Occupation 101

[jillian]

shouldn't you losers be posting on Al Jazeera?

you should both go put your money where your ignorant lying mouths are.

 

[georgephillip]

Would it completely destroy your faith in the "Rule of Law" if the Jewish State of Israel is just another lie the rich tell?

 

[jillian]

Would it completely destroy your faith in the "Rule of Law" if the Jewish State of Israel is just another lie the rich tell?

if it is, boy did hitler screw up. why do you hate jews so much that you try to pretend there's no such thing? perhaps that's the big issue here.

but seriously, go put your money where your ignorant mouth is

 

[georgephillip]

Do you think it's possible to support the Jewish State of Israel without condoning the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza?

 

[docmauser1]

Do you think it's possible to support the Jewish State of Israel without condoning the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza?

Is there any occupation outside of the palistainian occupational?

 

[Marc39]

Do you think it's possible to support the Jewish State of Israel without condoning the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza?

Jihadi Georgie, the West Bank and Gaza and the rest of Palestine are Jewish land, historically and legally.

League of Nations' Palestine Mandate...
"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country"

"An appropriate Jewish agency shall be recognised as a public body for the purpose of advising and co-operating with the Administration of Palestine in such economic, social and other matters as may affect the establishment of the Jewish national home and the interests of the Jewish population in Palestine, and, subject always to the control of the Administration to assist and take part in the development of the country. "

"The Zionist organization, so long as its organization and constitution are in the opinion of the Mandatory appropriate, shall be recognised as such agency. It shall take steps in consultation with His Britannic Majesty's Government to secure the co-operation of all Jews who are willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home. "

Your lesson for the day, Jihadi Georgie

 

[georgephillip]

Do you think it's possible to support the Jewish State of Israel without condoning the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza?

Is there any occupation outside of the palistainian occupational?

"# Resolution 242 (November 22, 1967): Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area.

"Calls on Israel's neighbors to end the state of belligerency and calls upon Israel to reciprocate by withdraw its forces from land claimed by other parties in 1967 war.

"Interpreted commonly today as calling for the Land for peace principle as a way to resolve Arab-Israeli conflict."

This is the only occupation involved.
The Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.

List of UN resolutions...

 

[Marc39]

Do you think it's possible to support the Jewish State of Israel without condoning the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza?

Is there any occupation outside of the palistainian occupational?

"# Resolution 242[/B] (November 22, 1967): Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area.

Calls on Israel's neighbors to end the state of belligerency and calls upon Israel to reciprocate by withdraw its forces from land claimed by other parties in 1967 war[/B].

"Interpreted commonly today as calling for the Land for peace principle as a way to resolve Arab-Israeli conflict."

This is the only occupation involved.
The Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza.

List of UN resolutions...

Jihadi Georgie, as I have already instructed you, UN Res. 242 is non-binding. Since you're brain dead, non-binding means it has no force of law and constitutes merely a recommendation.

Furthermore, Jihadi Georgie, 242 does not place unilateral obligations on Israel--242 is predicated on Hamas and other Pallie terrorist factions to make peace with Israel.

Further, still, Israel has fulfilled the terms of 242 in having forfeited Sinai to Egypt, which constituted 95% of the seized land.

Lastly, 242 says nothing about Pallies or the establishment of a Pallie state.

There is no Israeli occupation as there is no Pallie state to be occupied. The binding Palestine Mandate established ALL of the territory as sovereign Israeli land.

Try to remember, Jihadi Georgie.

 

[Marc39]

List of UN resolutions...

Not one UN resolution issued vis-s-vis Israel is binding, Jihadi Georgie. Which means, the Arab and Muslim-controlled UN doesn't even take them seriously.

You enjoy getting smacked down by me, Jihadi Georgie.

 

[georgephillip]

Do you think it's possible to support the Jewish State of Israel without condoning the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza?

Jihadi Georgie, the West Bank and Gaza and the rest of Palestine are Jewish land, historically and legally.

League of Nations' Palestine Mandate...
"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country"

"An appropriate Jewish agency shall be recognised as a public body for the purpose of advising and co-operating with the Administration of Palestine in such economic, social and other matters as may affect the establishment of the Jewish national home and the interests of the Jewish population in Palestine, and, subject always to the control of the Administration to assist and take part in the development of the country. "

"The Zionist organization, so long as its organization and constitution are in the opinion of the Mandatory appropriate, shall be recognised as such agency. It shall take steps in consultation with His Britannic Majesty's Government to secure the co-operation of all Jews who are willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home. "

Your lesson for the day, Jihadi Georgie

Poseur:

Did you major in Economics or History at "Princeton"?

