Obama blames Founding Fathers’ ‘structural’ design of Congress for gridlock

[Theowl32]

Obama blames 'structural' design of Congress for gridlock - Washington Times

President Obama is taking a swipe at the Founding Fathers, blaming his inability to move his agenda on the “disadvantage” of having each state represented equally in the Senate.

At a Democratic fundraiser in Chicago Thursday night, Mr. Obama told a small group of wealthy supporters that there are several hurdles to keeping Democrats in control of the Senate and recapturing the House. One of those problems, he said, is the apportionment of two Senate seats to each state regardless of population.

“Obviously, the nature of the Senate means that California has the same number of Senate seats as Wyoming. That puts us at a disadvantage,” Mr. Obama said.


The Founding Fathers decided in the “Great Compromise” in 1787 to apportion House seats based on population and give each state two seats in the Senate regardless of population. The solution was a compromise between large states and small states in a dispute that nearly dissolved the Constitutional Convention.


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Let us watch the sheep on the left clap and say........................."Yeah, they were slave owners too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

This is the worst president ever, it is not close.

 

[eagle1462010]

It just shows his disdain for the Constitution. Nothing new, as he picks and chooses which laws to enforce and which ones NOT TO ENFORCE.

What he wants is a PURE DEMOCRACY............which many on this board from the left want for America. The Senate was DESIGNED to be the COOLER. To be slow and precise to ensure that Stupid Laws don't get passed in the heat of the moment.

They were designed to be the arm of the State Legislatures who would have a better knowledge of how these laws effect the State if passed. A higher knowledge of Complex laws than the average citizen.

When we passed the 17th, we hosed the Republic, and people like Obama have no respect for the Republic whatsoever.

 

[Theowl32]

It just shows his disdain for the Constitution. Nothing new, as he picks and chooses which laws to enforce and which ones NOT TO ENFORCE.

What he wants is a PURE DEMOCRACY............which many on this board from the left want for America. The Senate was DESIGNED to be the COOLER. To be slow and precise to ensure that Stupid Laws don't get passed in the heat of the moment.

They were designed to be the arm of the State Legislatures who would have a better knowledge of how these laws effect the State if passed. A higher knowledge of Complex laws than the average citizen.

When we passed the 17th, we hosed the Republic, and people like Obama have no respect for the Republic whatsoever.

They don't believe or understand what separation of powers means. They do not want a democracy. They want a strong federal government to feed them, take care of them, tell them where they can shit and what they can use to wipe their ass (literally, look up eco-toilet paper,) all from the cradle to the grave.

That is not democracy. That is a liberal utopia.

 

[Avatar4321]

It was supposed to create gridlock. That way politicians wouldn't have an easier time working together to oppress the people.

 

[eagle1462010]

It just shows his disdain for the Constitution. Nothing new, as he picks and chooses which laws to enforce and which ones NOT TO ENFORCE.

What he wants is a PURE DEMOCRACY............which many on this board from the left want for America. The Senate was DESIGNED to be the COOLER. To be slow and precise to ensure that Stupid Laws don't get passed in the heat of the moment.

They were designed to be the arm of the State Legislatures who would have a better knowledge of how these laws effect the State if passed. A higher knowledge of Complex laws than the average citizen.

When we passed the 17th, we hosed the Republic, and people like Obama have no respect for the Republic whatsoever.

They don't believe or understand what separation of powers means. They do not want a democracy. They want a strong federal government to feed them, take care of them, tell them where they can shit and what they can use to wipe their ass (literally, look up eco-toilet paper,) all from the cradle to the grave.

That is not democracy. That is a liberal utopia.

It borders on Feudalism........

 

[Zoom-boing]

Obama blames Founding Fathers’ ‘structural’ design of Congress for gridlock

Figures the "constitutional scholar" would.

What an asshat.

 

[occupied]

OMG impeach right now, he said something.

 

[deltex1]

Obama blames 'structural' design of Congress for gridlock - Washington Times

President Obama is taking a swipe at the Founding Fathers, blaming his inability to move his agenda on the “disadvantage” of having each state represented equally in the Senate.

At a Democratic fundraiser in Chicago Thursday night, Mr. Obama told a small group of wealthy supporters that there are several hurdles to keeping Democrats in control of the Senate and recapturing the House. One of those problems, he said, is the apportionment of two Senate seats to each state regardless of population.

