Oh SNAP! Hannity & Fox News Throw Down the Gauntlet. Gagged Bakers Tell All.

Will you commit to turning in ANY judge suppressing Christians' 1st Amendment civil rights?

  • Yes, a civil right is a civil right. There are no favorites.

    Votes: 11 78.6%
  • No, LGBTs have superior civil rights to Christians.

    Votes: 3 21.4%

  • Total voters
    14
Your inability to deal with human sexuality, and human sexual orientation therefore, in a rational way is really quite disturbing. It's the product of a disturbed mind. And being the bearer of bad news, it's not the homosexuals who have a mental disturbance, it's you...

I've had more than a couple gay friends over the years. Just from the demographics you run into them now and again. I just don't believe people should be force to have leprosy or support the spread of leprosy or advocate "leprosy with adoption rights!" if they happen to have a friend who is a lepper.
Homosexuals are lepers only in the disturbed minds of people such as yourself. To the ration ones they are equals, who play for the other team on the same field.
Sure, it's totally rational to use another dude's anus as an artificial vagina, or to have yours used that way. And it's completely "lesbian" to be receptive to a butch dyke with a strapon penis.

No closeted hetero issues there...no sireee...

Understand your own closeted issues first, then tell the world how everything you do is peachy, normal and fine.

I get it. You're really pissy right now. You know this 1st Amendment issue isn't getting swept under the rug. Something about that bothers you. And it should. Because you and I both know where this is going. Your social movement is going to be exposed as a set of ideologies instead of something static like race. And *poof* there goes the false premise you launched EVERY legal challenge off of since day one.
I'm not pissy, you're insane. You've never been right about the court and sine they have already rejected your position, you're wrong on this as well.
 
Yeah
So...You think the age of sexual consent should be, actually there isn't one in the Bible, can have sex with whoever ya want.

People should be stoned to death for working during the Sabbath?

Etc. cuz religion's just so groovy. Not at all fucked up.
No, Christians don't follow the Old Testament. It's just a historical citation. They follow the teachings of the New Testament of Jesus. And besides, I'm not a Christian.

Jesus said : "ye who is without sin cast the first stone". Remember that Jesus came along to correct the old jewish law mistakes? No? Might want to brush up on a basic world religions course and get back to the conversation after.

You're not a Christian? Bullshit! I went to your home site you posted in your "Silhouette is leaving USMB" thread a couple months ago. You call yourself a 'Rouge Christian' and your site is riddled with crosses and mentions of Jude 1. Why lie about it Sil? I don't care that you are Christian but to claim otherwise is a lie. The only person you are fooling is yourself.

HOME

Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with Proverbs 12:22

Silhouette Care to address your lie?
You are a total loon, J., and don't post your website.
 
How am I fucked? Are you confused who we're talking about here?

The demonic Left overreached. This case is going to put an unconstitutional law before SCOTUS.

You think the SCOTUS is going to make homosexuals second class citizens in the area of commerce? Really?
Getting rid of public accommodation laws and restoring freedom of association levels the playing field for everyone. Or has your mind been so perverted that you think homosexuality is the only thing going on in this country?

You honestly believe that the whites only lunch counter is coming back?

You're a fucking retard.


no one ever said or implied that whites only lunch counters should come back. as to a fuckin retard---you have that one locked up

"Getting rid of public accommodation laws..."

What do you think that means?


who is advocating doing away with PA laws? not me.
 
Getting rid of public accommodation laws and restoring freedom of association levels the playing field for everyone. Or has your mind been so perverted that you think homosexuality is the only thing going on in this country?

You honestly believe that the whites only lunch counter is coming back?

You're a fucking retard.


no one ever said or implied that whites only lunch counters should come back. as to a fuckin retard---you have that one locked up

"Getting rid of public accommodation laws..."

What do you think that means?
Freedom.

No it means that segregation and discrimination come back.

No surprise that conservatives think that means 'freedom'.


No, it doesn't. PA laws do not override the first amendment.
 
You honestly believe that the whites only lunch counter is coming back?

You're a fucking retard.


no one ever said or implied that whites only lunch counters should come back. as to a fuckin retard---you have that one locked up

"Getting rid of public accommodation laws..."

What do you think that means?
Freedom.

No it means that segregation and discrimination come back.

No surprise that conservatives think that means 'freedom'.


No, it doesn't. PA laws do not override the first amendment.
Yes, they do. That is for the sidewalk, not the shop open to the public. It's not for the office either, they have rules you need to follow.
 
You honestly believe that the whites only lunch counter is coming back?

You're a fucking retard.


no one ever said or implied that whites only lunch counters should come back. as to a fuckin retard---you have that one locked up

"Getting rid of public accommodation laws..."

What do you think that means?
Freedom.

No it means that segregation and discrimination come back.

No surprise that conservatives think that means 'freedom'.


No, it doesn't. PA laws do not override the first amendment.

Sorry, but if you put a sign in the window of your business that says, in any manner,

we don't serve gays, or we don't serve blacks,

you have refused service to those people. That is against the law.
 
