OHIO really, really wants to host the 2016 RNC

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"Ohio: the Heart of it all"



For the first time in history, Ohio's largest three cities are all applying for and are still heavily in the running to host the 2016 Republican National Convention.

Democratic Convention Watch:: 8 cities named as finalists for #RNC16

GOP Announces Eight Finalists to Host 2016 Convention - NBC News

The following eight cities are still in the running:

Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, Denver, Dallas, Kansas City, Las Vegas & Phoenix.


Ohio last hosted a Republican National Convention in the year 1936, in Cleveland:

1936 Republican National Convention - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And before that, in 1924, also in Cleveland:

1924 Republican National Convention - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


And before that, in 1876, in Cincinnatti:

1876 Republican National Convention - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


So, if any of the three Ohio cities is picked for the 2016 RNC, this would be the first time in 80 years that a Republican national convention has been held in Ohio.


The Democratic Party has held two Conventions in Ohio, in Cincinnatti, in 1880:

1880 Democratic National Convention - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


And in 1856, also in Cincinnatti:

1856 Democratic National Convention - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Democratic Convention Watch:: Three Ohio cities vying for Convention while Salt Lake City bows out

Ohio's Major Cities Making Big Play For 2016 Political Conventions

Were Ohio to host a DNC, it would be the first time in 136 years!


Here a complete overview of all DNC and RNC nominating conventions since 1832 and 1856, respectively.

We are looking at a slim, outside chance that BOTH conventions could be held in Ohio in 2016. It's not likely, but it's possible.
 
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well… might be interesting… particularly if their native son gets the nod
 
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The Democrats want to have theirs here too.
 
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well… might be interesting… particularly if their native son gets the nod


Portman?

Nope. No way.
 
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[MENTION=36528]cereal_killer[/MENTION] [MENTION=18645]Sarah G[/MENTION] . [MENTION=45104]WelfareQueen[/MENTION] [MENTION=20412]JakeStarkey[/MENTION] [MENTION=20321]rightwinger[/MENTION] [MENTION=42916]Derideo_Te[/MENTION] [MENTION=41527]Pogo[/MENTION] [MENTION=40845]Jeremiah[/MENTION] [MENTION=11278]editec[/MENTION] [MENTION=3135]jillian[/MENTION] [MENTION=43625]Mertex[/MENTION] [MENTION=20704]Nosmo King[/MENTION] [MENTION=39530]AceRothstein[/MENTION]

Thought this might interest you all.

The Democrats want to have theirs here too.


Yes. I didn't point it up as much in the OP, but that information is also there. If I were organzing the RNC, I would pick Columbus. And if I were organizing the DNC, I would pick Cincy, hands down.
 
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well… might be interesting… particularly if their native son gets the nod


Portman?

Nope. No way.

I am personally leaning to Rand Paul.

Although lately Republicans seems to be ever so slightly edging away from the full borne right wing cliff.
 
well… might be interesting… particularly if their native son gets the nod


Portman?

Nope. No way.

I am personally leaning to Rand Paul.

Although lately Republicans seems to be ever so slightly edging away from the full borne right wing cliff.

Well, I could summize that Chris Christie's star rose and then plummeted like a very, very heavy object. Chuckle, chuckle.

But with both Paul and Cruz battling it out for the "I am more batshit crazy than you could ever deign to be" vote, I could see a scenario where Jeb Bush or even John Huntsman (would they go for a Mormon two times in a row? Stay tuned) does a Hail-Mary right up the middle, or even Mike Huckabee with his Southern Christian Warriors. Portman (are they gonna nominated a dude whose college aged boy is gay? Hmmmm......) I am thinking that the 2016 GOP nomination debates are going to make the 2012 debates kind of boring, by comparison.... And then there is my favorite dark-horser: Haley Barbour, who is a stalwart party man, ran his state pretty darned well, keeps his mouth shut, is boring enough so as not to offend anyone.... yepp, in a strangle-hold convention, I could see Barbour coming away as the compromise nominee. Gingrich, take II (the moonbase is calling, you know)? Hmmmmm..... Rubio? Hmmmm.... Santorum (oh, I must now keep from laughing too hard....)... Hmmm...

Hmmm, maybe Paul after all.
 
