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Pefect example of the Atlas Shrugged World
Pefect example of the Atlas Shrugged World
If you believe that, I'm not sure you really understand the book at all.
Why would you think it inappropriate to delay a tax on something for which workers traded salary increases and other things?
And what does it take away from the people who "produce"?
Pefect example of the Atlas Shrugged World
If you believe that, I'm not sure you really understand the book at all.
Why would you think it inappropriate to delay a tax on something for which workers traded salary increases and other things?
And what does it take away from the people who "produce"?
What about workers that are not in unions and don't have the "pull" these people do?
If you believe that, I'm not sure you really understand the book at all.
Why would you think it inappropriate to delay a tax on something for which workers traded salary increases and other things?
And what does it take away from the people who "produce"?
What about workers that are not in unions and don't have the "pull" these people do?
I'm pretty sure it applies to all collectively bargained for health benefits and doesn't discriminate among union groups. If you have some other indication, let me know.
And you didn't answer my question.
Well, personal taste is personal taste. I had a hard time getting through Atlas Shrugged - She uses too many words to say too little. I had a better time getting through Anthem. In terms of her politics - she admitted that her politics were entirely utopian ideals, with no basis to exist in our society - and, like you said, I have no desire to live in a Randian nightmare world either.
Interestingly, I had never read it. And then I went to my high school reunion and one of my old friends asked what my favorite book was. He told me his was Atlas Shrugged, so I finally got around to it.
I think Ayn Rand's philosophy is incredibly self-indulgent and self-pitying.
Another example, is when Obama was ruling GM.
The dealerships that had democrat ties, stayed open, many of the ones that didn't have this "pull" no matter their profitability were closed by Obama.
The achievers were closed down, because they didn't have the corrupt "pull," just like in Atlas Shrugged.
Another example, is when Obama was ruling GM.
The dealerships that had democrat ties, stayed open, many of the ones that didn't have this "pull" no matter their profitability were closed by Obama.
The achievers were closed down, because they didn't have the corrupt "pull," just like in Atlas Shrugged.
Nate Silver over at FiveThirtyEight.com points out, “There is just one problem with this theory. Nobody has bothered to look up data for the control group: the list of dealerships which aren't being closed. It turns out that all car dealers are, in fact, overwhelmingly more likely to donate to Republicans than to Democrats -- not just those who are having their doors closed.”
Silver crunched the numbers, and found that 88% of auto dealers identified themselves as Republicans. Doug Ross came up with 92% as the number of car dealers who donated to Republicans. Could it be that more Republican dealerships are being closed because dealers are much more likely to be Republicans?
Obviously, this couldn’t be the answer because it is logical and makes sense. Instead the right wing media would prefer to believe a conspiracy theory that has no evidence supporting it. This bit of right wing paranoia has been debunked.
Another example, is when Obama was ruling GM.
The dealerships that had democrat ties, stayed open, many of the ones that didn't have this "pull" no matter their profitability were closed by Obama.
The achievers were closed down, because they didn't have the corrupt "pull," just like in Atlas Shrugged.
did you even read the book? seriously, because "corrupt pull" had nothing to do with it. and the majority of dealerships had republican ties.
But here, let me help you:
Nate Silver over at FiveThirtyEight.com points out, There is just one problem with this theory. Nobody has bothered to look up data for the control group: the list of dealerships which aren't being closed. It turns out that all car dealers are, in fact, overwhelmingly more likely to donate to Republicans than to Democrats -- not just those who are having their doors closed.
Silver crunched the numbers, and found that 88% of auto dealers identified themselves as Republicans. Doug Ross came up with 92% as the number of car dealers who donated to Republicans. Could it be that more Republican dealerships are being closed because dealers are much more likely to be Republicans?
Obviously, this couldnt be the answer because it is logical and makes sense. Instead the right wing media would prefer to believe a conspiracy theory that has no evidence supporting it. This bit of right wing paranoia has been debunked.
Debunking the Obama is Closing GOP Car Dealerships Conspiracy Theory | Politicususa.com
read my link. it specifically talks about the examiner article.
and nate silver pointed out that YES the ones that were closed were more repub than dem...
BUT SO WERE THE ONES THAT WERE LEFT OPEN.
But the Examiner was too stupid to examine that variable.
You need to go back and read.