“Obviously, the nature of the Senate means that California has the same number of Senate seats as Wyoming. That puts us at a disadvantage,” Mr. Obama said.


The Founding Fathers decided in the “Great Compromise” in 1787 to apportion House seats based on population and give each state two seats in the Senate regardless of population. The solution was a compromise between large states and small states in a dispute that nearly dissolved the Constitutional Convention.


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Let us watch the sheep on the left clap and say........................."Yeah, they were slave owners too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

This is the worst president ever, it is not close.

The FF knew how to keep an asshole at bay.

 

[Theowl32]

Obama blames 'structural' design of Congress for gridlock - Washington Times

President Obama is taking a swipe at the Founding Fathers, blaming his inability to move his agenda on the “disadvantage” of having each state represented equally in the Senate.

At a Democratic fundraiser in Chicago Thursday night, Mr. Obama told a small group of wealthy supporters that there are several hurdles to keeping Democrats in control of the Senate and recapturing the House. One of those problems, he said, is the apportionment of two Senate seats to each state regardless of population.

“Obviously, the nature of the Senate means that California has the same number of Senate seats as Wyoming. That puts us at a disadvantage,” Mr. Obama said.


The Founding Fathers decided in the “Great Compromise” in 1787 to apportion House seats based on population and give each state two seats in the Senate regardless of population. The solution was a compromise between large states and small states in a dispute that nearly dissolved the Constitutional Convention.


-------------------------------------------------------------

Let us watch the sheep on the left clap and say........................."Yeah, they were slave owners too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

This is the worst president ever, it is not close.

The FF knew how to keep an asshole at bay.

This guy really knows how to keep an asshole "at bay."

 

[occupied]

Obama blames 'structural' design of Congress for gridlock - Washington Times

President Obama is taking a swipe at the Founding Fathers, blaming his inability to move his agenda on the “disadvantage” of having each state represented equally in the Senate.

At a Democratic fundraiser in Chicago Thursday night, Mr. Obama told a small group of wealthy supporters that there are several hurdles to keeping Democrats in control of the Senate and recapturing the House. One of those problems, he said, is the apportionment of two Senate seats to each state regardless of population.

“Obviously, the nature of the Senate means that California has the same number of Senate seats as Wyoming. That puts us at a disadvantage,” Mr. Obama said.


The Founding Fathers decided in the “Great Compromise” in 1787 to apportion House seats based on population and give each state two seats in the Senate regardless of population. The solution was a compromise between large states and small states in a dispute that nearly dissolved the Constitutional Convention.


-------------------------------------------------------------

Let us watch the sheep on the left clap and say........................."Yeah, they were slave owners too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

This is the worst president ever, it is not close.

The FF knew how to keep an asshole at bay.

Yeah they were awesome, they knew what do do with uppity Negroes.

 

[Theowl32]

Obama blames 'structural' design of Congress for gridlock - Washington Times

President Obama is taking a swipe at the Founding Fathers, blaming his inability to move his agenda on the “disadvantage” of having each state represented equally in the Senate.

At a Democratic fundraiser in Chicago Thursday night, Mr. Obama told a small group of wealthy supporters that there are several hurdles to keeping Democrats in control of the Senate and recapturing the House. One of those problems, he said, is the apportionment of two Senate seats to each state regardless of population.

“Obviously, the nature of the Senate means that California has the same number of Senate seats as Wyoming. That puts us at a disadvantage,” Mr. Obama said.


The Founding Fathers decided in the “Great Compromise” in 1787 to apportion House seats based on population and give each state two seats in the Senate regardless of population. The solution was a compromise between large states and small states in a dispute that nearly dissolved the Constitutional Convention.


-------------------------------------------------------------

Let us watch the sheep on the left clap and say........................."Yeah, they were slave owners too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

This is the worst president ever, it is not close.

The FF knew how to keep an asshole at bay.

Yeah they were awesome, they knew what do do with uppity Negroes.

Annnnnd the first liberal makes the first claim......like I said in the original post....

"Yeah.....they were slave owners too!!!!!!!!!!!"

They are so predictable.

 

[Sallow]

Obama blames 'structural' design of Congress for gridlock - Washington Times

President Obama is taking a swipe at the Founding Fathers, blaming his inability to move his agenda on the “disadvantage” of having each state represented equally in the Senate.