For the first time in history, Ohio's largest three cities are all applying for and are still heavily in the running to host the 2016 Republican National Convention.
It would be great if Ohio hosts the 2016 RNC. It's no secret that Ohio is a battleground state, and a very important state to both the GOP and democrats. If the GOP were to have their RNC in Ohio, no doubt it would influence some voters to the benefit of the GOP.
 
[MENTION=36528]cereal_killer[/MENTION] [MENTION=18645]Sarah G[/MENTION] . [MENTION=45104]WelfareQueen[/MENTION] [MENTION=20412]JakeStarkey[/MENTION] [MENTION=20321]rightwinger[/MENTION] [MENTION=42916]Derideo_Te[/MENTION] [MENTION=41527]Pogo[/MENTION] [MENTION=40845]Jeremiah[/MENTION] [MENTION=11278]editec[/MENTION] [MENTION=3135]jillian[/MENTION] [MENTION=43625]Mertex[/MENTION] [MENTION=20704]Nosmo King[/MENTION] [MENTION=39530]AceRothstein[/MENTION]

Thought this might interest you all.

well… might be interesting… particularly if their native son gets the nod

Kasich?
 
[MENTION=36528]cereal_killer[/MENTION] [MENTION=18645]Sarah G[/MENTION] . [MENTION=45104]WelfareQueen[/MENTION] [MENTION=20412]JakeStarkey[/MENTION] [MENTION=20321]rightwinger[/MENTION] [MENTION=42916]Derideo_Te[/MENTION] [MENTION=41527]Pogo[/MENTION] [MENTION=40845]Jeremiah[/MENTION] [MENTION=11278]editec[/MENTION] [MENTION=3135]jillian[/MENTION] [MENTION=43625]Mertex[/MENTION] [MENTION=20704]Nosmo King[/MENTION] [MENTION=39530]AceRothstein[/MENTION]

Thought this might interest you all.

well… might be interesting… particularly if their native son gets the nod

Kasich?
He's running for re-election and may be in trouble. If he got the RNC to name Cleveland as a convention site, maybe his prospect would brighten.

I hope not.
 
For the first time in history, Ohio's largest three cities are all applying for and are still heavily in the running to host the 2016 Republican National Convention.
It would be great if Ohio hosts the 2016 RNC. It's no secret that Ohio is a battleground state, and a very important state to both the GOP and democrats. If the GOP were to have their RNC in Ohio, no doubt it would influence some voters to the benefit of the GOP.


Very likely. But if that would be enough to peel the state away from the Clinton column, I am not sure.

Plus, although it is a critical, sometimes THE critical battleground state, it is losing on electoral firepower:


Statistikhengst's ELECTORAL POLITICS - 2013 and beyond: Rank 26 / 26: Ohio

OH Electoral Development (electors through history): 3 (1804-1808), 8 (1812-1820), 16 (1824-1828), 21 (1832-1840), 23 (1844-1860), 21 (1864-1868), 22 (1872-1880), 23 (1884-1908), 24 (1912-1928), 26(1932-1940), 25 (1944-1960), 26 (1964-1968), 25 (1972-1980), 23 (1984-1988), 21 (1992-2000), 20 (2004-2008), 18 EV (2012- ). Ohio is on the decline phase of it's second cycle of growth and decline.


When Carter was elected in 1976, Ohio had 25 electors. It now has 18. Connecticut has 7 electors, so does Oklahoma. So you can see it as if Ohio has lost the power of a Connecticut or an Oklahoma within it's electoral firepower within the 40 years between 1972 and 2012. Carter won in 1976 with 297 EV. Without Ohio, he would still have won, with 272 EV.

In 1976, Georgia had only 12 electors, less than half of Ohio at that time. Now, Ohio has only 2 electors more than Georgia and more than likely, will lose one in 2020 and Georgia will gain one in 2020. They will likely be even-Stephen with 17 EV apiece in the 2024 GE. So, Georgia will probably appear more and more on the electoral map as a true battleground (McCain won it by only +5.20% in 2008, and Romney won it by +7.80% in 2012).

Though it is my home-state, Ohio's importance on the electoral battlefield is waning, statistically and strategically.

Obama could and would have won in both 2008 and 2012 WITHOUT Ohio. Removing all the states that Obama won with less than +5 in both elections, he would have won in 2008 with 291 EV in 2008 and with 272 EV in 2012.
 
