Occupation 101

[georgephillip]

"...Israel has never claimed legal title to all of the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine. On the contrary, it has repeatedly denied such a claim in official statements and acts.

"On May 22, 1948, soon after Israel's declaration of independence, the country's representative to the U.N. Security Council stated that its territory was 'the area outlined in the map appended to the resolution of 29 November 1947, as constituting the area assigned to the Jewish state' -- namely that area accorded to the nascent Israel by the U.N. Partition Plan contained in General Assembly Resolution 181.

"This did not include the West Bank.

"The same view was consistently expressed by Israeli courts.

"In 1950, Israel's Supreme Court ruled, 'The territory of the state of Israel does not coincide with all the territory under the former mandate.'

"Israel thus refused to be seen as the successor state to the Palestinian mandate. Accordingly, it refused to accede to treaties that bound the mandate and refused to pay the public debt that Palestine owed to Britain.

"How then can there be a right of Israeli settlement in the West Bank, territory to which Israel itself has never made legal claim?"

Why do you suppose Israel refused to accede to mandate treaties?

Possibly for the same reason Israel has never formally declared borders?

International Law...

 

[Marc39]

"...Israel has never claimed legal title to all of the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine. On the contrary, it has repeatedly denied such a claim in official statements and acts.

Wrong, again, high school dropout Georgie.

The San Remo Resolution transferred sovereignty over Palestine from the Ottoman Turks to the Jews in 1920.

Now, you know, dummy.

 

[Marc39]

ifamericansknew.org

Bogus website, Uneducated Georgie.

 

[Marc39]

"This did not include the West Bank

Wrong, clueless Georgie.

The League of Nations' Palestine Mandate establishing Palestine as the Jewish homeland includes all territory from the Jordan River to the Med. Sea.

The original Mandate even included Eastern Palestine (TransJordan), which was amended when the British gave Eastern Palestine to the Hashemite trash from the Hijaz.

Western Palestine--The West Bank--is included in the Jewish homeland.

Now, you know, Georgie

 

[georgephillip]

"...Israel has never claimed legal title to all of the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine. On the contrary, it has repeatedly denied such a claim in official statements and acts.

Wrong, again, high school dropout Georgie.

The San Remo Resolution transferred sovereignty over Palestine from the Ottoman Turks to the Jews in 1920.

Now, you know, dummy.

"The same view was consistently expressed by Israeli courts. In 1950, Israel's Supreme Court ruled, "The territory of the state of Israel does not coincide with all the territory under the former mandate." Israel thus refused to be seen as the successor state to the Palestinian mandate."

True or False?

"Princeton"

International Law

 

[docmauser1]

"The same view was consistently expressed by Israeli courts. In 1950, Israel's Supreme Court ruled, "The territory of the state of Israel does not coincide with all the territory under the former mandate." Israel thus refused to be seen as the successor state to the Palestinian mandate."

Why doesn't that protocomrade site publish the context? Case name? Do they think that, everyone must be dumb to buy that just like that?

 

[docmauser1]

... U.N. Partition Plan contained in General Assembly Resolution 181. This did not include the West Bank.

• After arabs dissed the resolution 181, thumping subsequent reoslutions is a pointless occupation.
• Starting wars may end in a loss of the real estate, of course. Fact of life. Another lesson arabs should be learning, but they won't learn.

 

[Marc39]

["The same view was consistently expressed by Israeli courts. In 1950, Israel's Supreme Court ruled, "The territory of the state of Israel does not coincide with all the territory under the former mandate." Israel thus refused to be seen as the successor state to the Palestinian mandate.

Uneducated Georgie, your website is bogus.

The Palestine Mandate includes all of Palestine as the Jewish homeland...
"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country"

"The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes."

 

[georgephillip]

"What are the occupied territories?

After the 1947-48 war, the new state of Israel was created in 78 percent of what had been British Mandate Palestine under the League of Nations since 1922.

"The 22 percent that was left was made up of the Gaza Strip, a small piece of land along the Mediterranean coast abutting the Egyptian border, the West Bank, along the Jordan River, and Arab East Jerusalem.

"From the end of the British Mandate in 1948 until the June War of 1967, the Gaza Strip was controlled by Egypt, the West Bank and East Jerusalem governed by Jordan.

