Occupation 101

[Marc39]

Israel has never claimed legal title to any of Palestine.

Not one square inch of Palestine falls inside any Israeli border.

You just made this up, Tin Head. Jews formally accepted UN Res. 181 conferring Israeli statehood in "Palestine" Arabs rejected statehood.

Every square inch of Palestine is sovereign Israeli land per the binding Palestine Mandate...
"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country"

"The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions..."

"An appropriate Jewish agency shall be recognised as a public body for the purpose of advising and co-operating with the Administration of Palestine in such economic, social and other matters as may affect the establishment of the Jewish national home and the interests of the Jewish population in Palestine, and, subject always to the control of the Administration to assist and take part in the development of the country. "

"The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes"


Your lesson for the day, moron

 

[georgephillip]

"The Zionists made no secret of their intentions, for as early as 1921, Dr. Eder, a member of the Zionist Commission, boldly told the Court of Inquiry, ‘there can be only one National Home in Palestine, and that a Jewish one, and no equality in the partnership between Jews and Arabs, but a Jewish preponderance as soon as the numbers of the race are sufficiently increased.’

"He then asked that only Jews should be allowed to bear arms.” Sami Hadawi, “Bitter Harvest.”

Some things never change...

"Clearly, the last thing the Zionists really wanted was that all the inhabitants of Palestine should have an equal say in running the country...

"[Chaim] Weizmann had impressed on Churchill that representative government would have spelled the end of the [Jewish] National Home in Palestine...

"[Churchill declared,] ‘The present form of government will continue for many years. Step by step we shall develop representative institutions leading to full self-government, but our children’s children will have passed away before that is accomplished.’” David Hirst, “The Gun and the Olive Branch.”

Winston Churchill...handmaiden to the rich until the day he died...and still proving useful to apartheid everywhere.

The Origin

 

[Marc39]

"The Zionists made no secret of their intentions, for as early as 1921, Dr. Eder, a member of the Zionist Commission, boldly told the Court of Inquiry, ‘there can be only one National Home in Palestine, and that a Jewish one, and no equality in the partnership between Jews and Arabs, but a Jewish preponderance as soon as the numbers of the race are sufficiently increased.’

Georgie, you didn't read the Faisal-Weizmann Agreement of cooperation between the Jews and Arabs...

Main points of the agreement:
The agreement committed both parties to conducting all relations between the groups by the most cordial goodwill and understanding, to work together to encourage immigration of Jews into Palestine on a large scale while protecting the rights of the Arab peasants and tenant farmers, and to safeguard the free practice of religious observances. The Muslim Holy Places were to be under Muslim control.
The Zionist movement undertook to assist the Arab residents of Palestine and the future Arab state to develop their natural resources and establish a growing economy.
The boundaries between an Arab State and Palestine should be determined by a Commission after the Paris Peace Conference.
The parties committed to carrying into effect the Balfour Declaration of 1917, calling for a Jewish national home in Palestine.
Disputes were to be submitted to the British Government for arbitration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faisal–Weizmann_Agreement

Georgie, you didn't read the Israeli Declaration of Independence conferring equal rights to all Israeli Arabs...

THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace Pro...claration of Establishment of State of Israel

Georgie gets another new asshole ripped.

 

[Marc39]

[Churchill declared,] ‘The present form of government will continue for many years. Step by step we shall develop representative institutions leading to full self-government, but our children’s children will have passed away before that is accomplished.’”

Winston Churchill on the murderous Muslim monster...

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

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[P F Tinmore]

Israel has never claimed legal title to any of Palestine.

Not one square inch of Palestine falls inside any Israeli border.

You just made this up, Tin Head. Jews formally accepted UN Res. 181 conferring Israeli statehood in "Palestine" Arabs rejected statehood.

Every square inch of Palestine is sovereign Israeli land per the binding Palestine Mandate...
"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country"

"The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions..."

"An appropriate Jewish agency shall be recognised as a public body for the purpose of advising and co-operating with the Administration of Palestine in such economic, social and other matters as may affect the establishment of the Jewish national home and the interests of the Jewish population in Palestine, and, subject always to the control of the Administration to assist and take part in the development of the country. "

"The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes"


Your lesson for the day, moron

The homeland for the Jews thing flopped.

