Obama digs in against GOP

[Oldguy]

You're so full of shit......
Why wasn't he there NEGOTIATING with the GOP instead of playing golf? He has time for golf AFTER they take care of this. Just shows how much he doesn't care what happens....and you're going to blame the GOP for this?? God you people are stupid!

He offered his opening position and is now waiting for the GOP to offer theirs. That's how negotiating is done.

What do you think he ought to do? Just sit there at the table and wait for them? They've got his number when they're ready.

 

[rightwinger]

Obama is such a good negotiator, "sit down shut up and do what I say", then he goes out on the campaign trail besmirching everyone that was in the room

He is great orator, but one useless prick at the negotiating table.

I agree...Obama has sucked at the negotiating table

He gives up too much, negotiates against himself and lets the party that's not in power play brinksmanship and force him to give in

He caved on healthcare, caved on taxes, caved on gay rights

Time for Obama to let the Bush taxcuts expire unless Republicans make him an offer he can't refuse

 

[mudwhistle]

You're so full of shit......
Why wasn't he there NEGOTIATING with the GOP instead of playing golf? He has time for golf AFTER they take care of this. Just shows how much he doesn't care what happens....and you're going to blame the GOP for this?? God you people are stupid!

He offered his opening position and is now waiting for the GOP to offer theirs. That's how negotiating is done.

What do you think he ought to do? Just sit there at the table and wait for them? They've got his number when they're ready.

The GOP made their offers when they passed several budgets and they ether remain on Harry Reid's desk or were put in the trash can.

Oh, and Obama is too busy to meet with Congress right now.

 

[TNHarley]

Have you thought the stuff he is coming up with is shit? You remember the bill that got shot down 99-0? Exactly.. That bastard is not compromising. Never will. Its the commie way or the highway

 

[Stephanie]

You're so full of shit......
Why wasn't he there NEGOTIATING with the GOP instead of playing golf? He has time for golf AFTER they take care of this. Just shows how much he doesn't care what happens....and you're going to blame the GOP for this?? God you people are stupid!

He offered his opening position and is now waiting for the GOP to offer theirs. That's how negotiating is done.

What do you think he ought to do? Just sit there at the table and wait for them? They've got his number when they're ready.

he offered to give him unlimited power to raise the dept ceiling..and YOU call that A GENIUINE OFFER..

the people aren't the fools you and Obama think they are..

but thanks for posting that propaganda from the NYslimes...you serve Obama well

 

[TNHarley]

You're so full of shit......
Why wasn't he there NEGOTIATING with the GOP instead of playing golf? He has time for golf AFTER they take care of this. Just shows how much he doesn't care what happens....and you're going to blame the GOP for this?? God you people are stupid!

He offered his opening position and is now waiting for the GOP to offer theirs. That's how negotiating is done.

What do you think he ought to do? Just sit there at the table and wait for them? They've got his number when they're ready.

The GOP made their offers when they passed several budgets and they ether remain on Harry Reid's desk or were put in the trash can.

Do not ever mention Reid! That fool does not count!

 

[Article 15]

It's so much fun watching the nutters gnash 24/7

 

[Stephanie]

It's so much fun watching the nutters gnash 24/7

so nothing to offer again, eh

 

[TNHarley]

It's so much fun watching the nutters gnash 24/7

so nothing to offer again, eh

Are you surprised??

 

[Article 15]

It's so much fun watching the nutters gnash 24/7

so nothing to offer again, eh

Barack's got this, gnashing nutter.

I'm just here observing people like yourself's butthurt over it for my own amusement.

 

[Stephanie]

It's so much fun watching the nutters gnash 24/7

so nothing to offer again, eh

Barack's got this, gnashing nutter.

I'm just here observing people like yourself's butthurt over it for my own amusement.

well as long as you have your Obama knee pads on while you're doing it

 

[koshergrl]

"Force" to negotiate?

Isn't that just the same as "force"?

Tyranny. That's what progressives are about.

 

[007]

It's about time he stood up and forced the GOP to negotiate. During his first term, he offered them concession after concession, only to have it all thrown back in his face because their commitment was to defeating him in 2012, not doing what's best for the country.

The GOP lost in their bid to unseat him, so now they have to put up or shut up. If the country goes over the "fiscal cliff," it will be THEY who pushed us over and the American people know it.

Stand firm, Mr. President. Don't let them hold our nation hostage for partisan purposes again. You have all the cards and they're bluffing....if they have any sense at all....which sometimes seems doubtful.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/03/u...?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20121203&_r=0

Sheeeeeeezuz freakin A, and here at one time I thought you were a reasonable conservative. Now I see you'd rather suck on obama's cock and ride the obama phone gravy train drinking the libroid kook aide.