In the 1967 War, Israel took over the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem, the last 22 percent of historic Palestine.

"Those areas are now identified as the occupied territories."

 

[Marc39]

"What are the occupied territories?

After the 1947-48 war, the new state of Israel was created in 78 percent of what had been British Mandate Palestine under the League of Nations since 1922.

"The 22 percent that was left was made up of the Gaza Strip, a small piece of land along the Mediterranean coast abutting the Egyptian border, the West Bank, along the Jordan River, and Arab East Jerusalem.

"From the end of the British Mandate in 1948 until the June War of 1967, the Gaza Strip was controlled by Egypt, the West Bank and East Jerusalem governed by Jordan.

In the 1967 War, Israel took over the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem, the last 22 percent of historic Palestine.

"Those areas are now identified as the occupied territories."

The Palestine Mandate which establishes ALL of Palestine as the Jewish homeland, has never expired, protected by the UN Charter.

There is no mention of a Pallie state in the Palestine Mandate. Nor, is there a Pallie state, today, to be occupied.
Pallies rejected statehood conferred by the UN in 1947.

Now, you know, Clueless Georgie.

 

[georgephillip]

So says Linkless Poseur.

Got any proof?

Thought so.

 

[Marc39]

So says Linkless Poseur.

Got any proof?

Thought so.

Read the Palestine Mandate, Clueless One. Too bad you dropped out of high school, eh?

 

[Marc39]

So says Linkless Poseur.

Got any proof?

Thought so.

Jihadi Georgie, read the UN Charter, which protects the Palestine Mandate from termination.

Do your homework so I don't have to do it for you, jackass

 

[P F Tinmore]

"This did not include the West Bank

Wrong, clueless Georgie.

The League of Nations' Palestine Mandate establishing Palestine as the Jewish homeland includes all territory from the Jordan River to the Med. Sea.

The original Mandate even included Eastern Palestine (TransJordan), which was amended when the British gave Eastern Palestine to the Hashemite trash from the Hijaz.

Western Palestine--The West Bank--is included in the Jewish homeland.

Now, you know, Georgie

And when the Jewish homeland thing flopped they twisted arms to pass resolution 181. When 181 flopped Israel simply attacked the civilian population of Palestine and stole their land.

 

[georgephillip]

One of the myths that many Americans still believe is that the initial war
between the Arabs and Israelis broke out on May 15, 1948 when the British
withdrew and military units from Egypt, Jordan, Iraq and Syria entered
Palestine, allegedly because the Arabs had rejected a partition plan that the
Israelis accepted.

"In fact, the fighting began almost six months earlier, immediately after
the partition plan was announced.

By the time the Arab armies intervened in
May, some 400,000 Palestinians already had fled or been driven from their
homes.

"To the Arab nations the military forces they sent to Palestine were on
a rescue mission to halt the dispossession of Palestinians from the areas the
U.N. had awarded to both the Jewish and the Palestinian Arab state.

"In fact history has revealed that the Jordanian forces had orders not to venture into areas the U.N. had awarded to Israel.

"Although the newly created Israeli government didn’t formally reject
the partition plan, in practice it never accepted the plan.

"To this day, half a century later, Israel still refuses to define its borders. (1998)

"In fact, when the fighting of 1947 and 1948 ended, the State of Israel occupied half of Jerusalem and 78 percent of the former mandate of Palestine.

"About 750,000 Muslim and Christian Palestinians had been driven from towns, villages and homes to which the Israeli forces never allowed them to return.

"The four wars that followed, three of them started by Israel in 1956, 1967, and 1982, and one of them started by Egypt and Syria to recover their occupied lands in 1973, have been over the portions of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt which the Israelis occupied militarily in those wars, the other half of Jerusalem, and the 22 percent of Palestine – comprising the West Bank and
Gaza – which is all that remains for the Palestinians."

The Cost...PP 3-4

 

[P F Tinmore]

"What are the occupied territories?

After the 1947-48 war, the new state of Israel was created in 78 percent of what had been British Mandate Palestine under the League of Nations since 1922.

