Obama Giving Oil-Rich Alaskan Islands to Russia

[freedombecki]

According to the US State Department, we've NEVER claimed those islands....

Then how can we give them to Russia?

It's a fake issue. Just like the Panama Canal.

Like my grandfather-in-law's case of malaria when he was down there digging the canal with other Americans?

Mr. Sallow, I don't think so.

Look. We have Russian weapons pointing at us from Venezuela now, and Putin is kissy-kissy with Chavez who blames America for his Cancer and with Ahmadinejad, who says he didn't say he was going to wipe Israel and the USA off the face of the map and that he didn't say it ten times in Arabic. But the Ayatollah of Iran was saying some pretty hateful things about America's existence just the other day, and it sounded worse than what Prez. Ahmadinejad said.

Obama has declared open warfare on American oil companies.

That's just not right.

 

[Jackson]

The question in play here is: Can Obama do something about giving these oil rich islands to Russia? And will he?

The Democrats here want to pin the treaty that was never signed by Russia on GHWB.

The treaty has to be signed by both parties to be valid.

The Aleutian Islands were sold to the United States in 1867, and Obama wants to give them back for free to continue his war on the Oil companies and his bitter enemies he hates some more, and his friends want to help him so he can wear the emperor's clothes.

The islands in question have never been considered part of the US.

They were not included in the purchase of Alaska.

You can continue to pretend that they were, but that won't make it true.

"Considered" and then why are we giving them back? Legally...If the treaty was never signed by both parties, it's not a valid treaty. The purchase took place in 1867.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The Democrats here want to pin the treaty that was never signed by Russia on GHWB.

The treaty has to be signed by both parties to be valid.

The Aleutian Islands were sold to the United States in 1867, and Obama wants to give them back for free to continue his war on the Oil companies and his bitter enemies he hates some more, and his friends want to help him so he can wear the emperor's clothes.

The islands in question have never been considered part of the US.

They were not included in the purchase of Alaska.

You can continue to pretend that they were, but that won't make it true.

"Considered" and then why are we giving them back? Legally...If the treaty was never signed by both parties, it's not a valid treaty.

We're NOT "giving them back".

We NEVER HAD THEM.

 

[Jackson]

The islands in question have never been considered part of the US.

They were not included in the purchase of Alaska.

You can continue to pretend that they were, but that won't make it true.

"Considered" and then why are we giving them back? Legally...If the treaty was never signed by both parties, it's not a valid treaty.

We're NOT "giving them back".

We NEVER HAD THEM.

What about the purchase in 1867?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Not to mention, most of the Islands in question aren't even part of the Aleutian chain.

De Long Islands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[theDoctorisIn]

"Considered" and then why are we giving them back? Legally...If the treaty was never signed by both parties, it's not a valid treaty.

We're NOT "giving them back".

We NEVER HAD THEM.

What about the purchase in 1867?

It didn't include the islands in question.

 

[Sallow]

Then how can we give them to Russia?

It's a fake issue. Just like the Panama Canal.

Like my grandfather-in-law's case of malaria when he was down there digging the canal with other Americans?

Mr. Sallow, I don't think so.

Look. We have Russian weapons pointing at us from Venezuela now, and Putin is kissy-kissy with Chavez who blames America for his Cancer and with Ahmadinejad, who says he didn't say he was going to wipe Israel and the USA off the face of the map and that he didn't say it ten times in Arabic. But the Ayatollah of Iran was saying some pretty hateful things about America's existence just the other day, and it sounded worse than what Prez. Ahmadinejad said.

Obama has declared open warfare on American oil companies.

That's just not right.

It's a fake issue..seriously. Obama isn't at war with oil companies..if he were they wouldn't be making record profits. And I have no idea what you are talking about in terms of Venezuela. If they started any crap with us..they'd be over in a New York minute. Same with the rest of the fools who think it's okay to constantly poke a sleeping giant.