Resolution 181 was never implemented.

The 1948 war ended with Israel left empty handed.

 

[Marc39]

Israel has never claimed legal title to any of Palestine.

Not one square inch of Palestine falls inside any Israeli border.

You just made this up, Tin Head. Jews formally accepted UN Res. 181 conferring Israeli statehood in "Palestine" Arabs rejected statehood.

Every square inch of Palestine is sovereign Israeli land per the binding Palestine Mandate...
"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country"

"The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions..."

"An appropriate Jewish agency shall be recognised as a public body for the purpose of advising and co-operating with the Administration of Palestine in such economic, social and other matters as may affect the establishment of the Jewish national home and the interests of the Jewish population in Palestine, and, subject always to the control of the Administration to assist and take part in the development of the country. "

"The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes"


Your lesson for the day, moron

The homeland for the Jews thing flopped.

Resolution 181 was never implemented.

The 1948 war ended with Israel left empty handed.

The only thing that has flopped is your education, moron.

Jews are the first inhabitants of "Palestine" who are still in existence.

Open a history book, dummy. You humiliate yourself.

 

[Marc39]

Resolution 181 was never implemented.

The Palestine Mandate that preceded UN Res. 181 by 30 years establishing Palestine as the Jewish homeland has been implemented, Tin Head.

UN Res. 181 was merely a symbol of international legitimacy for Israel.

Now, you know, stooge.

 

[Marc39]

The homeland for the Jews thing flopped.

Warren Buffett knows better, Tin Head. Go back to masturbating in your room, your only achievement in life.

Warren Buffett, Multi-Billion Dollar Purchase of Successful Israeli Company...

Israel is exceptional. I can give you an absolute, unequivocal answer. You can go around the world and it's very impressive to see a country of 7 million create a business like this, I haven't seen anything like this in the US.

When you think about it, if you compare Israel (now) to 1948, it's very, very impressive. It's a remarkable place

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV3W_86NTYA[/ame]

 

[georgephillip]

"The Zionists made no secret of their intentions, for as early as 1921, Dr. Eder, a member of the Zionist Commission, boldly told the Court of Inquiry, ‘there can be only one National Home in Palestine, and that a Jewish one, and no equality in the partnership between Jews and Arabs, but a Jewish preponderance as soon as the numbers of the race are sufficiently increased.’

Georgie, you didn't read the Faisal-Weizmann Agreement of cooperation between the Jews and Arabs...

Main points of the agreement:
The agreement committed both parties to conducting all relations between the groups by the most cordial goodwill and understanding, to work together to encourage immigration of Jews into Palestine on a large scale while protecting the rights of the Arab peasants and tenant farmers, and to safeguard the free practice of religious observances. The Muslim Holy Places were to be under Muslim control.
The Zionist movement undertook to assist the Arab residents of Palestine and the future Arab state to develop their natural resources and establish a growing economy.
The boundaries between an Arab State and Palestine should be determined by a Commission after the Paris Peace Conference.
The parties committed to carrying into effect the Balfour Declaration of 1917, calling for a Jewish national home in Palestine.
Disputes were to be submitted to the British Government for arbitration.

Faisal?Weizmann Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Georgie, you didn't read the Israeli Declaration of Independence conferring equal rights to all Israeli Arabs...

THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.

Declaration of Establishment of State of Israel

Georgie gets another new asshole ripped.

"What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible.

"Land bought by the Jewish National Fund was held in the name of the Jewish people and could never be sold or even leased back to Arabs (a situation which continues to the present).

"The mythic “land without people for a people without land” was already home to 700,000 Palestinians in 1919.

"This is the root of the problem, as we shall see."

The Origin

 

[Marc39]

"What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state[/B], or as much as was possible.

Georgie, open a history book. Arabs were offered statehood in 1947 by the UN which they rejected.

And, today, there are 1.5 million Israeli Arabs.

Thus, nobody was dispossessed. Except, the 1 million Jews expelled from Arab countries in 1948.

