OMG -- Jews Aren't Responsible?

[DiveCon]

SLOW??? You don't know the half of it peckerwood. After sixty years of cross country runnin, mnt climbing(its the trip back down that fucks up you joints), pole vaultin, fightin the karate, kayaking(stuck one real bad on the beach surfing on the coast of WA)

Ya I've slowed down a bit. Some days its a fuckin challenge to get up in the morning.

What with the scare of the newest internet threats I can't be too carefull.
On the other hand I act the idiot at times for comedic effect.

none of that has anything to do with your BRAIN and its ability to recognize things

I could while away the hours, conferrin' with the flowers
Consultin' with the rain.
And my head I'd be scratchin' while
my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain.
I'd unravel every riddle for any individ'le,
In trouble or in pain.
With the thoughts you'll be thinkin'
you could be another Lincoln
If you only had a brain.
Oh, I could tell you why The ocean's near the shore.
I could think of things I never thunk before.
And then I'd sit, and think some more.
I would not be just a nothin' my head all full of stuffin'
My heart all full of pain.
I would dance and be merry, life would be a ding-a-derry,
If I only had a brain.

ok props for that, gotta appreciate self deprecating humor

 

[GHook93]

So you wanna tell me why tens of thousands of Arabs immigrated into Palestine illegally during the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s?

Dude, why do you keep repeating this stupid lie over and over again? Does anybody believe it? Where the hell did you come across this in the first place?

So you will believe 9/11 truther stories, but you will deny a fact that many of the Palestinians immigrated to Palestine/Israel during the British Mandate Periods, when ARAB/MUSLIM immigration was unrestricted in each and every way. Fact: Palestine's/Israel's lowest populations were during the Ottoman/Turkish rule, which was right before the British Mandates.

The Smoking Gun: Arab Immigration into Palestine, 1922-1931 - Middle East Quarterly

 

[Kalam]

So you wanna tell me why tens of thousands of Arabs immigrated into Palestine illegally during the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s?

Dude, why do you keep repeating this stupid lie over and over again? Does anybody believe it? Where the hell did you come across this in the first place?

So you will believe 9/11 truther stories, but you will deny a fact that many of the Palestinians immigrated to Palestine/Israel during the British Mandate Periods, when ARAB/MUSLIM immigration was unrestricted in each and every way.

That can't be established as a fact unless we have access to immigration records, which we don't, because I'm fairly certain that none exist from the periods in question.

Fact: Palestine's/Israel's lowest populations were during the Ottoman/Turkish rule, which was right before the British Mandates.

Lowest populations since when?

The Smoking Gun: Arab Immigration into Palestine, 1922-1931 - Middle East Quarterly

The Middle East Quarterly is run by Daniel Pipes, the genius who blamed the Oklahoma City bombing on Muslims before enough evidence was gathered to determine who the actual culprit was. It's openly pro-Israel. I wouldn't trust anything from there or any of Pipes' other mouthpieces.

 

[Kalam]

REMEMBER THIS FAMOUS ARTICLE, OFTEN MISTAKENLY ATTRIBUTED TO DENNIS MILLER? IT'S STILL A CLASSIC.

It's still lame, propagandistic rancor based on misrepresentations of reality, historical revisionism, platitudinous analogies, and prejudiced assertions of Muslim inferiority.

 

[GHook93]

Dude, why do you keep repeating this stupid lie over and over again? Does anybody believe it? Where the hell did you come across this in the first place?

So you will believe 9/11 truther stories, but you will deny a fact that many of the Palestinians immigrated to Palestine/Israel during the British Mandate Periods, when ARAB/MUSLIM immigration was unrestricted in each and every way.

That can't be established as a fact unless we have access to immigration records, which we don't, because I'm fairly certain that none exist from the periods in question.

Fact: Palestine's/Israel's lowest populations were during the Ottoman/Turkish rule, which was right before the British Mandates.

Lowest populations since when?

The Smoking Gun: Arab Immigration into Palestine, 1922-1931 - Middle East Quarterly

The Middle East Quarterly is run by Daniel Pipes, the genius who blamed the Oklahoma City bombing on Muslims before enough evidence was gathered to determine who the actual culprit was. It's openly pro-Israel. I wouldn't trust anything from there or any of Pipes' other mouthpieces.

Kalam,

The attached website gives a GREAT and HONEST assessment and study of the populations during the Ottoman Era and British Mandate Era.