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"Ohio: the Heart of it all"



For the first time in history, Ohio's largest three cities are all applying for and are still heavily in the running to host the 2016 Republican National Convention.

Democratic Convention Watch:: 8 cities named as finalists for #RNC16

GOP Announces Eight Finalists to Host 2016 Convention - NBC News

The following eight cities are still in the running:

Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, Denver, Dallas, Kansas City, Las Vegas & Phoenix.


Ohio last hosted a Republican National Convention in the year 1936, in Cleveland:

1936 Republican National Convention - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And before that, in 1924, also in Cleveland:

1924 Republican National Convention - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


And before that, in 1876, in Cincinnatti:

1876 Republican National Convention - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


So, if any of the three Ohio cities is picked for the 2016 RNC, this would be the first time in 80 years that a Republican national convention has been held in Ohio.


The Democratic Party has held two Conventions in Ohio, in Cincinnatti, in 1880:

1880 Democratic National Convention - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


And in 1856, also in Cincinnatti:

1856 Democratic National Convention - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Democratic Convention Watch:: Three Ohio cities vying for Convention while Salt Lake City bows out

Ohio's Major Cities Making Big Play For 2016 Political Conventions
Were Ohio to host a DNC, it would be the first time in 136 years!
Here a complete overview of all DNC and RNC nominating conventions since 1832 and 1856, respectively.

We are looking at a slim, outside chance that BOTH conventions could be held in Ohio in 2016. It's not likely, but it's possible.

I'm surprised the GOP hasn't had every one there since 1992. Florida is much more important than Ohio but psychologically winning Ohio breaks the Democrat's "firewall" in the midwest; a union state that has gone "to the dark side". Anyway, having it in Tampa didn't work for the Republicans last year but it certainly didn't hurt the GOP. Smart move. Lord knows the Party needs all of the help it can get.
 
For the first time in history, Ohio's largest three cities are all applying for and are still heavily in the running to host the 2016 Republican National Convention.
It would be great if Ohio hosts the 2016 RNC. It's no secret that Ohio is a battleground state, and a very important state to both the GOP and democrats. If the GOP were to have their RNC in Ohio, no doubt it would influence some voters to the benefit of the GOP.


Very likely. But if that would be enough to peel the state away from the Clinton column, I am not sure.

Plus, although it is a critical, sometimes THE critical battleground state, it is losing on electoral firepower:


Statistikhengst's ELECTORAL POLITICS - 2013 and beyond: Rank 26 / 26: Ohio

OH Electoral Development (electors through history): 3 (1804-1808), 8 (1812-1820), 16 (1824-1828), 21 (1832-1840), 23 (1844-1860), 21 (1864-1868), 22 (1872-1880), 23 (1884-1908), 24 (1912-1928), 26(1932-1940), 25 (1944-1960), 26 (1964-1968), 25 (1972-1980), 23 (1984-1988), 21 (1992-2000), 20 (2004-2008), 18 EV (2012- ). Ohio is on the decline phase of it's second cycle of growth and decline.


When Carter was elected in 1976, Ohio had 25 electors. It now has 18. Connecticut has 7 electors, so does Oklahoma. So you can see it as if Ohio has lost the power of a Connecticut or an Oklahoma within it's electoral firepower within the 40 years between 1972 and 2012. Carter won in 1976 with 297 EV. Without Ohio, he would still have won, with 272 EV.

In 1976, Georgia had only 12 electors, less than half of Ohio at that time. Now, Ohio has only 2 electors more than Georgia and more than likely, will lose one in 2020 and Georgia will gain one in 2020. They will likely be even-Stephen with 17 EV apiece in the 2024 GE. So, Georgia will probably appear more and more on the electoral map as a true battleground (McCain won it by only +5.20% in 2008, and Romney won it by +7.80% in 2012).

Though it is my home-state, Ohio's importance on the electoral battlefield is waning, statistically and strategically.

Obama could and would have won in both 2008 and 2012 WITHOUT Ohio. Removing all the states that Obama won with less than +5 in both elections, he would have won in 2008 with 291 EV in 2008 and with 272 EV in 2012.

