Obama is a Centrist

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  1. midcan5
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    midcan5 liberal / progressive

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    After the radical conservatism of Cheney/Bush, an Obama/Biden presidency will be one that all Americans can feel part of not just the corporations and the wealthy. Instead of robbing from the poor to give to the corporations and to out sourcing America, an Obama presidency will work to bring the American middle class back, so everyone can feel they have a piece of the pie and the American dream still works.

    The Empiricist Strikes Back by Cass R. Sunstein

    Obama's pragmatism explained.

    "These objections miss the mark. Obama has not betrayed anyone. The real problem lies in the assumption, still widespread on both the left and the right, that Obama is a doctrinaire liberal whose positions can be deduced simply by asking what the left thinks.

    Of course Obama is a progressive. From health care to assistance for low-income families to education to environmental protection, he emphasizes that Americans have duties to one another, and that government should be taking active steps to provide equal opportunity and to help those who need help. But, by nature, he is also an independent thinker, and he listens to all sides. One of his most distinctive features is that he is a minimalist, not in the sense that he always favors small steps (he doesn't), but because he prefers solutions that can be accepted by people with a wide variety of theoretical inclinations."

    The Empiricist Strikes Back
     
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    Obama is no centrist. Or at least he's certainly been pretending anything but. He's a Progressive. You can't be a Progressive and a centrist.

    :eusa_whistle:
     
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    I'm curious. Why do you believe that govt can provide happiness? I may be wrong but from your posts I have surmised as much. I've always wondered why people have trust in govt, the middle man, to distribute these monies in an effective manner. Wouldn't it seem more logical to cut out the middle man and contribute more on an individual basis? I'm not an anarchist, just much smaller govt. Who takes better care? Individual who purchase wares that are bought through hard work and personal responsibility OR individuals who take more handouts?
     
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    How did I just know when I saw the thread title YOU were the author?:lol:

    You are just so full of it ...
     
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    stivex puts the gu in guru

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    Obama is a liberal. Plain and simple. However, mccain is NOT a conservative. That makes him closer to the center than Obama. We conservatives want a conservative, but McCain is what we got. So, I am by no means trying to herald that fact. I am just setting the record straight.
     
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    McCain is quite the centrist... Obama, on the other hand, is about the most liberal far-left congressperson we have ever had...

    Obama is so far away from the center, light from the center would take over 3 billion years to reach his point on the left
     
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    Caligirl Oh yes it is too!

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    Is Bush a conservative? I don't know what a conservative is any more.

    Bush expanded government, started wiretapping people without warrants, and drove the economy into a ditch which we might get out of if we're lucky before our debt to China becomes completely unpayable. He thought the government should intervene in end of life decisions ala Terry Schiavo.

    On the plus side he appointed two socially conservative judges that support business and the market.

    What is a conservative? I am curious. I consider myself centrist and I don't think it is a bad thing. McCain would appoint conservative judges but the economy would tank even further.

    I am not a liberal in the "hollywood" style but I do think we have got to take better care of our economy and our environment.

    Obama meets more of my criteria for getting us out of the ditch we're in, but I like McCain.

    What is a conservative?
     
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    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

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    A conservative?

    Someone howling alone in the wilderness, same as thinking liberals.

    Someone with no political party to speak for them.

    Someone who is disappointed at how often the Grand Old Party hacks they thought they could count on, turned out to be just another big government, big spending group of crooks who would tell them sweet lies while picking the pockets.

    that who the conservtives are...they're indpendents and libertarians and desperately seeking a party they can understand.

    That's this liberal's opinion of those I know, at any rate.

    Sometimes I get drunk with them and we commiserate about what a bunch of snakes we think the younger generation political activists tend to be..

    We do that and lament the fact that manors and honor integrity are considered passe.

    Nice people those honest conservatives.

    A dying breed, I fear.
     
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    Caligirl Oh yes it is too!

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    Thanks - that makles sense.

    I started a thread on Bob Barr because your response reminded me that I wanted to check him out.
     
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