Obama does not state the 1967 border should be returned...

[iggy pop]

What a POMPOUS delusional hypocrite!!!!

I'm still waiting for you to back up what was promised to Israel in 2004!!!!

and I told you.

Liar!

It was in this very thread!!! Do you really think the readers of this thread are too stupid to remember you never said what was promised, but you told ME to google it instead?????

You really have one twisted little mind don't you?

 

[edthecynic]

Originally Posted by boedicca Obama just reference June 4, 1967 as the basis for discussion, which was the day before the start of the Six Days War.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to boedicca again.

I am watching too....heard same....my my.

Here is a perfect example of how CON$ are so completely filled with hate for Obama that they "hear" only what they want to hear and not what was actually said.
Thank you.

Obama again repeated that "the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states."

And just so worthless lying CON$ couldn't misrepresent what he said AGAIN, he went on to explain what “1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps” means.

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.

I hate anyone who shows they hate America.

Which might explain why CON$ hate themselves.

 

[iggy pop]

Originally Posted by boedicca Obama just reference June 4, 1967 as the basis for discussion, which was the day before the start of the Six Days War.

Here is a perfect example of how CON$ are so completely filled with hate for Obama that they "hear" only what they want to hear and not what was actually said.
Thank you.

Obama again repeated that "the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states."

And just so worthless lying CON$ couldn't misrepresent what he said AGAIN, he went on to explain what “1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps” means.

I hate anyone who shows they hate America.

Which might explain why CON$ hate themselves.

OK, that was totally lame.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Originally Posted by boedicca Obama just reference June 4, 1967 as the basis for discussion, which was the day before the start of the Six Days War.

I hate anyone who shows they hate America.

Which might explain why CON$ hate themselves.

OK, that was totally lame.

Yes, yes he is.

 

[Trajan]

Originally Posted by boedicca Obama just reference June 4, 1967 as the basis for discussion, which was the day before the start of the Six Days War.

Here is a perfect example of how CON$ are so completely filled with hate for Obama that they "hear" only what they want to hear and not what was actually said.
Thank you.

Obama again repeated that "the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states."

And just so worthless lying CON$ couldn't misrepresent what he said AGAIN, he went on to explain what “1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps” means.

I hate anyone who shows they hate America.

Which might explain why CON$ hate themselves.

Thats rich, coming from someone who lacks the character to simply admit they argued a point that was found wanting, even across an artificial, electrically enhanced anonymous construct.....

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Originally Posted by boedicca Obama just reference June 4, 1967 as the basis for discussion, which was the day before the start of the Six Days War.

Here is a perfect example of how CON$ are so completely filled with hate for Obama that they "hear" only what they want to hear and not what was actually said.
Thank you.

Obama again repeated that "the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states."

And just so worthless lying CON$ couldn't misrepresent what he said AGAIN, he went on to explain what “1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps” means.

I hate anyone who shows they hate America.

Which might explain why CON$ hate themselves.

Proof that you are a moron.^^^^^^^

 

[edthecynic]

exactly, see post 69, I knew I would get you here sooner or later.

Now, Ed, its time for you to either, say yea, I see, you're right or, he should have just played the down-low on any mention of 1967 borders most especially when he made it appear he was speaking of June 4th.....

or, backwater and obfuscate some more.

Idiots never admit when they are wrong.

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.

Originally Posted by boedicca Obama just reference June 4, 1967 as the basis for discussion, which was the day before the start of the Six Days War.

Originally Posted by Trajan
I am watching too....heard same....my my.

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.

I hate anyone who shows they hate America.

Which might explain why CON$ hate themselves.

Thats rich, coming from someone who lacks the character to simply admit they argued a point that was found wanting, even across an artificial, electrically enhanced anonymous construct.....

Thats rich, coming from someone who lacks the character to simply admit they argued a point that was found wanting, even across an artificial, electrically enhanced anonymous construct.....

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.

 

[GHook93]

Yea well he isn't immune to promising one thing to look good or to get votes.

During the Campaign trail
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed3e6t5uEo4]YouTube - ‪Obama Declares Jerusalem Will Remain Undivided‬‏[/ame]

exactly, see post 69, I knew I would get you here sooner or later.

Now, Ed, its time for you to either, say yea, I see, you're right or, he should have just played the down-low on any mention of 1967 borders most especially when he made it appear he was speaking of June 4th.....

or, backwater and obfuscate some more.

Idiots never admit when they are wrong.

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.
Which might explain why CON$ hate themselves.

Thats rich, coming from someone who lacks the character to simply admit they argued a point that was found wanting, even across an artificial, electrically enhanced anonymous construct.....

Thats rich, coming from someone who lacks the character to simply admit they argued a point that was found wanting, even across an artificial, electrically enhanced anonymous construct.....

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.

 

[Trajan]

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/3670377-post224.html


so after a day this is what you come up per our argument? denial?



its the internet 'Ed' not a locker room, grow a pair, what are you? 14 friggin years old?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Yea well he isn't immune to promising one thing to look good or to get votes.

During the Campaign trail
YouTube - ‪Obama Declares Jerusalem Will Remain Undivided‬‏

Idiots never admit when they are wrong.

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.

Thats rich, coming from someone who lacks the character to simply admit they argued a point that was found wanting, even across an artificial, electrically enhanced anonymous construct.....

Thats rich, coming from someone who lacks the character to simply admit they argued a point that was found wanting, even across an artificial, electrically enhanced anonymous construct.....

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.

Yea well he isn't immune to promising one thing to look good or to get votes.

Obamush said let me be clear in this video
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJg9SleJalk&NR=1]YouTube - ‪Obama:'I Was Wrong To Promise An Undivided Jerusalem'‬‏[/ame]

 

[Charles_Main]

"We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states," Obama continued.

