Obama's College Classmate: ‘The Obama Scandal Is at Columbia’

[Si modo]

I'll continue one of my previous hypothetical situations:

Romney has made the claim that he spent that time in Europe doing missionary work, so he's the one who has to back it up. Until then, I don't have any reason not to believe that he spent that time gambling and whoring in Bratislava.

I guess if missionary work done in 1966 is all that pertinent to the job, then yeah, you sure can believe that. So can I.

I wouldn't care.

I DO care that Obama provide the most basic docs for a professional job - transcripts - ESPECIALLY one where that was his selling point.

I don't hire anyone without transcripts. And, when I worked for the US government, they would never hire me without transcripts. He works for the US government...

Well, he works for ALL Americans, not just Democrats.

The question of whether or not Obama should release his college records is not what I'm talking about.

I see nothing wrong about asking Obama to release his college records - not that I think he should, or will.

It boils down to politics - is it in Obama's best interest, election-wise, to release his college records? Will it cause a net gain in votes?

The answer is No, of course. It's a no-win situation for him, which is exactly why that particular talking point has been pushed so far, and why he can't, and won't respond to it.

It sure is politics.

He got a pass not being vetted last election....don't know why, exactly....maybe just the fact that he wasn't Bush.

That's not going to work, this time. Folks are demanding that the non-vetted POTUS finally be vetted.

If he thinks resisting such a thing is going to win those "he's not Bush" votes again, then good luck to him. No one ever said politics isn't gambling. So, let's see what gamble he takes.

I wouldn't advise it. But, I doubt he would listen to me.

 

[8537]

Why is it even legal for him to seal these records?!?! He's the fucking President of the United States - we have a right to know ALL of the facts so we don't elect a radical marxist like we did.

The fact that NOBODY at Columbia ever heard of him is earth shattering. This man was NOT a US citizen, and I'm betting there is proof in those records.

All college records are confidential and sealed, as they should be. That's the law.

Exactly what do you think is in his college records that proves he's a "Marxist"? (A "Marxist" being anyone who doesn't think we should feed Poor People to Dressage Horses, apparently.)

Honestly, right wing crap I wrote in college I would be genuinely embarrased by now. "OH, Jesus, did I write that. I was really full of it back then." (I'm only a year younger than the President, BTW).

Mitt, on the other hand, has offered his business stewardship as his main qualification. Except he's being shifty on parts of it. WHen did he leave Bain? What Bain decisions was he involved in? How much would he personally benefit from tax laws he's advocating? His tax records would answer a lot of those questions, and the fact he isn't doing what Republican and Democratic contenders have done for years (including his own father) indicates he doesn't like those answers.

Joe, can you show me a Presidential candidate in the last 30 years that DIDN'T release their college records OTHER than Obama?

And again, it's not about what he did or didn't write, it's about who he said he was at the time. Did he get aid as a foreign student? I think he did, and that is FRAUD!

If they all did so, I'd be interested in seeing someone post Bush's transcripts from both Harvard and Yale as well as Dole's.

And Clinton's.

And Gores.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I guess if missionary work done in 1966 is all that pertinent to the job, then yeah, you sure can believe that. So can I.

I wouldn't care.

I DO care that Obama provide the most basic docs for a professional job - transcripts - ESPECIALLY one where that was his selling point.

I don't hire anyone without transcripts. And, when I worked for the US government, they would never hire me without transcripts. He works for the US government...

Well, he works for ALL Americans, not just Democrats.

The question of whether or not Obama should release his college records is not what I'm talking about.

I see nothing wrong about asking Obama to release his college records - not that I think he should, or will.

It boils down to politics - is it in Obama's best interest, election-wise, to release his college records? Will it cause a net gain in votes?

The answer is No, of course. It's a no-win situation for him, which is exactly why that particular talking point has been pushed so far, and why he can't, and won't respond to it.

It sure is politics.

He got a pass not being vetted last election....don't know why, exactly....maybe just the fact that he wasn't Bush.

That's not going to work, this time. Folks are demanding that the non-vetted POTUS finally be vetted.

If he thinks resisting such a thing is going to win those "he's not Bush" votes again, then good luck to him. No one ever said politics isn't gambling. So, let's see what gamble he takes.

I wouldn't advise it. But, I doubt he would listen to me.

The only people demanding to see Obama's college records aren't going to vote for him anyway.

 

[francoHFW]

Pure BS from well known, totally discredited Pubcrappemeister. Fit only for tinfoil Pub dupes.

 

[Si modo]

The question of whether or not Obama should release his college records is not what I'm talking about.

I see nothing wrong about asking Obama to release his college records - not that I think he should, or will.

It boils down to politics - is it in Obama's best interest, election-wise, to release his college records? Will it cause a net gain in votes?

The answer is No, of course. It's a no-win situation for him, which is exactly why that particular talking point has been pushed so far, and why he can't, and won't respond to it.

It sure is politics.

He got a pass not being vetted last election....don't know why, exactly....maybe just the fact that he wasn't Bush.

That's not going to work, this time. Folks are demanding that the non-vetted POTUS finally be vetted.