Idiot.

 

[TNHarley]

Its funny dems talk about anti obama peoples butthurt or whatever. We are all fucked guys. Not just the sane contributors to society

 

[Article 15]

so nothing to offer again, eh

Barack's got this, gnashing nutter.

I'm just here observing people like yourself's butthurt over it for my own amusement.

well as long as you have your Obama knee pads on while you're doing it

Knee pads, shoulder pads, chest protecter, helmet, and gloves.....you can't have enough protection on when wading into waters as polluted as usmb.

 

[ba1614]

"Force" to negotiate?

Isn't that just the same as "force"?

Tyranny. That's what progressives are about.

For our own good of course.

 

[zeke]

Barack's got this, gnashing nutter.

I'm just here observing people like yourself's butthurt over it for my own amusement.

well as long as you have your Obama knee pads on while you're doing it

Knee pads, shoulder pads, chest protecter, helmet, and gloves.....you can't have enough protection on when wading into waters as polluted as usmb.

That's how you do it eh? I just kill a chicken and read the entrails before I decide to log on or not.

But don't you wish there were a couple of smarter rethug posters on here? It is really tiring reading the same rethugs bull shit day after day after day. Why can't rethugs come up with an intelligent idea?

I better go kill a chicken to find out why.

 

[Oddball]

You're so full of shit......
Why wasn't he there NEGOTIATING with the GOP instead of playing golf? He has time for golf AFTER they take care of this. Just shows how much he doesn't care what happens....and you're going to blame the GOP for this?? God you people are stupid!

He offered his opening position and is now waiting for the GOP to offer theirs. That's how negotiating is done.

What do you think he ought to do? Just sit there at the table and wait for them? They've got his number when they're ready.

He offered a position -which includes a complete removal of any debt ceiling and refusal to address spending- that he knows that republicans will never accept.

He wants the sequester to kick in.

 

[Oldguy]

You're so full of shit......
Why wasn't he there NEGOTIATING with the GOP instead of playing golf? He has time for golf AFTER they take care of this. Just shows how much he doesn't care what happens....and you're going to blame the GOP for this?? God you people are stupid!

He offered his opening position and is now waiting for the GOP to offer theirs. That's how negotiating is done.

What do you think he ought to do? Just sit there at the table and wait for them? They've got his number when they're ready.

The GOP made their offers when they passed several budgets and they ether remain on Harry Reid's desk or were put in the trash can.

Oh, and Obama is too busy to meet with Congress right now.

Yes, they passed budget resolutions and spending bills which included draconian cuts to social programs and reduced taxes on corporations and the elites, knowing fully well that they'd never see the light of day in the Senate because they were too ideological. Then, they confidently sat back and waited for the Senate leadership to shove them down the rathole so they could then blame them for not passing them.

In the meantime, they were, and are, doing the exact same thing with bills sent over from the Senate.

It's how politics works and is nothing new.

What IS new is that the economic bills passed by the House are essentially the Ryan plan and now Obama is forcing them to swallow their own snake oil.

It's bitter goin' down, ain't it?

 

[Oldguy]

You're so full of shit......
Why wasn't he there NEGOTIATING with the GOP instead of playing golf? He has time for golf AFTER they take care of this. Just shows how much he doesn't care what happens....and you're going to blame the GOP for this?? God you people are stupid!

He offered his opening position and is now waiting for the GOP to offer theirs. That's how negotiating is done.

What do you think he ought to do? Just sit there at the table and wait for them? They've got his number when they're ready.

He offered a position -which includes a complete removal of any debt ceiling and refusal to address spending- that he knows that republicans will never accept.

He wants the sequester to kick in.

No, he doesn't. He wants to make a deal, but he's giving the GOP enough rope to hang themselves. Let's see if they're dumb enough to oblige.

And, by the way, you've incorrectly characterized the debt ceiling proposal. What it would do is let the President raise the debt ceiling and then let Congress agree to it or not. What that amounts to is a face-saving offer to the GOP. They can give him that, vote against it (knowing fully well it must be raised), then go back home and say they voted against raising the debt ceiling. As it stands right now, they CAN'T vote to raise it again because they've painted themselves into a corner on that too, but, on the other hand, they don't want to be blamed for shutting the government down again.

It's actually a pretty generous and ingenious suggestion. With that, the debt ceiling gets raised, preventing a shut down, and the GOP gets to hold to their public position for the benefit of their constituency.