An immodest proposal for general elections of U.S. Member of Congress and our presidents.

Supposn

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An immodest proposal for general elections of U.S. Member of Congress and our presidents.

Votes for other than the Democratic House of Representative candidates within predominantly Democratic congressional districts, are futile votes. Votes for Democrat house candidates to represent predominantly Republican congressional district are also ineffective; they're essentially futile votes. Wouldn't it be preferable if everyone's votes for U.S. Congressional House representatives and U.S. senators actually affected our nation's future policies? (I digress to discuss the U.S. Constitution which is germane to this question).
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There were many compromises among the delegates to what then evolved to be the United States first constitutional convention. I do not regret most of the compromises among the delegates from the then greater or lesser populous states. Delegates from lesser populated states required some assurances that their states' priorities would not be passed over because the more populous states had the majority of votes in our federal legislatures, and among the voters who would determine those who would direct what became the executive branch of our federal government. Over the centuries, the size and proportional distribution of our nation's population have changed, but our now lesser populated states continue to be concerned for their interests; they do not want to be disfavored for the sake of our more populous states.


Each state's numbers of members to the to the U.S. House of Representatives are primarily determined by their state's population. Regardless of their populations, each state is represented by exactly two members of the U.S. Senate. Both the factors of each state's numbers of U.S House representatives and their state's numbers of U.S. senators are indirectly reflected by their state's numbers of electors within the U.S. Electoral college to elect our president, are indirectly based upon those state's numbers of members to each Congressional chamber and to the electoral College which are also due to those first U.S. constitutional convention compromises.
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I perceive no good reason to change any of these concepts in our constitution. But there remains the questions: Wouldn't be preferable for ALL votes cast for other than the then elected members of the U.S. Congress, (rather than only votes cast for those actually elected), to effectively affect our nation's future policies? Must all votes for other than the winners be ineffective futile votes?

I advocate candidates for the House Representatives receiving 1% or more of their district's votes, should be considered as been viable candidates. All candidates, including the elected candidates should be awarded the power of weighed members' votes in all proceedings of the U.S. House of Representatives. The weight of those votes being the percentages of votes the candidates received in their district's previous general election. Those recognized as credible candidates may not directly participate in the House's affairs, but they may temporarily assign their votes, and they may later revoke and reassign their votes to any currently elected or appointed member of the U.S. House.

This same concept could be applied to elections and procedures of the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Electoral College. Within this concept, every general election vote would affect our nation's future policies. Respectfully, Supposn
 
Over the centuries, the size and proportional distribution of our nation's population have changed, but our now lesser populated states continue to be concerned for their interests; they do not want to be disfavored for the sake of our more populous states.
This is far and away the biggest risk to the future, at least in terms of the Presidential election. If Texas flips blue then we will have Democrat One Party Rule in perpetuity.
 
This is far and away the biggest risk to the future, at least in terms of the Presidential election. If Texas flips blue then we will have Democrat One Party Rule in perpetuity.
MarathonMike, and you contend your response relates to this proposal how?

As you seem aware if Texas flips, all of Texas Republican votes for Their U.S. senate and electoral college representation will, (just as it is in the state of NY), be futile votes having no effective influence upon our nation's future policies. Respectfully, Supposn
 
A vote for what you believe and the political agenda you advocate is futile? I'm sure the Founding Fathers would disagree.
 
An immodest proposal for general elections of U.S. Member of Congress and our presidents.

Votes for other than the Democratic House of Representative candidates within predominantly Democratic congressional districts, are futile votes. Votes for Democrat house candidates to represent predominantly Republican congressional district are also ineffective; they're essentially futile votes. Wouldn't it be preferable if everyone's votes for U.S. Congressional House representatives and U.S. senators actually affected our nation's future policies? (I digress to discuss the U.S. Constitution which is germane to this question).
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There were many compromises among the delegates to what then evolved to be the United States first constitutional convention. I do not regret most of the compromises among the delegates from the then greater or lesser populous states. Delegates from lesser populated states required some assurances that their states' priorities would not be passed over because the more populous states had the majority of votes in our federal legislatures, and among the voters who would determine those who would direct what became the executive branch of our federal government. Over the centuries, the size and proportional distribution of our nation's population have changed, but our now lesser populated states continue to be concerned for their interests; they do not want to be disfavored for the sake of our more populous states.