"The League of Nations British Mandate of Palestine attempted to make the national home for the Jewish people an article of the Law of Nations,[21] by incorporating the wording of the Balfour Declaration.

"The mandates were supported by President Woodrow Wilson, but the Senate refused to ratify the Covenant of the League of Nations or the mandates. Senator Borah explained his objections to the mandates:

When this league, this combination, is formed four great powers representing the dominant people will rule one-half of the inhabitants of the globe as subject peoples – rule by force, and we shall be a party to the rule of force. There is no other way by which you can keep people in subjection.

"You must either give them independence, recognize their rights as nations to live their own life and to set up their own form of government, or you must deny them these things by force.[22]

"The British Foreign Secretary, Lord Curzon, together with the Italian and French governments rejected early drafts of the mandate because it had contained a passage which read:

"'Recognizing, moreover, the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and the claim which this gives them to reconstitute it their national home...'"

"The Palestine Committee set up by the Foreign Office recommended that the reference to 'the claim' be omitted. The Allies had already noted the historical connection in the Treaty of Sèvres, but they had recognized no legal claim.

"They felt that whatever might be done for the Jewish people was based entirely on sentimental grounds.

"Further, they felt that all that was necessary was to make room for Zionists in Palestine, not that they should turn 'it', that is the whole country, into their home.

"Lord Balfour suggested an alternative which was accepted:

'"Whereas recognition has thereby [i.e. by the Treaty of Sèvres] been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine, and to the [sentimental] grounds for reconstituting their National Home in that country ...'"

Sentiment and subjugation not history or law form the bedrock of Israel's colonization of Palestine.

If you're still too chickenshit to post your Wiki, at least try reading...Maybe your lying will improve...

United Nations Partition...

 

[Marc39]

The League of Nations British Mandate of Palestine attempted to make the national home for the Jewish people an article of the Law of Nations,[21] by incorporating the wording of the Balfour Declaration.

Jihadi Georgie, you cut and paste, but, you really are clueless.

The Balfour Declaration was non-binding. The Palestine Mandate, separate from the British Mandate, constitutes a binding treaty and international law.

The Palestine Mandate, establishing Palestine as the Jewish homeland, says not one word about Palestinians or any other Arabs, and it has never been revoked, protected by the UN Charter.

Your lesson for the day, Jihadi Georgie.

 

[Marc39]

"The mandates were supported by President Woodrow Wilson, but the Senate refused to ratify the Covenant of the League of Nations or the mandates. Senator Borah explained his objections to the mandates

Jihadi Georgie, the US was not a member of the League of Nations and, thus, was not empowered to "ratify" the mandate system. You dummy.

However, both Houses of the US Congress expressed their unanimous support for the Palestine Mandate, establishing Palestine as the Jewish homeland, and stated the historical connection between Palestine and the Jewish People in the following joint resolution...

The United States Congressional Record
1922 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
National Home for
THE JEWISH PEOPLE JUNE 30, 1922
HOUSE RESOLUTION 360 - UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED
"Palestine of today, the land we now know as Palestine, was peopled by the Jews from the dawn of history until the Roman era. It is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. They were driven from it by force by the relentless Roman military machine and for centuries prevented from returning. At different periods various alien people succeeded them but the Jewish race had left an indelible impress upon the land.

Today it is a Jewish country. Every name, every landmark, every monument and every trace of whatever civilization remaining there is still Jewish. And it has ever since remained a hope, a longing, as expressed in their prayers for these nearly 2,000 years. No other people has ever claimed Palestine as their national home. No other people has ever shown an aptitude or indicated a genuine desire to make it their homeland. The land has been ruled by foreigners. Only since the beginning of the modern Zionist effort may it be said that a creative, cultural, and economic force has entered Palestine. The Jewish Nation was forced from its natural home. It did not go because it wanted to.

A perusal of Jewish history, a reading of Josephus, will convince the most skeptical that the grandest fight that was ever put up against an enemy was put up by the Jew. He never thought of leaving Palestine. But he was driven out. But did he, when driven out, give up his hope of getting back? Jewish history and Jewish literature give the answer to the question. The Jew even has a fast day devoted to the day of destruction of the Jewish homeland.

Never throughout history did they give up hope of returning there. I am told that 90 per cent of the Jews today are praying for the return of the Jewish people to its own home. The best minds among them believe in the necessity of reestablishing their Jewish land. To my mind there is something prophetic in the fact that during the ages no other nation has taken over Palestine and held it in the sense of a homeland; and there is something providential in the fact that for 1,800 years it has remained in desolation as if waiting for the return of the people."