At a Democratic fundraiser in Chicago Thursday night, Mr. Obama told a small group of wealthy supporters that there are several hurdles to keeping Democrats in control of the Senate and recapturing the House. One of those problems, he said, is the apportionment of two Senate seats to each state regardless of population.

“Obviously, the nature of the Senate means that California has the same number of Senate seats as Wyoming. That puts us at a disadvantage,” Mr. Obama said.


The Founding Fathers decided in the “Great Compromise” in 1787 to apportion House seats based on population and give each state two seats in the Senate regardless of population. The solution was a compromise between large states and small states in a dispute that nearly dissolved the Constitutional Convention.


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Let us watch the sheep on the left clap and say........................."Yeah, they were slave owners too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

This is the worst president ever, it is not close.

Yep.

That pretty much is screwed up.

No idea when anyone thinks states with a population of 600,000 should have the same weight as states with populations 20,000,000.

Same with the Electoral College.

2 very undemocratic processes in the Constitution.

 

[Sallow]

Bush had another take on it..



Seems like most conservatives, it was the Democracy thing he hated.

 

[Darkwind]

Obama blames 'structural' design of Congress for gridlock - Washington Times

President Obama is taking a swipe at the Founding Fathers, blaming his inability to move his agenda on the “disadvantage” of having each state represented equally in the Senate.

At a Democratic fundraiser in Chicago Thursday night, Mr. Obama told a small group of wealthy supporters that there are several hurdles to keeping Democrats in control of the Senate and recapturing the House. One of those problems, he said, is the apportionment of two Senate seats to each state regardless of population.

“Obviously, the nature of the Senate means that California has the same number of Senate seats as Wyoming. That puts us at a disadvantage,” Mr. Obama said.


The Founding Fathers decided in the “Great Compromise” in 1787 to apportion House seats based on population and give each state two seats in the Senate regardless of population. The solution was a compromise between large states and small states in a dispute that nearly dissolved the Constitutional Convention.


-------------------------------------------------------------

Let us watch the sheep on the left clap and say........................."Yeah, they were slave owners too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

This is the worst president ever, it is not close.

Yep.

That pretty much is screwed up.

No idea when anyone thinks states with a population of 600,000 should have the same weight as states with populations 20,000,000.

Same with the Electoral College.

2 very undemocratic processes in the Constitution.

Because the Senate is not a body of government that is supposed to represent the people. Duh....


Each state is equal and as such, has equal representation in the Senate, which is supposed to represent the States interests, not the peoples.

 

[occupied]

The FF knew how to keep an asshole at bay.

Yeah they were awesome, they knew what do do with uppity Negroes.

Annnnnd the first liberal makes the first claim......like I said in the original post....

"Yeah.....they were slave owners too!!!!!!!!!!!"

They are so predictable.

Yeah they were MEN not Gods, quit turning them into examples of governmental perfection. They knew their republic was not yet perfected, why would you think it was?

 

[FJO]

In the name of equality and to correct the horrible wrong done by the Founding Fathers, Obama should dissolve the present states, create new ones, with equal population, even it would mean to transplant thousands of people to Wyoming, Alaska and some lucky ones, to Hawaii. And, of course, be mindful of racial mix, as well.

What a pathetic loser!

 

[Theowl32]

Yeah they were awesome, they knew what do do with uppity Negroes.

Annnnnd the first liberal makes the first claim......like I said in the original post....

"Yeah.....they were slave owners too!!!!!!!!!!!"

They are so predictable.

Yeah they were MEN not Gods, quit turning them into examples of governmental perfection. They knew their republic was not yet perfected, why would you think it was?

Aaaaand the hypocrite still carries on about turning men into gods.

So says an asshole who probably has a Che T shirt.


Hey everyone, you think this person knows or cares about how the transatlantic slave trade started? You think he knows or cares that the first slave owner in this country was black (ooops African American.).

Hey everyone, you think this asshole knows or cares that slavery exists today in the form of horrific working conditions in Vietnam or China etc etc?

He does? Well, I wonder if those black athletes that receive millions in endorsements from companies like Nike who manufactures their products in those places will give back their millions in order to stand up against "slavery." Yeah, pretty different when the shoe is on the other foot, isn't it?

