Obama Should Resign

[Sallow]

While he's let

Let me get this straight

Is that a plea for redistribution of wealth?

You're letting your imagination run away with you....AGAIN, Ground Control to rightwinger, time to land back here on Earth.

Besides the Obama Administration is already doing a wonderful job of wealth redistribution, they've been redistributing it from the bottom and the middle up to the top, typical progressive economic policies.

Pfftt.

That's ridiculous.

Reagan and George W. Bush are completely responsible for that.

Yeah er..um....did you get stuck in a time warp or something? Gimme a call when you join the rest of us in 2015, k?

I have.

Both Reagan and George W. Bush cut the tax top rates. Additionally Ronald Reagan cut regulations in the financial industry like crazy. Bush changed both Bankruptcy and overtime rules.

Both Reagan and Bush were responsible for multiple financial/banking industry meltdowns that required tax payer bailouts.

The only thing that Obama may have done "wrong" was to whiff on indicting the folks that caused the crisis. But doing so would have made things worse initially and guaranteed that he would be a one term President.

Other than that? He's done a splendid job of saving the financial/banking/insurance and automotive industries.

While he's dropped wages for the middle class (to the point that half the country is on government assistance)...

And the Democrats are screaming for even more "free shit"...

Feel free to illustrate how that happened.

Because it was during the BUSH administration that tens of thousands of factories moved from our shores to overseas.

 

[Sallow]

Let me get this straight

Is that a plea for redistribution of wealth?

You're letting your imagination run away with you....AGAIN, Ground Control to rightwinger, time to land back here on Earth.

Besides the Obama Administration is already doing a wonderful job of wealth redistribution, they've been redistributing it from the bottom and the middle up to the top, typical progressive economic policies.

Pfftt.

That's ridiculous.

Reagan and George W. Bush are completely responsible for that.

Yeah er..um....did you get stuck in a time warp or something? Gimme a call when you join the rest of us in 2015, k?

I have.

Both Reagan and George W. Bush cut the tax top rates. Additionally Ronald Reagan cut regulations in the financial industry like crazy. Bush changed both Bankruptcy and overtime rules.

Both Reagan and Bush were responsible for multiple financial/banking industry meltdowns that required tax payer bailouts.

The only thing that Obama may have done "wrong" was to whiff on indicting the folks that caused the crisis. But doing so would have made things worse initially and guaranteed that he would be a one term President.

Other than that? He's done a splendid job of saving the financial/banking/insurance and automotive industries.

Because a funny graphic always makes a brilliant rebuttal when you got nothing.

Enjoy:

 

[Political Junky]

But not for the reason people think.
Imagine if he came out and said, I've done everything I can here. I am no longer effective in my job. Therefore I hand over the reins to VP Biden, who will carry my agenda forward.
Simulataneously Biden announces he is running.
WHOOSH! Hillary is out of the field, Democrats are running an incumbent president for re-election. It would be a winner for the Democrats.

Good luck with your fantasy life.

 

[Obiwan]

While he's let

You're letting your imagination run away with you....AGAIN, Ground Control to rightwinger, time to land back here on Earth.

Besides the Obama Administration is already doing a wonderful job of wealth redistribution, they've been redistributing it from the bottom and the middle up to the top, typical progressive economic policies.

Pfftt.

That's ridiculous.

Reagan and George W. Bush are completely responsible for that.

Yeah er..um....did you get stuck in a time warp or something? Gimme a call when you join the rest of us in 2015, k?

I have.

Both Reagan and George W. Bush cut the tax top rates. Additionally Ronald Reagan cut regulations in the financial industry like crazy. Bush changed both Bankruptcy and overtime rules.

Both Reagan and Bush were responsible for multiple financial/banking industry meltdowns that required tax payer bailouts.

The only thing that Obama may have done "wrong" was to whiff on indicting the folks that caused the crisis. But doing so would have made things worse initially and guaranteed that he would be a one term President.

Other than that? He's done a splendid job of saving the financial/banking/insurance and automotive industries.

While he's dropped wages for the middle class (to the point that half the country is on government assistance)...