In 1950, after having become a fan of Ayn Rand's novels and exchanging letters and phone calls with her, the 19-year-old Branden met Rand. The pair went on to develop an eighteen-year personal and professional relationship. Eventually, Rand and the much younger Branden had a romantic affair. While both were married to other people at the time, both of their respective spouses consented to the affair before it started. According to Barbara Branden, however, "the affair was agonizingly painful," both to her and Rand's husband.[8]
For many years Branden was considered to be a leading figure in the Objectivist movement; indeed, many perceived him as being second only to Rand herself. He was the leader of a group of Rand's closest associates known as The Collective, which also included his wife Barbara Branden, Leonard Peikoff and Alan Greenspan. At the time, Rand considered him to be a soul mate of hers and designated him her "intellectual heir
Branden recalled: "There were implicit premises in our world to which everyone in our circle subscribed, and which we transmitted to our students at NBI." Incredibly, and here is where the philosophical movement became a cult, they came to believe that (pp. 255-256):
Ayn Rand is the greatest human being who has ever lived.
Atlas Shrugged is the greatest human achievement in the history of the world.
Ayn Rand, by virtue of her philosophical genius, is the supreme arbiter in any issue pertaining to what is rational, moral, or appropriate to man's life on earth.
Once one is acquainted with Ayn Rand and/or her work, the measure of one's virtue is intrinsically tied to the position one takes regarding her and/or it.
No one can be a good Objectivist who does not admire what Ayn Rand admires and condemn what Ayn Rand condemns.
No one can be a fully consistent individualist who disagrees with Ayn Rand on any fundamental issue.
Since Ayn Rand has designated Nathaniel Branden as her "intellectual heir," and has repeatedly proclaimed him to be an ideal exponent of her philosophy, he is to be accorded only marginally less reverence than Ayn Rand herself.
But it is best not to say most of these things explicitly (excepting, perhaps, the first two items). One must always maintain that one arrives at one's beliefs solely by reason.
The philosophical rationale for keeping Rand cultists in blissful ignorance was the Randian theory of "not giving your sanction to the Enemy." Reading the Enemy (which, with a few carefully selected exceptions, meant all non- or anti-Randians) meant "giving him your moral sanction," which was strictly forbidden as irrational. In a few selected cases, limited exceptions were made for leading cult members who could prove that they had to read certain Enemy works in order to refute them. This book-banning reached its apogee after the titanic Rand-Branden split in late 1968, a split which was the moral equivalent in miniature of, say, a split between Marx and Lenin, or between Jesus and St. Paul. In a development eerily reminiscent of the organized hatred directed against the arch-heretic Emanuel Goldstein in Orwells 1984, Rand cultists were required to sign a loyalty oath to Rand; essential to the loyalty oath was a declaration that the signer would henceforth never read any future works of the apostate and arch-heretic Branden. After the split, any Rand cultist seen carrying a book or writing by Branden was promptly excommunicated. Close relatives of Branden were expected to and did break with him completely.
In "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand, the government has decided to take from the achievers, the people who have and demonstrated the ability to achieve and make things happen.
They are being looted by those who don't have that the abiliy as these achievers.
The looters' (i.e. those that get the government influence) ability is to make laws to take from these people.
Society has changed from a society based on production and profit to a society based on pull and getting favors from people who are good at making profit. As a result of these various laws to benefit these select few, the economy goes into turmoil)
How much do you think Obama is changing America to become like this type of society in Atlas Shrugged?
I've got to get that book.
Read "Anthem" by her instead. It makes the same point, in about 900 less pages.
Atlas Shrugged is one of the most overrated books I've ever read - and not because of it's politics - I know where I stand with Ayn Rand. It's just a poorly written 1000 page monstrosity that's thesis can be summed up in one sentence.
Oh yeah also Hank Rearden is having an affair with Dagny.
And Hank's bitch wife Lillian revealed that information to Jim Taggert, who then told Wesley Mouch in exchange for higher train rates for Taggert.
That information was then used as blackmail against Hank Rearden to give over the patent to Rearden metal. Dr. Ferris promised to expose Dagny. Rearden agreed to protect her reputation.
However, anyone who builds a furnace used to make Rearden metal other than Rearden, gets his furnaces destroyed. Serves the looters right. Don't you agree?
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How much do you think Obama is changing America to become like this type of society in Atlas Shrugged?
Quite a bit. But to be fair, this has been going on for decades. Each year we lose a little bit more economic freedom. And the wealthy and corporations are already 'shrugging' by sending their operations and wealth off-shore.