Georgia is home to some very powerful people, Stat. There is one city in particular I won't mention by name - Newt Gingrich makes his presence known in - to gain favor with the people there - Newt met a republican candidate in Georgia some time ago that was running for Congress. This candidate was so confident he actually ran against a black congressman in an 80% black district he had never lived in and expected to win. Turns out he's friends with the Governor Nathan Deal and Deal supposedly told him run a couple of times and we'll get you in.

He lost but the moment that Senator Mitch Seabaugh's seat opened up ( Deal appointed him to new position as treasurer - some believe Deal arranged that for his friend ) they held a short election in which the same candidate who ran for Senate ran against a well known citizen of that town and this time he wins. It was a shock to many people and some wondered whether his tea party leader - campaign manager was behind the false story that ran in the newspapers against his opponent. There were many members of the tea party who knew the other candidate had been smeared but by the time the newspapers corrected the story it was too late. The editor of the newspaper was furious when he found out they'd been lied to about a canceled debate. The other candidate was out of town and didn't even know there was a debate. Talk about dirty politics.

No one ran against him here in Georgia in the last election. Now the word is he is going to run for President in 2016.
 
It would be great if Ohio hosts the 2016 RNC. It's no secret that Ohio is a battleground state, and a very important state to both the GOP and democrats. If the GOP were to have their RNC in Ohio, no doubt it would influence some voters to the benefit of the GOP.


Very likely. But if that would be enough to peel the state away from the Clinton column, I am not sure.

Plus, although it is a critical, sometimes THE critical battleground state, it is losing on electoral firepower:


Statistikhengst's ELECTORAL POLITICS - 2013 and beyond: Rank 26 / 26: Ohio

OH Electoral Development (electors through history): 3 (1804-1808), 8 (1812-1820), 16 (1824-1828), 21 (1832-1840), 23 (1844-1860), 21 (1864-1868), 22 (1872-1880), 23 (1884-1908), 24 (1912-1928), 26(1932-1940), 25 (1944-1960), 26 (1964-1968), 25 (1972-1980), 23 (1984-1988), 21 (1992-2000), 20 (2004-2008), 18 EV (2012- ). Ohio is on the decline phase of it's second cycle of growth and decline.


When Carter was elected in 1976, Ohio had 25 electors. It now has 18. Connecticut has 7 electors, so does Oklahoma. So you can see it as if Ohio has lost the power of a Connecticut or an Oklahoma within it's electoral firepower within the 40 years between 1972 and 2012. Carter won in 1976 with 297 EV. Without Ohio, he would still have won, with 272 EV.

In 1976, Georgia had only 12 electors, less than half of Ohio at that time. Now, Ohio has only 2 electors more than Georgia and more than likely, will lose one in 2020 and Georgia will gain one in 2020. They will likely be even-Stephen with 17 EV apiece in the 2024 GE. So, Georgia will probably appear more and more on the electoral map as a true battleground (McCain won it by only +5.20% in 2008, and Romney won it by +7.80% in 2012).

Though it is my home-state, Ohio's importance on the electoral battlefield is waning, statistically and strategically.

Obama could and would have won in both 2008 and 2012 WITHOUT Ohio. Removing all the states that Obama won with less than +5 in both elections, he would have won in 2008 with 291 EV in 2008 and with 272 EV in 2012.

Georgia is home to some very powerful people, Stat. There is one city in particular I won't mention by name - Newt Gingrich makes his presence known in - to gain favor with the people there - Newt met a republican candidate in Georgia some time ago that was running for Congress. This candidate was so confident he actually ran against a black congressman in an 80% black district he had never lived in and expected to win. Turns out he's friends with the Governor Nathan Deal and Deal supposedly told him run a couple of times and we'll get you in.

He lost but the moment that Senator Mitch Seabaugh's seat opened up ( Deal appointed him to new position as treasurer - some believe Deal arranged that for his friend ) they held a short election in which the same candidate who ran for Senate ran against a well known citizen of that town and this time he wins. It was a shock to many people and some wondered whether his tea party leader - campaign manager was behind the false story that ran in the newspapers against his opponent. There were many members of the tea party who knew the other candidate had been smeared but by the time the newspapers corrected the story it was too late. The editor of the newspaper was furious when he found out they'd been lied to about a canceled debate. The other candidate was out of town and didn't even know there was a debate. Talk about dirty politics.

No one ran against him here in Georgia in the last election. Now the word is he is going to run for President in 2016.

I think I know of whom you are referring.
 

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