Obama has killed as many Americans as Isis

[LoneLaugher]

Fortunately, no American citizen ever gets all of his or her wishes when it comes to government policy. Nutters love to point at drone strikes as an example of liberal hypocrisy. This.....despite the fact that most liberals vehemently oppose them. The fact that this president authorizes them is enough to give nutters a huge hard on.

All this issue does is highlight the fact that President Obama is a centrist. He's way more hawkish than liberals would like.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I've yet to hear an apology for the murder of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki.

That's because he wasn't murdered.

Oh, right, because the party responsible for the murder doesn't call it murder. So it's not.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Obama truly has become the Assassin By Order President.

Every lib screaming that the GITMO dudes being held without due process meanwhile BAM BAMS kill them from above with drones without even a lick of evidence but an "Uncle Abdul's say so" takes out whole families on a day to day.

This is true. He's too scared to actually close Gitmo because of the political consequences, but can't alienate Democrats and liberals by imprisoning people in Gitmo, so he just assassinates them instead.

 

[whitehall]

Funny how Obama and the fat asses in the Pentagon are sensitive about collateral damage to civilians when the lives of American ground Troops are at stake but it don't matter when the Air Force is playing video games with drones.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Obama truly has become the Assassin By Order President.

Every lib screaming that the GITMO dudes being held without due process meanwhile BAM BAMS kill them from above with drones without even a lick of evidence but an "Uncle Abdul's say so" takes out whole families on a day to day.

This is true. He's too scared to actually close Gitmo because of the political consequences, but can't alienate Democrats and liberals by imprisoning people in Gitmo, so he just assassinates them instead.

The bad guys give up any hope for legal protection when they place themselves where LEO cannot get to them. The drone strikes are perfectly legal.

 

[ScienceRocks]

So should we stop bombing terrorist? The only way to be half way certain is to put special forces at risk.

You do understand that the Taliban will probably take back their country, isis will keep doing what they're doing and al quada will do the same. And they won't stop wishing to attack us. That boat has sailed along time ago!

 

[FA_Q2]

obamas little "apology" is really out of character for him because he normally doesn't say anything when something can be pinned to him and when it can be the man chuckles and says "not optimable". It is pretty obvious that he did something that can be pinned to him so he makes his apology tour to non-questioning reporters. It is a clever rouge designed to cover something up.

Looks like conjecture. Is that what you were hoping was the facts?
How would you know?

His drone project has killed thousands of innocents.

What is there to debate?

Manned airstrikes have killed many hundreds of times as many innocents as drone strikes have.

The average American is absolutely clueless as to the sheer amount of bombs that are dropped every fucking day. Thousands of pounds of bombs per day – thousands.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Obama truly has become the Assassin By Order President.

Every lib screaming that the GITMO dudes being held without due process meanwhile BAM BAMS kill them from above with drones without even a lick of evidence but an "Uncle Abdul's say so" takes out whole families on a day to day.

This is true. He's too scared to actually close Gitmo because of the political consequences, but can't alienate Democrats and liberals by imprisoning people in Gitmo, so he just assassinates them instead.

The bad guys give up any hope for legal protection when they place themselves where LEO cannot get to them. The drone strikes are perfectly legal.

Except we know he's not killing only so-called "bad guys."

 

[JakeStarkey]

Kevin, do you believe that only bad guys die in war?

 

[skye]

With Obama's policy of complete disengagement from the world and from using physical military power, what makes him happy is a simbolic gesture - that is - to send roborts to any real or imagined hot spots to do his dirty work.

In the meantime America's real power is crumbling, Islam is taking over the world and Hussein Obama's conscious is satisfied!

All going according to Hussein's plan,the most treacherous President ever.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Skye is now concerned with Obama's libertarian world disengagement policy, which is even worse than the reactionaries' earlier claim he was starting all those wars to take over the world.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Kevin, do you believe that only bad guys die in war?

No, which is exactly my complaint.

White House admits we didn t know who drone strike was aiming to kill World news The Guardian

Which means they don't care who they kill. That's the kind of lawless activity that we would all condemn if most other governments did it. Yet even when they admit they have no idea who they're targeting there are still plenty of people who will reflexively defend the U.S. government. People who kill innocent people should be held accountable for their actions.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

With Obama's policy of complete disengagement from the world and from using physical military power, what makes him happy is a simbolic gesture - that is - to send roborts to any real or imagined hot spots to do his dirty work.

In the meantime America's real power is crumbling, Islam is taking over the world and Hussein Obama's conscious is satisfied!

All going according to Hussein's plan,the most treacherous President ever.

Except for the fact that Obama's "disengagement" from using military power is only in the imagination of many Republicans. He is in fact just as happy to use military power as Bush was. Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iraq all remain perfect examples of this.

 

[Indofred]

Obama has no objections to killing Americans and is doing so as fast as he can. What's his count now? Four in Libya, One in Arizona, The one you post plus a whole host of others.

How many Americans died because Bush illegally invaded Iraq?
A lot more than 5, but I don't suppose you really like me mentioning that.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Kevin, uber libertarian isolationism is not a solution to our world problems.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Kevin, uber libertarian isolationism is not a solution to our world problems.

Bombing innocent people is the main cause of many of our world problems. Along with starving innocent people through sanctions and empowering brutal dictators who do terrible things to their people. If not doing those things is "uber libertarian isolationism" then it absolutely is the solution.

 

[JakeStarkey]

In a modern interconnected global economy, libertarianism as a model cannot work. The few times a pseudo-such-system was tried in our 19th century West, it rapidly failed.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

In a modern interconnected global economy, libertarianism as a model cannot work. The few times a pseudo-such-system was tried in our 19th century West, it rapidly failed.

Which is not a response to anything I said. Bombing people, starving people, and empowering brutal dictators is of no benefit to the interconnected global economy, and I am obviously not endorsing shutting ourselves off from trade with the rest of the world. I want to see more trade.

 

[NLT]

obamas little "apology" is really out of character for him because he normally doesn't say anything when something can be pinned to him and when it can be the man chuckles and says "not optimable". It is pretty obvious that he did something that can be pinned to him so he makes his apology tour to non-questioning reporters. It is a clever rouge designed to cover something up.

President Obama did not order that drone strike.

"Obama has killed as many Americans as Isis"

Proof?

If the drone strike kills a muslim terrorist duddy dumbass will say what a good job obama did by ordering that drone strike , when it kills a hostage, duddy dumbass will say its not obamas fault, because he does not control drone strikes

 

[FA_Q2]

In a modern interconnected global economy, libertarianism as a model cannot work. The few times a pseudo-such-system was tried in our 19th century West, it rapidly failed.

Which is not a response to anything I said. Bombing people, starving people, and empowering brutal dictators is of no benefit to the interconnected global economy, and I am obviously not endorsing shutting ourselves off from trade with the rest of the world. I want to see more trade.

Amazingly enough, the general population actually believes that we must by default be doing those things and those advocating against them are the nuts.
That is how backward some of our logic has become.