We all know from his name "occupy" that he does not pay his own bills, lives in his parents house, is some kind of trust fund baby, and his absolutely clueless about REAL LIFE.

But let us watch him continue on with the hypocritical blather of lefty righteousness. Which, shifts like the sands of Egypt in order to fit what ever argument they are making at the time.

 

[eagle1462010]

Obama blames 'structural' design of Congress for gridlock - Washington Times

President Obama is taking a swipe at the Founding Fathers, blaming his inability to move his agenda on the “disadvantage” of having each state represented equally in the Senate.

At a Democratic fundraiser in Chicago Thursday night, Mr. Obama told a small group of wealthy supporters that there are several hurdles to keeping Democrats in control of the Senate and recapturing the House. One of those problems, he said, is the apportionment of two Senate seats to each state regardless of population.

“Obviously, the nature of the Senate means that California has the same number of Senate seats as Wyoming. That puts us at a disadvantage,” Mr. Obama said.


The Founding Fathers decided in the “Great Compromise” in 1787 to apportion House seats based on population and give each state two seats in the Senate regardless of population. The solution was a compromise between large states and small states in a dispute that nearly dissolved the Constitutional Convention.


-------------------------------------------------------------

Let us watch the sheep on the left clap and say........................."Yeah, they were slave owners too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

This is the worst president ever, it is not close.

Yep.

That pretty much is screwed up.

No idea when anyone thinks states with a population of 600,000 should have the same weight as states with populations 20,000,000.

Same with the Electoral College.

2 very undemocratic processes in the Constitution.

aka In your world those states should STFU and do as you say...................

Those populations are primarily URBAN and not Rural. And quite Frankly a dang City Boy doesn't know squat about Rural Problems as he writes the laws that are centered on himself.

Which is EXACTLY WHY THE FF'S CREATED THE SENATE........To ensure we don't meet the same fate as PURE DEMOCRACIES in the past have met over time.

Pure Democracy is FEUDAL in Nature................Those in smaller areas or states wouldn't have a SAY AT ALL under this guise.

You would be a DICTATOR LIB NUT.

 

[Crick]

The president's comments show no "disdain" for the Constitution. Rather, his comments were intended to explain the difficulty in obtaining a fair representation in the Senate of an electoral group that tends to concentrate in high-density urban environs. It is a basic observation and Obama is certainly not the first person to make it.

Obama has never, to my knowledge, expressed any desire for a pure democracy or criticized the design of our Republic. Additionally, the 17th Amendment made no change to the manner or the accuracy with which the Senate represented high density urban groups.

The Senate's status as a more seasoned, mature and deliberative body rests on it's longer terms, it's lower numbers and that each of its members represents the electorate of an entire state. This latter point, hopefully, tends to make the Senate's members better aligned with the needs and wants of the states they represent. But there is nothing in the Constitution's defining structure of the Senate which ensures Senators have any "better knowledge" of how laws affect states; either before or after the 17th was put into effect.

 

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Annnnnd the first liberal makes the first claim......like I said in the original post....

"Yeah.....they were slave owners too!!!!!!!!!!!"

They are so predictable.

Yeah they were MEN not Gods, quit turning them into examples of governmental perfection. They knew their republic was not yet perfected, why would you think it was?

Aaaaand the hypocrite still carries on about turning men into gods.

So says an asshole who probably has a Che T shirt.


Hey everyone, you think this person knows or cares about how the transatlantic slave trade started? You think he knows or cares that the first slave owner in this country was black (ooops African American.).

Hey everyone, you think this asshole knows or cares that slavery exists today in the form of horrific working conditions in Vietnam or China etc etc?

He does? Well, I wonder if those black athletes that receive millions in endorsements from companies like Nike who manufactures their products in those places will give back their millions in order to stand up against "slavery." Yeah, pretty different when the shoe is on the other foot, isn't it?

We all know from his name "occupy" that he does not pay his own bills, lives in his parents house, is some kind of trust fund baby, and his absolutely clueless about REAL LIFE.

But let us watch him continue on with the hypocritical blather of lefty righteousness. Which, shifts like the sands of Egypt in order to fit what ever argument they are making at the time.

That's some awesome hyperbole there but ALL your guesses about me in your shitty personal attack are dead wrong, try again or better yet, quit acting like a true believer who just encountered a shameless heretic.