Each state's numbers of members to the to the U.S. House of Representatives are primarily determined by their state's population. Regardless of their populations, each state is represented by exactly two members of the U.S. Senate. Both the factors of each state's numbers of U.S House representatives and their state's numbers of U.S. senators are indirectly reflected by their state's numbers of electors within the U.S. Electoral college to elect our president, are indirectly based upon those state's numbers of members to each Congressional chamber and to the electoral College which are also due to those first U.S. constitutional convention compromises.
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I perceive no good reason to change any of these concepts in our constitution. But there remains the questions: Wouldn't be preferable for ALL votes cast for other than the then elected members of the U.S. Congress, (rather than only votes cast for those actually elected), to effectively affect our nation's future policies? Must all votes for other than the winners be ineffective futile votes?

I advocate candidates for the House Representatives receiving 1% or more of their district's votes, should be considered as been viable candidates. All candidates, including the elected candidates should be awarded the power of weighed members' votes in all proceedings of the U.S. House of Representatives. The weight of those votes being the percentages of votes the candidates received in their district's previous general election. Those recognized as credible candidates may not directly participate in the House's affairs, but they may temporarily assign their votes, and they may later revoke and reassign their votes to any currently elected or appointed member of the U.S. House.

This same concept could be applied to elections and procedures of the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Electoral College. Within this concept, every general election vote would affect our nation's future policies. Respectfully, Supposn
A truly shitty idea.
 
A vote for what you believe and the political agenda you advocate is futile? I'm sure the Founding Fathers would disagree.
Whitehall, because what? I suppose you're certain as to what would now be the opinions of those "founding fathers" you mentioned? Respectfully Supposn
 
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An immodest proposal for general elections of U.S. Member of Congress and our presidents.

Votes for other than the Democratic House of Representative candidates within predominantly Democratic congressional districts, are futile votes. Votes for Democrat house candidates to represent predominantly Republican congressional district are also ineffective; they're essentially futile votes. Wouldn't it be preferable if everyone's votes for U.S. Congressional House representatives and U.S. senators actually affected our nation's future policies? (I digress to discuss the U.S. Constitution which is germane to this question).
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There were many compromises among the delegates to what then evolved to be the United States first constitutional convention. I do not regret most of the compromises among the delegates from the then greater or lesser populous states. Delegates from lesser populated states required some assurances that their states' priorities would not be passed over because the more populous states had the majority of votes in our federal legislatures, and among the voters who would determine those who would direct what became the executive branch of our federal government. Over the centuries, the size and proportional distribution of our nation's population have changed, but our now lesser populated states continue to be concerned for their interests; they do not want to be disfavored for the sake of our more populous states.


Each state's numbers of members to the to the U.S. House of Representatives are primarily determined by their state's population. Regardless of their populations, each state is represented by exactly two members of the U.S. Senate. Both the factors of each state's numbers of U.S House representatives and their state's numbers of U.S. senators are indirectly reflected by their state's numbers of electors within the U.S. Electoral college to elect our president, are indirectly based upon those state's numbers of members to each Congressional chamber and to the electoral College which are also due to those first U.S. constitutional convention compromises.
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I perceive no good reason to change any of these concepts in our constitution. But there remains the questions: Wouldn't be preferable for ALL votes cast for other than the then elected members of the U.S. Congress, (rather than only votes cast for those actually elected), to effectively affect our nation's future policies? Must all votes for other than the winners be ineffective futile votes?

I advocate candidates for the House Representatives receiving 1% or more of their district's votes, should be considered as been viable candidates. All candidates, including the elected candidates should be awarded the power of weighed members' votes in all proceedings of the U.S. House of Representatives. The weight of those votes being the percentages of votes the candidates received in their district's previous general election. Those recognized as credible candidates may not directly participate in the House's affairs, but they may temporarily assign their votes, and they may later revoke and reassign their votes to any currently elected or appointed member of the U.S. House.

This same concept could be applied to elections and procedures of the U.S. Senate and the U.S. Electoral College. Within this concept, every general election vote would affect our nation's future policies. Respectfully, Supposn
A Republic Is a Foster Government


The right to elect takes away 100% of every citizen's democratic right to vote directly on the issues. Having candy-dates is a poor substitute for self-determination.
 
A Republic Is a Foster Government


The right to elect takes away 100% of every citizen's democratic right to vote directly on the issues. Having candy-dates is a poor substitute for self-determination.

Sage of Main Street, you're implying or suggesting we practice direct democracy? While congress is in session all registered voters should stay on their computers or stand by their phones. No one goes to work, or school. No shopping or conducting business?

We' a nation of people that generally try keeping up with celebrity gossip or sports statistics, but our governments are apparently too complex and too much trouble for us to bother with. I perceive direct democracy would not remedy, but rather may exacerbate USA's political, social, and economic conditions.

When Americans are as much aware of their government's policies as we are of professional and college sport statistics, when our teachers earn as much as journeymen plumbers, and our universities pay academic departments' chairpersons as well as they pay their football and basketball coaches, the quality of our governments will be greatly improved. Respectfully, Supposn
 

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