Year Arabs % Jews % Total
1870 367,224 98 7,000 2 375,000
1893 469,000 98 10,000 2 497,000
1912 525,000 93 40,000 6 565,000
1920 542,000 90 61,000 10 603,000
1925 598,000 83 120,000 17 719,000
1930 763,000 82 165,000 18 928,000
1935 886,000 71 355,000 29 1,241,000
1940 1,014,000 69 463,000 31 1,478,000
1946 1,237,000 65 608,000 35 1,845,000

MidEast Web - Population of Palestine

 

[Epsilon Delta]

Year Arabs % Jews % Total
1870 367,224 98 7,000 2 375,000
1893 469,000 98 10,000 2 497,000
1912 525,000 93 40,000 6 565,000
1920 542,000 90 61,000 10 603,000
1925 598,000 83 120,000 17 719,000
1930 763,000 82 165,000 18 928,000
1935 886,000 71 355,000 29 1,241,000
1940 1,014,000 69 463,000 31 1,478,000
1946 1,237,000 65 608,000 35 1,845,000

MidEast Web - Population of Palestine

Oh my god...... This doesn't make any sense. You actually just posted exactly the right statistics. Those ARE the commonly accepted statistics of the population of the region. In 50 years, the Jewish population (as percentage of total) increased 5 fold. It was three times that proportion only 15 years later. I'm just confused man. Which side were you on again? In 76 years of data there the population went from 98% Arab to 65%, and you guys are talking about the "great invasion of Arabs into Israel"??? Wow, this is almost surreal.

Well, props on that. I've been meaning to post that for a while now.

*dumbfounded*

 

[Kalam]

Kalam,

The attached website gives a GREAT and HONEST assessment and study of the populations during the Ottoman Era and British Mandate Era.

Year Arabs % Jews % Total
1870 367,224 98 7,000 2 375,000
1893 469,000 98 10,000 2 497,000
1912 525,000 93 40,000 6 565,000
1920 542,000 90 61,000 10 603,000
1925 598,000 83 120,000 17 719,000
1930 763,000 82 165,000 18 928,000
1935 886,000 71 355,000 29 1,241,000
1940 1,014,000 69 463,000 31 1,478,000
1946 1,237,000 65 608,000 35 1,845,000

MidEast Web - Population of Palestine

The numbers may be honest.

Glancing at it cursorily, the Arab population's rate of growth seems pretty normal. If Arabs immigrated to Palestine in such large numbers, why did their population size triple while the Jewish population ended up being nearly ninety times larger than it was to begin with?

 

[GHook93]

I never argued that the Arabs weren't the majority in the 1800s other during the Ottoman years, but you see a huge increase in the population during British Mandates in just 20 yrs (1925-1946) the Arab population more than doubled, an increase of 639,000 increase! That is the the results of birth, but migration! Take the 50 yr period from 1870 to 1920 there was only a 270,776 population increase.

So nice try bigot!

Year Arabs % Jews % Total
1870 367,224 98 7,000 2 375,000
1893 469,000 98 10,000 2 497,000
1912 525,000 93 40,000 6 565,000
1920 542,000 90 61,000 10 603,000
1925 598,000 83 120,000 17 719,000
1930 763,000 82 165,000 18 928,000
1935 886,000 71 355,000 29 1,241,000
1940 1,014,000 69 463,000 31 1,478,000
1946 1,237,000 65 608,000 35 1,845,000

MidEast Web - Population of Palestine

Oh my god...... This doesn't make any sense. You actually just posted exactly the right statistics. Those ARE the commonly accepted statistics of the population of the region. In 50 years, the Jewish population (as percentage of total) increased 5 fold. It was three times that proportion only 15 years later. I'm just confused man. Which side were you on again? In 76 years of data there the population went from 98% Arab to 65%, and you guys are talking about the "great invasion of Arabs into Israel"??? Wow, this is almost surreal.

Well, props on that. I've been meaning to post that for a while now.

*dumbfounded*

 

[Epsilon Delta]

I never argued that the Arabs weren't the majority in the 1800s other during the Ottoman years, but you see a huge increase in the population during British Mandates in just 20 yrs (1925-1946) the Arab population more than doubled, an increase of 639,000 increase! That is the the results of birth, but migration! Take the 50 yr period from 1870 to 1920 there was only a 270,776 population increase.

So nice bigot!