This is much ado about nothing. Seriously.

 

[freedombecki]

The question in play here is: Can Obama do something about giving these oil rich islands to Russia? And will he?

The Democrats here want to pin the treaty that was never signed by Russia on GHWB.

The treaty has to be signed by both parties to be valid.

The Aleutian Islands were sold to the United States in 1867, and Obama wants to give them back for free to continue his war on the Oil companies and his bitter enemies he hates some more, and his friends want to help him so he can wear the emperor's clothes.

The islands in question have never been considered part of the US.

They were not included in the purchase of Alaska.

You can continue to pretend that they were, but that won't make it true.

The deal was for the Aleutian Islands before they knew what techtonic plates were. Give it up. The Russians just expropriated all the oil reserves in the Arctic Circle less than 4 years ago. You don't just up and give away something for nothing to be exploited for its oil. Obama sure as hell made sure we'd not be drilling in ANWR, now he's given the Gulf oil drilling over to Russia, taking away drilling privileges from Americans.

He's an anti-American manchurian candidate, and he should never have been inserted into the President's chair, where he has exceeded Peter's principle to a zenith never having been met before on this planet.

 

[freedombecki]

It's a fake issue. Just like the Panama Canal.

Like my grandfather-in-law's case of malaria when he was down there digging the canal with other Americans?

Mr. Sallow, I don't think so.

Look. We have Russian weapons pointing at us from Venezuela now, and Putin is kissy-kissy with Chavez who blames America for his Cancer and with Ahmadinejad, who says he didn't say he was going to wipe Israel and the USA off the face of the map and that he didn't say it ten times in Arabic. But the Ayatollah of Iran was saying some pretty hateful things about America's existence just the other day, and it sounded worse than what Prez. Ahmadinejad said.

Obama has declared open warfare on American oil companies.

That's just not right.

It's a fake issue..seriously. Obama isn't at war with oil companies..if he were they wouldn't be making record profits. And I have no idea what you are talking about in terms of Venezuela. If they started any crap with us..they'd be over in a New York minute. Same with the rest of the fools who think it's okay to constantly poke a sleeping giant.

This is much ado about nothing. Seriously.

No it isn't. He got rid of tens of thousands of high-paying jobs in the Gulf of Mexico by Presidential Edict of shutting down new AMERICAN drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Russia got wind of it and is out there helping Cuba get oil rigs we started. Just south of Miami beach, too.

It's no wonder the business community doesn't do more hiring. They're afraid he will beat them up too with his punish-the-successful and reward-the-unsuccessful Robin Hood braggadocio.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The Democrats here want to pin the treaty that was never signed by Russia on GHWB.

The treaty has to be signed by both parties to be valid.

The Aleutian Islands were sold to the United States in 1867, and Obama wants to give them back for free to continue his war on the Oil companies and his bitter enemies he hates some more, and his friends want to help him so he can wear the emperor's clothes.

The islands in question have never been considered part of the US.

They were not included in the purchase of Alaska.

You can continue to pretend that they were, but that won't make it true.

The deal was for the Aleutian Islands before they knew what techtonic plates were.

The De Long islands are NOT part of the Aleutian chain. They're Siberian islands.

Give it up.

Give what up?

The Russians just expropriated all the oil reserves in the Arctic Circle less than 4 years ago.

What are you talking about?

You don't just up and give away something for nothing to be exploited for its oil.

You can't "give away" something that we never had.

Obama sure as hell made sure we'd not be drilling in ANWR,

When did he do that?

now he's given the Gulf oil drilling over to Russia, taking away drilling privileges from Americans.

What "drilling privileges" has Obama "taken away" from Americans?

He's an anti-American manchurian candidate, and he should never have been inserted into the President's chair, where he has exceeded Peter's principle to a zenith never having been met before on this planet.

That doesn't mean anything.