And the Democrats are screaming for even more "free shit"...

Feel free to illustrate how that happened.

Because it was during the BUSH administration that tens of thousands of factories moved from our shores to overseas.

And it's gotten a lot worse under Obozo...

We need to get the IDIOT DEMOCRATS out of Washington...

Then we need to tell you lazy fucks to get a job and buy your own damn shit.

 

[Sallow]

While he's let

Pfftt.

That's ridiculous.

Reagan and George W. Bush are completely responsible for that.

Yeah er..um....did you get stuck in a time warp or something? Gimme a call when you join the rest of us in 2015, k?

I have.

Both Reagan and George W. Bush cut the tax top rates. Additionally Ronald Reagan cut regulations in the financial industry like crazy. Bush changed both Bankruptcy and overtime rules.

Both Reagan and Bush were responsible for multiple financial/banking industry meltdowns that required tax payer bailouts.

The only thing that Obama may have done "wrong" was to whiff on indicting the folks that caused the crisis. But doing so would have made things worse initially and guaranteed that he would be a one term President.

Other than that? He's done a splendid job of saving the financial/banking/insurance and automotive industries.

While he's dropped wages for the middle class (to the point that half the country is on government assistance)...

And the Democrats are screaming for even more "free shit"...

Feel free to illustrate how that happened.

Because it was during the BUSH administration that tens of thousands of factories moved from our shores to overseas.

And it's gotten a lot worse under Obozo...

We need to get the IDIOT DEMOCRATS out of Washington...

Then we need to tell you lazy fucks to get a job and buy your own damn shit.

Again.

Illustrate what happened.

Like:

1. This happened.
2. That happened.
3. And as a result, this happened.

I'll give you an example -

1. Bush saw that we had a "surplus" so he thought it was a grand time to cut taxes for the top 1% as a "stimulus" for "the dot com" bust that had already righted itself.
2. The tax cut caused a massive deficit.

Your turn.

 

[charwin95]

A potted plant could beat this crop of GOP candidates.

The Dems have a bunch of white people who could collect Social Security and not much more.

Your girl friend may not like that bc she will not be able to pay the rent of her trailer.

 

[NightFox]

Because a funny graphic always makes a brilliant rebuttal when you got nothing.

Enjoy:

Your line of reasoning on this one is so ridiculous it doesn't deserve much more, just for your edification there were in fact Democrats in Washington BEFORE 2009, the President can blame economic problems on his predecessor for a year or two but after that he has to take responsibility (else he gets laughed at) and he certainly doesn't get to blame the problems on a Dead President that was out of office for 20 years. Lastly your obsession with President George Gunslinger Bush is unhealthy, you should get over it already.

Now if you're through traveling through space at ludicrous speed we can (hopefully) get back to a rational discussion.

 

[Obiwan]

While he's let

Yeah er..um....did you get stuck in a time warp or something? Gimme a call when you join the rest of us in 2015, k?

I have.

Both Reagan and George W. Bush cut the tax top rates. Additionally Ronald Reagan cut regulations in the financial industry like crazy. Bush changed both Bankruptcy and overtime rules.

Both Reagan and Bush were responsible for multiple financial/banking industry meltdowns that required tax payer bailouts.

The only thing that Obama may have done "wrong" was to whiff on indicting the folks that caused the crisis. But doing so would have made things worse initially and guaranteed that he would be a one term President.

Other than that? He's done a splendid job of saving the financial/banking/insurance and automotive industries.

While he's dropped wages for the middle class (to the point that half the country is on government assistance)...

And the Democrats are screaming for even more "free shit"...

Feel free to illustrate how that happened.

Because it was during the BUSH administration that tens of thousands of factories moved from our shores to overseas.

And it's gotten a lot worse under Obozo...

We need to get the IDIOT DEMOCRATS out of Washington...

Then we need to tell you lazy fucks to get a job and buy your own damn shit.

Again.

Illustrate what happened.

Like:

1. This happened.
2. That happened.
3. And as a result, this happened.

I'll give you an example -

1. Bush saw that we had a "surplus" so he thought it was a grand time to cut taxes for the top 1% as a "stimulus" for "the dot com" bust that had already righted itself.
2. The tax cut caused a massive deficit.

