Obama plans to expand overtime eligibility for millions of workers

[Skull Pilot]

Funny how you use the word slash when you don't even know the pay rates.

Oh but then again you think a smaller than planned increase is a cut so .

You obviously realize that if new overtime regulations were to take effect that you could slash your workers pay and there is probably nothing they can do about it in the current job market

So, why don't you just cut what you pay your employees now?

They obviously have little recourse. If they don't like it...leave

I am talking about a salaried position NOT all hourly positions since the overtime laws for hourly positions have not changed.

I do not authorize any of my hourly employees to work any overtime.

I don't know how many times I have to say it but here we go again.

The reasoning behind a salaried position is that a person given more responsibility than an hourly employee gets a higher salary than he would if he remained hourly with the agreement that he may have to work more than 40 hours. Salaried positions often have better benefits as well (at least mine do such as a better 401 package and 50% paid disability insurance)

I expect my salaried asst mgr to put in anywhere from 42 to 48 hours in a given week.

If you add it all up the benefits that go along with the salaried position outweigh the loss of overtime pay

Now I can't do both the extra benefits AND the overtime so the fucking government is making the choice not the employee.

And you see nothing wrong with that.

I agree

That was the intent of making management employees exempt from the FLSA. It was assumed that they are being compensated in other ways

What has happened is employers other than you have abused FLSA regulations to categorize more employees (above $22k) as managers without providing all the perks and alternative compensation

So once again people are punished for the sins of another.

The new AmeriKa

People actually being compensated for the hours they work is not punishment

No but because of someone else's misdeeds my salaried employee might very well lose the benefits of that position to be put back on hourly pay because as I said I can't do both the increased benefits and the overtime.

Now how many people do think will be affected in the same manner?

IMO if she accepts the salaried position with all it's benefits of her own free will even if it means some overtime without extra compensation it should be her choice not the fucking government's

 

[Skull Pilot]

So once again people are punished for the sins of another. The new AmeriKa

No, the old America, and we are not going to allow you to take us back to it. Management is being punished for its sins.

Sorry Sheep wrong again

If a salaried position is available the it should be the employee's decision whether or not to take the extra pay and benefits that go along with that position in exchange for some overtime without additional compensation not the government's

What will happen is people will either lose some benefits to make up for the overtime that must now be paid and/or lose the salaried position and be put back on hourly wage where one can be denied overtime and even have hours cut during slower times

That's awesome

 

[Skull Pilot]

Of course you can cut someone's pay. And if you are paid hourly and they cut your hours you will be paid less

All you have to do is give them notice that you are doing so.

If I eliminate a salaried position because I will have to pay 4-8 hours of overtime every week I can tell an employee that the salaried position is being eliminated and that he will be getting his old rate and be limited to 40 hours a week.

But nothing is stopping you from doing that right now, is it?

If you want to slash someone's wages, you can do it whether they qualify for OT or not

Funny how you use the word slash when you don't even know the pay rates.

Oh but then again you think a smaller than planned increase is a cut so .

You obviously realize that if new overtime regulations were to take effect that you could slash your workers pay and there is probably nothing they can do about it in the current job market

So, why don't you just cut what you pay your employees now?

They obviously have little recourse. If they don't like it...leave

I am talking about a salaried position NOT all hourly positions since the overtime laws for hourly positions have not changed.

I do not authorize any of my hourly employees to work any overtime.

I don't know how many times I have to say it but here we go again.

The reasoning behind a salaried position is that a person given more responsibility than an hourly employee gets a higher salary than he would if he remained hourly with the agreement that he may have to work more than 40 hours. Salaried positions often have better benefits as well (at least mine do such as a better 401 package and 50% paid disability insurance)

I expect my salaried asst mgr to put in anywhere from 42 to 48 hours in a given week.

If you add it all up the benefits that go along with the salaried position outweigh the loss of overtime pay

Now I can't do both the extra benefits AND the overtime so the fucking government is making the choice not the employee.

And you see nothing wrong with that.

Then, as long as you employ less than 50 people, none of this should apply to you.
Because, as I understand it, the salary threshold for OT is suggested to be 50 or 55.
Bigger companies, with more than 50 employees, are abusing their salary managers.
They keep the hourly employees under 28 to avoid ACA and pile the extra burden on their management

Who are they?