If he thinks resisting such a thing is going to win those "he's not Bush" votes again, then good luck to him. No one ever said politics isn't gambling. So, let's see what gamble he takes.

I wouldn't advise it. But, I doubt he would listen to me.

The only people demanding to see Obama's college records aren't going to vote for him anyway.

Don't know about that. As I said, if he thinks he can still get the "he's not Bush" votes that won the election for him last time, then sure.

At this point, that novelty is beyond stale.

 

[freedombecki]

Here is the real truth of why Dirty Harry will outright lie about Romney, as if anyone with half a brain didn't already know.

Obama's College Classmate: ‘The Obama Scandal Is at Columbia’

Root: Obama

By attacking Romney’s tax records, Obama’s socialist cabal creates a problem that doesn’t exist. Is the U.S. Senate Majority Leader making up stories out of thin air? You decide. But the reason for this baseless attack is clear- make Romney defend, so not only is he “off message” but it helps the media ignore the real Obama scandal.

Wow, the chairman of the Libertarian party attacking Obama. Who knew?

And what does that other famous Libertarian Presidential nominee say?

Mitt Romney holds fundraiser with manufacturer of the Abortion Pill | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution

Ah, so many enemies, so little time...

 

[freedombecki]

Pure BS from well known, totally discredited Pubcrappemeister. Fit only for tinfoil Pub dupes.

Freedombecki's unspin machine interpretation: OMG, conservatives really are winning. - the sky is falling - How many 4-letter words can I cram into one insult? /spin

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, can you show me a Presidential candidate in the last 30 years that DIDN'T release their college records OTHER than Obama?

And again, it's not about what he did or didn't write, it's about who he said he was at the time. Did he get aid as a foreign student? I think he did, and that is FRAUD!

How about Reagan? Can you find his transcripts on line? I just tried and couldn't.


Another of those personal anecdotes that drive people crazy. When I was involved in student politics at UIC in the 1980's, we were in the middle of a dispute with the language departments about what the requirement should be.

My language in college was German, and I thoroughly sucked at it. It's a tough language, but I thought I'd have an easy time of it because my Dad was fluent, but then he went up and died of lung cancer in 1981. So I really struggled with it, and even though I got A's and B's in my major and minor (History and PolSci) I got C's and D's in German.

Well, heaven forbid some student tells them that a year of languages you'll never use again is enough. They had their 2 year requirement keeping them all in jobs, and they weren't going to let some peasent student tell them. So they tried to leak my grades to the Student Newspaper.

Didn't work. The Newspaper tipped me off this happened, and when I confronted the Dean of Student Affairs, a formal apology was issued.

Now, I was really nothing more than a loud mouth kid in college. Do you really think if there was something truly damning in Obama's College transcripts, someone would have leaked them by now?

 

[GuyPinestra]

All college records are confidential and sealed, as they should be. That's the law.

Exactly what do you think is in his college records that proves he's a "Marxist"? (A "Marxist" being anyone who doesn't think we should feed Poor People to Dressage Horses, apparently.)

Honestly, right wing crap I wrote in college I would be genuinely embarrased by now. "OH, Jesus, did I write that. I was really full of it back then." (I'm only a year younger than the President, BTW).

Mitt, on the other hand, has offered his business stewardship as his main qualification. Except he's being shifty on parts of it. WHen did he leave Bain? What Bain decisions was he involved in? How much would he personally benefit from tax laws he's advocating? His tax records would answer a lot of those questions, and the fact he isn't doing what Republican and Democratic contenders have done for years (including his own father) indicates he doesn't like those answers.

Joe, can you show me a Presidential candidate in the last 30 years that DIDN'T release their college records OTHER than Obama?

And again, it's not about what he did or didn't write, it's about who he said he was at the time. Did he get aid as a foreign student? I think he did, and that is FRAUD!

If they all did so, I'd be interested in seeing someone post Bush's transcripts from both Harvard and Yale as well as Dole's.

And Clinton's.

And Gores.

Your request, minus Clinton, is available here... Dig this: Media actually probed other candidates

 

[theDoctorisIn]

It sure is politics.

He got a pass not being vetted last election....don't know why, exactly....maybe just the fact that he wasn't Bush.

That's not going to work, this time. Folks are demanding that the non-vetted POTUS finally be vetted.

If he thinks resisting such a thing is going to win those "he's not Bush" votes again, then good luck to him. No one ever said politics isn't gambling. So, let's see what gamble he takes.

I wouldn't advise it. But, I doubt he would listen to me.

The only people demanding to see Obama's college records aren't going to vote for him anyway.

Don't know about that. As I said, if he thinks he can still get the "he's not Bush" votes that won the election for him last time, then sure.

At this point, that novelty is beyond stale.

It's late in the cycle. 90% of Americans have already made a decision as to who they're planning to vote for.

How many people in that 10% do you think care about his college records?

Do you think releasing his records will cause anyone to change their vote to him?

 

[Lakhota]

Q: Are Obama’s early records “sealed”?