 

[Peach]

I'll have you know America sent 34,000 troops to the Aleutian Islands to retake them from the Axis in 1943's WWII. It's only the second time in United States History a foreign enemy has taken our land away from us, the first being in the War of 1812.

The Obama BADministration is NOT WELCOME TO GIVE AWAY any part of the State of Alaska, we the people paid for it in our troops blood.

The Senate ratified the U.S.-U.S.S.R. Maritime Boundary Treaty in 1991, which was then signed by President George Bush. The Alaska House and Senate were never consulted during the treaty's negotiations, however, and recently have teamed up with the governor to send a strong message of protest to President Bill Clinton, without apparent effect, however.
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GHWB gave them away.

No he didn't. The Russians refused to sign the treaty.

In the June 1, 1990 Agreement, James Baker takes the “honor” to say that once the Agreement is in force, both governments will consider the boundary as in effect as of June 15, 1990. Russia did not sign. The Agreement has not taken effect.

Factions in Alaska wants the 1990 Agreement, that is a non-agreement, struck down or modified.

Monkey in the Middle: Alaskan Islands Belong to Russia?

You didn't mention that fact. The treaty didn't happen ever because it takes two to tango in international agreements.

So Obama negates Bush I's signature & insults a former President or he is GIVING some islands away the US has never controlled away? Stuck between a rock & a hard place. Note this from 2000, and the odious WND:

By David M. Bresnahan - ©© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

Alaskan legislators, trying to block the U.S. government's controversial treaty ceding to Russia eight islands belonging to Alaska, now have one more reason to fight -- in addition to sovereignty, state's rights and the fishing industry -- namely, oil.

"The issues involve not only state sovereignty over vital territories but also significant national defense concerns and substantial economic losses over fisheries and petroleum,"
said Alaska state Rep. John B. Coghill, R-Dist. 32.

"The U.S. State Department cannot continue to allow further encroachment of Alaska's states rights and valuable economic resources."
The Senate ratified the U.S.-U.S.S.R. Maritime Boundary Treaty in 1991, which was then signed by President George Bush. The Alaska House and Senate were never consulted during the treaty's negotiations, however, and recently have teamed up with the governor to send a strong message of protest to President Bill Clinton, without apparent effect, however.

Alaska is believed to have some of the largest oil fields in the world. Much of Alaska's oil cannot be pumped, however, because of wilderness designations placed on much of Alaskan land, said Coghill, who believes access to vast oil fields may now be lost to Russia if the transfer is not reversed.

Earlier this year, WorldNetDaily reported that, according to national security advisers on Capitol Hill, oil ministers from OPEC nations had quietly confided to them that oil production cutbacks -- and resulting price increases -- had been implemented at the request of the Clinton administration on behalf of Russia, Indonesia, Mexico and Iran.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Curses.

What's next. The Panama canal?

Oh wait..that was given away too..

Oh noesssss!

Yeah, by another one of your democrats, Swallow.

Of fuck off you fucking faggot. Gosh..why is it the little ugly girlie man constantly asking to gargle my jiz.

Man. Wasn't the dockworkers in China enough? And wipe those knees off and get the spunk out of your face for goodness sake.

Translation: I'm a dull fuck that has been had and so I'll attack you as cover fire.


True "progressive" shit right there.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The Aleutian Islands (English pronunciation: /əˈl(j)uːʃən/; possibly from Chukchi aliat, "island") are a chain of more than 300 small volcanic islands, forming part of the Aleutian Arc in the Northern Pacific Ocean, occupying an area of 6,821 sq mi (17,666 km²) and extending about 1,200 mi (1,900 km) westward from the Alaska Peninsula toward the Kamchatka Peninsula, thus marking a line between the Bering Sea and the Pacific Ocean. Crossing longitude 180°, they are the westernmost part of the United States (and by one definition the easternmost; see Extreme points of the United States).

Here's a map, maybe this will help you out.

The islands in question are all marked.