You think the SCOTUS is going to make homosexuals second class citizens in the area of commerce? Really?
Getting rid of public accommodation laws and restoring freedom of association levels the playing field for everyone. Or has your mind been so perverted that you think homosexuality is the only thing going on in this country?

You honestly believe that the whites only lunch counter is coming back?

You're a fucking retard.


no one ever said or implied that whites only lunch counters should come back. as to a fuckin retard---you have that one locked up

"Getting rid of public accommodation laws..."

What do you think that means?


who is advocating doing away with PA laws? not me.

The poster I replied to, genius.
 
Sorry, but if you put a sign in the window of your business that says, in any manner,

we don't serve gays, or we don't serve blacks,

you have refused service to those people. That is against the law.

Since "gays" are "people DOING a certain thing" and blacks are "people BEING a certain thing" the comparison is false.

How about a sign that says "we refuse to participate in any behavior or ideology we do not condone".?

And on that note NYCarbineer, can I sue you if you refuse as a billboard artist, on principle, to print a billboard for me that says "Homosexuality is a sin unto God"?
 
CHRISTIANS CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATED

Exclusive Oregon bakery s fight for religious freedom On Air Videos Fox News

In a daring move all Americans should applaud, Hannity had an exclusive interview with the Oregon couple fined and then gagged by the Commissioner Brad Avakian of the Labor Board there. Or Allan McCullough, judge? Either or.

Yesterday — just in time for the Fourth of July holiday — Oregon Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian issued his long-awaited ruling against Aaron and Melissa Klein, owners of the since-closed Sweet Cakes by Melissa. Finding them guilty of sexual orientation discrimination for refusing to bake a cake to celebrate a same-sex wedding, Avakian not only ordered the Kleins to pay $135,000 in “emotional damages” to the complaining lesbian couple, he also slapped a gag order on them, ordering them to “cease and desist” from “publishing, circulating, issuing or displaying, or causing to be published … any communication to the effect that any of the accommodations … will be refused, withheld from or denied to, or that any discrimination be made against, any person on account of their sexual orientation.” In other words, if the Kleins continue to proclaim their unwillingness to celebrate gay marriage in their business activities, they’re in likely violation of Avakian’s order. Oregon Slaps Christian Bakers With a Fine and Gag Order for Refusing to Help Celebrate Gay Wedding National Review Online

Citing a law in Oregon that punishes people for violating others' civil rights, Commissioner Avakian disallowed the bakers to exercise their 1st Amendment civil right! But it gets better (worse, I was being sarcastic). He then doubled down on suppressing their 1st Amendment civil right by gagging them from speaking about his abuse of their civil rights. :eek-52:

So....*giggle*....what does Sean Hannity do on Fox News? Gets an exclusive interview with them less than a week later and flips this Commissioner the middle finger.

Be prepared Commissioner Avakian. I'd brush up on your resume'. I have a feeling you might be needing it soon. Hannity was double-daring Mr. Avakian to do something about that gag order. Good for Hannity. He may actually be redeemed in my eyes at this point. Back when he was pimping for Cheney I used to want to shove that football he threw where the sun doesn't shine.

But this, this was an act of sublime courage and defense of all Americans, each and every one...including gay people. Imagine if you will a Christian marching into a gay billboard designer's shop and ordering a sign for a busy highway that reads: "Homosexuality is a sin unto God". And upon that gay designer's refusal on principle to print that sign, the Christian sues the gay guy for PA violations? And a court awarded the Christian $135K. And then the same court gagged the gay guy if he tried to speak out against that violation of his 1st Amendment right?

:bowdown: So hat's off to Hannity and the bakers Aaron and Melissa Klein! Your defiance of that gag order is a pristine and excellent display of American fight, tenacity and courage. Keep up the good work. Run that judge into the poorhouse instead. :eusa_clap: :eusa_dance:

For more information on the suprisingly easy process of turning in bad judges, refer to this thread: The Civil Rights Double-Edged Sword Time To Silence The Rogue Judge In Oregon Instead. Page 5 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
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If you don't live in Oregon and you hear of a judgment that is similar in nature, here is a list by state of offices you can contact for easy forms to launch a judicial investigation. If you know of a Christian who has had their civil rights (1st Amendment) violated by a judge or commissioner, contact the judicial review board for your state IMMEDIATELY. The 9th Amendment to the US Constitution says that no new rights created or any that already exist may infringe upon another right granted elsewhere in the Constitution. That includes 1st Amendment rights to exercise faith. This includes politely declining to participate in ideologies than run contrary to the Christian faith, such as homosexuals taking away mother & father marriage from children.

A master link for mailing & phone info: State Commission on Judicial Conduct

Alabama: (whose government apparently hasn't heard of the internet yet)
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401 Adams Avenue
P.0. Box 303400
Montgomery, AL 36130-3400
Phone (334) 242-4089
Fax(334) 353-4043

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Maryland: http://www.courts.state.md.us/cjd/code.html

Massachusetts: Massachusetts Commission on Judicial Conduct

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Hannity deserves the clap.
 
Hannity deserves the clap.

Isn't he a party to contempt of a court order? Why isn't Brad Avakian doing anything about Hannity airing the couple defying the gag order?

