when the feds refuse to do their jobs.

And nobody "gave" them the jurisdiction, they rightfully and lawfully asserted it it.

There are American citizens who look suspiciously like Mexicans. They will be hassled for ID too... for the crime of being Brown.

Translation: Cops are racists.

 

[MaggieMae]

Too funny. Here is an opportunity for immigration reform and the hysterical libs cannot even see that. They might actually be surprised at some common ground, if only they could calm their hysterics.

Nobody's hysterical, Si.

 

[MaggieMae]

The libs really have their panties in a twist over Arizona. It's amazing to watch.

The facts of the matter are that the federal government has a Constitutional duty to protect our borders. In an attempt to do that, the federal government has made immigration laws. The fairness of these laws is certainly debatable, however, these are the laws that the federal government has passed. Immigration is a federal jurisdiction.

A border state, or any state for that matter, can enforce laws when the federal government fails to do so. Arizona has done just that and it highlights the incompetence of the federal government.

Anything that highlights this incompetence is to be met with hysterics as the Adored one cannot be criticized. Nevermind that this has nothing to do with the Dear Leader at the moment, but reasoning with the emotionally hysterical is rarely possible.

The Dems see this as a way to reverse their incredibly unpopular agenda using the old standby, claiming everyone who isn't with them 'racist.'

Notice how often this comes up.

oppose stimulous=racist

oppose cap &trade=racist

oppose Barrycare=racist

oppose ILLEAGAL immigration=racist

You get the feeling they say 'racist' because they can't really think of anything else, besides perhaps 'facist' or 'nazi', those other favorite staples of this crowd.

Your selection of threads hardly says it all. I found very few comments that injected racism in any of those topics.

 

[Samson]

Too funny. Here is an opportunity for immigration reform and the hysterical libs cannot even see that. They might actually be surprised at some common ground, if only they could calm their hysterics.

Nobody's hysterical, Si.

REALLY?

Arizona Immigration Law Sparks National Uproar

How is a National "Uproar" different than National "Hysteria?"

 

[MaggieMae]

Too funny. Here is an opportunity for immigration reform and the hysterical libs cannot even see that. They might actually be surprised at some common ground, if only they could calm their hysterics.

No, No, NO!.. The fat cat capitalists on wall street must be punished first!

Mother Earth must be saved after that...

Only then would they even consider immigration...

I would say that the subject is "considered" almost non-stop. The problem, as you well know, is crafting immigration reform so that NO "amnesty" provisions exist (which the Republicans want), so trying to come up with a plan that deals with the existing illegal population is what keeps getting it pushed to the back burner. Stopping the constant flow should be the easy part. No Republican since Reagan has succeeded either, and of course he "succeeded" only by giving amnesty. So round and round we go.

 

[Xenophon]

The libs really have their panties in a twist over Arizona. It's amazing to watch.

The facts of the matter are that the federal government has a Constitutional duty to protect our borders. In an attempt to do that, the federal government has made immigration laws. The fairness of these laws is certainly debatable, however, these are the laws that the federal government has passed. Immigration is a federal jurisdiction.

A border state, or any state for that matter, can enforce laws when the federal government fails to do so. Arizona has done just that and it highlights the incompetence of the federal government.

Anything that highlights this incompetence is to be met with hysterics as the Adored one cannot be criticized. Nevermind that this has nothing to do with the Dear Leader at the moment, but reasoning with the emotionally hysterical is rarely possible.

The Dems see this as a way to reverse their incredibly unpopular agenda using the old standby, claiming everyone who isn't with them 'racist.'

Notice how often this comes up.

oppose stimulous=racist

oppose cap &trade=racist

oppose Barrycare=racist

oppose ILLEAGAL immigration=racist

You get the feeling they say 'racist' because they can't really think of anything else, besides perhaps 'facist' or 'nazi', those other favorite staples of this crowd.

Your selection of threads hardly says it all. I found very few comments that injected racism in any of those topics.

Considering your normal state of excuse making for Obama that is hardly surprising.

 

[Samson]

Too funny. Here is an opportunity for immigration reform and the hysterical libs cannot even see that. They might actually be surprised at some common ground, if only they could calm their hysterics.

No, No, NO!.. The fat cat capitalists on wall street must be punished first!

Mother Earth must be saved after that...

Only then would they even consider immigration...

I would say that the subject is "considered" almost non-stop. The problem, as you well know, is crafting immigration reform so that NO "amnesty" provisions exist (which the Republicans want).

Democrats want an Amnesty Provision?

I'm astonished, since they've didn't mention that in their 2008 platform, and Obama didn't say that yesterday when he essentially repeated the Democratic Platform on Immigration almost verbatum.

 

[MaggieMae]

There was a story in the news in our area last night about a guy (white) who was detained by police after being questioned as to why he was driving through a part of town that is a predominately black neighborhood. So much so that it caught the attention of 2 officers driving through the area. They pulled him over and asked for his ID and when he couldn't provide a current form of ID, was asked to submit to a vehicle search. It was at this time that the officer discovered a large quantity of drugs in the vehicle and after the arrest was made, it was also determined that this clean cut, mid 20's white guy was also a suspect in a double murder that took place 3 weeks ago.

So, according to the policeman's account, if this guy had not been in the area he was in, he wouldn't have drawn so much attention to himself and they might not have caught him that easily. So is it racial profiling? Or just good cop work? No matter what, look what it did...it got another criminal off the streetsl

this probally was a high drug traffic area and the guy was pulled over for suspicion for having drugs or selling drugs. there is probable cause.
I don't know what the big deal is we all legal citizens are constantly being asked for ID. you can't buy a airline ticket. cigs, beer, ect also legal aliens are required to carry ids at all times. what makes these law breakers special? why are they being given special treatment? the only special treatment they should get is an escort out of the country or to a jail cell for breaking our laws. start treating these criminals like they should be treated like criminals and they would stop coming here illegally. all people are welcome here if they follow the rules and do it legally!!! What really pisses me off is we are not asked for Identification to vote. this is the most import thing a citizen can do it effect all of our lives and this is sacred and should only be given to AMERICAN CITIZENS. This is what this is all about allowing the illegal vote!!! the dems don't give a shit about the American citizen it is all about letting them get illegal votes!!!!! these people are here illegally they are not citizens they do not get constitutional rights these are only given to citizens!!!!!

If that's the case, then someone in your district is obviously breaking the law. Before you vote, your name should be checked off a grand list which is added AFTER you have proven citizenship. If your name happens not to be on that list, except when the requirement is waived as is what happened in some states like Ohio during the 2004 election, the you will NOT be allowed to vote. Period.

 

[MaggieMae]

Sounds racist to me.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjXO-jP7rIE]YouTube - : The Hatta : Foamy The Squirrel[/ame]

Now THIS is racist

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya2qguoEKY4]YouTube - The Boondocks - Best Uncle Ruckus moment[/ame]

So lookie who just can't help himself from injecting racism every chance he gets.