"The 22 percent that was left was made up of the Gaza Strip, a small piece of land along the Mediterranean coast abutting the Egyptian border, the West Bank, along the Jordan River, and Arab East Jerusalem.

"From the end of the British Mandate in 1948 until the June War of 1967, the Gaza Strip was controlled by Egypt, the West Bank and East Jerusalem governed by Jordan.

In the 1967 War, Israel took over the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem, the last 22 percent of historic Palestine.

"Those areas are now identified as the occupied territories."

The Palestine Mandate which establishes ALL of Palestine as the Jewish homeland, has never expired, protected by the UN Charter.

There is no mention of a Pallie state in the Palestine Mandate. Nor, is there a Pallie state, today, to be occupied.
Pallies rejected statehood conferred by the UN in 1947.

Now, you know, Clueless Georgie.

The Palestinians did not reject statehood. They rejected giving half their country to a bunch of foreign crooks.

 

[Marc39]

"What are the occupied territories?

After the 1947-48 war, the new state of Israel was created in 78 percent of what had been British Mandate Palestine under the League of Nations since 1922.

"The 22 percent that was left was made up of the Gaza Strip, a small piece of land along the Mediterranean coast abutting the Egyptian border, the West Bank, along the Jordan River, and Arab East Jerusalem.

"From the end of the British Mandate in 1948 until the June War of 1967, the Gaza Strip was controlled by Egypt, the West Bank and East Jerusalem governed by Jordan.

In the 1967 War, Israel took over the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem, the last 22 percent of historic Palestine.

"Those areas are now identified as the occupied territories."

The Palestine Mandate which establishes ALL of Palestine as the Jewish homeland, has never expired, protected by the UN Charter.

There is no mention of a Pallie state in the Palestine Mandate. Nor, is there a Pallie state, today, to be occupied.
Pallies rejected statehood conferred by the UN in 1947.

Now, you know, Clueless Georgie.

The Palestinians did not reject statehood. They rejected giving half their country to a bunch of foreign crooks.

You're way out of your depth, as usual. Pallies went to war with the Jews one day after rejecting UN Res. 181.

Palestine has never in history been a an Arab country, dummy. For 400 years, it was viewed by Arabs as part of Syria and was under Ottoman Turkish control, who were not Arabs. Earlier, it was controled by the Mamluks, not Arabs.

The correct historical term for the territory is Judea and Canaan. "Jew" is derived from Judea.

The word "Palestine" is a Latin-derived word invented by the Romans in 135 AD based on "Palaestina" that they renamed Judea after the Philistines, who were Aegean, not Arab.

Thus, there is nothing Palestinian about Palestine.

Middle East historian Bernard Lewis edifies...
"For Arabs, too, the term Palestine was unacceptable, though for other reasons. For Muslims it was alien and irrelevant but not abhorrent in the same way as it was to Jews. The main objection for them was that it seemed to assert a separate entity which politically conscious Arabs in Palestine and elsewhere denied. For them there was no such thing as a country called Palestine. The region which the British called Palestine was merely a separated part of a larger whole [Syria]. Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries; it was a group of provincial subdivisions, by no means always the same, within a larger entity. For a long time organized and articulate Arab political opinion was virtually unanimous on this point."

Your history lesson for the day.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Palestine Mandate which establishes ALL of Palestine as the Jewish homeland, has never expired, protected by the UN Charter.

There is no mention of a Pallie state in the Palestine Mandate. Nor, is there a Pallie state, today, to be occupied.
Pallies rejected statehood conferred by the UN in 1947.

Now, you know, Clueless Georgie.

The Palestinians did not reject statehood. They rejected giving half their country to a bunch of foreign crooks.

You're way out of your depth, as usual. Pallies went to war with the Jews one day after rejecting UN Res. 181.

Palestine has never in history been a an Arab country, dummy. For 400 years, it was viewed by Arabs as part of Syria and was under Ottoman Turkish control, who were not Arabs. Earlier, it was controled by the Mamluks, not Arabs.

The correct historical term for the territory is Judea and Canaan. "Jew" is derived from Judea.

The word "Palestine" is a Latin-derived word invented by the Romans in 135 AD based on "Palaestina" that they renamed Judea after the Philistines, who were Aegean, not Arab.

Thus, there is nothing Palestinian about Palestine.