Your turn.

Obama's "recovery" consisted of "bullshit" jobs, compounded by the fact that a lot of employers CUT hours to avoid paying for his bullshit healthcare plan...
Real Household Incomes Fall 5.9% Under Obama - Breitbart

The net result was the worst "recovery" in modern history...

Get real.. We had a recession starting when Bush took office (dot.com bubble) and a building housing bubble (thanks to Clinton), and the recovery was a lot better.

 

[rdean]

What is it Republicans think they would do in the White House after the disaster they left the last time?

They'd just create another disaster, just like the Democrats do when they manage to hoodwink the voters into letting one of theirs sit in the Oval Office.

It's an endless cycle of partisan idiocy, not that I don't find all the fun and games entertaining but it would be nice if we could get somebody that was half way competent just for a change of pace.

What are you talking about?

 

[rdean]

While he's let

I have.

Both Reagan and George W. Bush cut the tax top rates. Additionally Ronald Reagan cut regulations in the financial industry like crazy. Bush changed both Bankruptcy and overtime rules.

Both Reagan and Bush were responsible for multiple financial/banking industry meltdowns that required tax payer bailouts.

The only thing that Obama may have done "wrong" was to whiff on indicting the folks that caused the crisis. But doing so would have made things worse initially and guaranteed that he would be a one term President.

Other than that? He's done a splendid job of saving the financial/banking/insurance and automotive industries.

While he's dropped wages for the middle class (to the point that half the country is on government assistance)...

And the Democrats are screaming for even more "free shit"...

Feel free to illustrate how that happened.

Because it was during the BUSH administration that tens of thousands of factories moved from our shores to overseas.

And it's gotten a lot worse under Obozo...

We need to get the IDIOT DEMOCRATS out of Washington...

Then we need to tell you lazy fucks to get a job and buy your own damn shit.

Again.

Illustrate what happened.

Like:

1. This happened.
2. That happened.
3. And as a result, this happened.

I'll give you an example -

1. Bush saw that we had a "surplus" so he thought it was a grand time to cut taxes for the top 1% as a "stimulus" for "the dot com" bust that had already righted itself.
2. The tax cut caused a massive deficit.

Your turn.

Obama's "recovery" consisted of "bullshit" jobs, compounded by the fact that a lot of employers CUT hours to avoid paying for his bullshit healthcare plan...
Real Household Incomes Fall 5.9% Under Obama - Breitbart

The net result was the worst "recovery" in modern history...

Get real.. We had a recession starting when Bush took office (dot.com bubble) and a building housing bubble (thanks to Clinton), and the recovery was a lot better.

With a GOP house and Senate fighting every thing he does. You know that, right?

 

[Sallow]

Because a funny graphic always makes a brilliant rebuttal when you got nothing.

Enjoy:

Your line of reasoning on this one is so ridiculous it doesn't deserve much more, just for your edification there were in fact Democrats in Washington BEFORE 2009, the President can blame economic problems on his predecessor for a year or two but after that he has to take responsibility (else he gets laughed at) and he certainly doesn't get to blame the problems on a Dead President that was out of office for 20 years. Lastly your obsession with President George Gunslinger Bush is unhealthy, you should get over it already.

Now if you're through traveling through space at ludicrous speed we can (hopefully) get back to a rational discussion.

Well no. It's not "ridiculous".

It's the President that sets policy and signs bills into law. "The Democrats in congress" meme is the ridiculous one.

And essentially we've got a government crafted such that the "minority" has a good deal of power.

Reagan initiated supply side economics in the 80s. He cut the top tax rates, cut regulations across the board, broke the air traffic controller union (and basically drastically reduced the power of labor), spent wildly on expensively and useless military programs (like SDI) oversaw huge deficits and several financial cataclysms that required huge bailouts. Before leaving office he RAISED taxes on the poor and the middle class. He brought in brand spanking new taxes on TIPS and unemployment insurance. This is the history.