Sorry but sweeping generalizations are meaningless.

Not every company with 50 employees is doing this.

 

[JakeStarkey]

hortysir, very good. It is time for government to regulate the labor field more stringently for workers' safety and wages and salaries. Business has crossed the line, yet again.

 

[Kosh]

hortysir, very good. It is time for government to regulate the labor field more stringently for workers' safety and wages and salaries. Business has crossed the line, yet again.

Says the far left drone!

See even when these drones are proven wrong in their religious dogma, they still peddle it anyway..

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Well, as long as he's throwing the constitution down a rabbit hole, perhaps he can mandate a $40/hour minimum wage and mandatory 26 weeks vacation per year.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Sorry, neo-corporatists. He has the power, and you asked for it because of your wrongful behavior. The employee should always be able to choose between salary and regulated hours or wage and regulated hours. Not management.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Sorry, neo-corporatists. He has the power, and you asked for it because of your wrongful behavior. The employee should always be able to choose between salary and regulated hours or wage and regulated hours. Not management.

Sure, so you leftist nutters shut your pie holes when a conservative comes in and mandates a $2/hr minimum wage and declares abortion and gay marriage illegal.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Won't happen.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Sorry, neo-corporatists. He has the power, and you asked for it because of your wrongful behavior. The employee should always be able to choose between salary and regulated hours or wage and regulated hours. Not management.

They can choose that now.

If they don't like the way an employer treats them can't they get another job after all unemployment is at 5.3% so obviously there are jobs out there

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Obama’s Winning Streak Continues: Economy Adds 12.8 Million Jobs Over 64 Straight Months

President Obama's economy has added 12.8 million private sector jobs over 64 straight months of job growth, extending the longest streak on record. …

 

[boedicca]

Of course, Congressional staff and Hillary's unpaid interns need not apply.....

 

[boedicca]

Obama’s Winning Streak Continues: Economy Adds 12.8 Million Jobs Over 64 Straight Months

President Obama's economy has added 12.8 million private sector jobs over 64 straight months of job growth, extending the longest streak on record. …

That's a lie - I did the math from the BLS source data. The germane statistic is the change in employed people - not counting up a bunch of part time jobs.

 

[Katzndogz]

Obama’s Winning Streak Continues: Economy Adds 12.8 Million Jobs Over 64 Straight Months

President Obama's economy has added 12.8 million private sector jobs over 64 straight months of job growth, extending the longest streak on record. …

At least according to obama.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

The private sector has added 12.8 million jobs over 64 straight months of job growth, extending the longest streak on record. Today we learned that total nonfarm employment rose by 223,000 in June—and all those jobs came from the private sector. Although total job growth was revised down somewhat in April and May, much of the revision is attributable to lower government employment than previously estimated. On the whole, our economy has added 2.9 million new jobs over the past twelve months, near the fifteen-year high achieved in February.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The neo-corporatists have lost out.

Thank God. Read #315 above. If you can't rebut it, shut it.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Obama’s Winning Streak Continues: Economy Adds 12.8 Million Jobs Over 64 Straight Months

President Obama's economy has added 12.8 million private sector jobs over 64 straight months of job growth, extending the longest streak on record. …

Yeah, try again:

David Stockman Says Unemployment Is Really 42.9 Percent

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The neo-corporatists have lost out.

Thank God. Read #315 above. If you can't rebut it, shut it.

Read 317 above. If you can't rebut it, shut it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Sorry, neo-corporatists. He has the power, and you asked for it because of your wrongful behavior. The employee should always be able to choose between salary and regulated hours or wage and regulated hours. Not management.

They can choose that now.

If they don't like the way an employer treats them can't they get another job after all unemployment is at 5.3% so obviously there are jobs out there

Which in no way excuses neo-corporatist mangers and owners from taking advantage of workers, as they are about to find out the hard way.

 

[JakeStarkey]

David Stockman Says Unemployment Is Really 42.9 Percent, which is a raw figure. It means everyone from new born infants to the old, sick, senile, and lame. The figure is worthless, as is the moral character of the individual who offered it.