Year Arabs % Jews % Total
1870 367,224 98 7,000 2 375,000
1893 469,000 98 10,000 2 497,000
1912 525,000 93 40,000 6 565,000
1920 542,000 90 61,000 10 603,000
1925 598,000 83 120,000 17 719,000
1930 763,000 82 165,000 18 928,000
1935 886,000 71 355,000 29 1,241,000
1940 1,014,000 69 463,000 31 1,478,000
1946 1,237,000 65 608,000 35 1,845,000

MidEast Web - Population of Palestine

Oh my god...... This doesn't make any sense. You actually just posted exactly the right statistics. Those ARE the commonly accepted statistics of the population of the region. In 50 years, the Jewish population (as percentage of total) increased 5 fold. It was three times that proportion only 15 years later. I'm just confused man. Which side were you on again? In 76 years of data there the population went from 98% Arab to 65%, and you guys are talking about the "great invasion of Arabs into Israel"??? Wow, this is almost surreal.

Well, props on that. I've been meaning to post that for a while now.

*dumbfounded*

Dude... I still just don't understand what is going on here. Are we looking at the same numbers??? There's two possibilities here: 1) I'm going insane 2) You have completely lost all cognitive abilities. Let's go through this, so that you understand that you're really undermining your argument and its... well, it's sad, amigo.

Arab Population of Palestine in 1920: 542,000
Arab Population of Palestine in 1946: 1,237,000

% Increase in Arab Population From 1920 to 1946: ~228%

Jewish Population of Palestine in 1920: 61,000
Jewish Population of Palestine in 1946: 608,000

% Increase in Jewish Population from 1920 to 1946: ~997%

Oh but HERE we are, talking about huge immigration flows of Arabs into Palestine, right? I'm sorry, but how can you save face from this? What a complete.... It's just completely unbelievable what you're doing. Are you brain dead? Of course the population from 1870-1920 would've grown less in total numbers than in 1920-1946... BECAUSE THERE WERE LESS PEOPLE TO BEGIN WITH... DUH!!!. Seriously man, what a farce. This is just sad.

 

[DiveCon]

I never argued that the Arabs weren't the majority in the 1800s other during the Ottoman years, but you see a huge increase in the population during British Mandates in just 20 yrs (1925-1946) the Arab population more than doubled, an increase of 639,000 increase! That is the the results of birth, but migration! Take the 50 yr period from 1870 to 1920 there was only a 270,776 population increase.

So nice bigot!

Year Arabs % Jews % Total
1870 367,224 98 7,000 2 375,000
1893 469,000 98 10,000 2 497,000
1912 525,000 93 40,000 6 565,000
1920 542,000 90 61,000 10 603,000
1925 598,000 83 120,000 17 719,000
1930 763,000 82 165,000 18 928,000
1935 886,000 71 355,000 29 1,241,000
1940 1,014,000 69 463,000 31 1,478,000
1946 1,237,000 65 608,000 35 1,845,000

MidEast Web - Population of Palestine

Oh my god...... This doesn't make any sense. You actually just posted exactly the right statistics. Those ARE the commonly accepted statistics of the population of the region. In 50 years, the Jewish population (as percentage of total) increased 5 fold. It was three times that proportion only 15 years later. I'm just confused man. Which side were you on again? In 76 years of data there the population went from 98% Arab to 65%, and you guys are talking about the "great invasion of Arabs into Israel"??? Wow, this is almost surreal.

Well, props on that. I've been meaning to post that for a while now.

*dumbfounded*

G, that data does not support your claim
the Arab population, while increasing, did not increase at the rate of the Jewish population did
but that still doesnt mean the arabs were there before the jews
just means that under the Ottomans Jews were not able to get there as easily


but where are the Christians in the population?

 

[GHook93]

I never argued that the Arabs weren't the majority in the 1800s other during the Ottoman years, but you see a huge increase in the population during British Mandates in just 20 yrs (1925-1946) the Arab population more than doubled, an increase of 639,000 increase! That is the the results of birth, but migration! Take the 50 yr period from 1870 to 1920 there was only a 270,776 population increase.

So nice bigot!

Oh my god...... This doesn't make any sense. You actually just posted exactly the right statistics. Those ARE the commonly accepted statistics of the population of the region. In 50 years, the Jewish population (as percentage of total) increased 5 fold. It was three times that proportion only 15 years later. I'm just confused man. Which side were you on again? In 76 years of data there the population went from 98% Arab to 65%, and you guys are talking about the "great invasion of Arabs into Israel"??? Wow, this is almost surreal.

Well, props on that. I've been meaning to post that for a while now.

*dumbfounded*

G, that data does not support your claim
the Arab population, while increasing, did not increase at the rate of the Jewish population did
but that still doesnt mean the arabs were there before the jews
just means that under the Ottomans Jews were not able to get there as easily


but where are the Christians in the population?