And while Vice President Bush was fiscally wiser, his SON Neil Bush oversaw one of the worst bank failures in history, Silverado savings and loan. It wasn't until President Clinton was elected that some of that got cleaned up. President Clinton is not entirely innocent, however, as he did sign into law the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act which repealed a major component of the Glass-Steagall act that separated financials and commercial banks. But he was able to raise the tax rates a bit on the top earners and bring down the deficit. That's in addition to essentially creating the telecommunications infrastructure and advancing the Information technology sector in this country.

Enter George W. Bush, who cut top rates, defunded regulators, looked the other way at the Enron/Anderson debacle, presided over a loss of our manufacturing base, started 2 very expensive wars, put into place new entitlements with no way to pay for them and left office in the midst of yet another conservative engineered financial cataclysm requiring massive tax payer bailouts. This took two terms to do. Generally it's much easier to destroy than rebuild. And rebuilding is what President Obama engaged in and in the face of historic obstruction.

Conservative policy has always been ruinous in this country.

 

[NightFox]

Well no. It's not "ridiculous".

No need for that, I was already aware the you would never recognize how ridiculous your line of reasoning was.

It's the President that sets policy and signs bills into law. "The Democrats in congress" meme is the ridiculous one.

Learn how to read will you , I said Democrats in WASHINGTON before 2009, not "The Democrats in congress" ....

And essentially we've got a government crafted such that the "minority" has a good deal of power.

Reagan initiated supply side economics in the 80s. He cut the top tax rates, cut regulations across the board, broke the air traffic controller union (and basically drastically reduced the power of labor), spent wildly on expensively and useless military programs (like SDI) oversaw huge deficits and several financial cataclysms that required huge bailouts. Before leaving office he RAISED taxes on the poor and the middle class. He brought in brand spanking new taxes on TIPS and unemployment insurance. This is the history.

And while Vice President Bush was fiscally wiser, his SON Neil Bush oversaw one of the worst bank failures in history, Silverado savings and loan. It wasn't until President Clinton was elected that some of that got cleaned up. President Clinton is not entirely innocent, however, as he did sign into law the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act which repealed a major component of the Glass-Steagall act that separated financials and commercial banks. But he was able to raise the tax rates a bit on the top earners and bring down the deficit. That's in addition to essentially creating the telecommunications infrastructure and advancing the Information technology sector in this country.

Enter George W. Bush, who cut top rates, defunded regulators, looked the other way at the Enron/Anderson debacle, presided over a loss of our manufacturing base, started 2 very expensive wars, put into place new entitlements with no way to pay for them and left office in the midst of yet another conservative engineered financial cataclysm requiring massive tax payer bailouts. This took two terms to do. Generally it's much easier to destroy than rebuild. And rebuilding is what President Obama engaged in and in the face of historic obstruction.

Conservative policy has always been ruinous in this country.

So in nutshell your thesis seems to be that all economics problems from now until the end of time are the fault of policies implemented by Reagan and Bush II, any economic successes of course will be credited to whatever Democrat is the flavor of the month (currently President Obama) and that no Democratic President need ever take responsibility for structural issues within the economy since Reagan and Bush basically made them unfixable. It's telling that you completely ignore monetary policy during the periods you attempt to dissect it's as if you don't recognize the part that monetary policy plays in our economy, you also make no mention of what the Democrats were doing during those two Presidencies it's as if they didn't exist in Washington at all.

We've had 7 years of "progressive" economic and monetary policy and from the perspective of the average American the economy sucks (spare me the stats cherry picking, you can do it, I can do it, but unless you live under a rock (or in Washington D.C.) you know as well as I do the average American is struggling to tread water).

One question, how many terms in office will it take for President Obama to "fix" all the economic problems and return us to the growth rate, job growth and general prosperity we enjoyed say in the mid to late 1980's? will be 5 terms be enough? how about 10?

Take your time and think it through Amigo...

 

[rightwinger]

Well no. It's not "ridiculous".

No need for that, I was already aware the you would never recognize how ridiculous your line of reasoning was.

It's the President that sets policy and signs bills into law. "The Democrats in congress" meme is the ridiculous one.