Middle East historian Bernard Lewis edifies...
"For Arabs, too, the term Palestine was unacceptable, though for other reasons. For Muslims it was alien and irrelevant but not abhorrent in the same way as it was to Jews. The main objection for them was that it seemed to assert a separate entity which politically conscious Arabs in Palestine and elsewhere denied. For them there was no such thing as a country called Palestine. The region which the British called Palestine was merely a separated part of a larger whole [Syria]. Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries; it was a group of provincial subdivisions, by no means always the same, within a larger entity. For a long time organized and articulate Arab political opinion was virtually unanimous on this point."

Your history lesson for the day.

You're way out of your depth. The Zionists began invading Palestine around the turn of the century.

Your history lesson for the day.

 

[Marc39]

The Palestinians did not reject statehood. They rejected giving half their country to a bunch of foreign crooks.

You're way out of your depth, as usual. Pallies went to war with the Jews one day after rejecting UN Res. 181.

Palestine has never in history been a an Arab country, dummy. For 400 years, it was viewed by Arabs as part of Syria and was under Ottoman Turkish control, who were not Arabs. Earlier, it was controled by the Mamluks, not Arabs.

The correct historical term for the territory is Judea and Canaan. "Jew" is derived from Judea.

The word "Palestine" is a Latin-derived word invented by the Romans in 135 AD based on "Palaestina" that they renamed Judea after the Philistines, who were Aegean, not Arab.

Thus, there is nothing Palestinian about Palestine.

Middle East historian Bernard Lewis edifies...
"For Arabs, too, the term Palestine was unacceptable, though for other reasons. For Muslims it was alien and irrelevant but not abhorrent in the same way as it was to Jews. The main objection for them was that it seemed to assert a separate entity which politically conscious Arabs in Palestine and elsewhere denied. For them there was no such thing as a country called Palestine. The region which the British called Palestine was merely a separated part of a larger whole [Syria]. Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries; it was a group of provincial subdivisions, by no means always the same, within a larger entity. For a long time organized and articulate Arab political opinion was virtually unanimous on this point."

Your history lesson for the day.

You're way out of your depth. The Zionists began invading Palestine around the turn of the century.

Your history lesson for the day.

You're clueless. Jews lived in Canaan thousands of years before Muhammad was even hatched.

The Ottoman Turks who controlled "Palestine" permitted Jewish immigration.

In fact, the few Arabs who owned land sold it to the Jews...

Palestine Royal Commission...
"The Arab population shows a remarkable increase since 1920, and it has had some share in the increased prosperity of Palestine. Many Arab landowners have benefited from the sale of land [to Jews] and the profitable investment of the purchase money. The fellaheen are better off on the whole than they were in 1920. This Arab progress has been partly due to the import of Jewish capital into Palestine and other factors associated with the growth of the National Home. In particular, the Arabs have benefited from social services which could not have been provided on the existing scale without the revenue obtained from the Jews.[/quote]

Your lesson for the day, shit-for-brains

 

[P F Tinmore]

"...Israel has never claimed legal title to all of the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine. On the contrary, it has repeatedly denied such a claim in official statements and acts.

"On May 22, 1948, soon after Israel's declaration of independence, the country's representative to the U.N. Security Council stated that its territory was 'the area outlined in the map appended to the resolution of 29 November 1947, as constituting the area assigned to the Jewish state' -- namely that area accorded to the nascent Israel by the U.N. Partition Plan contained in General Assembly Resolution 181.

"This did not include the West Bank.

"The same view was consistently expressed by Israeli courts.

"In 1950, Israel's Supreme Court ruled, 'The territory of the state of Israel does not coincide with all the territory under the former mandate.'

"Israel thus refused to be seen as the successor state to the Palestinian mandate. Accordingly, it refused to accede to treaties that bound the mandate and refused to pay the public debt that Palestine owed to Britain.

"How then can there be a right of Israeli settlement in the West Bank, territory to which Israel itself has never made legal claim?"

Why do you suppose Israel refused to accede to mandate treaties?

Possibly for the same reason Israel has never formally declared borders?

International Law...

Israel has never claimed legal title to any of Palestine.

Not one square inch of Palestine falls inside any Israeli border.