Sounds to me like he wants the borders put back to where they were in 1967......

Who are the WE he's talking about? I know he's not speaking for the majority of America.

Well now he is claiming that Mutually Agreed upon swaps means they wont be the 67 Borders. The problem is everyone knows while the Israelis are willing to play ball. The Palestinians will never agree to any swaps they want the 67 Borders, and they want every Arab who had to leave and all their spawn since then to be able to return.

2 things that will never happen.

 

[Charles_Main]

Why are we involved? What, other than putting a target on our backs, is achieved by meddling in the matter?

Oh I don't know maybe making sure Israel and her Neighbors do not fight another way. Which if it went bad for Israel, could potentially go Nuclear?

Just a thought.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

"We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states," Obama continued.

Sounds to me like he wants the borders put back to where they were in 1967......

Who are the WE he's talking about? I know he's not speaking for the majority of America.

Well now he is claiming that Mutually Agreed upon swaps means they wont be the 67 Borders. The problem is everyone knows while the Israelis are willing to play ball. The Palestinians will never agree to any swaps they want the 67 Borders, and they want every Arab who had to leave and all their spawn since then to be able to return.

2 things that will never happen.

Another deal braker is the Palestinians want Jerusalem as their capital

 

[Zander]

 

[boedicca]

exactly, see post 69, I knew I would get you here sooner or later.

Now, Ed, its time for you to either, say yea, I see, you're right or, he should have just played the down-low on any mention of 1967 borders most especially when he made it appear he was speaking of June 4th.....

or, backwater and obfuscate some more.

Idiots never admit when they are wrong.

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.
Which might explain why CON$ hate themselves.

Thats rich, coming from someone who lacks the character to simply admit they argued a point that was found wanting, even across an artificial, electrically enhanced anonymous construct.....

Thats rich, coming from someone who lacks the character to simply admit they argued a point that was found wanting, even across an artificial, electrically enhanced anonymous construct.....

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.

Yes, different - but look at the rest of his comments. That is the starting point for territory SWAPS. In order to maintain the area around Jerusalem, Obama is suggesting that the Israelis give up territory from the Pre-War area.

Fortunately, Israel is led by sane, non-suicidal adults, and will not fall into his trap.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Idiots never admit when they are wrong.

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.

Thats rich, coming from someone who lacks the character to simply admit they argued a point that was found wanting, even across an artificial, electrically enhanced anonymous construct.....

Thats rich, coming from someone who lacks the character to simply admit they argued a point that was found wanting, even across an artificial, electrically enhanced anonymous construct.....

Transcript & Video: Obama AIPAC Speech May 22, 2011 at Ironic Surrealism

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.

Yes, different - but look at the rest of his comments. That is the starting point for territory SWAPS. In order to maintain the area around Jerusalem, Obama is suggesting that the Israelis give up territory from the Pre-War area.

Fortunately, Israel is led by sane, non-suicidal adults, and will not fall into his trap.

and let's not forget the Palestinians want Jerusalem as their capital

 

[Mr. Shaman]

"Yet what Hatch, Netanyahu, and their allies in the U.S. Congress are not saying is that most Israelis and Palestinians actually support a settlement based around 1967 borders with mutually agreed land swaps that result in a safe, secure, free, and prosperous independent Palestinian and Israeli states."

Republicans; Outta-Step With Reality.....As Usual​

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICMKKEhEpOo]YouTube - ‪interview with Israeli refusenik‬‏[/ame]​

 

[Gunny]

Obama does not state the 1967 border should be returned...

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He said the 1967 border should be used as a basis. Read this from CNN.


Quote:
"We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states," Obama continued.
The key it "mutually agreed swaps." The far right wants everyone to believe he is throwing his support to the Palestinians. That is totally untrue. He is actually stating something that every President in recnet history has believed. That is that the 1967 boundary should be the first consideration for negotiations.

But I am certain the far right will call this a huge concession, when it is not. He is just the first President to have the fortitude to say it.

Obama thinks there are 57 states. I have little faith in which borders he thinks should be reinstated nor do I care.

Last Icheck, you war-mongering leftist, Pali-fan freaks ... we are neither Israel nor any Goober Arab, Jew-hating nation.

Funny how just 3 years ago it was none of our business ......

 

[bigrebnc1775]

"Yet what Hatch, Netanyahu, and their allies in the U.S. Congress are not saying is that most Israelis and Palestinians actually support a settlement based around 1967 borders with mutually agreed land swaps that result in a safe, secure, free, and prosperous independent Palestinian and Israeli states."

Republicans; Outta-Step With Reality.....As Usual​

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICMKKEhEpOo]YouTube - ‪interview with Israeli refusenik‬‏[/ame]​

Think progress and media matters whats the difference?

 

[BlindBoo]

Obama does not state the 1967 border should be returned...

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He said the 1967 border should be used as a basis. Read this from CNN.


Quote:
"We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states," Obama continued.
The key it "mutually agreed swaps." The far right wants everyone to believe he is throwing his support to the Palestinians. That is totally untrue. He is actually stating something that every President in recnet history has believed. That is that the 1967 boundary should be the first consideration for negotiations.

But I am certain the far right will call this a huge concession, when it is not. He is just the first President to have the fortitude to say it.

Obama thinks there are 57 states. I have little faith in which borders he thinks should be reinstated nor do I care.

Last Icheck, you war-mongering leftist, Pali-fan freaks ... we are neither Israel nor any Goober Arab, Jew-hating nation.

Funny how just 3 years ago it was none of our business ......

Thinking the President believes there are 57 state is as stupid a position as stating McCain believes we should be in Iraq for a hundred years.....