Because they didn't defy the order. Idiot.

The judge issues a gag order saying the couple can't discuss how their religion allows them not to participate in a gay wedding and they go on Fox News on primetime on Hannity's show less than a week later and give a tell-all on how their religion allows them not to participate in a gay wedding and you say this was NOT contempt of the gag order's specifications?

How so?
 
Here's the Oregon law.

Let the couple go to the unelected tyrants aka judges and get it ruled unconstitutional.

ORS 659A.409 - Notice that discrimination will be made in place of public accommodation prohibited - 2013 Oregon Revised Statutes

Until then,

U R fucked.
How am I fucked? Are you confused who we're talking about here?

The demonic Left overreached. This case is going to put an unconstitutional law before SCOTUS.

You think the SCOTUS is going to make homosexuals second class citizens in the area of commerce? Really?
Getting rid of public accommodation laws and restoring freedom of association levels the playing field for everyone. Or has your mind been so perverted that you think homosexuality is the only thing going on in this country?

You honestly believe that the whites only lunch counter is coming back?

You're a fucking retard.
Did I say that? Or is that the Leftist movie that runs in your head?

That is exactly what you said. Getting rid of public accommodation laws legalizes the whites only lunch counter.
 
Hannity deserves the clap.

Isn't he a party to contempt of a court order? Why isn't Brad Avakian doing anything about Hannity airing the couple defying the gag order?

Because they didn't defy the order. Idiot.

The judge issues a gag order saying the couple can't discuss how their religion allows them not to participate in a gay wedding and they go on Fox News on primetime on Hannity's show less than a week later and give a tell-all on how their religion allows them not to participate in a gay wedding and you say this was NOT contempt of the gag order's specifications?

How so?

That's not the order issued, retard.
 
That's not the order issued, retard.

Well let's look at what the order says then, shall we? And we'll see if them saying they were going to stand firm to their faith and not bake cakes for gay weddings and appeal the case on Hannity's show on Fox, was in violation of that order, retard.

he also slapped a gag order on them, ordering them to “cease and desist” from “publishing, circulating, issuing or displaying, or causing to be published … any communication to the effect that any of the accommodations … will be refused, withheld from or denied to, or that any discrimination be made against, any person on account of their sexual orientation.” In other words, if the Kleins continue to proclaim their unwillingness to celebrate gay marriage in their business activities, they’re in likely violation of Avakian’s order." Oregon Slaps Christian Bakers With a Fine and Gag Order for Refusing to Help Celebrate Gay Wedding National Review Online

Yep, it was a direct violation of the gag order for them to say what they did in the OP linked video on Hannity's show.

Any word from Avakian yet on sanctions? Contempt proceedings? No? :popcorn:
 
Sorry, but if you put a sign in the window of your business that says, in any manner,

we don't serve gays, or we don't serve blacks,

you have refused service to those people. That is against the law.

Since "gays" are "people DOING a certain thing" and blacks are "people BEING a certain thing" the comparison is false.

How about a sign that says "we refuse to participate in any behavior or ideology we do not condone".?

And on that note NYCarbineer, can I sue you if you refuse as a billboard artist, on principle, to print a billboard for me that says "Homosexuality is a sin unto God"?
Yes...we know that when you see gay people you cannot help but think of them "doing it". How sad that you have that kind of outlook on people. Do you do the same thing when you see straight people? Can you not help but just think of them as who they are "doing it" with and how?
 
Yes...we know that when you see gay people you cannot help but think of them "doing it". How sad that you have that kind of outlook on people. Do you do the same thing when you see straight people? Can you not help but just think of them as who they are "doing it" with and how?

Just saw the picture in your signature, speaking of diversions from the thread topic...

..Gonna land you a lot of middle dem votes out of the South I imagine...because EVERYONE KNOWS that all democrats (each and every one) support fatherless or motherless "marriages"...and, having their voices silenced on approval or disapproval of said.
 
"Hannity & Fox News"

Are completely devoid of merit.

You and other rightwing nitwits need to get over this 'cake' nonsense, you succeed in only exhibiting your ignorance of the Constitution and its case law.

...and their counterparts aren't?

Good to know you're just as partisan as your political enemies.
 
Yes...we know that when you see gay people you cannot help but think of them "doing it". How sad that you have that kind of outlook on people. Do you do the same thing when you see straight people? Can you not help but just think of them as who they are "doing it" with and how?

Just saw the picture in your signature, speaking of diversions from the thread topic...

..Gonna land you a lot of middle dem votes out of the South I imagine...because EVERYONE KNOWS that all democrats (each and every one) support fatherless or motherless "marriages"...and, having their voices silenced on approval or disapproval of said.
You haven't answered my question. When you see couples, gay or straight, can you not help thinking of them "doing it"?
 
I hope they got paid for the interview. Their bigotry cost them quite the hefty fee after all.

Old School,

Listen it is simple... Refuse a gay person a cake.

They sue...

The religious nuts send load of money and the fine is paid with plenty left over.

You should make $250k easy.

By the way the bible is litter with plenty of reasons why it was a sin for those cake sellers not to sell that cake. Tolerance is a big part of the bible.
 

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