Learn how to read will you , I said Democrats in WASHINGTON before 2009, not "The Democrats in congress" ....

And essentially we've got a government crafted such that the "minority" has a good deal of power.

Reagan initiated supply side economics in the 80s. He cut the top tax rates, cut regulations across the board, broke the air traffic controller union (and basically drastically reduced the power of labor), spent wildly on expensively and useless military programs (like SDI) oversaw huge deficits and several financial cataclysms that required huge bailouts. Before leaving office he RAISED taxes on the poor and the middle class. He brought in brand spanking new taxes on TIPS and unemployment insurance. This is the history.

And while Vice President Bush was fiscally wiser, his SON Neil Bush oversaw one of the worst bank failures in history, Silverado savings and loan. It wasn't until President Clinton was elected that some of that got cleaned up. President Clinton is not entirely innocent, however, as he did sign into law the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act which repealed a major component of the Glass-Steagall act that separated financials and commercial banks. But he was able to raise the tax rates a bit on the top earners and bring down the deficit. That's in addition to essentially creating the telecommunications infrastructure and advancing the Information technology sector in this country.

Enter George W. Bush, who cut top rates, defunded regulators, looked the other way at the Enron/Anderson debacle, presided over a loss of our manufacturing base, started 2 very expensive wars, put into place new entitlements with no way to pay for them and left office in the midst of yet another conservative engineered financial cataclysm requiring massive tax payer bailouts. This took two terms to do. Generally it's much easier to destroy than rebuild. And rebuilding is what President Obama engaged in and in the face of historic obstruction.

Conservative policy has always been ruinous in this country.

So in nutshell your thesis seems to be that all economics problems from now until the end of time are the fault of policies implemented by Reagan and Bush II, any economic successes of course will be credited to whatever Democrat is the flavor of the month (currently President Obama) and that no Democratic President need ever take responsibility for structural issues within the economy since Reagan and Bush basically made them unfixable. It's telling that you completely ignore monetary policy during the periods you attempt to dissect it's as if you don't recognize the part that monetary policy plays in our economy, you also make no mention of what the Democrats were doing during those two Presidencies it's as if they didn't exist in Washington at all.

We've had 7 years of "progressive" economic and monetary policy and from the perspective of the average American the economy sucks (spare me the stats cherry picking, you can do it, I can do it, but unless you live under a rock (or in Washington D.C.) you know as well as I do the average American is struggling to tread water).

One question, how many terms in office will it take for President Obama to "fix" all the economic problems and return us to the growth rate, job growth and general prosperity we enjoyed say in the mid to late 1980's? will be 5 terms be enough? how about 10?

Take your time and think it through Amigo...

The economic recovery could have been much, much better. We could have invested more in infrastructure, we could have demanded more recovery money went to jobs rather than profit

But we had a GOP hellbent on austerity during a recovery. While millions are looking for jobs......NOW is the time to cut spending

 

[kaz]

I think Obama should run for a third term and challenge the constitutionality of the amendment that prevents him.

He should argue the Constitution is Unconstitutional?

 

[NightFox]

The economic recovery could have been much, much better. We could have invested more in infrastructure, we could have demanded more recovery money went to jobs rather than profit

But we had a GOP hellbent on austerity during a recovery. While millions are looking for jobs......NOW is the time to cut spending

Yeah I know, the good intentions of the halo wearing, angelic Democrats were once again foiled by the pitch fork toting, demonic Republicans, makes for a nice fairy tale but falls somewhat short in the objective analysis department.

Nothing personal, you seem like a nice guy (gal?) but I'm really not interested in partisan pom-pom waiving and "we good, they bad" parroted talking points.

 

[rightwinger]

The economic recovery could have been much, much better. We could have invested more in infrastructure, we could have demanded more recovery money went to jobs rather than profit

But we had a GOP hellbent on austerity during a recovery. While millions are looking for jobs......NOW is the time to cut spending

Yeah I know, the good intentions of the halo wearing, angelic Democrats were once again foiled by the pitch fork toting, demonic Republicans, makes for a nice fairy tale but falls somewhat short in the objective analysis department.