My claim is not that the Jews where the majority during the 1800s or the Ottoman years, because that would be an outright lie and I be ignoring facts just like Shogun and Epsilon conveniently do. I also didn't claim that the Jewish population didn't increase massively during the late 1800s and early 1900s. Rather the claim was the their was an 100 fold increase of Arab immigration to Palestine/Israel during the British Mandates and that is what the data shows!

 

[Epsilon Delta]

Man... you're showing us nothing, other than there was a huge immigration of Jews into Palestine during the British Mandate, which is the exact opposite of what you want us to see.

Hahaha, this is just hilarious:

Year Arabs % Jews % Total
1870 367,224 98 7,000 2 375,000

TWO PER-CENT... to NINETY-EIGHT PERCENT. Ahahahaha, Where is DavidS? He's gotta see this.

 

[jillian]

Man... you're showing us nothing, other than there was a huge immigration of Jews into Palestine during the British Mandate, which is the exact opposite of what you want us to see.

Hahaha, this is just hilarious:

Year Arabs % Jews % Total
1870 367,224 98 7,000 2 375,000

TWO PER-CENT... to NINETY-EIGHT PERCENT. Ahahahaha, Where is DavidS? He's gotta see this.

you mean when boats were being turned away from the U.S. and they were being exterminated in Europe?

Oh no... THE HORROR!!!

 

[Agnapostate]

Dude, why do you keep repeating this stupid lie over and over again? Does anybody believe it? Where the hell did you come across this in the first place?

Methinks there's at least one person left in existence unaware of how massively incorrect Joan Peters was.

 

[GHook93]

Man... you're showing us nothing, other than there was a huge immigration of Jews into Palestine during the British Mandate, which is the exact opposite of what you want us to see.

Hahaha, this is just hilarious:

Year Arabs % Jews % Total
1870 367,224 98 7,000 2 375,000

TWO PER-CENT... to NINETY-EIGHT PERCENT. Ahahahaha, Where is DavidS? He's gotta see this.

you mean when boats were being turned away from the U.S. and they were being exterminated in Europe?

Oh no... THE HORROR!!!

Epsilon has denied the Holocaust, so that argument won't work on him!

 

[Epsilon Delta]

Man... you're showing us nothing, other than there was a huge immigration of Jews into Palestine during the British Mandate, which is the exact opposite of what you want us to see.

Hahaha, this is just hilarious:



TWO PER-CENT... to NINETY-EIGHT PERCENT. Ahahahaha, Where is DavidS? He's gotta see this.

you mean when boats were being turned away from the U.S. and they were being exterminated in Europe?

Oh no... THE HORROR!!!

Epsilon has denied the Holocaust, so that argument won't work on him!

SHIT-HEAD, LIER, TROLL.

You make me disgusted you sick cocksucker.

QUOTE ME, FUCKWAD. QUOTE ME DENYING THE HOLOCAUST. DO IT IF YOU'RE WORTH ANYTHING, ****.

You can't because you are a FUCKING LIAR. Plain and simple, a dumbfucking liar. Why do you lie about things you know NOTHING about, dumbfucker?

My grandfather was born a Pole. His entire family was murdered by the Nazi monsters. He was saved by the fact he was studying in Paris, and when his legion got pummeled by the German Army he survived in a Swiss army camp. When he returned home, there was nothing. Not a brick was left standing- everybody was dead. And then this dumbfuck shithead comes in here and spews this garbage?

Fuck you, Gook. Fuck you. Go fuck yourself. You know nothing.

 

[DiveCon]

leave it to a liberal to call someone a "cocksucker" as an insult

 

[Epsilon Delta]

leave it to a liberal to call someone a "cocksucker" as an insult

= (

What's wrong with "cocksucker"???

[And I'm not a 'liberal', DiveCon, I'm a far-left extremist- I thought you knew that!]

 

[DiveCon]

leave it to a liberal to call someone a "cocksucker" as an insult

= (

What's wrong with "cocksucker"???

[And I'm not a 'liberal', DiveCon, I'm a far-left extremist- I thought you knew that!]

well, you just used it as an insult, so you MUST think there is something wrong with it

 

[Epsilon Delta]

leave it to a liberal to call someone a "cocksucker" as an insult

= (

What's wrong with "cocksucker"???

[And I'm not a 'liberal', DiveCon, I'm a far-left extremist- I thought you knew that!]

well, you just used it as an insult, so you MUST think there is something wrong with it

I must say, DiveCon, that was actually kinda clever! Gotta admit I hadn't thought of that before.