 

[georgephillip]

Poseur:

Prove the Palestine Mandate is a binding treaty.

 

[Marc39]

Poseur:

Prove the Palestine Mandate is a binding treaty.

The Palestine Mandate constitutes an international treaty among the 51 nation-states representing the full international body of the League of Nations.

Now, even you know, dummy.

 

[georgephillip]

"The mandates were supported by President Woodrow Wilson, but the Senate refused to ratify the Covenant of the League of Nations or the mandates. Senator Borah explained his objections to the mandates

Jihadi Georgie, the US was not a member of the League of Nations and, thus, was not empowered to "ratify" the mandate system. You dummy.

However, both Houses of the US Congress expressed their unanimous support for the Palestine Mandate, establishing Palestine as the Jewish homeland, and stated the historical connection between Palestine and the Jewish People in the following joint resolution...

The United States Congressional Record
1922 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
National Home for
THE JEWISH PEOPLE JUNE 30, 1922
HOUSE RESOLUTION 360 - UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED
"Palestine of today, the land we now know as Palestine, was peopled by the Jews from the dawn of history until the Roman era. It is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. They were driven from it by force by the relentless Roman military machine and for centuries prevented from returning. At different periods various alien people succeeded them but the Jewish race had left an indelible impress upon the land.

Today it is a Jewish country. Every name, every landmark, every monument and every trace of whatever civilization remaining there is still Jewish. And it has ever since remained a hope, a longing, as expressed in their prayers for these nearly 2,000 years. No other people has ever claimed Palestine as their national home. No other people has ever shown an aptitude or indicated a genuine desire to make it their homeland. The land has been ruled by foreigners. Only since the beginning of the modern Zionist effort may it be said that a creative, cultural, and economic force has entered Palestine. The Jewish Nation was forced from its natural home. It did not go because it wanted to.

A perusal of Jewish history, a reading of Josephus, will convince the most skeptical that the grandest fight that was ever put up against an enemy was put up by the Jew. He never thought of leaving Palestine. But he was driven out. But did he, when driven out, give up his hope of getting back? Jewish history and Jewish literature give the answer to the question. The Jew even has a fast day devoted to the day of destruction of the Jewish homeland.

Never throughout history did they give up hope of returning there. I am told that 90 per cent of the Jews today are praying for the return of the Jewish people to its own home. The best minds among them believe in the necessity of reestablishing their Jewish land. To my mind there is something prophetic in the fact that during the ages no other nation has taken over Palestine and held it in the sense of a homeland; and there is something providential in the fact that for 1,800 years it has remained in desolation as if waiting for the return of the people."

That same 1922 House of Representatives sanctified Jim Crow.
Most of the racists in the '22 House supported lynching black men who whistled at White women.
Sounds like Zionists to me.

Still waiting for your "Princeton" GPA and your Wiki

Poseur

 

[Marc39]

"The mandates were supported by President Woodrow Wilson, but the Senate refused to ratify the Covenant of the League of Nations or the mandates. Senator Borah explained his objections to the mandates

Jihadi Georgie, the US was not a member of the League of Nations and, thus, was not empowered to "ratify" the mandate system. You dummy.

However, both Houses of the US Congress expressed their unanimous support for the Palestine Mandate, establishing Palestine as the Jewish homeland, and stated the historical connection between Palestine and the Jewish People in the following joint resolution...

The United States Congressional Record
1922 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
National Home for
THE JEWISH PEOPLE JUNE 30, 1922
HOUSE RESOLUTION 360 - UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED
"Palestine of today, the land we now know as Palestine, was peopled by the Jews from the dawn of history until the Roman era. It is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. They were driven from it by force by the relentless Roman military machine and for centuries prevented from returning. At different periods various alien people succeeded them but the Jewish race had left an indelible impress upon the land.

Today it is a Jewish country. Every name, every landmark, every monument and every trace of whatever civilization remaining there is still Jewish. And it has ever since remained a hope, a longing, as expressed in their prayers for these nearly 2,000 years. No other people has ever claimed Palestine as their national home. No other people has ever shown an aptitude or indicated a genuine desire to make it their homeland. The land has been ruled by foreigners. Only since the beginning of the modern Zionist effort may it be said that a creative, cultural, and economic force has entered Palestine. The Jewish Nation was forced from its natural home. It did not go because it wanted to.

A perusal of Jewish history, a reading of Josephus, will convince the most skeptical that the grandest fight that was ever put up against an enemy was put up by the Jew. He never thought of leaving Palestine. But he was driven out. But did he, when driven out, give up his hope of getting back? Jewish history and Jewish literature give the answer to the question. The Jew even has a fast day devoted to the day of destruction of the Jewish homeland.