And, the 400,000 Pallies expelled by Kuwait.

And, the 80,000 Pallies killed and expelled by Jordan during Black September.

Historian Benny Morris knows better, you moron...

The Palestinian Arabs were not responsible in some bizarre way for what befell them in 1948. Their responsibility was very direct and simple.

In defiance of the will of the international community, as embodied in the UN General Assembly Resolution of November 29th, 1947 (No. 181), they launched hostilities against the Jewish community in Palestine in the hope of aborting the emergence of the Jewish state and perhaps destroying that community. But they lost; and one of the results was the displacement of 700,000 of them from their homes.

on the local level, in dozens of localities around Palestine, Arab leaders advised or ordered the evacuation of women and children or whole communities, as occurred in Haifa in late April, 1948. And Haifa's Jewish mayor, Shabtai Levy, did, on April 22nd, plead with them to stay, to no avail.

Most of Palestine's 700,000 "refugees" fled their homes because of the flail of war (and in the expectation that they would shortly return to their homes on the backs of victorious Arab invaders). But it is also true that there were several dozen sites, including Lydda and Ramla, from which Arab communities were expelled by Jewish troops.

The displacement of the 700,000 Arabs who became "refugees" - and I put the term in inverted commas, as two-thirds of them were displaced from one part of Palestine to another and not from their country (which is the usual definition of a refugee) - was not a racist crime but the result of a national conflict and a war, with religious overtones, from the Muslim perspective, launched by the Arabs themselves.

There was no Zionist "plan" or blanket policy of evicting the Arab population, or of "ethnic cleansing".

1948 - Morris, Benny - Yale University Press

 

[georgephillip]

"Thus, nobody was dispossessed...

Then you quote Benny Morris who "knows better":

"In defiance of the will of the international community...they launched hostilities against the Jewish community in Palestine...But they lost; and one of the results was the displacement of 700,000 of them from their homes."

Which is it?

Nobody was displaced?

Or 700,000 were displaced from their homes?

You and Benny also conveniently "forget" how the Jews had been waging civil war against Arabs in Palestine for almost six months BEFORE UNGAR 181 was declared.

btw, are General Assembly Resolutions binding?

Now you know why Jew rhymes with lose.

 

[georgephillip]

Over a five year period that saw 97 cases of Palestinian complaints of damage to their (mostly) olive trees not one single perpetrator has been convicted.

"In an examination of around 100 Palestinian complaints of damage to their trees, Yesh Din researchers found that the police investigations did not result in a single indictment, with cases closed on grounds of insufficient evidence or 'unknown perpetrator.'

Conducted over a five-year period, the study tracked 97 cases where trees were vandalised, most of them olive trees, the group said.

"'Not a single one of the monitored 97 cases under police investigation has yielded an indictment against those suspected of involvement in vandalising Palestinian-owned trees,' said Yesh Din (Volunteers for Human Rights)."

"Annual figures compiled by Yesh Din about complaints of settler offences against Palestinians have repeatedly shown that nine out of 10 police investigations fail to lead to a prosecution."

Settler Damage

 

[Marc39]

Over a five year period that saw 97 cases of Palestinian complaints of damage to their (mostly) olive trees not one single perpetrator has been convicted.

Over a 4 year period, sub-human Pestilinians murdered 1000 Israelis and wounded 6000 more, the equivalent of Americans killed in the Viet Name war.

Pulitzer Prize winning writer George Will...

In the intifada that began in 2000, Palestinian terrorism killed more than 1,000 Israelis. As a portion of U.S. population, that would be 42,000, approaching the toll of America's eight years in Vietnam. During the onslaught, which began 10 Septembers ago, Israeli parents sending two children to a school would put them on separate buses to decrease the chance that neither would return for dinner. Surely most Americans can imagine, even if their tone-deaf leaders cannot, how grating it is when those leaders lecture Israel on the need to take "risks for peace."

George F. Will - Skip the lecture on Israel's 'risks for peace'

 

[P F Tinmore]

Over a five year period that saw 97 cases of Palestinian complaints of damage to their (mostly) olive trees not one single perpetrator has been convicted.