Nothing personal, you seem like a nice guy (gal?) but I'm really not interested in partisan pom-pom waiving and "we good, they bad" parroted talking points.

The behavior of Republicans while the country was trying to recover from an economic collapse of their making as bordering on criminal

The fact that they refused to participate in a recovery being led by a Democrat was one of the saddest piece of placing politics over the needs of our country in history

 

[kaz]

The economic recovery could have been much, much better. We could have invested more in infrastructure, we could have demanded more recovery money went to jobs rather than profit

But we had a GOP hellbent on austerity during a recovery. While millions are looking for jobs......NOW is the time to cut spending

Yeah I know, the good intentions of the halo wearing, angelic Democrats were once again foiled by the pitch fork toting, demonic Republicans, makes for a nice fairy tale but falls somewhat short in the objective analysis department.

Nothing personal, you seem like a nice guy (gal?) but I'm really not interested in partisan pom-pom waiving and "we good, they bad" parroted talking points.

The behavior of Republicans while the country was trying to recover from an economic collapse of their making as bordering on criminal

The fact that they refused to participate in a recovery being led by a Democrat was one of the saddest piece of placing politics over the needs of our country in history

Don't forget how Republicans secretly support ISIS, want grandma to get kicked out of her home and look through medicine cabinets at dinner parties

 

[rightwinger]

The economic recovery could have been much, much better. We could have invested more in infrastructure, we could have demanded more recovery money went to jobs rather than profit

But we had a GOP hellbent on austerity during a recovery. While millions are looking for jobs......NOW is the time to cut spending

Yeah I know, the good intentions of the halo wearing, angelic Democrats were once again foiled by the pitch fork toting, demonic Republicans, makes for a nice fairy tale but falls somewhat short in the objective analysis department.

Nothing personal, you seem like a nice guy (gal?) but I'm really not interested in partisan pom-pom waiving and "we good, they bad" parroted talking points.

The behavior of Republicans while the country was trying to recover from an economic collapse of their making as bordering on criminal

The fact that they refused to participate in a recovery being led by a Democrat was one of the saddest piece of placing politics over the needs of our country in history

Don't forget how Republicans secretly support ISIS, want grandma to get kicked out of her home and look through medicine cabinets at dinner parties

I also don't forget that Republicans supported TARP, stimulus and bailouts to help Bush recover during the economic collapse

But not a single Republicans would support the same things for Obama

 

[NightFox]

The behavior of Republicans while the country was trying to recover from an economic collapse of their making as bordering on criminal

The fact that they refused to participate in a recovery being led by a Democrat was one of the saddest piece of placing politics over the needs of our country in history

That's nice, does the term "broken record" mean anything to you? If you're trying to convince me that the Republican Party is fucked up, don't bother I already agree with you on that point, if you're trying to convince me that the Democratic Party isn't just as fucked up as the GOP is, again don't bother, I rely on reason and evidence not fairy tales.

 

[kaz]

The economic recovery could have been much, much better. We could have invested more in infrastructure, we could have demanded more recovery money went to jobs rather than profit

But we had a GOP hellbent on austerity during a recovery. While millions are looking for jobs......NOW is the time to cut spending

Yeah I know, the good intentions of the halo wearing, angelic Democrats were once again foiled by the pitch fork toting, demonic Republicans, makes for a nice fairy tale but falls somewhat short in the objective analysis department.

Nothing personal, you seem like a nice guy (gal?) but I'm really not interested in partisan pom-pom waiving and "we good, they bad" parroted talking points.

The behavior of Republicans while the country was trying to recover from an economic collapse of their making as bordering on criminal

The fact that they refused to participate in a recovery being led by a Democrat was one of the saddest piece of placing politics over the needs of our country in history

Don't forget how Republicans secretly support ISIS, want grandma to get kicked out of her home and look through medicine cabinets at dinner parties

I also don't forget that Republicans supported TARP, stimulus and bailouts to help Bush recover during the economic collapse

But not a single Republicans would support the same things for Obama

They should have voted against that government waste both times