Never throughout history did they give up hope of returning there. I am told that 90 per cent of the Jews today are praying for the return of the Jewish people to its own home. The best minds among them believe in the necessity of reestablishing their Jewish land. To my mind there is something prophetic in the fact that during the ages no other nation has taken over Palestine and held it in the sense of a homeland; and there is something providential in the fact that for 1,800 years it has remained in desolation as if waiting for the return of the people."

That same 1922 House of Representatives sanctified Jim Crow.
Most of the racists in the '22 House supported lynching black men who whistled at White women.
Sounds like Zionists to me.

Still waiting for your "Princeton" GPA and your Wiki

Poseur

You're done, Georgie. Run to mommy. It's feeding time.

 

[georgephillip]

Poseur:

Prove the Palestine Mandate is a binding treaty.

The Palestine Mandate constitutes an international treaty among the 51 nation-states representing the full international body of the League of Nations.

Now, even you know, dummy.

In the same way Israelis bought $20 billion worth of US goods in 2009?

Key word: PROVE the Palestine Mandate is legally binding today.

 

[georgephillip]

Jihadi Georgie, the US was not a member of the League of Nations and, thus, was not empowered to "ratify" the mandate system. You dummy.

However, both Houses of the US Congress expressed their unanimous support for the Palestine Mandate, establishing Palestine as the Jewish homeland, and stated the historical connection between Palestine and the Jewish People in the following joint resolution...

The United States Congressional Record
1922 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
National Home for
THE JEWISH PEOPLE JUNE 30, 1922
HOUSE RESOLUTION 360 - UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED
"Palestine of today, the land we now know as Palestine, was peopled by the Jews from the dawn of history until the Roman era. It is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. They were driven from it by force by the relentless Roman military machine and for centuries prevented from returning. At different periods various alien people succeeded them but the Jewish race had left an indelible impress upon the land.

Today it is a Jewish country. Every name, every landmark, every monument and every trace of whatever civilization remaining there is still Jewish. And it has ever since remained a hope, a longing, as expressed in their prayers for these nearly 2,000 years. No other people has ever claimed Palestine as their national home. No other people has ever shown an aptitude or indicated a genuine desire to make it their homeland. The land has been ruled by foreigners. Only since the beginning of the modern Zionist effort may it be said that a creative, cultural, and economic force has entered Palestine. The Jewish Nation was forced from its natural home. It did not go because it wanted to.

A perusal of Jewish history, a reading of Josephus, will convince the most skeptical that the grandest fight that was ever put up against an enemy was put up by the Jew. He never thought of leaving Palestine. But he was driven out. But did he, when driven out, give up his hope of getting back? Jewish history and Jewish literature give the answer to the question. The Jew even has a fast day devoted to the day of destruction of the Jewish homeland.

Never throughout history did they give up hope of returning there. I am told that 90 per cent of the Jews today are praying for the return of the Jewish people to its own home. The best minds among them believe in the necessity of reestablishing their Jewish land. To my mind there is something prophetic in the fact that during the ages no other nation has taken over Palestine and held it in the sense of a homeland; and there is something providential in the fact that for 1,800 years it has remained in desolation as if waiting for the return of the people."

That same 1922 House of Representatives sanctified Jim Crow.
Most of the racists in the '22 House supported lynching black men who whistled at White women.
Sounds like Zionists to me.

Still waiting for your "Princeton" GPA and your Wiki

Poseur

You're done, Georgie. Run to mommy. It's feeding time.

What was your Major at "Princeton"?

Do you ever remember meeting your mommy?

 

[Marc39]

Poseur:

Prove the Palestine Mandate is a binding treaty.

The Palestine Mandate constitutes an international treaty among the 51 nation-states representing the full international body of the League of Nations.

Now, even you know, dummy.

In the same way Israelis bought $20 billion worth of US goods in 2009?

Key word: PROVE the Palestine Mandate is legally binding today.

The Palestine Mandate represents a multilateral treaty, Georgie, which constitutes international law.

Open a book, high school dropout.

 

[docmauser1]

"Further, they felt that all that was necessary was to make room for Zionists in Palestine, not that they should turn 'it', that is the whole country, into their home.

So feisty. Without asking about who was that arab, who authored the drivel, and without addressing the dubious reliability of wikipodia, we should ask then, why Winston hacked 75% of "Palestine" off to the arabian peninsula ancestors of the current jordanian royal behind in 1922? Seems like too many "national homes" for arabs.