A: No. Many records that presidential candidates don’t ordinarily release do remain confidential, but they are not “sealed” by a court. The 16 claims in a widely distributed graphic are mostly false or distorted.

FactCheck.org : Obama’s ‘Sealed’ Records

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, can you show me a Presidential candidate in the last 30 years that DIDN'T release their college records OTHER than Obama?

And again, it's not about what he did or didn't write, it's about who he said he was at the time. Did he get aid as a foreign student? I think he did, and that is FRAUD!

If they all did so, I'd be interested in seeing someone post Bush's transcripts from both Harvard and Yale as well as Dole's.

And Clinton's.

And Gores.

Your request, minus Clinton, is available here... Dig this: Media actually probed other candidates

Not a one of these had a full transcript... Some didn't mention transcripts at all...

 

[Si modo]

The only people demanding to see Obama's college records aren't going to vote for him anyway.

Don't know about that. As I said, if he thinks he can still get the "he's not Bush" votes that won the election for him last time, then sure.

At this point, that novelty is beyond stale.

It's late in the cycle. 90% of Americans have already made a decision as to who they're planning to vote for.

How many people in that 10% do you think care about his college records?

Do you think releasing his records will cause anyone to change their vote to him?

In a tight race, 10% is everything. Hell, 1% is everything.

Personally, I know the transcripts issue is not going away. The opposition is not going to let that one slide.....again. So, the issue is probably not so much the content of the transcripts, but the principle of his releasing them....willingness to actually BE vetted this time.

It's a gamble. You'll bet on the ball falling on red, and I'll bet on it falling on black and the pot is unknown....

What Obama bets on remains to be seen.

But, this is not going away.

 

[GuyPinestra]

The only people demanding to see Obama's college records aren't going to vote for him anyway.

Don't know about that. As I said, if he thinks he can still get the "he's not Bush" votes that won the election for him last time, then sure.

At this point, that novelty is beyond stale.

It's late in the cycle. 90% of Americans have already made a decision as to who they're planning to vote for.

How many people in that 10% do you think care about his college records?

Do you think releasing his records will cause anyone to change their vote to him?

I think releasing his records will expose him as someone who lied about his birthplace to get scholastic aid, a felony.

Or he got the aid legitimately as a foreign student and lied to get elected President.

 

[GuyPinestra]

If they all did so, I'd be interested in seeing someone post Bush's transcripts from both Harvard and Yale as well as Dole's.

And Clinton's.

And Gores.

Your request, minus Clinton, is available here... Dig this: Media actually probed other candidates

Not a one of these had a full transcript... Some didn't mention transcripts at all...

The full transcripts were 'not available online.' I think you'll find most of them available in their respective Presidential libraries.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Don't know about that. As I said, if he thinks he can still get the "he's not Bush" votes that won the election for him last time, then sure.

At this point, that novelty is beyond stale.

It's late in the cycle. 90% of Americans have already made a decision as to who they're planning to vote for.

How many people in that 10% do you think care about his college records?

Do you think releasing his records will cause anyone to change their vote to him?

I think releasing his records will expose him as someone who lied about his birthplace to get scholastic aid, a felony.

Or he got the aid legitimately as a foreign student and lied to get elected President.

You "think" that?

Why?

What else does your magic crystal ball tell you?

 

[earthling01]

Romney is scared to death of releasing his tax records afraid that people will see the real man behind the lies. It would be political suicide to do so.

I seriously doubt the claims that Obama was a foreign student at Harvard. He would have both a foreign passport and an I-20 issued by the U.S Customs Office. Something that huge would be too conspicuous to cover up. It would have undoubtedly leaked out by now.

 

[Si modo]

Don't know about that. As I said, if he thinks he can still get the "he's not Bush" votes that won the election for him last time, then sure.

At this point, that novelty is beyond stale.

It's late in the cycle. 90% of Americans have already made a decision as to who they're planning to vote for.

How many people in that 10% do you think care about his college records?

Do you think releasing his records will cause anyone to change their vote to him?

I think releasing his records will expose him as someone who lied about his birthplace to get scholastic aid, a felony.

Or he got the aid legitimately as a foreign student and lied to get elected President.

Well, I don't believe those are the only two options, but if he DOESN'T release them and if this doesn't go away, yeah....I bet a lot will think that way, too. At least enough..........

That is why this is not going away. He has to figure out which is more damaging. The content of the transcripts or the belief of what the unreleased content shows.

Politics and gambling. This won't go away.

 

[earthling01]

Not "Harvard", should have typed "Columbia" above.
My bad!

 

[GuyPinestra]

It's late in the cycle. 90% of Americans have already made a decision as to who they're planning to vote for.

How many people in that 10% do you think care about his college records?

Do you think releasing his records will cause anyone to change their vote to him?

I think releasing his records will expose him as someone who lied about his birthplace to get scholastic aid, a felony.

Or he got the aid legitimately as a foreign student and lied to get elected President.

You "think" that?

Why?

What else does your magic crystal ball tell you?

Because nothing less explains the need to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on attorneys to keep them private.

Personally, I think he scammed the system for the foreign aid money myself...