 

[freedombecki]

Not to mention, most of the Islands in question aren't even part of the Aleutian chain.

De Long Islands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They were in 1867.

 

[Sallow]

Like my grandfather-in-law's case of malaria when he was down there digging the canal with other Americans?

Mr. Sallow, I don't think so.

Look. We have Russian weapons pointing at us from Venezuela now, and Putin is kissy-kissy with Chavez who blames America for his Cancer and with Ahmadinejad, who says he didn't say he was going to wipe Israel and the USA off the face of the map and that he didn't say it ten times in Arabic. But the Ayatollah of Iran was saying some pretty hateful things about America's existence just the other day, and it sounded worse than what Prez. Ahmadinejad said.

Obama has declared open warfare on American oil companies.

That's just not right.

It's a fake issue..seriously. Obama isn't at war with oil companies..if he were they wouldn't be making record profits. And I have no idea what you are talking about in terms of Venezuela. If they started any crap with us..they'd be over in a New York minute. Same with the rest of the fools who think it's okay to constantly poke a sleeping giant.

This is much ado about nothing. Seriously.

No it isn't. He got rid of tens of thousands of high-paying jobs in the Gulf of Mexico by Presidential Edict of shutting down new AMERICAN drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Russia got wind of it and is out there helping Cuba get oil rigs we started. Just south of Miami beach, too.

It's no wonder the business community doesn't do more hiring. They're afraid he will beat them up too with his punish-the-successful and reward-the-unsuccessful Robin Hood braggadocio.

That's really just not true. America oil production is peak..higher then it was during the Bush administration. We are actually exporting oil.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Not to mention, most of the Islands in question aren't even part of the Aleutian chain.

De Long Islands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They were in 1867.

No, they weren't.

Take a look at the map I posted (from your link).

 

[Peach]

We're NOT "giving them back".

We NEVER HAD THEM.

What about the purchase in 1867?

It didn't include the islands in question.

Yes, note the word MAINLAND.
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While Alaska attracted little interest at the time, the population of nearby British Columbia started to increase rapidly a few years after hostilities ended, with a large gold rush there prompting the creation of a crown colony on the mainland. The Russians therefore started to believe that in any future conflict with Britain, their hard-to-defend region might become a prime target, and would be easily captured. Therefore the Tsar Alexander II decided to sell the territory. Perhaps in hopes of starting a bidding war, both the British and the Americans were approached, however the British expressed little interest in buying Alaska. The Russians in 1859 offered to sell the territory to the United States, hoping that its presence in the region would offset the plans of Russia’s greatest regional rival, Great Britain. However, no deal was brokered due to the American Civil War.[1]

 

[MeBelle]

According to the US State Department, we've NEVER claimed those islands....

Then how can we give them to Russia?

Perhaps because the OP-ED in the OP is making things up? Nothing is being "given" to Russia.

All of the islands in question have been always been controlled by Russia, and administered by Russia. The US has NEVER made an official claim to them.

"The 8 American Alaskan Islands

The eight American Alaskan islands include five in the Arctic Ocean and three in the Bering Sea.

Wrangell Island: At 3,000 square miles, it is by far the largest of the five (equal to Rhode Island and Delaware together). It has been in U.S. possession since 1881.

Bennett, Jeannette, and Henrietta Islands: Known together as the DeLong Islands, those who discovered them in 1881 received Congressional medals.

Herald Island: It was taken over by the U.S. in the late 1800s when the British abandoned it.

Copper Island, Sea Lion Rock, and Sea Otter Rock: These islands in the Bering Sea were acquired by treaty in 1867 from Russia"

 

[Peach]

Not to mention, most of the Islands in question aren't even part of the Aleutian chain.

De Long Islands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They were in 1867.

The Russians were interested selling in the mainland, the US in keeping the British from obtaining the mainland. There was no thought of oil in the 1880's.

 

[KissMy]

Oh! - No! - Tina Fey will see more of Russia from her house.