Over a 4 year period, sub-human Pestilinians murdered 1000 Israelis and wounded 6000 more, the equivalent of Americans killed in the Viet Name war.

Pulitzer Prize winning writer George Will...

In the intifada that began in 2000, Palestinian terrorism killed more than 1,000 Israelis. As a portion of U.S. population, that would be 42,000, approaching the toll of America's eight years in Vietnam. During the onslaught, which began 10 Septembers ago, Israeli parents sending two children to a school would put them on separate buses to decrease the chance that neither would return for dinner. Surely most Americans can imagine, even if their tone-deaf leaders cannot, how grating it is when those leaders lecture Israel on the need to take "risks for peace."

George F. Will - Skip the lecture on Israel's 'risks for peace'

Interesting legal question. Is the attack on illegal aliens who occupy your country by military force legal or illegal?

 

[Marc39]

Over a five year period that saw 97 cases of Palestinian complaints of damage to their (mostly) olive trees not one single perpetrator has been convicted.

Over a 4 year period, sub-human Pestilinians murdered 1000 Israelis and wounded 6000 more, the equivalent of Americans killed in the Viet Name war.

Pulitzer Prize winning writer George Will...

In the intifada that began in 2000, Palestinian terrorism killed more than 1,000 Israelis. As a portion of U.S. population, that would be 42,000, approaching the toll of America's eight years in Vietnam. During the onslaught, which began 10 Septembers ago, Israeli parents sending two children to a school would put them on separate buses to decrease the chance that neither would return for dinner. Surely most Americans can imagine, even if their tone-deaf leaders cannot, how grating it is when those leaders lecture Israel on the need to take "risks for peace."

George F. Will - Skip the lecture on Israel's 'risks for peace'

Interesting legal question. Is the attack on illegal aliens who occupy your country by military force legal or illegal?

The "country" the entire world community recognized was inhabited by Jews for thousands of years before Arabs invaded from Arabia.

Open a book, high school dropout.

League of Nations...

Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country

The Avalon Project : The Palestine Mandate

 

[georgephillip]

"Had the Zionist leadership admitted the existence of an indigenous people, then they would have been obliged to explain how they intended to displace them.

"To disprove this baseless myth, let's quote Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister) who stated as early as 1918 that 'Palestine is not an empty country'.

"According to Shabtai Teveth (one of Ben-Gurion's official biographers), Ben-Gurion stated in an article published in 1918 that:

"Palestine is not an empty country . . . on no account must we injure the rights of the inhabitants."

'Think David made any money from injuring the rights of Palestinians?

More lies the Rich tell.

Isn't it true...

 

[Marc39]

"Had the Zionist leadership admitted the existence of an indigenous people, then they would have been obliged to explain how they intended to displace them.

Jews are the indigenous people of Judea, the correct historical geographic name of Palestine. "Jewish" is derived from Judea.

Arabs are indigenous to Arabia. Arab=Arabia.

Millions of Arabs flooded into Judea as recently as the 1940s in order to sponge off of Jews.

British Palestine Royal Commission...

The Arab population shows a remarkable increase since 1920, and it has had some share in the increased prosperity of Palestine [brought about by Jews]. Many Arab landowners have benefited from the sale of land [to Jews] and the profitable investment of the purchase money. The fellaheen are better off on the whole than they were in 1920. This Arab progress has been partly due to the import of Jewish capital into Palestine and other factors associated with the growth of the National Home. In particular, the Arabs have benefited from social services which could not have been provided on the existing scale without the revenue obtained from the Jews.
The shortage of land is due less to purchase by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population. The Arab claims that the Jews have obtained too large a proportion of good land cannot be maintained. Much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamps and uncultivated when it was bought.

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[georgephillip]

What was the Arab population of Palestine in 1918?

How many Jews called Palestine home in the same year?

 

[Marc39]

What was the Arab population of Palestine in 1918?

The Arab population that migrated to "Judea," where Jews were the indigenous population, from Arabia.

Jews should have kicked the sand rats back to Arabia where they belong.

 

[georgephillip]

Did you learn that at "Princeton"?